Gabe In Australia

By Jim Rossignol on October 7th, 2009 at 9:04 am.


Courtesy of Byteside, we have Gabe Newell’s speech to the gathered Australian gamers when he met modder Joe W-A yesterday posted below. Newell talks about the importance of the PC gaming community to the creativity of the industry. We also get to hear from the modder himself, the chap behind flying Gabe and Erik to Australia in the first place, who seems kind of dumbfounded by the entire thing. A Q&A and some interviews follow. Congratulations to everyone involved, it’s been very funny, and good for charity too.

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  1. nickski says:

    has gabe been on a diet? he’s looking fairly svelte right there

  2. Scythe says:

    Goddamnit. I live in Brisbane and I had no idea he was visiting this early. I’d've taken some time off work.

  3. Lobotomist says:

    Nice words Gabe.

    And seems good sales from L4D2.

    You really managed to spin the boycott in your own advantage.

    Now just hope there be L4D3 boycott , next April when you announce the brand new squeal – now with brand new weapons ! Hand grenades !

    • Gap Gen says:

      Yeah, way to flee the country to escape the furore over L4D2, Gabe.

    • Tei says:

      I am going to write a book titled “Do game developpers have dreams where zombies are replaced by zombies”, and become more rich than jesus.

    • Sparvy says:

      I thought jesus was very poor…

  4. Smurfy says:

    Lol, he has a Left 4 Dead 2 ad behind him.

    In Australia.

    Lol.

    • Mashakosha says:

      I noticed that. Thought it was a tad odd considering they’d banned it.

    • Jayt says:

      could be cause he knew this would be posted on a little thing called the internet

    • Pie21 says:

      Also because he’s going to single handedly eliminate the scourge that is Michael Atkinson with his burning GabeLaser™ eyes and bring salvation to the Australian public.

      In short, **** Michael Atkinson.

  5. Jon says:

    Anybody else pick up on his mention of DotA?
    “Team Fortress, Day of Defeat, Defense of the Ancients”
    He listed it along with two other Valve games – is DotA going to become a Valve game?

  6. Mashakosha says:

    That L4D2 poster seems out of place. Being in Australia and all, where they’ve banned it.

    • Matt says:

      haha, yeah i noticed that aswell, surprised that nobody asked a related question. I wonder if gabe specifically asked for no questions on that matter to be asked.

  7. Matt says:

    lol, joe seems pretty scared

  8. Ben says:

    L4D2 is being re-submitted in Australia.

    Cannily, they’re submitting the German version right now, which is bloodless, and will certainly pass. But that’s just the backup plan. The proper version is being re-submitted, but they (EA) don’t have a window for that with the Classification Board til late Oct.

    So. Worst case, Australians can buy the German version when it passes, and if/when the full version passes, they can get that. I was at the Gabe event, I asked Gabe if folks had to repurchase the proper version if they’d bought the German version. Answer=no. Free ‘upgrade’.

    But that’s for PC. They can’t easily control Xbox version upgrades like that.

    All the better to be a PC gamer.

  9. skrat says:

    Hehehehe.

    Im graduating from *that* RMIT course next year. (RMIT ftw)
    And a friend of mine is also friends with Joe.

    Small world.

  10. Lobotomist says:

    Australians dont worry if you dont get to play L4D2… L4D3 is around the corner anyway :)

    • Ian says:

      I’m totally boycoitting L4D3. They haven’t even released any DLC for L4D2 yet, the bastards!

    • PHeMoX says:

      I’ve said it before and will say it again. Valve should get on with it and make Half-life 3 now.

    • Clovis says:

      They should have released the DLC for L4D2 with the game! They left it out just so they could sell more DLC!!

    • Fumarole says:

      Bit of a one-trick pony are we?

    • invisiblejesus says:

      I’m boycotting ponies.

  11. MinisterofDOOM says:

    Excellent crack at Peter Molyneux by Joe, there.

