Dr Who’s Marvellous Videogame Adventures

By Jim Rossignol on April 19th, 2010 at 12:57 pm.


I can’t wait to see if these games are good, because then I can use the phrase “time-lauded”. In fact I’ve probably already used it. Anyway, the first footage from the BBC’s free-to-play adventures with The Doctor has materialised on the distant edge of the YouTube nebulae, and we’ve embedded it below. Daleks make threats that their sink plungers can’t cash, or something.

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  1. Alexander Norris says:

    I dislike adventure games, but this actually looks surprisingly unbad. I think it’s the third-person actioniness of it that makes me think it might be enjoyable.

  2. Will Tomas says:

    Kudos for them for putting up in-game footage rather than a random montage of CGI shots, but as with every adventure game they are never well suited to action-packed trailers. So I’m going to withhold judgement until they come out. And, hey, they’re free (or… wait! I’ve paid for them already with my BBC-tax!) so I might as well give them a shot.

  3. toastmonster says:

    WOULD YOU CARE FOR SOME TEA?

  4. Samuel Bigos says:

    That trailer was just him running around some WWII ruins… Dr Who is awesome anyway so I hope this is a least worth playing for free.

  5. The_B says:

    I’m being a total arse if I was to be picky about using the Old logo for this story, right? I mean, the new one isn’t great but my brain already associates the Matt Smith era with it.

    I’m sorry! *Weeps*

    • Man Raised By Puffins says:

      Pffft, not nearly sorry enough…

    • Grunt says:

      Don’t worry, mate, I cringed in a similar fashion. I was more than happy to see the back of Tennant’s Doctor, and after three squeeesome, allons-y-ing years that logo is firmly associated with it.

      Poor show, RPS! The new logo is king. Long live the new logo!

  6. Calabi says:

    At least its not set in a council estate.

    • Wulf says:

      Crass, disappointingly crass.

    • Grunt says:

      I agree. I’d much prefer to have the Doctor wandering alien landscapes and strange timezones than see yet-another-council-estate, possibly one of the dullest, most soulless environments humankind has ever created.

    • Wulf says:

      Crass for the sake of being crass, it’s the lowest form of humour, even below sarcasm, and it’s what cavemen experimented with before moving onto more eloquent ways of making people laugh. It’s typically English, I’ll give you that, but that doesn’t elevate it even the slightest.

      So, for falling to the bottom of the ladder, and then digging yourself a deep, dirty ditch from there, I award you a golf-clap.

      /golfclaps

  7. Hazelnut says:

    I’m looking forward to these immensely, although not as much as I was before this weekend’s episode… what was that POS? Did I miss a big section, or do the plots not have to make sense now?

    Hope it gets back on track with the weeping angels next week.

    • Will Tomas says:

      Make that the last two episodes – I thought the one before this week’s was just as nonsensical. I’m willing to give them time though, both episodes felt like they would have worked at 1 hour and a half and they had to hack half the script away.

      I don’t know why, frankly, given that they’re all written by people who wrote for the earlier series, but it might suggest Russell T Davies was rather good at trimming scripts into shape for 45 mins, a skill Steven Moffat may need time to get. It’s like the girl in the last episode who lost her boyfriend – it would have had potential as a plot point had it meant anything and we actually met her, and I suspect in an earlier draft we did, but since we only ever saw her in the background it became entirely pointless. Don’t like the new plastic-toy model Daleks either, so it’s a shame they’re the ones used in the game.

      I’m less convinced too about Matt Smith, who does need to work on his ‘menacing’ and ‘angry’ – it doesn’t work at all. David Tennant could pull off threatening and dark, I don’t think Matt Smith can yet. Also needs time. Karen Gillan’s good though. At least the voice acting and look with be authentic.

