By Jim Rossignol on May 21st, 2010 at 2:20 pm.
Lionhead have confirmed on their website that Fable 3 is indeed destined for PC. Which is interesting, given previous form (there’s no Fable 2 on our beloved box). Lionhead say: ” The Windows version will retail for $49.99/£39.99/€54.99, and will also be available for download exclusively on Games on Demand on Games for Windows – LIVE.” More details about the special edition through the link. I’ve rounded up some of the more watchable videos for the game and posted ‘em below.
21/05/2010 at 14:23 kedaha says:
£40 = €46. Fuckers :(
21/05/2010 at 16:08 ZIGS says:
What about 55€ for Europe?
22/05/2010 at 14:26 Carra says:
So us Europeans pay €15 more than the Americans and about €9 more than our UK fellas.
Shoo them.
21/05/2010 at 14:26 Gutter says:
What? No Steam?
I’m getting my popcorns out, laughing at the irony of so many people wondering why publishers do not want to do anything with PCs, and when they do, for not using their digital distributor of choice.
21/05/2010 at 17:06 Bhazor says:
Steam really is the iTunes of pc game platforms. Built purely as a means of copy protection it ended up exploding into the most popular digital download shop. But it has still kept its original purpose.
I don’t think GFWL is better than Steam but this is purely because Steam has more games at the moment. But I also do not want Steam to have a monopoly. My time with GFWL shows it to be less resource heavy, much faster at loading games (because Live loads alongside the game rather than Steam’s load steam>choose game> Steam loads access to game>game loads), it has an offline mode that works and I’ve had no equivelent to the “Cannot access steam servers, please try later” which I see every third time I try to turn Steam on.
It’s no perfect, but it’s competition from a major company and thats enough for me.
21/05/2010 at 18:30 TheApplePie says:
@Bhazor
“I don’t think GFWL is better than Steam but this is purely because Steam has more games at the moment.”
Well, do you actually know that GFWL is supported only in 26 countries. That if you register a product you paid a full price for with an account from an unsupported country, you will have no acces to it’s multiplayer features. That, in case of certain types of GFWL product keys, you will lose those features permanently.
I don’t think GFWL is better than Steam but the amount of games it has certainly wont change this.
21/05/2010 at 14:26 Dubious says:
$50 = €40. Fuckers :(
21/05/2010 at 14:33 Nikolaj says:
That’s what I was thinking. Disgusting.
21/05/2010 at 19:18 Alexander Norris says:
New PC games cost £43 in Europe. There are no sales in most places, so you can’t buy them from Amazon to get them half-price, either. VAT doesn’t explain the surcharge since both the UK and most European countries have a similar VAT (at about 20%) and yet the UK mysteriously gets away with paying US prices.
So yeah, unless you live in a country where the minimum price for a new game is ~£45, there are no sales, and games stay at the £45 price point for 12-24 months, you don’t have much to complain about.
21/05/2010 at 20:55 TeeJay says:
“…the UK mysteriously gets away with paying US prices…”
UK pricing has to take into account the Channel Islands, where Play.com, Sendit.com, Amazon.co.uk, HMV and so on base large mail-order warehouses. The ‘no VAT’ only applies to items of £18 or less, but this does have knock-on downward-pressure effect on all video-game pricing aimed at UK consumers IMO.
22/05/2010 at 08:26 Paul says:
I just ordered Alpha Procotol for 23 euros incl. shipping from zavvi. I LOVE UK shops and hope stupid governments will keep it this way.
22/05/2010 at 09:52 Gutfried says:
It’s also worth remembering that the UK version is the same as the US version, whilst modern games require full translation and hundreds or thousands of hours of additional voice acting for European releases with relatively few sales to spread the cost over. So games will be more expensive in Europe regardless of the exchange rate, since those hours to make the Italian or French copies won’t have a similar level of sales to spread their development costs over. You can argue that there should be global solidarity or something, but I can’t see it happening.