  12. Psychopomp says:

    Joe wins at the internet

  13. Anthony says:

    Same here. I would definitely have gone to this given the opportunity.

  14. Dodo says:

    You obviously missed the news about valve hiring the latest dota developer.

  15. PHeMoX says:

    It has ‘publicity stunt’ written all over….. Valve just hit an all-time low for me.

    • Collic says:

      Given what has happened valve not publicising this would have been utter stupidity. They didn’t engineer the situation in the slightest. The reason we don’t see things like this often is not many companies value the opinons of their user base as highly, much less allowing random geeks on the internet to email the ceo, and get a reply.

      One of my friends has a nasty valve email addiction, and he always gets a reply. He’s got a pretty big contact list of valve employees now.

      They’re approachable, make themselves available to answer messages from their fans, and have never made any claims about their motives other than the fact it allows them to make better games. Why shouldn’t they take advantage of something like this?

      You might want to consider the fact this will likely benefit Joe W.A a lot more than it does valve.

    • Dominic White says:

      It has ‘publicity stunt’ written all over….. Joe W.A just hit an all-time low for me.

      I’m boycotting his campaign.

    • TotalBiscuit says:

      I am boycotting PheMox’s comment.

    • Wooly says:

      I’m boycotting PHeMoX, his comment has publicity stunt written all over it.

    • PHeMoX says:

      I was dead serious. Valve doesn’t care about their users… look at the huge amount of players who still boycott Left 4 Dead 2. Sure, a ‘couple’ of them might have been ‘convinced’ or brainwashed by Valve’s invitation, but really I am dead serious…. this sounds like a cheap publicity trick.

      I agree that it’s stupid for any company not to publicize these kinds of events, but really… don’t any of you think a few more steps into the future? It was freaking inevitable.

      In other news, the whole thing gave a neat spin to the negative publicity, which has been my point all along.

      If Valve would really care about it’s gamers, it would give Left 4 Dead 1 users a 50% discount on Left 4 Dead 2 and a public apology for milking their new franchise.

      Also, I am perfectly fine with being boycotted… not sure what it means as a person, but my comments are only meant to make people think a bit more, instead of run in the direction the masses go.

  16. Tei says:

    God has to HATE very much console players. Because Gabe will neer visit a console player, because consolers are BANNED from making mods on his machines. ( Can buy a PC and make mods for the PC, but will be again BANNED from use his mod with his game on his console ).

  17. dsmart says:

    …and this is what PC gaming is all about. Let me see someone try and pull that stunt one of those other stiff upper lip bastards at, say, EA or Activision.

    Anyway, anyone who actually thought that Gabe would have backed out is an idiot and has no clue.

    Well, at least the boycott is going just fine. Right to the tune of 300% increase in L4D2 pre-orders cuz everyone is boycotting the boycotters’ boycott. lmao!!

    • Lobotomist says:

      LMAO back to you

      L4D was sold trough very aggressive ad campaign.
      But now Valve invested 30 million $ in ad campaign for L4D2. I guess they figured the EA cue.
      Invest 90% resources in advertisement, and 10% in development. No wait! Slap some new textures on old engine, make 3 additional levels, rename some weapons and you are ready to go!

      3 hours gameplay for 50$ … You can sell everything with right advertisement. There will always be enough suckers.

      But…

      Word of mouth

      L4D – word of mouth: Great new idea. Lots of fun, and lot of free content promised in future.

      L4D2 – word of mouth: Its kind of same. Its more expansion than new game. L4D was repetitive without new content. Valve will not make any new content for free. In a year they will probably make next sequal and this game will be dead, just like first one.

      Let see what wins?

      Word of mouth from your friends, or superexpensive advertising campaign ?

    • Rinox says:

      @ Lobotomist

      3 hours of extra gameplay? Are you seriously suggesting anyone plays L4D(2) in singleplayer? That’s just silly.

      You might as well try the singleplayer campaigns of the Battlefield games!

