Comments on: Money For Old Europa: For The Glory Demo

By: Railick

Railick — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:32:06 +0000

I just got EU:Rome, have to say the map is mind blowingly beautiful ! :)

By: Andrew Dunn

Andrew Dunn — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:03:30 +0000

I think I would like to play this game. I love me some EU3 (with In Nomine, it’s at least Nuclear Fission, though I’ve never got on with Magna Mundi) and I’m a big fan of more historically-driven Paradox games. 10,000 historical events sounds orgasmic.

By: Silverhood

Silverhood — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:25:50 +0000

It’s just a mod that’s been released as a standalone game.
If you want a good time in EU3, I’d recommend the Magna Mundi mod. If vanilla EU3 is banging the rocks together to make fire, then MM is nuclear fusion.

By: Pod

Pod — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:19:09 +0000

So how is this different from EU2/EU3?

By: Oak

Oak — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:24:51 +0000

I think I see where he’s coming from. You’d assume, from a description of a typical Paradox game, that it’s turn-based: big scale, long timespan, no tactical battles. Lots of time spent reviewing information and waiting for things to happen.

By: Vinraith

Vinraith — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:41:42 +0000

The EU2/EU3 thing is a false dichotomy. They’re different enough games that they can peacefully coexist, and they both have their strengths.

And yes, I was pleased to hear about the new EU3 expansion too.

By: Nimic

Nimic — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:37:36 +0000

EU2 is a great game, but EU3 is simply better. I was part of the “EU2 > EU3″ crowd for a long time, but with IN (In Nomine, a small expansion), it’s really almost as good as it gets. And they’re making another small expansion! (Note, they’re making the expansion only after posting a poll on the official forums asking us if we really wanted another expansion, as they had a few ideas they thought would be worth it. The results were massively in favour.

By: Vinraith

Vinraith — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:32:28 +0000

I’m not aware of a Paradox-developed game that does not allow you to issue orders when paused, I’d be right there with you complaining about their real-time-ness if that was not the case. I can personally vouch for EU2, Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron 2, EU3, Victoria, and EU: Rome in this regard (as I’ve actually personally paused and isued orders in each of those) but I’m given to understand they’re all that way.

Have fun. :)

By: DMcCool

DMcCool — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:16:42 +0000

I swear the demo I played did not allow you to actually do anything when paused. If the games do, then, oh dear…

There goes my free time.

By: Vinraith

Vinraith — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:48:27 +0000

2d maps are, to me, just plain prettier. I look at the screen shots for FTG, with the EU2 map at respectable modern resolutions, and it’s just so clearly better than anything anyone has ever done with the EU3 map. This is clearly a matter of opinion, and clearly we’re going to have to agree to disagree.

As to not caring about FTG, that too is a matter of taste. EU2 and EU3 are very different games, in no small part due to the way they handle history and events, and I’m happy to keep a place for both on my hard drive. FTG looks like a better way to play EU2, so I’ll likely pick it up.

By: Vinraith

Vinraith — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:32:36 +0000

“Well you can pause the game and it goes very very slowly.”

Actually when it’s paused it’s completely stopped.

By: Vinraith

Vinraith — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:27:46 +0000

Speaking as a turn based strategy gamer, I can’t comprehend your problem. You can run them fast, run them slow, or run them paused. You can do anything you want paused, and then run the clock forward until something requires interaction, then pause and issue again. This is the way many, many people play and it basically IS turn-based, it just allows you to control the length of a turn. There's certainly all the time you could ever want to ponder, and no need to ever panic about time, since the game clock only advances when you tell it to do so. Try a demo or something, I think you have the wrong impression about how these games play.