22/05/2010 at 15:07 Carra says:
Translations. Bah, why would I need to pay for the game to be translated in French? The last time Black & White was translated to my native tongue, Dutch the outrage was so big that they were forced to create an English language patch. Noone has bothered since to translate non kiddie games to Dutch.
Translations, pfff.
24/05/2010 at 18:42 TeeJay says:
“…It’s also worth remembering that the UK version is the same as the US version…”
This isn’t *always* true: leaving aside the language, there are sometimes other differences between European / International versions and US / North American versions, for example nudity in The Witcher, or box art etc (eg Settlers games).
I came across this recently when I had to patch Evil Genius making sure I used the ‘european’ version of the patch. The fact that I was playing in Engiish didn’t mean my game was the same as the North American version for some wierd / wonderful / technical reasons I still don’t fully understand. This was further confused by there being internet confusion about whether the Steam version was US or Euro (and it’s compatibility with various patchs and mods).
21/05/2010 at 14:29 Diogo Ribeiro says:
Expensive lies.
21/05/2010 at 14:29 AbyssUK says:
Games for windows – LIVE = no sale. Fuck them!
21/05/2010 at 14:30 Diogo Ribeiro says:
It’s not exclusive to GFWL. It’s also on retail.
21/05/2010 at 15:01 Optimaximal says:
No, it’s exclusive to GFW:Live’s Games on Demand service. Reading the article linked in the post is always a good idea.
21/05/2010 at 15:02 Optimaximal says:
Ok, now I read that, I feel foolish :)
Damn them and their roundabout wording!
21/05/2010 at 17:45 Collic says:
GFWL :( damn
21/05/2010 at 18:25 Nessin says:
Retail AND exclusive for download… meaning it will be in the stores if you want a hardcopy, or you can download it from GFWL, but if you choose the download option, you have to get it from GFWL.
21/05/2010 at 14:30 LewieP says:
I would wager that the retail version will be available for significantly less than that not long after release.
21/05/2010 at 14:33 Rich says:
It’s a good bet. Digital distributors always seem to sell far closer to the RRP than retailers, at the time of release.
21/05/2010 at 14:43 Jimbo says:
I’ll wager that *on* release. Cool Shop (my online retailer of choice) will probably have it for about £25, like they usually do.
If a PC game isn’t available somewhere for less than £30 then I just don’t buy it. RRP is usually bullshit.
21/05/2010 at 14:32 Mario Figueiredo says:
So, an European (British) developer studio makes a game published by an American company. And this is the price they expect you to pay:
in USA: $49.99 = £34.77 = €39.83
in GB: £39.99 = $57.47 = €45.81
in EU: €54.99 = $68.97 = £48.02
Excuse me, but they can go fuck themselves.
21/05/2010 at 14:35 mrmud says:
This is astoundingly retarded
21/05/2010 at 15:03 rocketman71 says:
@mrmud: That’s because Microsoft is retarded. And absurd. Why give us 3 now?. Why not GoW3 as well?. Are they going to make the second of each trilogy console-only?.
21/05/2010 at 16:19 Chaz says:
Presumably those are just the RRP prices though, which means the actual retail price will probably be £10-£15 less.
21/05/2010 at 16:28 perilisk says:
Maybe it’s retaliation for the amount of crap they get from EU bureaucrats on a regular basis.
21/05/2010 at 18:56 Bhazor says:
Steam does the same discrepancies but they’ve done it for so long no one brings it up.
21/05/2010 at 19:38 drewski says:
Honestly, the whining from EU and UK buyers – try being from Australia.
A new retail game is at least A$89.95 which translates to US$75, €60 or £51.
21/05/2010 at 19:47 Alexander Norris says:
drewski: congratulations, that’s more or less the same price EU buyers pay. 50-55€ for a new PC game and 60-70€ for a new console game.
Australians are hardly special. If anything, we share similar plights.
