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		<title>By: Petërkopf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petërkopf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grrrrrreat, another Invisible War. 

I think it&#039;s high time developers stopped jerking us around for a fistful of dollars. I&#039;m tired of imagining what a game like Operation Flashpoint: DR (to pick one among a thousand) would be like if it hadn&#039;t made all those concessions to the console audience.

I&#039;m on the brink of throwing something rash out there, like: &quot;First person shooters are shit on consoles&quot;. It wouldn&#039;t be fair or enlightened, but as a first person shooter fan, I&#039;ve never had an experience, save for maybe Halo with all of it&#039;s specialized controls and benign aiming system, on a console. Certainly not one where I didn&#039;t feel majorly encumbered by the fact that the standard console, still going on the basic designs of it&#039;s ancestry, just wasn&#039;t built for a game like that.

Even Bioshock felt weird and bothersome on my &#039;Box, for all it&#039;s steampunky, everspawning glory.

Saying that FPS is strictly PC would be ignorant though. It can be done (Halo and such). But you can&#039;t make a PC FPS work on a console, or a console FPS work on PC, without that uncomfortable uncanny valley feel to it. It&#039;s just wrong.

I guess it&#039;s just a case of petty greed ruining games that should have been grand works. When did the games industry start working like the (douchy) music industry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grrrrrreat, another Invisible War. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s high time developers stopped jerking us around for a fistful of dollars. I&#8217;m tired of imagining what a game like Operation Flashpoint: DR (to pick one among a thousand) would be like if it hadn&#8217;t made all those concessions to the console audience.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on the brink of throwing something rash out there, like: &#8220;First person shooters are shit on consoles&#8221;. It wouldn&#8217;t be fair or enlightened, but as a first person shooter fan, I&#8217;ve never had an experience, save for maybe Halo with all of it&#8217;s specialized controls and benign aiming system, on a console. Certainly not one where I didn&#8217;t feel majorly encumbered by the fact that the standard console, still going on the basic designs of it&#8217;s ancestry, just wasn&#8217;t built for a game like that.</p>
<p>Even Bioshock felt weird and bothersome on my &#8216;Box, for all it&#8217;s steampunky, everspawning glory.</p>
<p>Saying that FPS is strictly PC would be ignorant though. It can be done (Halo and such). But you can&#8217;t make a PC FPS work on a console, or a console FPS work on PC, without that uncomfortable uncanny valley feel to it. It&#8217;s just wrong.</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s just a case of petty greed ruining games that should have been grand works. When did the games industry start working like the (douchy) music industry?
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		<title>By: Wisq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wisq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I applaud your use of sarcasm and irony, sir.

Unless you were being serious, that is.  In which case ... um, what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud your use of sarcasm and irony, sir.</p>
<p>Unless you were being serious, that is.  In which case &#8230; um, what?
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		<title>By: David Macphail</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Macphail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further proof that PC gaming is dead, devs can&#039;t afford to make exclusive games for such a shoddy, half - baked gaming device anymore so they decide to give it to REAL (Console) gamers. It&#039;s no wonder, really. Console versions of games ALWAYS sell better than PC versions so this benefits everyone. Now the Deus Ex franchise won&#039;t be swamped in mediocrity anymore. Console game = real game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further proof that PC gaming is dead, devs can&#8217;t afford to make exclusive games for such a shoddy, half &#8211; baked gaming device anymore so they decide to give it to REAL (Console) gamers. It&#8217;s no wonder, really. Console versions of games ALWAYS sell better than PC versions so this benefits everyone. Now the Deus Ex franchise won&#8217;t be swamped in mediocrity anymore. Console game = real game.
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		<title>By: hoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Year-old comment by Rene is old.

This is just a way of calming PC-fanboys (like... 90% of the Deus Ex fanbase) by saying &quot;We promise that there will be a PC port of our XBox 360 game. We&#039;re not sure whether we&#039;ll port it to the PS3 or Wii yet.&quot;

Clever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Year-old comment by Rene is old.</p>
<p>This is just a way of calming PC-fanboys (like&#8230; 90% of the Deus Ex fanbase) by saying &#8220;We promise that there will be a PC port of our XBox 360 game. We&#8217;re not sure whether we&#8217;ll port it to the PS3 or Wii yet.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clever.
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		<title>By: oddshrub</title>
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		<dc:creator>oddshrub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JKjoker
Rogues aren&#039;t rogues in their traditional AD&amp;D sense anymore, not even in D&amp;D. Today they&#039;re about DPS first and various dirty fighting second. DAO does that pretty well I think and they function very differently from how fighters function since you&#039;ve got to be much more aware of where you are on the battlefield to maximize your DPS.

Personally I like the change mainly because video game RPGs, are, about fighting. I&#039;ve been to entire weekend long pnp sessions where we didn&#039;t fight but just amused ourselves with RP. Going an hour without fighting is pretty rare in any video game RPG I&#039;ve ever played.

