Comments on: The (Mostly) Complete IGF Factor 2010

By: Burningpet

Burningpet — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:26:13 +0000

By the way, i dont think that Heroes of Newerth should have been judged strictly by its coding, i actually agree with kieron, this game shouldnt have been nominated at all.

its a good game and i enjoy it, but its completly unoriginal in all aspects.

By: Burningpet

Burningpet — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:00:02 +0000

not in its netcode aspects, which i suspect, is what gave them the nomination.

By: M

Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:08:03 +0000

It’s not really, is it? It looks like pretty much any old game. If you’re saying they’ve achieved a professional look despite being Indie then, fine, but that’s not what the award is for in my opinion. Games like Closure offer up a far more interesting technical accomplishment, actual feats of coding meeting design and creating something playable. Newerth is very average.

By: Burningpet

Burningpet — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:53:48 +0000

if Heroes of Newerth should have been judged for its technical aspects and them alone. they should have won.

the game isnt innovative at all and the engine is a slightly modified former engine they made for another game, and yeah, they arent the usual indie team we love to pet (even though they are as indie as the term applies), but the game itself is technically more impressive than the rest in that group.

By: terry

terry — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:48:44 +0000

I am going to play the shit out of Monaco.

By: Matt R

Matt R — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:57:04 +0000

Too bad Gamestop’s video stream cut Warren Spector off at the end there.

By: Oh My God A Bomb

Oh My God A Bomb — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:22:48 +0000

@Larington

I facepalm’d

By: Larington

Larington — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:25:48 +0000

Deus Ex 3 Trailer: http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/107/1077019p1.html

By: Larington

Larington — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:54:31 +0000

Rumour mill: A trailer for Deus Ex 3 ran after the gamespot video concluded. I’m a tad miffed about that, for obvious reasons. The last bit of info that came out was a screenshot of the flame of a lighter, I felt thoroughly trolled.

By: Frank

Frank — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:47:35 +0000

Hooray for Monaco, indeed!

Too bad Gamestop’s video stream cut Warren Spector off at the end there.

By: Mario Figueiredo

Mario Figueiredo — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:04:54 +0000

>> But saying that an indie contest shouldn’t judge games based on indie-ness is silly.

You missed the part where i say “at this stage”. Meaning, it’s not after the game made it to finalist that this should be an issue.

By: Wulf

Wulf — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:45:19 +0000

I’m getting a 9.5 on my snooty-o-metre, here.

There’s nothing wrong with — as you say — indie-ness, the problem arises when it’s a competition, and as the bloke said, there should be a criteria for entry, which would remove all the faffing around over it. But saying that an indie contest shouldn’t judge games based on indie-ness is silly. That’s like saying that a top ten games list shouldn’t judge the best games based on game-ness. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, it’s just the concept is silly to me. Indie contest, indie games, people judging indie games, and judging by their own criteria on what makes a great indie game, which is probably indie-ness, then.

It’s just that they need to make their criteria for judging and entry known. In fact, this is a problem for IGF and it has been with every IGF thus far, there’s been some controversy surrounding it. The problem arises when there are many, many judges and each of them has their own idea of what indie is and makes their judgements based on that. A criteria is necessary, but there’s no need for nostril-flaring at the word ‘indie’, and I certainly don’t believe that it’s a common concept that indie is equated to unsuccessful.

Braid was hugely successful. Is there anyone who’d say that Braid isn’t indie?