21/05/2010 at 20:36 drewski says:
There is no way €50 is “more or less” the same as €60.
New console games can go for as much as €80 here.
21/05/2010 at 21:19 TeeJay says:
However in reality for the UK:
new releases/pre-orders:
RRP: £39.99 >>> £26.99 w/ Free Delivery (eg play.com)
RRP: £34.99 >>> £24.99
RRP: £29.99 >>> £17.99
after a few months:
£14.99 (eg ARMA2, Bioshock2, Dragon Age)
…and lower
(prices from play.com)
21/05/2010 at 21:45 drewski says:
And that’s the other thing about retail in Australia – online is usually only marginally cheaper, you often have to pay for postage on top and there’s a much, much slower discount curve on new releases.
Thanks to PC games not being region locked it is, fortunately, usually possible to import legal copies from the EU or Asia at substantially lower prices.
21/05/2010 at 21:47 Zogtee says:
“Steam does the same discrepancies but they’ve done it for so long no one brings it up.”
That’s probably because Steam (ie Valve) doesn’t actually set the prices.
Anyway, GFWL is an annoying piece of crap and I’m unlikely yo buy this, if it isn’t on Steam or possibly Impulse, but that’s stretching it.
23/05/2010 at 23:52 RedFred says:
@Drewski: I feel that, man. I’m from NZ and the situation is just as bad, if not, worse.
21/05/2010 at 14:32 kyrieee says:
Eh, why 55€? Are they only letting mentally deficient people handle Windows releases?
25/09/2010 at 01:53 poker good game says:
Yeah a bit expensive ! Nice game and movies thanks !
21/05/2010 at 14:36 Schizoslayer says:
And they wonder why Day one piracy happens on PC when they try to charge numbers like that. Knock at least a tenner off that and I’ll start to consider it. Knock £20 off and It’s a day 1 purchase.
21/05/2010 at 14:39 Mario Figueiredo says:
There’s another way. Not even pirate them.
And if you want to really stick to your guns, do like me. To make a point I didn’t even cared to run the videos on this article.
21/05/2010 at 18:24 Bhazor says:
Yep lets half the price, that will raise the profits.
21/05/2010 at 18:33 Dextro says:
Valve begs to differ on that statement Bhazor: http://www.edge-online.com/features/valve-are-games-too-expensive
21/05/2010 at 18:37 Shalrath says:
Actually, it will. It’s been proven time and again.
The only time it isn’t true is when you’re releasing Halo/Modern Warfare/whatever huge game. Unless you’re the “AAA” title – removing even 10 dollars can triple sales.
So… yes, it does, actually.
21/05/2010 at 18:50 Bhazor says:
No that article just shows the effect of putting a game on *sales* not the effect of starting price. The fact the survey was done in two weeks over the Christmas holidays seems a wee bit… short sighted. Still its not like games are known to sell more at Christmas.
21/05/2010 at 14:36 Rich says:
Also, any chance of a retroactive release of Fable II on PC?
21/05/2010 at 16:59 Andy says:
this
21/05/2010 at 14:37 Robin says:
I remember when an announcement of a new Bullfrog/Lionhead PC game would be something to get excited about. Shame that everything post Dungeon Keeper has made it more and more obvious that they’re never going to get their spark back.
I still hope that one day they’ll get out of this dysfunctional cycle of making games that don’t play to their strengths in a vain attempt to please a publisher that doesn’t know what they want, instead of what they’re good at and famous for i.e. PC action/strategy games.
21/05/2010 at 14:43 Subject 706 says:
What he said.
21/05/2010 at 17:20 Grunt says:
A thousand times what he said.
21/05/2010 at 17:26 Bhazor says:
Why doesn’t anyone remember The Movies?
21/05/2010 at 17:38 Mr_Day says:
Therapy.
21/05/2010 at 14:39 Goomich says:
There is no GFWL in Poland. Fuckers.