As for having more magic items. Heh. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll ever understand the obsession people have with loot, or achievements for that matter. I never collected stamps, bottle caps or whatever so why would I collect their virtual version? :p Not that I&#039;m blind, I see the horde of people who want moar itamz - but I think it&#039;s pretty rabid amongst console gamers aswell.

Customized characters is a different story though. I think a lot of people would&#039;ve liked to be able to mix the talents and spells a little, for example to make a paladin. I also think this applies to anyone regardless of what platform version of the game they own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JKjoker<br />
Rogues aren&#8217;t rogues in their traditional AD&amp;D sense anymore, not even in D&amp;D. Today they&#8217;re about DPS first and various dirty fighting second. DAO does that pretty well I think and they function very differently from how fighters function since you&#8217;ve got to be much more aware of where you are on the battlefield to maximize your DPS.</p>
<p>Personally I like the change mainly because video game RPGs, are, about fighting. I&#8217;ve been to entire weekend long pnp sessions where we didn&#8217;t fight but just amused ourselves with RP. Going an hour without fighting is pretty rare in any video game RPG I&#8217;ve ever played.</p>
<p>As for having more magic items. Heh. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll ever understand the obsession people have with loot, or achievements for that matter. I never collected stamps, bottle caps or whatever so why would I collect their virtual version? :p Not that I&#8217;m blind, I see the horde of people who want moar itamz &#8211; but I think it&#8217;s pretty rabid amongst console gamers aswell.</p>
<p>Customized characters is a different story though. I think a lot of people would&#8217;ve liked to be able to mix the talents and spells a little, for example to make a paladin. I also think this applies to anyone regardless of what platform version of the game they own.
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		<title>By: name</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS EXCLUSIVE TO THE PC PPPPLLLLLLLLEEEEEAAAASSSSEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the PC needs all the exclusives it can get, im sick and tired of getting cheap crappy console ports.
i just bought a 3K PC the beginning of this year hoping to try out some seriously teched out games, but was extremley severely disappointed.
crysis is the best the platform has to offer.
a 2006 game.
both the ps3 and 360 HELL EVEN THE WII have evolved since then.
how the hell can a 2007 game have better graphics than a bloody 2009 game, seriously that is seriously sad!
i really want to put my PC to the test, and i cant wait till the end of next year when crysis 2 or RAGE come out.
what happened to the good old days where PCs  were leaps and bounds above consoles.
why buy a new video card, or new CPU when there is no application there that is required for it?
i built a PC with a asus P7 deluxe, 1 Nvidia 9800GTX+ intell I7 920 and 4GBs DDR3 RAM.
hardly the highest tech out there, more like high medium and it can run anything on max settings.
if a I7 920 and a Nvidia 9800GTX+ can run anything on max settings, than what is the point of buying anything higher like a 280GTX or a intell I7 980 think its called.
why?
whats the point?
why buy the new cards ATI have released, or the cards Nvidia are about to release when a card what 3 years old? will do the same job.
whats the point?
whats the point of having all of this new tech with nothing to take advantage of it?
sounds like EXTREME! overkill to me.
its like hiring a crane to life a box of tissues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS EXCLUSIVE TO THE PC PPPPLLLLLLLLEEEEEAAAASSSSEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
the PC needs all the exclusives it can get, im sick and tired of getting cheap crappy console ports.<br />
i just bought a 3K PC the beginning of this year hoping to try out some seriously teched out games, but was extremley severely disappointed.<br />
crysis is the best the platform has to offer.<br />
a 2006 game.<br />
both the ps3 and 360 HELL EVEN THE WII have evolved since then.<br />
how the hell can a 2007 game have better graphics than a bloody 2009 game, seriously that is seriously sad!<br />
i really want to put my PC to the test, and i cant wait till the end of next year when crysis 2 or RAGE come out.<br />
what happened to the good old days where PCs  were leaps and bounds above consoles.<br />
why buy a new video card, or new CPU when there is no application there that is required for it?<br />
i built a PC with a asus P7 deluxe, 1 Nvidia 9800GTX+ intell I7 920 and 4GBs DDR3 RAM.<br />
hardly the highest tech out there, more like high medium and it can run anything on max settings.<br />
if a I7 920 and a Nvidia 9800GTX+ can run anything on max settings, than what is the point of buying anything higher like a 280GTX or a intell I7 980 think its called.<br />
why?<br />
whats the point?<br />
why buy the new cards ATI have released, or the cards Nvidia are about to release when a card what 3 years old? will do the same job.<br />
whats the point?<br />
whats the point of having all of this new tech with nothing to take advantage of it?<br />
sounds like EXTREME! overkill to me.<br />
its like hiring a crane to life a box of tissues.
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		<title>By: Urthman</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wulf, I strongly support the idea that games should have adjustable font sizes to cater to people with differing visual abilities.