    • Psychopomp says:

      I can’t believe there’s still people going LOL THEY JUST SLAPPED SOME TEXTURES ON THERE AND ADDED SOME WEAPONS CHARACTERS STORY LEVELS EXPANSION PACK GRRR ANGER, route.
      Why, I guess Ratchet and Clank:Going Commando was an expansion pack.

      The only ones with valid complaints, are the ones who feel lied to. The rest of you are silly, silly people.

    • Howl says:

      There needs to be a limit on how many times someone can post inane drivel in response to the same news article. We appreciate your issues Lobotomist but you don’t need to go repeating them in response to every poster.

    • drewski says:

      @ Rinox – I played BF1942 in singleplayer. I thought it was great.

    • Rinox says:

      My sincere apologies then Drewski. ;-) It’s not that I hated it myself, it’s just that it felt so pointless after a while. I mean, without the feeling that everyone around me was a living breathing human.

    • PHeMoX says:

      Quote:

      “Well, at least the boycott is going just fine. Right to the tune of 300% increase in L4D2 pre-orders cuz everyone is boycotting the boycotters’ boycott. lmao!!”

      ..and alas there is proof the publicity spin is working. I am not blaming new adopters for being interested in L4D2, but the L4D 1 crowd certainly should boycott that game.

  18. nickski says:

    i was considering boycotting geoffrey boycott, but the space time continum rammifications made my head hurt.

  19. pignoli says:

    Good show on Valve’s part. Interested to see what this guys campaign is like now…

  20. lumpi says:

    I am boycotting boycotter’s boycotting.

  21. lumpi says:

    Wait that apostrophe was wrong… I mean that I am bocotting the boycotting of boycotters…

    Man, can’t we just move on to Portal 2?

  22. frags says:

    Nooooooo…If he can go to Australia, why can’t he stop by SIngapore or Malaysia!!!!! BOYCOTT!!!! This is unfair…I demand Gabe to come here….

  23. bill says:

    next time someone interviews gabe can they PLEASE ask him about some of the stuff that’s up with Steam recently. I love valve’s games, and Steam used to be great.

    But recently I know three people who’ve suddenly had their accounts locked. Yet valve gives no useful information about WHY and takes forever to respond to emails. Plus the recent disasters of the Chaos Theory, Jedi Knight (not their fault i guess) and Risen (part of a general problem with their DRM policy) releases on steam.

    It’s not that steam is bad. It’s that recently the customer service and CARE seems to have totally gone to the dogs.

  24. bildo says:

    i’d buy it

  25. Hmm says:

    I’m boycotting all of you.
    Seriously though, the video was great and all, but please stop milking Half-life and the Source engine, Valve. Proper Half-life 3 on Source 2, please.

    • Jad says:

      Wouldn’t a Half-Life 3 be “milking Half-Life”?

      As much as I love the Half-Life series, I’d love it if Valve kept doing original things. More stuff like Portal, please. Which is to say, not Portal 2, but more out-of-left-field bits of innovative gaming brilliance.

    • qrter says:

      The Half-Life 2 Episodes are Half-Life 3. Valve has admitted quite a while back they shouldn’t have named them episodes.

  26. Duffin says:

    I already caved and pre-ordered L4D2. But in all fairness, it does look amazing.

  27. GuiSim says:

    I really think more game companies should look up to Valve and learn a few things on their relation with their community.

  28. int says:

    Well Gabe. Good on ya.

  29. Bret says:

    Simple to be richer than him then, innit?

  30. bobo says:

    the modder dude is kinna cute

  31. jsutcliffe says:

    Good news for Aussie gamers. Looks like Valve’s appeal to the classification board was successful: http://www.classification.gov.au/www/cob/find.nsf/5b6ebdff7f5b9a24ca2575ca00062226/981b9f23b74dbc0aca2576480057fedc!OpenDocument

    • jsutcliffe says:

      I guess that could just be the censored version though. Still, Australia will get L4D2.

