The Alan Titchmarsh Show On Videogames

By Kieron Gillen on March 22nd, 2010 at 7:42 pm.

Sigh.

Because we really probably should post it even though no-one has the time to take it properly to task. I suspect we’d have said something similar to The Sixth Axis’ Open letter to ITV. You have to feel for C&VG’s Tim Ingham, who even by appearing on the show is pretty damn brave. Putting aside the research seemingly pulled from thin air, the latter-day attempt to link the Bulger killing to videogames is openly disgraceful. Watch and despair.

UPDATE: C&VG Uncover some interesting stuff about the vehemently anti-violent entertainment Julie Peasgood. She voice-acted in the old, terrible game Martian Gothic. The word you’re looking for is “Hypocrite”. It doesn’t mean that she’s particularly judgmental of large, African water-dwelling mammals.

As the Sixth Axis note, if you want to compose a polite complaint to ITV, here’s their contact details. I stress, polite.

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  1. YamNivek says:

    I only recently found this blog. Been a PCG reader for years.

    Just watched this video and my reaction is

    RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    yep, that about sums it up

  2. SH4RKY says:

    Tim Ingham deserves a medal. it was obvious he was the only one that actually understood and knows the industry. the other 2 just pulled facts from the air and have a preset idea in their head that nothing will change.

    I love the way they kept skipping round the fact that Tim reinforced over and over and over… Kids shouldnt be playing 18 rated games and its down to the parents to enforce this as they see fit. Im sorry, but its that damn simple.

  3. Dan North says:

    “A tsunami of violence”. Wonderful.

    And the “have you got kids?” attack. Priceless.

    I just wish Tim Ingham hadn’t backed into the “movies are much worse than games” defence….

  4. Ado says:

    Argh, honestly I do wonder if these people actually think about what they say before they say it.

    Titchmarsh saying that you can stop a child going into a cinema but you can’t stop them playing a game in the home WTF? Did he never get a VCR never mind a DVD player, and at least games machines can be set-up not to play these games where as I can’t remember a feature on a DVD player to stop age rated films being played. I suppose you can set this feature on a DigiBox but a kid could easily watch terrestrial TV late at night in their room and be exposed to even worse things than Call of Duty.

    Also, the guy on the end’s ramble about games becoming ever more realistic seems to fall down on the fact that CGI has done the same with films.

    It just seems to me that parents want to blame the people that make games instead of taking responsibility for their children. I can’t count the number of times an adult came into the games shop I used to work in (some 8 years ago now) and buy an 18 game for the child stood next to them. Most of them get really offended when you advise them it might not be suitable for their spawn too. Honestly, talk about a responsibility-less society. And then they wonder why their kids take no responsibility for their actions.

    Sort your own house out first, either that or just stop breeding you bottom feeders!!

  5. darksiderob says:

    Tim did a fantastic job of trying to illustrate the up-side of video games…but there’s really no point in trying to explain these things to people who categorically go out of there way to hate something they don’t play, understand, or interact with. The host didn’t even know there was a video game rating system in place to prevent kids from getting their hands on violent video games. I mean, that’s just not doing your homework…or not caring to be accurate in exchange for being provocative.

    And the thing that is so insulting is that people don’t seem to get the idea that video games aimed at adults are made for adults…not for children. They don’t care about the video games that are out there for kids because it doesn’t help their cause of wiping video games from the map…because, you know, we all have to think, act, talk, and breathe alike.

    The argument isn’t going to go away. And if it does…what ever overtakes video games years and years from now will receive the same treatment then that video games do now.

  6. bill says:

    Another disgraceful tv representation of video games messing up kids:

    • T-Bone says:

      @bill

      That’s the Onion, a well known news parody site. It’s called satire, kiddo.

  7. Leonard Hatred says:

    I’ll happily let my son play videogames appropriate for children his age, but i don’t want him exposed to ITV’s programming.

  8. sacchi says:

    I have recently seen a clip of this show where the issue of video games and violence was discussed.

    I would like to politely express my discontent with your show. There are many reasons for why I am disappointed with it. First of all, it is clear that there was not an intellectual debate presented but instead a biased discussion in which a professional journalist had to defend his position against 2 other guests, and the host of the show, Alan, who for some reason decided it was best to ask the video game journalist questions, instead of maintaining a neutral position and either asking no questions at all or asking both sides of the debate questions. I’m also mad at the fact that while you invited two guests to criticize video games, you only invited a single guest to defend them. Therefore, that’s why I claim that your show was biased 3 vs 1.

    To make matters worse, the audience was clearly used in order to show video games as a negative problem that should be solved, with the audience clearly being controlled to only applaud when video games were being attacked. While I am sure that you have no control over the audience’s actions, since that would be foolish, I cannot but wonder how weird it is that for some reason, the audience only boo’ed when the journalist talked and applauded everyone else.

    I cannot also but criticize your choice of guests against video games. Not only did Julie Peasgood and the other man have silly arguments to offer, such as video games promoting “hatred, violence and sexism” with no reference to other ways of media such as movies and other TV Shows, which clearly promote those values too, but they also avoided the journalist’s arguments regarding the absolute fact that children do not get their hands on violent video games unless bad parents buy them for them. It shows that your guests were nothing but hypocrites, decided to try to make a false point without actually debating and counter-attacking any of the journalist’s arguments for real.

    Finally, I believe that you should either repeat the debate in a well-mannered, civil and fair way, or you should ask for apologies either on the Net or on your show itself. Criticizing the video game industry brings nothing but the public against it, which is bad for its economy. In case you did not know, the video game is a billion-making industry and many developers currently design games in Great Britain, games which are very successful worth wide that are both taxed and controlled by the government.

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    Best e-mail I’ve ever written in my life.

  9. H says:

    Got a reply back from OFCOM at the weekend, but it was basically telling me there were no issues with the regulations and it was all lovely and shiny and nice and I was a git. What can you do, eh?

  10. Ewan McNaughton says:

    The only guest with an argument which was in any way coherent and relevant was the young chap, I loved his point that the same violence in the same context can be seen in literature and film. Why should these games be any more addictive than this new breed of gore-porn, surely there wouldn’t be a saw10, or whatever we’re on now, if that was true. The boot in the middle has no idea what she’s on about. give us some pop culture references, rather than the popular close minded “I’m an angry mum, boo-hoo” stance.

    Anyway, I’m angry.

    And Titch: Stick to what you know eh? Rhododendrons and outlandish decking.

  11. tomx says:

    I think parents should be responsible enough what their kids are into. But they should not be too protective.
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