But strongly oppose the idea that PC game makers should just use huge fonts like consoles do.

Oblivion&#039;s default huge UI was a joke.  You could only see maybe 6 things in your inventory at a time.   I&#039;m so grateful modders created a better, more Morrowind-sized UI before I got around to playing it.  The health bars and compass obscured a ridiculous amount of the screen.

Torchlight&#039;s font is way too big.  In some battles the huge damage numbers completely obscure the action.  I wish the font was adjustable so you could keep it the way you like it and I could make it about half the size it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wulf, I strongly support the idea that games should have adjustable font sizes to cater to people with differing visual abilities.</p>
<p>But strongly oppose the idea that PC game makers should just use huge fonts like consoles do.</p>
<p>Oblivion&#8217;s default huge UI was a joke.  You could only see maybe 6 things in your inventory at a time.   I&#8217;m so grateful modders created a better, more Morrowind-sized UI before I got around to playing it.  The health bars and compass obscured a ridiculous amount of the screen.</p>
<p>Torchlight&#8217;s font is way too big.  In some battles the huge damage numbers completely obscure the action.  I wish the font was adjustable so you could keep it the way you like it and I could make it about half the size it is.
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		<title>By: Soobe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ gary  - Agreed as well.

You know what though...I&#039;m willing to bet that on paper both games (had they not been attached to any brand name, just simply a set of concepts) Flashpoint would have sounded just as good as ARMA2, if not better. (In fact they did sound equally good on paper, if we&#039;re talking previews on game sites)

But no--in reality with ARMA 2&#039;s development their was CLEARLY a whole mess of &quot;eh, good enough&quot; going around, and while the extra complexity and lower production values threw me off at first, in the end it won me over precisely because I had to invest more time to master the game. Again, same with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and The Witcher.

Their is simply too much polish expected in most console games, and so only the ones that have enough talent on the dev staff where they can go back again and again to implement &quot;just one more feature&quot; yet stay on or close to budget do we get something that turns out interesting (Batman AA and Metal Gear et al).

Lest I pigeon holed though, the Manhunt PC port was one of my favorite games of last year : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ gary  &#8211; Agreed as well.</p>
<p>You know what though&#8230;I&#8217;m willing to bet that on paper both games (had they not been attached to any brand name, just simply a set of concepts) Flashpoint would have sounded just as good as ARMA2, if not better. (In fact they did sound equally good on paper, if we&#8217;re talking previews on game sites)</p>
<p>But no&#8211;in reality with ARMA 2&#8242;s development their was CLEARLY a whole mess of &#8220;eh, good enough&#8221; going around, and while the extra complexity and lower production values threw me off at first, in the end it won me over precisely because I had to invest more time to master the game. Again, same with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and The Witcher.</p>
<p>Their is simply too much polish expected in most console games, and so only the ones that have enough talent on the dev staff where they can go back again and again to implement &#8220;just one more feature&#8221; yet stay on or close to budget do we get something that turns out interesting (Batman AA and Metal Gear et al).</p>
<p>Lest I pigeon holed though, the Manhunt PC port was one of my favorite games of last year : )
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		<title>By: redrain85</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gutter:
&lt;blockquote&gt;PC fanboys like to complain don’t they…&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And console fanboys don&#039;t?

I&#039;ve seen just as much whinging from their camp.  I remember when Capcom announced the Versus DLC would cost money for Resident Evil 5.  It was $5, which wasn&#039;t exactly highway robbery.  But no, call the waahmbulance, stat!

I&#039;m tired of people somehow trying to make it sound like it&#039;s just PC gamers that like to complain.  All platforms provide equal opportunity for whiners.</description>
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<blockquote><p>PC fanboys like to complain don’t they…</p></blockquote>
<p>And console fanboys don&#8217;t?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen just as much whinging from their camp.  I remember when Capcom announced the Versus DLC would cost money for Resident Evil 5.  It was $5, which wasn&#8217;t exactly highway robbery.  But no, call the waahmbulance, stat!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tired of people somehow trying to make it sound like it&#8217;s just PC gamers that like to complain.  All platforms provide equal opportunity for whiners.
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		<title>By: Derf</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PC exclusive? Pfff, please. Since when does business prefer quality over profit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PC exclusive? Pfff, please. Since when does business prefer quality over profit?
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the original Deus Ex and I think the 3rd one could be a lot of fun. Not fussed if it&#039;s a PC exclusive... not sure why anyone cares, to be honest :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the original Deus Ex and I think the 3rd one could be a lot of fun. Not fussed if it&#8217;s a PC exclusive&#8230; not sure why anyone cares, to be honest :)
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		<title>By: Pantsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pantsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it was all a big misunderstanding then?  Ah well.  As long as PC is still the lead platform, it should be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it was all a big misunderstanding then?  Ah well.  As long as PC is still the lead platform, it should be fine.
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