    • Wulf says:

      I must be some kind of supergenius (or have a bit of imagination) then because the plot made perfect sense to me. Did you not understand? I’ll try and explain…

      - Daleks fall from time war, find themselves near Earth, Churchill era.
      - The daleks are not pure dalek DNA.
      - They have a progenitor device on board, this is a dalek generator, it makes daleks.
      - The daleks don’t have pure DNA, so they’re inferior creatures which the progenitor refuses to acknowledge as daleks.
      - They need a way to access the progenitor.
      - They hatch a plan to get the Doctor, the most respected and feared enemy of the daleks, to exclaim that they are the daleks, which would be testimony enough to convince the progenitor that they are true daleks.
      - They pretend to be British soldiers, they create a Scientist and set up the whole thing as one massive mindfuck for the Doctor.
      - The Doctor gets mindfucked and screams “I AM THE DOCTAH, AND YOU ARE THE DALEKS!”
      - That’s taken as testimony and the progenitor then permits the daleks to use it.
      - As mentioned, the progenitor is a dalek generation device, it generates a new era of daleks.
      - Except the progenitor is pure dalek DNA, so the daleks are far closer to the original daleks, the first ones.
      - The Scientist was a robot the daleks built to help them mindfuck the Doctor.
      - The Scientist uses dalek knowledge to retrofit a few planes with dalek laser technology, and other things including a gravity bubble) to allow them to function in space.
      - The daleks threaten to blow up the Scientist robot’s power core to get the Doctor to call off the attack.
      - The Doctor does, but being daleks they do it anyway, but this gives him some time to get back.
      - They convince the robot to reprogram itself via emotions and such, and the bomb is shut down.
      - The Earth is saved, but the daleks are once more able to plague the Universe.
      - Amy doesn’t remember the dalek invasion, she should, this is to do with the time cracks.
      - The time cracks are very likely caused by the TARDIS, since the pop up at every location the TARDIS has visited (hence the multi-form mocking the Doctor for not knowing where they come from).

      And that’s pretty much it.

      Also, I don’t think Matt Smith was exactly trying to be ‘dark and threatening’, but rather ‘crazed and eccentric’. I personally prefer his Doctor to Tennant’s, because he’s more of a Tom Baker Doctor, and comes over as more authentic.

      But hey, just my opinion.

    • Nesetalis says:

      he does strike me as a tom bakerish doctor.. which, is good in its own right. every doctor should be different from the last :p if he was like David, it would be awkward i think.

      I think hes doing just fine, but yeah the writers need a bit of work.

    • bob_d says:

      I’m with Will Tomas; so much narrative seemed to get trimmed out at some point that the plots just jump around from one point to another without adequately covering the intervening distance, narratively speaking.
      It’s as if the scripts were written for the old series- that is, about six 30 minute episodes, but then got cut down to fit in a 60 minute episode. I could easily see a whole episode or two of the old series just investigating the issue of what the Daleks were up to pretending to be under human control, slowly building up the mystery and mood of menace, for example. Instead we get the Doctor simply confronting the Daleks and getting an immediate answer, we get the resurrection and semi-defeat of the new Daleks in a matter of moments, and we get undeveloped subplots involving characters we were never really introduced to in the first place (there is certainly no way we could care about them). The previous episode had the same problem, but to the lesser degree; the whole smiler subplot, for example: “There’s this creepy fascist government that seems to be controlled by these smilers, and uh oh, they’re dangerous and after the protagonists, but oh, we’re not interested in that any more because they aren’t actually relevant to the main plot in any way, the end.” By the time I started to feel the menace, the script had already started losing interest in them. Too much stuff for one hour. I hope they sort that out soon.

  8. ulix says:

    WHat exactly didn’t make sense in this weeks episode? I saw only 2 logic-flaws (which is an icredibly low number for new Dr. Who). Him defusing the bomb by making the robot guy think he is human (why should that work? Also to melodramatic for my tastes). And him just leaving the robot guy in 1940s Britain. Why didn’t he take him to the future somewhere, where he couldn’t fuck up timelines by inventing incredible shit?

    • Larington says:

      I also had issues with the variable accuracy of the Daleks, a group of fighter planes approaching one of the inferior daleks can be torn to shreds in seconds, but several of the new superior daleks couldn’t get one clean shot as he runs through a doorway. It seems the Daleks have been turned into stormtroopers, which takes all the tension out of any sequence where the Daleks are about to fire on the Doctor or other important characters.
      But I’m not the target audience anymore so…

    • Wulf says:

      I don’t know if the daleks are superior daleks, so much as original daleks. But that’s what I got from it.