21/05/2010 at 14:45 Heliocentric says:
Only for download on gfwl? Given i don’t buy disc games anymore unless once activated i can throw the disk and box away (or in storage) and i’ll never use the shit that is gfwl as a store i wont be buying this. How unfortunate.
21/05/2010 at 14:47 Sagan says:
The US price is probably without tax. Adding that should lessen the unfairness a little.
21/05/2010 at 14:50 Mario Figueiredo says:
I very much doubt prices in Euros are with tax either. Because VAT varies from country to country.
21/05/2010 at 16:05 Sagan says:
@ Mario Figueiredo:
No the EU prices are with tax included. If it says 55€ then you are going to pay 55€ for it.
21/05/2010 at 16:08 RQH says:
@Sagan: Also tax on $50 (at the highest state rate of 8.25%) makes it ~$54.00, which is still lower than $58/$68. In states with no sales tax, it’s $49.99. I’m not up on how VAT works exactly, but I seem to recall the VAT rates generally being higher than 8.25%, and yeah, probably not included in those prices.
21/05/2010 at 16:10 RQH says:
@Sagan: Sorry, didn’t see your reply. If it’s included, then yeah, it’s a little closer to the price in pounds if you live in, say, California, but still nothing compared to the Euro price.
21/05/2010 at 17:13 Mario Figueiredo says:
@Sagan,
Again, I suspect no. VATS in europe range from 17% to 22%.
I’ve seen games up to 60 Euros around here. And you can’t name many games that have been announced to cost 60 Euros.
Besides European laws require prices with VAT included to mention VAT was included. It’s illegal to name a price + VAT without making this explicit. It’s the same as with USA sales tax.
21/05/2010 at 19:12 Rikard Peterson says:
@ Mario,
…varies to 25% (here in Sweden). And while I don’t know what the international rules are, I do know that this statement “It’s illegal to name a price + VAT without making this explicit. It’s the same as with USA sales tax.” is completely backwards as far as Sweden is concerned. You only ever see prices excluding VAT here when it’s something aimed at companies, and that’s when they’re required to state that the price is excluding VAT.
21/05/2010 at 19:25 James G says:
I don’t know about the rest of Europe, but the UK price will include VAT at 17.5%.
Counter to what Mario implies for other European countries, in the UK, prices quoted must include VAT unless otherwise stated and I believe in these cases the VAT price must be published as well. The only cases in which you see the most prominently published price lacking VAT is in situations in which a company’s sales are substantially to business customers.
21/05/2010 at 20:03 Mario Figueiredo says:
It’s possible that you guys are right and I’m wrong. I’m a bit confused now. It’s not that UK or Sweden count as good arguments because they don’t use the Euro and these rules apply, I think, to the Euro. But I distinctly remember seeing today a price without VAT and with that statement below it.
I should probably pay more attention to these things. But you definitely shook my confidence.
22/05/2010 at 00:04 RC-1290'Dreadnought' says:
@Sagan,
To me, it does not really matter if it is fair or not, I’m not going to pay €55,- for it.
21/05/2010 at 14:49 Jimbo says:
Somebody, Jim, anybody…. please ask them to explain what the deal is with regards Natal.
21/05/2010 at 17:12 Ricc says:
Wasn’t Natal also supposed to be released for the PC at some point? I believe hearing something about MS Office in regards to Natal…
21/05/2010 at 17:45 Mr_Day says:
@Jimbo
It is easy to figure out once you realise:
Prenatal is before childbirth. Postnatal is after childbirth.
22/05/2010 at 00:08 RC-1290'Dreadnought' says:
@MR_Day,
Are you suggesting the project was born two months ago? Maybe it was a miscarriage?
22/05/2010 at 00:18 RC-1290Dreadnought says:
@MR_Day, Or actually, I read that it is scheduled for delivery in October. What kind of creature is that!?
21/05/2010 at 14:51 Schizoslayer says:
Well at least in the UK Amazon should save us. They are already taking pre-orders for Fable 3 on Xbox at £37.91 and the RRP on that is £49.99.
