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		<title>By: kr8</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/10/01/gabe-newell-is-off-to-the-land-of-oz/#comment-315863</link>
		<dc:creator>kr8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m tempted to link to the wikipedia page on strawman argument. Especially 1) assuming people who had a problem with the l4d2 announcement hold valve by a higher standard than other developers and 2) assuming all those people are still angry.

I don&#039;t mind the editorialising, but most of the rest of this article is just name calling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tempted to link to the wikipedia page on strawman argument. Especially 1) assuming people who had a problem with the l4d2 announcement hold valve by a higher standard than other developers and 2) assuming all those people are still angry.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind the editorialising, but most of the rest of this article is just name calling.
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		<title>By: Rei Onryou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rei Onryou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 09:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this story. Regardless of the naysayers, this just goes to show that Valve are team players. Go team Valve!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this story. Regardless of the naysayers, this just goes to show that Valve are team players. Go team Valve!
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		<title>By: gobion</title>
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		<dc:creator>gobion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put Mr Walker - I have enjoyed this entire event and no amount of sourness from a minority will convince me otherwise. Making use of a fun situation for some good PR is not a crime. I hope the money does go to charity however :)

I hope they have a good trip :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put Mr Walker &#8211; I have enjoyed this entire event and no amount of sourness from a minority will convince me otherwise. Making use of a fun situation for some good PR is not a crime. I hope the money does go to charity however :)</p>
<p>I hope they have a good trip :)</p>
<p>Gobion
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		<title>By: basil</title>
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		<dc:creator>basil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no such think as &quot;lack of content&quot; in L4D. The game shipped as it was intended. Anybody who believes otherwise is hopelessly deluded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no such think as &#8220;lack of content&#8221; in L4D. The game shipped as it was intended. Anybody who believes otherwise is hopelessly deluded.
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		<title>By: cdm</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As several comments have pointed out, L4D2 was recently refused classification in Australia, a fact not mentioned in the article. I would of thought Gabe Newell visiting has alot more to do with highlighting this silly situation (as the first game passed the censors with no problem), than with appeasing some petty nerd rage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As several comments have pointed out, L4D2 was recently refused classification in Australia, a fact not mentioned in the article. I would of thought Gabe Newell visiting has alot more to do with highlighting this silly situation (as the first game passed the censors with no problem), than with appeasing some petty nerd rage.
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		<title>By: Vinraith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinraith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a sincere question, I&#039;m uncertain why it doesn&#039;t deserve a sincere answer. 

That&#039;s what this all comes down to after all, those of us that are upset with Valve feel they violated our trust. They made promises, they didn&#039;t keep them. In the future if they make promises again, we won&#039;t be able to believe them, and that&#039;s really kind of depressing for a game company that we were quite fond of. 

So, again, if Valve says they&#039;re going to support L4D2 &quot;like TF2&quot; with new campaigns, characters, weapons etc, will you believe them? If they announce Portal 2 and guarantee new levels post-release, will that affect your purchase decision? In short, didn&#039;t they violate your trust too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a sincere question, I&#8217;m uncertain why it doesn&#8217;t deserve a sincere answer. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what this all comes down to after all, those of us that are upset with Valve feel they violated our trust. They made promises, they didn&#8217;t keep them. In the future if they make promises again, we won&#8217;t be able to believe them, and that&#8217;s really kind of depressing for a game company that we were quite fond of. </p>
<p>So, again, if Valve says they&#8217;re going to support L4D2 &#8220;like TF2&#8243; with new campaigns, characters, weapons etc, will you believe them? If they announce Portal 2 and guarantee new levels post-release, will that affect your purchase decision? In short, didn&#8217;t they violate your trust too?
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		<title>By: Fumarole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fumarole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want news go to a news site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want news go to a news site.
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		<title>By: Fumarole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fumarole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to that.
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess it depends on the type of person Gabe Newell is.  Personally, the idea of being stuck in an airplane for 20 hours (or whatever it is) to meet some random guy and look at this mod and then turning around and flying another 20 hours back is a fucking nightmare, and I was thinking Gabe was really taking one for the team in a big way here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess it depends on the type of person Gabe Newell is.  Personally, the idea of being stuck in an airplane for 20 hours (or whatever it is) to meet some random guy and look at this mod and then turning around and flying another 20 hours back is a fucking nightmare, and I was thinking Gabe was really taking one for the team in a big way here.
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		<title>By: MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, plenty of abbreviations become words in their own right, and putting a dot at the end is unnecessarily awkward. This isn’t a prescriptivist quest arguing for absolute compliance with every grammatical ‘rule’ ever devised. It’s just that there’s no logical reason to capitalise ‘MOD’ , and it reads awkwardly while taking more, rather than less, effort to type. So people are making a specific effort to write the word in a way that makes absolutely no sense, and can ruin the flow of almost any sentence.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, plenty of abbreviations become words in their own right, and putting a dot at the end is unnecessarily awkward. This isn’t a prescriptivist quest arguing for absolute compliance with every grammatical ‘rule’ ever devised. It’s just that there’s no logical reason to capitalise ‘MOD’ , and it reads awkwardly while taking more, rather than less, effort to type. So people are making a specific effort to write the word in a way that makes absolutely no sense, and can ruin the flow of almost any sentence.
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		<title>By: Railick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Railick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;50 pounds for a new game that is more or less just a fancy expand alone is a bit of a crazy price point. . . and I&#039;m a Valve fan boi so that&#039;s saying a lot coming from me. I&#039;d never pay 80 bucks for a game unless it came with a vial of zombie juice so I could make my own live action zombie slaying action :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50 pounds for a new game that is more or less just a fancy expand alone is a bit of a crazy price point. . . and I&#39;m a Valve fan boi so that&#39;s saying a lot coming from me. I&#39;d never pay 80 bucks for a game unless it came with a vial of zombie juice so I could make my own live action zombie slaying action :)
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		<title>By: DarkNoghri</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkNoghri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, for anyone who wants to see the actual campaign, it should be here.

http://joesmoddingmenagerie.blogspot.com/

Photobucket screwiness notwithstanding, there used to be NSFW pics at the bottom, that may have moved to the second page. 

Map looks good though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, for anyone who wants to see the actual campaign, it should be here.</p>
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<p>Photobucket screwiness notwithstanding, there used to be NSFW pics at the bottom, that may have moved to the second page. </p>
<p>Map looks good though.
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