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		<title>By: Concept</title>
		<link>http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/10/14/dawn-of-update-the-last-stand/#comment-324862</link>
		<dc:creator>Concept</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 03:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its really fun, but I just see so many lost oppurtunities.

Why only 3 players? Why not 1-4? Only 1 map? No item trading?

There&#039;s not enough items either, be cool to have an element of randomisation in each game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its really fun, but I just see so many lost oppurtunities.</p>
<p>Why only 3 players? Why not 1-4? Only 1 map? No item trading?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s not enough items either, be cool to have an element of randomisation in each game.
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		<title>By: Frans Coehoorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frans Coehoorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, and since people want to level, most players are willing to help anyway. Not unlike some dumbarses I met during my Ranked games....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, and since people want to level, most players are willing to help anyway. Not unlike some dumbarses I met during my Ranked games&#8230;.
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		<title>By: Azradesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azradesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can just invite one friend and let the match making full the other slot, it works pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can just invite one friend and let the match making full the other slot, it works pretty well.
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		<title>By: Evoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scout shotguns dont do aoe damage. They removed that and gave them higher singletarget damage last patch, remember?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scout shotguns dont do aoe damage. They removed that and gave them higher singletarget damage last patch, remember?
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		<title>By: Garg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They released a map editor for it a while back. Not really sure about other mods but the community website for it is http://community.dawnofwar2.com/forums/world-builder-and-modding/mod-discussions if you want to have a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They released a map editor for it a while back. Not really sure about other mods but the community website for it is <a href="http://community.dawnofwar2.com/forums/world-builder-and-modding/mod-discussions" rel="nofollow">http://community.dawnofwar2.com/forums/world-builder-and-modding/mod-discussions</a> if you want to have a look.
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		<title>By: Vinraith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinraith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really disappointing, the moddability of Dawn of War 1 was one of its greatest strengths (and gave us the phenomenal Dawn of Skirmish mod). What is it with developers screwing over their mod making fan base of late?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really disappointing, the moddability of Dawn of War 1 was one of its greatest strengths (and gave us the phenomenal Dawn of Skirmish mod). What is it with developers screwing over their mod making fan base of late?
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		<title>By: Nerd Rage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nerd Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vinraith - Not in any way shape or form friendly, unless someone has produced some really good tools since I last tried to do anything with it.  (May/June?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vinraith &#8211; Not in any way shape or form friendly, unless someone has produced some really good tools since I last tried to do anything with it.  (May/June?)
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		<title>By: Nerd Rage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nerd Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but the video says there will be units from a whole new army in this mode, and it doesn&#039;t say they&#039;ll be playable (though it also doesn&#039;t say they won&#039;t be, I&#039;m assuming that&#039;s implied because...) what it does say is you&#039;ll have to fight them.  I also think an early intro to the chaos units is likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but the video says there will be units from a whole new army in this mode, and it doesn&#8217;t say they&#8217;ll be playable (though it also doesn&#8217;t say they won&#8217;t be, I&#8217;m assuming that&#8217;s implied because&#8230;) what it does say is you&#8217;ll have to fight them.  I also think an early intro to the chaos units is likely.
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		<title>By: subedii</title>
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		<dc:creator>subedii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or chain knockbacks with purification rites + ASM jumps. That&#039;s a long time stuck on the floor whilst the enemy takes pot-shots at you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or chain knockbacks with purification rites + ASM jumps. That&#8217;s a long time stuck on the floor whilst the enemy takes pot-shots at you.
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		<title>By: subedii</title>
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		<dc:creator>subedii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disagree, the nerfs to plasma were necessary, and this is coming from a guy who primarily plays Space Marines. The problem with SM is the lack of melee counter, which I&#039;m &lt;i&gt;hoping&lt;/i&gt; the new suppression on scout kncockback will fix.

But getting back to plasma, it&#039;s extremely powerful. Once you&#039;ve manged to get to T2 and plasma, a critical mass of 3-4 squads will literally be wiping out entire melee squads in seconds, before they can even get in range.

As for heavy bolters, I&#039;d advise against using them against most enemies. They&#039;re usually sitting ducks, especially if you&#039;re facing an enemy with Warp Throw or similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagree, the nerfs to plasma were necessary, and this is coming from a guy who primarily plays Space Marines. The problem with SM is the lack of melee counter, which I&#8217;m <i>hoping</i> the new suppression on scout kncockback will fix.</p>
<p>But getting back to plasma, it&#8217;s extremely powerful. Once you&#8217;ve manged to get to T2 and plasma, a critical mass of 3-4 squads will literally be wiping out entire melee squads in seconds, before they can even get in range.</p>
<p>As for heavy bolters, I&#8217;d advise against using them against most enemies. They&#8217;re usually sitting ducks, especially if you&#8217;re facing an enemy with Warp Throw or similar.
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		<title>By: subedii</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always suggest finding someone to Co-op with through the campaign. As fun as the campaign is, the game really comes into its own in co-op.

Higher difficulties especially were really made for co-op, you each get control of two squads and it really helps to maximise the abilities of all involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always suggest finding someone to Co-op with through the campaign. As fun as the campaign is, the game really comes into its own in co-op.</p>
<p>Higher difficulties especially were really made for co-op, you each get control of two squads and it really helps to maximise the abilities of all involved.
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		<title>By: SwiftRanger</title>
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		<dc:creator>SwiftRanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s one of the best patches of the year, Last Stand is incredibly addictive. That expansion can&#039;t come soon enough since that&#039;ll be the time when Relic will add more to this game mode apparently.</description>
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