Hopefully the PC version will actually retail here for ~ 25-28 at launch.
21/05/2010 at 17:50 Mr_Day says:
Except the article says there won’t be a retail version.
EDIT – my mistake, no it doesn’t. D’oh.
Though I am glad I held out on getting Blood Bowl. Wasn’t it 49.99 at launch? When you are used to paying between 18 to 30 quid for a game, the idea of digital distribution is looking shit. Surely it costs less to make a non existent packet than it is to make a real one and then pay a bunch of people to move it around.
Are server costs a lot higher than they used to be?
21/05/2010 at 14:52 Adamos says:
Let me guess they will complain about low sales on pc and they will say they will not make another pc game and blame piracy
You know what F**** you
It was bad enough when $50=50euros and now you expect us to pay 55euros which is about $70 for a game that will probably end up been a direct port from 360?
Again F**** you and i hope you never port a game on pc again
21/05/2010 at 15:01 pkt-zer0 says:
55€. Downloadable version exclusive to GFWL. I wonder if they’re going with the limited activation variant of GFWL, too, just to make sure the PC versions sells as little as possible.
22/05/2010 at 21:17 Robin says:
It’s like they learned nothing from the Halo2 and Shadowrun fiascos.
As for John Cleese, I already have one game with his voice talent (Starship Titanic) and the chances of Lionhead’s writers (“farts are hilarious! *snort*”) delivering anything remotely as good are slim.
21/05/2010 at 15:01 Ravenger says:
I don’t pre-order games these days due to DRM, so I’ll be waiting for some PC reviews and user views before I think about buying it. If I do decide to buy it I won’t pay over £25, so I’ll be looking online for some discounts, or wait a few weeks until it’s on sale.
I can understand why it’s not available on Steam, because it’s in Microsoft’s interest to push their Games On Demand service, but at that price they’re having a laugh, and I don’t expect they’ll get many sales via that route.
21/05/2010 at 15:08 sebmojo says:
I… um.. quite liked Fable 2 so it will be nice to play it on PC? Yes? Am I doing it right?
21/05/2010 at 17:40 Corporate Dog says:
No. You must bitch about the price more.
I, for instance, feel that the MSRP of Fable 3 in my native Jorkoslovakia is COMPLETELY insane!
We still work on the barter system, and they expect us to pay them three chickens and a cow?
21/05/2010 at 18:00 Alastayr says:
@Corporate Dog
I see what you did there. To be honest, bitching about the price difference just shows how ignorant most “global” people are. Why not bitch about coke costing twice as much in Europe; bread being way more expensive in the US or UK (and I mean *real* bread); quality meat being unaffordable in some EU countries; DVDs/CDs costing twice as much in most of Europe etc…
As long as we have borders, there will be economic differences. It’s not pretty and thankfully there’s ways around that, but the sooner most people wrap their head around this the better.
21/05/2010 at 19:12 Bhazor says:
DO NOT BUY THE FAUX BREAD! IT TELLS LIES!
21/05/2010 at 21:56 TeeJay says:
@ Alastayr:
If there is a *decent* reason for price differences (eg taxation, distribution costs, localisation costs) then people are often happier. What people don’t like is when a completely identical product with virtually zero distribution costs (eg digitial download) are priced far higher in some markets with no decent explanation.
PC Pro magasine (who are not naive idiots by any means) have covered this issue in relation to business software and some other consumer products:
Rip-off Britain: excuses exposed – Tech firms keep asking us to pay more than our American counterparts for the same products. But do their excuses have any merit? Stewart Mitchell asks the experts: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/119660/rip-off-britain-excuses-exposed#ixzz0obEzXpMj
21/05/2010 at 15:08 Aemony says:
Instant buy!
But I miss Steam…
21/05/2010 at 15:11 UsF says:
Yea. Black and White 2 didn’t get any multiplayer as discussed on the forums, so you can keep your stuff Lionhead. Enjoy your overpriced games on console and leave us PC gamers alone already.
