Comments on: The Sunday Papers

By: Dorian Cornelius Jasper

Dorian Cornelius Jasper — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:14:16 +0000

Same here.

Dan Kim seems to switch between two states of mind: Depressingly Hilarious and Painfully Oblique.

By: Helm

Helm — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:18:16 +0000

I really like Vagabond, haven’t read any xXxHolic. The comics by Daniel Kim you linked sadly I find near impossible to follow. If there’s any storytelling going on in there, it’s not apparent to me at first read. Looks like a series of speed-paintings. Very gifted technically, though.

I appreciate the dialogue.

By: Jayt

Jayt — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:13:58 +0000

How did VG247 win? I swear every time I visit their homepage the news is at least a few days old.

By: Dorian Cornelius Jasper

Dorian Cornelius Jasper — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:34:28 +0000

The topic of Comics, always a good read. Also as reading material themselves.

I find stark and ambiguous black and white comics fascinating to look at, though it helps if there’s a contrast between detailed areas and vague, impressionist areas. The delightfully insane Daniel Kim does b&w, color, and grayscale equally well. Sometimes he’ll even put them together in the same image.

http://manga.clone-army.org/

There’s even some manga that downplay or even eschew tones in favor of a bolder aesthetic–whether for purposes of realism or to show off the virtues of expressive line in the manga style. xXxHolic and Vagabond come to mind. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind is a classic and thoroughly overwhelming in its detailed hatching, but at the same time Miyazaki knows when to step back to create an impressionist image using only pure light and shadow.

(And with some embarrassment I find my examples are decidedly Japan-centric.)

By: mattwombat

mattwombat — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:17:03 +0000

Yup.

Still going strong after all this time. They’re touring the UK as we speak (incase yer interested), I’m off to see em on Wednesday.

By: sinister agent

sinister agent — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:34:45 +0000

That Batman piece is right – generally, I mean, as I’ve not played it yet. I’ve played many games that do that, though (the worst offender by far being MGS4 – just thinking about that one makes my eyes twitch), and it’s bloody infuriating.

By: invisiblejesus

invisiblejesus — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:14:05 +0000

I get what you mean, ganging up might not have been the best choice of words. It seemed to me that Faliszek just became less important to f the conversation later on, so while mathematically he’s another voice for whatever “emergent storytelling” is supposed to be, he doesn’t really contribute or detract much to this particular article past the beginning. For all useful purposes it’s basically Tournquist and Hocking after the first page.

By: Larington

Larington — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:04:16 +0000

I should probably also add I didn’t feel it was ganging up as such, just that the numbers put the conversation out of balance, so it was 33/66 instead of 50/50.

By: Larington

Larington — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:58:11 +0000

Having done a bit of gamemastering myself for stuff like Hackmaster & Star Wars (Plus I’ve got more or less unused books for the Babylon 5 RPG around here somewhere), I know its real hard, especially when you’ve got to build all this content to give things the grounding that makes everything at least believable. Theres lots of challenges, both business and design related which still need to be overcome (The business challenges more than the design chalenges these days imho) but the results would very much be worth it.
I’ll try giving the article another shot tomorrow, but yeah, I do wish they’d had a second pro authored story person there just so that there was a voice to agree with authored stories as there was with the emergent player stories.

By: Lambchops

Lambchops — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:55:04 +0000

@ John
I think the majority (and certainly the ones who started the call for complaints) are fully aware that they are using the same tactics that Daily Mail readers often use. Having seen mass calls to complain about things often based on sweet bugger all from the likes of the Mail I'd imagine most of the liberal Twitter folks would describe complaining to the IPCC as a "subversion" of the usual tactics of the morally outraged for a "right and just" end.
Good on them for doing so – it's about time someone complained about something worthwhile like vile discrimination rather than a harmless bit of nudity or swearing.

By: John Walker

John Walker — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:09:51 +0000

A couple of thoughts: I deliberately didn’t use terms like “left” and “right” in that piece, since I know people entrenched in right-wards politics who were outraged by that Moir piece. I think it’s a liberal/illiberal divide. I’m also not sure I condemn the tactics of the typical illiberal Mail reader – I’m more asking the question whether the Twitter liberalites are conscious that they’re so completely adopting the tactics of their declared enemy. It might be the right thing to do, but I’m asking.

By: neems

neems — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:04:12 +0000

Pop Will Eat Itself = best band ever (along with The Pixies).