    • Wulf says:

      Also!

      “Him defusing the bomb by making the robot guy think he is human (why should that work?”

      If we accept that he’s a robot that wants to be a human, then introducing the correct emotions could elicit the desired result. What I mean is that his emotions at first are melancholy, of the ‘We’re going to die and we have no way to stop it!’, these emotions are then changed to ‘It’s down to me, I need to save everyone, but most importantly the woman I love’.

      Now, again, realising that he’s a robot with emotions, the change in emotions could have spurred him on to figure himself out, as his emotions turn positive, his brain starts working overtime, trying to figure out what part of himself is actually responsible for the bomb and how to deny the signal. The problem was that the daleks created a robot that was actually incredibly intelligent, Doctor intelligent, even. So he found the part of his mechanical self that was responsible and just shut it down.

      “And him just leaving the robot guy in 1940s Britain. Why didn’t he take him to the future somewhere, where he couldn’t fuck up timelines by inventing incredible shit?”

      If we believe–as I do–that this guy is potentially as intelligent as the Doctor, then we can trust him to be responsible. The Doctor can always go back to fix things, after all, but he’s just showing a little trust, because sometimes trust can be everything.

    • toastmonster says:

      Also, I took exception to the fact that it took roughly 3 minutes from conception to reality to invent, construct, and fit the anti-gravity bubbles and laser weaponry to the planes, and then for the pilots to be able to fly the new technologically advanced spitfires into space, somewhere which at that time no human had ever been before unaided.

    • Wulf says:

      “Also, I took exception to the fact that it took roughly 3 minutes from conception to reality to invent, construct, and fit the anti-gravity bubbles and laser weaponry to the planes, and then for the pilots to be able to fly the new technologically advanced spitfires into space, somewhere which at that time no human had ever been before unaided.”

      Two possible explanations!:

      1.) Real time is not the same as reel time. It’s an old telly addage that you might have heard of, it basically means that what you see on the old gogglebox is but a representation of what’s going on. What might have taken a number of hours to do is cut down to a few minutes, because they can’t fit the hours of construction into the episode.

      2.) Nanotechnology. The bloke had dalek technology to wield to his whims, I don’t find it so impossible that he could’ve done something really insane and dangerous in order to build them up so fast.

      Finding explanations to these things rather than just complaining about them is so much mroe fun!

    • AlexW says:

      Only two logic flaws? And minor Who-able ones? Ahem.

      BIPLANES IN SPACE.

      They don’t work because they have gravity under them, you know. That’s actually kind of a problem for rapid movement. They need AIR. Because they have PROPELLERS. Which push AIR around. NOT GRAVITY.

    • Wulf says:

      @AlexW

      Aha, yes! But! You’re assuming that the biplanes provide the actual movement without questioning whether they might not? I posit to you: What if they’re not? The propeller could be just for show, and the controls hooked into some kind of inertial system. Gravity is one of the weakest forces in the Universe, but it’s pretty handy when it comes to inertia. So the technology might simply be to provide a gravity well wherein the biplane is always ‘falling’ in the direction it wants to go, then letting inertia do the rest.

      It’s not a great explanation, but it works for me, since I think it was more that the gravity bubbles were being driven around, not the planes, but planes were used to give the fighter pilots something they were familiar with. Since if they’d bee given an alien set of controls and a bubble they couldn’t see, well, they’d have a lot to learn, so making it work with a biplane is quite ingenious.

    • AlexW says:

      Interesting theory, Wulf. I don’t know if I’m willing to give Gatiss that much credit for his physics knowledge, though. Perhaps because RTD has made me feel quite disappointed in general with most Who writers (by general ignorance umbrella) but Moffat, considering nobody else seems to even try to make an effort at making their episodes a little creepy.

    • Wulf says:

      @AlexW

      I’m thinking that he has access to the dalek primary computer, somehow. The reason I think this is because at the end of the episode he actually says something like “they’re gone now, I know, I can’t hear them any more”, which I believe means he has some sort of link. If that is the case, his knowledge comes from the vast databanks of their ship. Over the course of time I believe he became better and better at accessing and storing those databanks, and thus he’d have the information to create a sort of ‘gravity drive system’. Something that he–in his delightful retrofuture way–decided to call ‘gravity bubbles’.

