Comments on: Give Brain Pieces A Chance: Boycott Ends

By: ME!

ME! — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:59:51 +0000

oh man that worked for me too actually… if i played with friends, it would be easier.. but even some of them were reluctant. so what i would do is stay OUT of the closet alone so they’d be like “awww DAMNIT it’s worth taking damage rather than letting him die” hahahahaha…

and lo and behold, when ALL 4 of you stay outside in an area to defend, you can actually take almost NO damage!!! who woulda thought!?!?!

i still love taking credit for fighting with my team, backs to the elevator in NM4, side by side like a firing squad, stack-less baby. I was the first to do that with my guys, and they came to realize it worked well if everyone agreed to do it. even when they stacked, i’d still do it and just say “hey, 3 of you are facing me, so save me if i need it” haha

By: abhishek

abhishek — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:56:07 +0000

You actually got what you paid for. You want more.

By: ME!

ME! — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:51:17 +0000

I feel like what i wrote about deciding to buy the game was completely overlooked. I *was* boycotting L4D2, until MY requirements are met. Not everyone there was adhering to everything that was in the manifesto. if that were the case i’m sure it’d be a much smaller group. Everyone was there for their own reasons. my biggest concerns were the splitting of the community, price point, and valve’s ability to deliver DLC. let’s admit it, they were pretty high and dry on L4D1 DLC for months, with the exception of the SDK (which, in itself, was delayed repeatedly). Once i saw *some* DLC, and a lower price point with the 4-pack, i was able to overlook the splitting of the community because i’ve come to understand that the communities can’t be entirely connected since the games *will* be significantly different. this isn’t something i believed early on, but came to believe as time went on and more info on L4D2 was released.

I was REALLY critical early on because the early trailer released for L4D2 WAY BACK contained entirely recycled zombie sounds, animations, etc – I *always* notice crap like that, and it made it feel like it was gonna be an audiovisual experience identical to L4D1. That’s one of the biggest things for me in a new game. That it looks or sounds extremely different, so I don’t feel like i’m in the same game. i even made my own 28 weeks later soundtrack to spice up L4D1 and it’s totally epic, works perfectly! Anyway, it seemed like they’d made the trailer so early on that there wasn’t enough content to really promote the game properly, so it irked me and I came to think it’d be nothing but an expansion.

And, Yeah the group probably was bound to get full of trolls n stuff, but saying that it makes sense is crap. What, so people are whining about L4D2. Then people come in there to tell us to stop whining about L4D2 – which, in essence, means they’ve joined the boycott group *just* to whine about us whining. Talk about hypocrisy. I don’t consider what I did whining anyway, I was expressing an opinion. Admittedly, some people there did whine. A lot. But if we really want to go into whining, take a look at the bajillion anti-boycott or “boycott boycott” groups that came out lolol. i know they were trying to mock us, but if one of the arguments they have is that it’s stupid to boycott a game, is it not just as (or more) stupid to boycott a boycott? isn’t that just saying “i’ll join the Left 4 Dead 2 official group?” haha

By: Kamos

Kamos — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:01:42 +0000

Valve sucks.

By: dog

dog — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:58:44 +0000

the thing is, me and the group of player i play with are all getting a bit bored with l4d…

even if valve released 4 full new campaigns for l4d i’d still want to get l4d2 (not because i’m insanely rich, which i sure as hell aren’t) but because by the looks of it valve have taken everything that was good with l4d and improved it radically…

l4d has been, by far, the game i’ve had the most pleasure from in years.. why? because i’ve got a group of friends who i semi- regluarly meet up with and l4d did it exactly right for us… a well done, 4 player co-op that gets almost everything right and is simply extremely fun, tense, funny and challenging…

if valve to decide to revamp this great gaming experience every year, and bring something new and fun to i’d quite happily spend $50 a year to play it…

and yes, i was a bit disapointed they didn’t release more stuff for l4d, but to accuse them of lieing and cheating and ripping people off… i think its actualy really obvious what happened here… after l4d came out they started putting a small team doing DLC, campaigns etc…. then they realised how much more they could do with the game… they then decided to divert lots of manpower and resources (a ton of money) into pushing the game even further… expanding the AI, improving the engine producing lots of content and yes, the corporate fucks that they are decided to make a whole new game and charge for it.

the utter cads.

By: Gorgeras

Gorgeras — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:03:13 +0000

What you ‘purchase’ is a right. Some of us purchased a full-game, on the word that the rest of it would follow with regular content updates and SDK would be available just two weeks after release.

None of this happened. Valve did something very un-Valve with L4D; they betrayed the enormous goodwill they have with their player-base and made claims in such a way that it was just enough to get people to believe something that wasn’t true whilst not being enough to put them in breach of the law.

Legally, they’re in the clear, but morally they trashed the rights of a very loyal player-base to get what they paid for.

At no point has anyone wanted anything for ‘free’ or ‘something for nothing’. I want what I paid for.

By: Funky Badger

Funky Badger — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:46:01 +0000

Aaaaaah, but Lobotomist you’re failed to consider that in L4D with your side arm you get INFINITY bullets. How does that affect your calculus of worth, how I ask you?!

By: l4d Enthusiast

l4d Enthusiast — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:00:25 +0000

I already preordered ld42 (26 euros per person thanks to the four pack is a pretty good deal) but I have been enthusiastic about this sequel from the start.

Well to be honest I was enraged at first, because I expected episode 3. But after I read the first previews it was clear to me that it was going to be an interesting and warranted sequel

By: A-Scale

A-Scale — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:39:51 +0000

Did it really? Because I got laughed to hell every time I suggested it. It’s like asking one side of a checkers game to play without kings. It completely imbalances the game and breaks even further what was an already broken system. But I can see you’re an apologist rather than someone seeking discussion, so I’m done.

By: Hug_dealer

Hug_dealer — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:29:16 +0000

Yes the same ground keeps getting tread. mostly because some people cannot accept the fact that people are upset with valve not following through with thier promises.

Considering this is a thread about the end of the boycott. I think most people know what to expect coming in here.

By: The Unbelievable Guy

The Unbelievable Guy — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:25:37 +0000

…Did you really just use the phrase ‘sheeple’ without a hint of irony? My god. I thought this thread was about how the boycott was over. The same ground is being retread here, the exact same ground that is trod whenever this boycott is mentioned, the same tired arguments being wheeled out before the whole thing devolves into a pathetic slapfight. Hasn’t it already happened on this site once before? Have we learned nothing?

I love RPS too much to have it be buried under all this anti-L4D2/anti-boycott nonsense. Let’s just bury this shit forever and never bring it up again.

By: Über Nerd

Über Nerd — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:05:19 +0000

In other news, Killing Floor is preparing to release a new DLC with 7 new weapons, 3 maps from Grindhouse Contest (which is kind of moot as servers already run most maps from Grindhouse) and a new specimen. Which will be launched with a free weekend at 22nd.
http://www.killingfloorthegame.com/

In addition which never suffered the same conolitis that L4D suffered (not to mention so far all clips about L4D2 are from Xbox2)…

So…Yeah… I regret buying L4D already for a while…