Ah well, Black and White 1, what a marble. They had to dumb it down so bad.
21/05/2010 at 15:18 Psychopomp says:
What Molyneux has had to say about it hasn’t exactly excited me. He’s openly admitted that they’ve dumbed down 3. Apparently, Fable was complex in the first place
21/05/2010 at 17:59 Jimbo says:
I can’t even imagine how that’s possible. Is it just one long cutscene?
21/05/2010 at 20:10 Nick says:
Its just a stick man that farts when you press any key.
21/05/2010 at 15:23 Nimic says:
That price (and price difference) is insulting. There’s not a chance in hell I’ll buy this.
21/05/2010 at 15:31 Shadow Aspect says:
I can’t see Natal being required, mainly because I can’t see all current 360 owners buying Natal just for Fable 3.
21/05/2010 at 15:32 Bassism says:
This still makes no sense to me.
Normally I’d be happy to see more games releasing on PC, but for all the reasons everybody mentioned above I can only see this doing poorly and hence becoming a scapegoat for further ignoring of PC.
I feel like Microsoft got the feeling that their GFW initiative is doing horribly, so went to Lionhead, said “You guys are good at PC, right? How bout you port Fable III to PC, since PC gamers still have fond memories of Fable, and everybody will love us!”
Of course, nobody seems to understand quite what the reasons behind poor performance in the PC market are.
Anyway, I’ll still maintain some hope that it could be reasonably entertaining. And I’ve learned not to look at any pre-release info for anything with Molyneux’s name on it.
Fable has always been a light diversion to me though. And if this game is going to be even further simplified than the last installments, there is no way it will be deep and engaging enough to make me want to pay full price for it. Maybe after two months or so of no sales when they drop it to 15 bucks…
21/05/2010 at 15:41 wedge says:
if it’s out on steam and on sale for like $30 I’ll buy it. Ridiculous..
21/05/2010 at 15:47 Tei says:
Natal is vaporware. Prove me wrong.
21/05/2010 at 16:05 Man Raised By Puffins says:
It may turn out to work as well as pair of foetid Dingo’s kidneys outside of controlled conditions, but it does actually exist. If it didn’t, I suspect Microsoft would look more than a little silly at its lavish unveiling ceremony at E3 next month.
21/05/2010 at 15:56 Heliosicle says:
Molyneux has never made good on any of the promises he gives about his games, plus the pricing on this sucks. Maybe when its £15 on Amazon.
21/05/2010 at 16:29 Bhazor says:
Oh diddums.
21/05/2010 at 17:25 Wulf says:
What I get from the videos:
Fable – Perfect World Edition*, possibly worth it for John Cleese.
* A lot of the elements described, such as wings, and emotes with partners, strike me as directly lifted from Perfect World, which is rather hilarious.
It looks quite interesting, though.
Glad they kept the dog.
21/05/2010 at 17:34 Tei says:
” The Windows version will retail for $49.99/£39.99/€54.99, and will also be available for download exclusively on Games on Demand on Games for Windows – LIVE.”
/facepalm
/doublefacepalm
Heres a company is driven by people that don’t understand the gaming world, much less the PC world
21/05/2010 at 17:58 subedii says:
Not to be needlessly antagonistic…
… Well, maybe a litlle, anyway…
Is this series any actual good? I mean I haven’t really been too impressed with Molyneux’s stuff since Bullfrog closed shop.
Then again, maybe I’m just bitter that nobody’s given us a proper sequel to Syndicate yet.
21/05/2010 at 18:49 Wulf says:
I liked Fable, quite a lot. I liked Fable II less, but it had a dog, so that’s a plus point.
There are perhaps three words I would use to describe Fable II: Average, Moralistic, and Short.
It is fun though, despite all that, but definitely better bought at a bargain price.