      That’s how I think he came by the knowledge, this is all theory and supposition of course, but it seems to fit what he said after the daleks disappeared. So if my supposition is right, there’s the means for him to have the necessary physics knowledge to actually create such a thing.

      Furthermore, I know RTD’s scripts were fairly bad, some horribly so (Master goes X-Men, for instance), but you shouldn’t let that jade you, since to be honest I always felt that Moffat was the best writer of Tennant’s/Eccleston’s era, since Blink, Girl in the Fireplace, Silence in the Library, and Empty Child were by far and wide my favourite episodes, and RTD’s were generally the ones I disliked the most. With Moffat writing again, I’m more than happy to try and patch up any little holes I find. Moffat didn’t actually write this one though, but due to how incredibly positive I feel about the show at the moment, I’d rather try and explain problems than just complain about them. What can I say? I believe in the writers this time around and it’s fun!

    • TheTingler says:

      A wizard did it.

    • pagad says:

      I’m sorry guys, you can’t have a discussion about how Spitfires in space are totally wrong if you call them “biplanes”. Spitfires are monoplanes, thank you very much. Biplanes have two sets of wings.

      I realise fully that doesn’t make it any more scientfically correct, but it just bugged me. :p

    • AlexW says:

      Whoops, sorry. I’m sure I knew that before yesterday, but it’s an emotional topic. We’re confusing everything up in here. Gravity, plane denominations, writers…

    • Wulf says:

      @pagad

      Oh, quite right! I’m sorry, I was just following Alex’s lead I think, but that’s no excuse. They are indeed Spitfires and I’m not sure what I was thinking. I was probably tired, but that’s no excuse either. I goofed up, there!

      @AlexW

      Indeed we are. Perhaps I’ll have less to explain with the next episode, since that looks to be a corker. I have enjoyed this though, not that I like debate, I don’t, not fond of it at all, but I’m always for something that taxes my curiosity. I like those “What, how can that be, how?!” questions, they’re engaging and if I ever hope to be a writer some day (probably when I reach about my sixties) then I need to be prepared to do my readers respect by being able to answer such conundrums!

    • Robomutt says:

      Biplanes?

  9. Leelad says:

    I did rather like the new GTi Turbo Daleks they unveiled on Saturday.

    I do hope they come in Pearlesent finishes.

    • Willy359 says:

      Really? I thought they were a bit too Apple iDalek.

    • Wulf says:

      Same could be said for Classic Doctor Who daleks, really… I don’t have a problem with it. *shrugs.* It’s great for the kids.

  10. Ginger Yellow says:

    I saw the trailer after the showing of Who on Saturday – the animation looks seriously wonky. I realise it’s a free game and all, but in that case they’d surely be better off not going 3D.

  11. Alex Bakke says:

    “SAVE THE WORLD FROM YOUR OWN SITTING ROOM”

    Clearly, the game is not suited for the harsh unforgiving PC, and is more suited for the couch :(

    • Wulf says:

      My laptop is most often in the sitting room. >.> Though sometimes it finds its way upstairs, outside, and going along on journeys with me.

      <3 laptops.

    • Alex Bakke says:

      Bah, I was going for a riff on the Alan Wake console-only wankfest.

    • Wulf says:

      I gathered! I was actually tempted to make the same joke about how the living room is also the home of my laptop back in that one Alan Wake thread, but I don’t remember doing so, it was probably all a bit impenetrable.

    • Wulf says:

      Or did I do it? I forget! D:

      Regardless, it was a good joke on your part, I was just trying to run with it. >.>

    • Koozer says:

      Save the world from my own sitting room? I keep telling it to stop threatening humanity, but will it listen? Will it hell.

    • Wulf says:

      Hahaha, nicely done. Good play on words. Hadn’t seen that, myself.

  12. robrob says:

    Looks suspiciously like it has forced stealth sections.