    • luminosity says:

      Ah, this must be why they banned it — the censored version has ‘strong bloody violence’. Obviously the uncensored one would have been ‘fucking strong violence’ or the like, and the OFLC just wanted to censor their own potty mouths.

  32. Joseph says:

    @jsutcliffe:

    Yep, that’s the censored version. Appeal won’t be resolved until October.

    Source: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/10/valve-appealing-editing-left-4-dead-2-for-aussie-classification/

    *waits*

  33. Mal says:

    Hasn’t word-of-mouth been pretty good? Most of the negative word-of-mouth is from people reading features lists and what-have-you, not people who’ve played the actual game. I mean, the two boycotters Valve flew over did a 180 and really liked the game, and that has to mean something. I doubt they were under any obligation to say good tihngs about Valve.

    • invisiblejesus says:

      Well, the argument is that the two boycotters were influenced to say good things about the game because of the fact that Valve flew them in; it’s an argument people sometimes use with regards to professional reviewers, and in that context I think it’s pretty solid, but in the case of the two boycotters it’s bullshit. They would have nothing to lose by continuing to criticize L4D2, it’s not like they have any reason to expect this sort of treatment in the future even if they do say good things about it. If anything they’d gain credibility with the boycotters if they saw the game and then bashed it.

      Back on topic, the kid seems pretty terrified by the cameras but he seems to keep a good attitude about it, so good on him. I’m not really sure why even Valve’s critics would complain about them getting some publicity out of this; sure, it might help them a little bit, but I doubt anyone who wasn’t already going to buy L4D2 is going to change their mind because of this event. The big winners really are Joe, and maybe the Australian gaming public in general if this helps ease the government’s crap attitude towards video games. If Valve does benefit, great; maybe that would give other game developers an incentive to get more involved in their games’ communities. That’d be a good thing for everyone.

    • PHeMoX says:

      Quote: “Most of the negative word-of-mouth is from people reading features lists and what-have-you, not people who’ve played the actual game. I mean, the two boycotters Valve flew over did a 180 and really liked the game, and that has to mean something.”

      No, it sort of means nothing at all. Did those gamers play the original game at all? I assume they most likely did. Are there any huge difference in gameplay? Heck no… it’s the same old same old. Some might argue that’s a good thing, other will argue it’s not.

      Does such a trip influence their objectivity, well yes… obviously it does, regardless of whether L4D2 is any good.

      In fact, I would probably agree that it’s good (haven’t played it yet though), but the real question should be, is it BETTER than the Left 4 Dead 1 and offering more to us gamers than the original.

      From what has been made public so far, it only barely does.. which is obviously a shame.

      I probably should emphasize that I am not anti-Valve nor anti-Steam in general at all, but I definitely think Valve has been slacking lately. They are basically making money off projects that shouldn’t really be all that successful at all looking at the pure gameplay aspects. ;)

      ( I am not judging the fun factor here, as I will gladly admit L4D 1 is fun to play.. although very repetitive.)

  34. sinister agent says:

    He is refreshingly amateurish at public speaking. He speaks clearly and well, but plainly, like a real person, not some greasy PR rep who’ll say anything for a paycheque. I warm to him somewhat.

  35. Joe W-A says:

    Thanks for putting a positive spin on my horrific awkwardness there, Sinister Agent.

    • mcw says:

      I think he was talking about Gabe. You were doing fine by the way.

  36. oceanclub says:

    To celebrate Gabe’s arrival, Australia reformed the Jackson 5:

    http://gawker.com/5376363/in-australia-blackface-is-still-only-slightly-offensive

    P.

  37. Rei Onryou says:

    I wish this sort of thing could happen more often. Gratis to Joe and Gabe/Eric for being good sports and putting on a show.

  38. KP says:

    He’s the project lead on Shotgun Sunrise? hahah, that I didn’t know.

  39. matte_k says:

    Enough with the boycotts. Can we have some others, like mancotts, or womancotts/girlcotts? Equality, I say!!

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