21/05/2010 at 17:58 Taverius says:
… yyyyyeeeaaaaahhhh …
Actually, no.
It is against my religion to financially support the extraction of urine.
21/05/2010 at 18:05 Hmm says:
That’s awesome news, but where’s Fable 2 and if MS SO LOVES us now, Gears 3 please? :) Oh wait, Epic hates PC gaming, so there’s no chance.
Anyway, I wonder what made MS remember that PC exists.
By the way, people here who are so surprised that FIII will be a GfWL title and exclusive to GfWL GoD are making me laugh. Wasn’t that always obvious? That’s like bitching Valve games will be using Steamworks and remain Steam exclusive.
As for the price – meh, some retailers will offer the game cheaper from the beginning, so I doubt anyone here will be forced to pay more than he desires.
21/05/2010 at 18:08 Jad says:
Exactly. It is on GFWL for the same reason why L4D is only on Steam and not D2D or GFWL or the like. The same reason why Sins of a Solar Empire is on Impulse and not Steam.
Microsoft publishes Fable 3, and they have a digital distribution system to push.
Valve publishes L4D, and they have a digital distribution system to push.
Stardock publishes SoaSE, and they have a digital distribution system to push.
If you haven’t complained about the second and third situation, then don’t be surprised by the first.
21/05/2010 at 18:18 Tei says:
“Microsoft publishes Fable 3, and they have a digital distribution system to push.”
What Microsoft have is best described as Digital Hemorrhoids that want to share with all of us.
21/05/2010 at 18:28 Bhazor says:
Reply to Jad
Thats pretty much my feelings on the strange way people react on here to GFWL.
Oh silly Tei, that isn’t an answer.
21/05/2010 at 18:44 Wulf says:
If GFWL used money instead of that proprietary pseudo-money points nonsense then I’d have no problem with it, really. But as it is, the game is expensive, but you’ll probably pay £5 on top of that just to have enough ‘points’ to buy the game with, then you have leftover points that you don’t really want to do anything with. None of the other digital distribution systems feel that’s necessary.
21/05/2010 at 19:04 Hmm says:
@Wulf
You CAN pay with real money. Or MS points. Your choice.
21/05/2010 at 19:26 TheApplePie says:
@Hmm
Please enlighten me what choice people from the unsupported regions have?
22/05/2010 at 06:10 Wulf says:
@Hmm
Can you show me this? The last time I checked out GFWL, it only had prices in points, not pounds or some real-world currency that isn’t imaginary and made out of fairy farts.
Maybe they’ve changed it, but the last time I looked, all prices were shown in points. As long as they show prices in points, I’m not interested.
21/05/2010 at 18:09 Vinraith says:
will also be available for download exclusively on Games on Demand on Games for Windows – LIVE.”
I went from “mildly interested” to “burn it with fire” in the span of one sentence. Well done, MS.
21/05/2010 at 18:39 Hmm says:
Umm… get the retail version, then? You did not expect this game to be available digitally anywhere else, did you?
Also, what’s so horrible about GfWL Marketplace? I downloaded some demos and videos from there and never had any problems, and I’m from an unsupported region.
21/05/2010 at 18:46 Wulf says:
@Hmm
See reply above about proprietary pseudo-money ‘points’ nonsense.
That’s what’s bad about it.
21/05/2010 at 19:06 TheApplePie says:
@Hmm
You say you are from the unsupported country, like me. So tell me please, did you actually tried to buy something from the GFWL marketplace? Did you tried to activate a game with multiplayer that incorporated GFWL?
If the answer to the above is “yes”, please tell me how did you menage to do it without shamefully lying to Microsoft about the country you were born in. If “no”, then i guess you dont know what are you talking about…
21/05/2010 at 19:48 Hmm says:
@TheApplePie
Yes, I can play multiplayer, gain achievements etc. And yes, like millions of people not living in the “supported regions”, I had to choose a supported country when creating a LIVE account.