  13. Jockie says:

    The Dalek episode was horrific, from poor performances by supporting characters (worst depiction of Winston Churchill I’ve ever seen..) nonsensical leaps in logic, to an overabundance of sillyness (the whole jammie dodger thing was like something out of the Beano).

    Thought the first episode was good and Matt Smith was like a breath of fresh air, but the cringe factor in the last two episodes has steadily been getting higher.

    • Jockie says:

      Was meant to be a reply Hazelnut

    • Wulf says:

      So it was like an old Doctor Who episode, then?

      I didn’t see any ‘leaps’ that I couldn’t explain though, but I’m the sort of person who’d put his creativity and imagination to actually explaining them, rather than whinging about them. I did the same for Tennant, Star Trek, StarGate… and everything else that’s had plot inconsistencies.

    • The_B says:

      Yeah, really can’t agree on the Jammy Dodger bit, that was pretty much the epitome of what Doctor Who has always been.

    • NieA7 says:

      I really enjoyed the first two episodes, but this last one was a bit meh. I think it’s main problem was cramming way too much stuff into 45 minutes so that none of it really came over very well (it also needed more Spitfires in space, when I saw the full season trailer I was hoping that was an episode in and of itself). It may have made sense but it wasn’t involving for me, I didn’t really care about any of the characters. Plus the Daleks are getting a bit tired, I’d rather have something new (or something from the old series we’ve not seen again).

      As for the game, adventure games and I have never really connected and the animation looks really shonky. Far too early to say if they’ll be good or not yet as there are loads of things they could do well that’d more than make up for that, but as of now I’m keeping my expectations low.

    • Wulf says:

      “(it also needed more Spitfires in space, when I saw the full season trailer I was hoping that was an episode in and of itself)”

      So what you’re saying is that you don’t want Doctor Who? You can watch StarGate for that, you know? I know that action can be fun, but action has always been the side-show to the main plot in Doctor Who, it should never be the main attraction, not ever. At least, not in my opinion.

      What I saw was some fairly typical Doctor Who fun.

      “It may have made sense but it wasn’t involving for me, I didn’t really care about any of the characters. Plus the Daleks are getting a bit tired, I’d rather have something new (or something from the old series we’ve not seen again).”

      I did, I thought it was a pretty clever episode, and rather funny too. Also, this was particularly inventive and it showed that the daleks could be scheming, they’re supposed to be geniuses, but RTD’s episode never showed us anything that really backed that up, they had force in numbers/power, but they weren’t exactly smart. These daleks were two, all it took was two of them, because they were clever. That’s why the show was involving for me.

      The rest is just personal opinion which I disagree with, all opinions being valid and equal, I don’t need to say anything more than that.

    • NieA7 says:

      Never really watched Stargate, doesn’t appeal from what I know of it. From the series trailer my mind had put together the Spitfires and spaceship Britain seen in episode 2, so I was assuming there’d be some kind of happened before, happen again WWII story. The new series has done mixed up times very well on several occasions (mostly written by Moffat too), that’s what I was hoping to get. As for the episode, those two Daleks were clever but they were dead within 15 minutes – kind of sums the whole thing up really, they were there and gone far too fast.

      I finished re-watching the Dalek Invasion of Earth last week – our new Mighty Morphin Power Daleks do not look more like the old ones than RTDs Daleks to my eyes, too chunky round the back and too boxy at the front. They’re not bad, but they’re not a return to the original design.

    • Wulf says:

      “I finished re-watching the Dalek Invasion of Earth last week – our new Mighty Morphin Power Daleks do not look more like the old ones than RTDs Daleks to my eyes, too chunky round the back and too boxy at the front. They’re not bad, but they’re not a return to the original design.”

      How can you say that?!

      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0e/Dalek_Invasion_of_Earth.jpg

      Look… large, striped middle section, oblong fore section… how do you not see it?!

    • NieA7 says:

      The oblong protrudes less and is a similar colour to the body so it’s not so obvious, and the new Daleks have, for want of a better expression, a very pronounced backside that’s missing from the older ones. They’re generally bigger all round, which makes them feel quite different from the old design. Previously they looked kinda small and silly but were threatening due to the way they acted. Now they look threatening too – more visual punch, less creepiness when their power is demonstrated.

    • Wulf says:

      Maybe, I have no problem with any of that. My only point was that they were based on the original design, not that they were identical to. I never meant for it to look like that.

      Though I will say from comparing pictures that the daleks do seem to have shrunk over the years, with the ones from RTD’s era actually looking quite a bit smaller than the first ones, but that might just be my imagination at work.

  14. Wulf says:

    I’m quite looking forward to this, as I’ve been really loving the new series thus far and a Telltale-like adventure game seems to be just my cup of tea, really. So I’d very much like to play those, and I’m curious as to whether what’s happening is further related to the time cracks. The current arc fascinates me.

    The only part I’m a bit worried about is the potential stealthy bits, which do worry me, not because I think stealthy bits are bad (Beyond Good & Evil had them), but rather because I suck at them. So much.

    • The_B says:

      I would have preferred they’d left the stealth to the Weeping Angels (obviously no idea if the Angels are even going to be in the games yet) as they seem like enemies far more suited for that mechanic. Although obviously it’d be a sort of reverse stealth, which I think could be a nice touch in that you’d have to keep looking at them, rather than the other way around.

    • Wulf says:

      That would be awesome, and yeah… the only thing I’m really worried about is the stealth, and in regards to that we’ll have to wait and see, I suppose!

  15. Wulf says:

    Also, regarding the colour coded daleks, I actually understand that. What Moffat understands is that this is a show for kids, it can be enjoyed by adults and manchildren, but it’s primarily something that the little ones can enjoy. My cousin’s little boy thinks the dalek designs are amazing, he loves them, and finds them a little bit scary, also, the colour coding helps with memorising the purpose and character of each dalek.

    It’s not Star Trek, after all. It’s a family show. I actually really like what they’re doing with the daleks because they’re trying to remember that it is a kid’s show, and making it accessible to the whole family again, including the kids.

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      Vandelay says:

      Completely agree. I think people often forget what the target audience for Doctor Who is. If you want some real grown up sci-fi in the Who verse, go watch Torchwood: Children of Earth. Doctor Who isn’t the place for that kind of thing.

    • Will Tomas says:

      I agree that Dr Who is a show primarily for kids but there’s a difference between that and being overtly ‘Children’s Television’. Basically, compared to the great gold design for the Daleks when they brought them back, the chunky primary coloured ones look less impressive.

    • Wulf says:

      @Vandelay

      Totally agree.

      @Will

      “I agree that Dr Who is a show primarily for kids but there’s a difference between that and being overtly ‘Children’s Television’.”

      Where each person draws the line in regards to this is going to be down to personal opinion and preference, isn’t it? Therefore I find that a bit irrelevant, all I can say to that is that I find the balance right and you don’t. What else can be said?

      I think that the plot was clever and interesting enough to engage both children and adults, thus involving them all as a family, that’s my opinion. I can’t offer anything more.

      “Basically, compared to the great gold design for the Daleks when they brought them back, the chunky primary coloured ones look less impressive.”

      Less impressive to you as an adult, yes. But the older daleks looked like this, go back and watch some classic Who and you’ll see what I mean. I always felt that this newer series wasn’t accessible to kids at all, sometimes it just came over as confusing to them. It was “Doctor Who for Manchildren, by RTD”. It was far too serious and dark. I didn’t get a Who vibe from it whenever RTD was writing it. Now I get the vibe of “Doctor Who for families, by Moffat”. That’s exactly what I want. But this is all personal perception, you know? You might see it as the reverse, and I wouldn’t know what to say to that.

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    Vandelay says:

    I’ve been really enjoying this series so far. The first episode is clearly the best, but the other two have been enjoyable too. They did have a few problems though. Last weeks suffered from the Smilers being completely pointless by the end of the episode and really shouldn’t have been present in the first place. With this weeks it really could have been a longer episode, although a two parter probably would have been pushing it.

    The plots of both episode were both fairly straightforward and I’m not really understanding where peoples’ confusion is coming from (and this isn’t the only place where I have seen it mentioned.) Making the robot not explode by making him feel something did come out of nowhere and felt as if there should have been some earlier scene that would explain why the Doctor and Amy decided to try that solution, but I didn’t think it was completely nonsensical.

    And the Jammie Dodger thing was funny.

    Looking forward to these games. They have strong team behind and if they are putting in as much effort as they do for their other projects I can only see this being at least good.

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      James G says:

      Ah! I think I might have just worked out where the whole “convince the robot bomb thing he’s human to stop himself blowing up” might have come from… well other than the slight schmaltziness which often infects Doctor Who anyway.

      I noticed the nod to Asmiov with the mention of the positironic brain, and the whole human robot theme was one he explored a few times. I’m wondering if the nod originally went deeper, with a three laws rule in effect. Thus by enforcing the robots humanity, you’d make any self destruction violate the first law, rather than the third, thus overriding the second.

      Then someone realised that the Daleks probably wouldn’t design a robot to be three laws compliant, and furthermore, the explosive powercore could be detonated independently of the positronic brain anway. So the little bits of explanation are removed, but no one bothers to come up with a decent alternative means of defusing him. So instead we end up with the slightly ridiculous ‘power of love’ answer. (Which also appears to be a theme in last weeks episode. Don’t think it made an appearance in the first though, so hopefully it won’t become too overarching a theme.)

    • Wulf says:

      @Vandelay

      Agreed, I wish they’d done a bit more with the Smilers.

      I did love the Starwhale though, that made me smile from ear to ear. I’m the sort of romantic who’s smitten with the thought of life in space, I loved Treasure Planet for its aether whales, I loved that episode of The Next Generation that had similar creatures, and I wish that this was more often the case, where space was shown as an environment that could be habitable, not by humans but by other forms of life entirely.

      @James

      I covered the bomb thing above, I actually believe that the daleks made him too smart, and in the end he was smart enough to defuse himself. All he really needed was that little push to want to figure out how to defuse himself, which is what the Doctor an Amy gave him.

  17. FP says:

    @Jockie

    It’s more like something straight out of DW, e.g.:

    • Wulf says:

      Exactly! Hahaha, yes! That’s actually what I was thinking of when I said that it was just like Doctor Who, because that’s pretty much just the sort of thing Tom Baker would do. If Tom Baker was there, he would have done just that!

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    skalpadda says:

    Will this be available to people outside the UK?

    • greenB says:

      skalpadda: Good question, the BBC is often a bit uptight about other countries getting the lovely license-payer content. I do, however, hope that they realize that gaming Doctor Who fans (or nerds^2) certainly know how to spread digital computering files over this interwebs thing.
      (I’m not saying piracy is okay, or that looking after license payers is a bad thing, just that this thing WILL be pirated.)

    • Wulf says:

      BBC America might end up selling them for a tiny price.

  19. Ffitz says:

    Frankly, “WOULD YOU CARE FOR SOME TEA?” made the entire episode (if not the series) worthwhile, and I’m still laughing about that now.

    • matte_k says:

      Seconded. It’s currently doing the rounds at my workplace when tea break arrives.

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    Lambchops says:

    I’m cautiously optimistic about the games, even if the trailers are pretty uninspiring.

    I don’t think they’ll be up to Telltale standards of quality but for the price of essentially free I’ll be quite happy with a mildly diverting few hours of Dr Who goodness.

  21. Dan Forinton says:

    Okay, this is a bit metatextual, but did anyone else think this was Steven Moffat & crew saying that Russell Davies made the Daleks small?

    Old daleks – painted in drab green, towered over by all and sundry, reduced to comedy relief serving tea.
    New daleks – big (and I mean HUGE) ugly beasties in bright primary colours, here to be menacing and scary.
    The sequence where the new daleks blew away the old daleks said it all, really.

    As for the game, I’m reserving judgement until I’ve tried the first one, but they’ve got me to at least TRY the first one, which wasn’t guaranteed.

    • Wulf says:

      Hahaha, oh Gods… hadn’t thought of it from that angle.

      Well done, well done.

      But yes, that could very well be the case, and truth be told I do prefer the new daleks, mostly because the kids I know seemed to be bored by the old ones, but they love these new ones.

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      Vandelay says:

      Not sure whether they are actually belittling the way RTD used the Daleks, but definitely they are saying “You’ve not seen the real Daleks yet” with the creation of the “Master” race. The story fits fantastically with the WWII setting, with the obvious connections between the new Daleks and the way the Nazis treated “inferior” people.

  22. Lilliput King says:

    WITNESS

    THE FITNESS

    Um. Read the PCGamer UK preview bit earlier today, and It didn’t sound like they had enough ‘game’ for it to work. They (or was it Kieron) talked about the gameplay as not an adventure game in the sense we know it (combine items to create krazy klaptraptions of wackness) but as in an ‘actual adventure.’ Not sure what that’s supposed to mean. The only other thing said about the gameplay was that it would indeed feature stealth sections.

    Quite a lot, presumably, because those two aspects were the only gameplay features mentioned, and it can hardly feature combat, so it appears it’ll be comprised of ‘not-adventure-game’ adventure sections and stealth sections.

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      Vandelay says:

      Not read the preview and only heard what has been posted on here about it, but that does sound less enticing than my original visions. Sounds as if it is straying close to a Dreamfall style, which, although a fantastic story and experience, wasn’t a great “game”. They are obviously going to have to go for some compromises on difficulty, as this is likely to draw a wide range of people from a young age group and people that may not be much into their games, but I hope that it doesn’t just end up being an interactive story.

      Doctor Who offers some interesting ways to use the adventure game style, which I hope they explore.

    • Kieron Gillen says:

      Vandelay: Dreamfall was top of their list of things to reference when describing the game.

      KG

  23. Delusibeta says:

    The graphics and antimations seems to be disappointingly sub-Telltale (as in Sam & Max Season 1 & “), which should be the standard for that type of game, in my opinion. Still, you can’t go too wrong with free.

    • Delusibeta says:

      Ahem, held the shift key too long. It’s supposed to read Season 1 & 2.

  24. Dean says:

    Do remember that while the ‘power of love’ defusing thing was a bit silly, RTD would have just have him point the sonic screwdriver at him for five seconds.

  25. Serenegoose says:

    I thought saturdays Doctor Who was fantastic. The new series to me is such a return to form. The new head Dalek voice I thought was great, too. From a purely Dalek perspective I don’t understand why they’d be multicoloured. Daleks, as you’ll recall, have no concept of elegance, so why they’d be painted at all is a bit baffling. And yeah, it seemed pretty obvious to me that the scientist was simply on the fly reprogramming himself through available human emotions. The only problem I had with the entire episode was the lingering on the UK flag, but that’s just because nationalism makes my skin crawl.

    • Wulf says:

      I’m not sure why they’re colour coded either, I’m going to think on it for a while and see if I can’t come up with an explanation, but I think it’s going to take some digging into dalek lore to find something. I’m sure I’ll find something eventually that could be used as an explanation, because I do remember coloured daleks (red, black, white, and so on) in a number of earlier seasons, I think it was to designate faction or somesuch.

      But in the case of it being a show that’s accessible to kids, as I said, I think it’s a fair concession to allow because it allows children to connect more easily with individual daleks, rather than them simply being a very facelesss foe, which in RTD’s era they were (the Cult of Skaro being the exception).

    • Grunt says:

      I hated that too, Serengoose. It’s bad enough that the American’s do it every chance they get so our little country really shouldn’t be following in those hallowed footsteps.

    • Dan says:

      @Wulf
      I think the Sylvester McCoy era Daleks (in the episodes with Mr Bronson RIP) were indeed coloured to designate a faction.

    • Wulf says:

      @Dan

      Ah, yes! That was it, thank you. This leads me to wonder if each dalek is going to get their own empire, of which the Supreme rules over all. It would certainly be interesting if they did things that way.

  26. Saul says:

    The daleks have crossbred with teletubbies, Now that’s creepy.

    I’m with others– loved the first ep; liked the second, bar a few plot problems; thought the third had its moments, but overall didn’t hold together very well. At least the new DW has remained consistent in its inconsistency!