21/05/2010 at 20:04 TheApplePie says:
@Hmm
And like the millions of people not living in the “supported regions”, that had to lie to the omnipotent Microsoft about the country they were born in, just to access a product they paid for, you cannot verify your credit card nor your activated PayPal account to purchase anything from the Games For Windows Live marketplace. Sweet. :)
22/05/2010 at 13:58 subedii says:
Pretty much. Really, I’m surprised you can so casually say “Oh yeah, there’s nothing wrong with the system, I just need to make sure that it thinks I live in some other country because if the game got tied to an account detailing where I actually LIVE then GFWL would kick me off and refuse to allow to play my purchase.
I’ve heard more than a few people suffer from precisely this scenario. They fill in the details not knowing that Live has arbitrary restrictions on region and then they can’t play because their game’s been registered to an account that’s “in the wrong country”.
And I’ll second the griping about MS Points. If I want to buy anything off of Steam, DLC or not, I don’t need to first purchase 1000 Newells and then spend 520 of those. But hey, that’s OK! I just buy another batch of 1000 the next time I want to make a purchase.
MS Points are stupid and very patently money grubbing. I can’t see how they’re really defensible as the only means of buying DLC off of the GFWL store.
21/05/2010 at 18:53 Gwyn says:
£40? €55? For an offline game?
Are they actively trying to get people to pirate it?
21/05/2010 at 19:08 Hmm says:
Yeah, because that Indie pack that cost “as much as you want, even 1 dollar if you want” wasn’t pirated to hell and back.
Who cares about the suggested price, the game will be available for less at retailers anyway.
21/05/2010 at 19:11 WiPa says:
People who pirated the Humble Indie Bundle are idiots.
Why pirate something you can get for a penny? It’s pathetic.
That’s the difference between pirating this and pirating the bundle.
You aren’t an idiot if you pirate one overpriced game. You are if you pirate 5 games that you can get for a penny.
21/05/2010 at 18:58 geldonyetich says:
Geeze, what a pack of ninnies. I’m mostly seeing good news here:
1) I can play it on the my PC.
2) It’s priced, so that must mean it’s actually reasonably close to release.
Complaining that it does/does not have Windows Live, costs a little more in its country of origin, or is an offline game at full box price (hint: most are), seems a bit arbitrary.
21/05/2010 at 19:12 WiPa says:
GFWL. Blech.
21/05/2010 at 19:42 drewski says:
Considering Fable only used checkpoints within missions – outside them you could save anywhere you liked – it seems a little harsh to bash it for that compared to some of the moronic checkpoint systems used in some games (I’m looking at you, Far Cry.)
21/05/2010 at 19:45 drewski says:
I’ll probably pick this up from the bargain bin like I do the first Fable game.
Still need to borrow a 360 to play Fable II, mind.
21/05/2010 at 19:47 N says:
Has anyone here enjoyed Fable1? I played it for about one hour or so then went back to Gothic/Morrowind/MDKlmao.
21/05/2010 at 20:11 quijote3000 says:
I played and finished Fable 1. Good game. It’s clearly designed for the console crowd, though. It supports poligamy, which is always a good point in my book.
21/05/2010 at 19:53 clive dunn says:
i know this is slightly off topic but seriously
WHAT’S UP WITH THE PRICE OF TOILET ROLL AT THE MOMENT?!?!?!?
I am being serious btw. Has anyone else noticed the price hike recently. When i wipe my arse i don’t wanna think about how much it’s costing me!
21/05/2010 at 19:55 Kevbo says:
Surprised some people are actually interested in this game but different strokes for different folks….
The combination of the lackluster previous games and games for windows live ensures that I won’t touch this with a ten foot pole. If they added online co-op and steam support then maybe I would at least watch some videos and act like I’m interested :)
So tired of ‘accessible’ games made for profits and crammed on as many platforms as possible without taking the strengths of each platform into account :(
21/05/2010 at 20:03 Quijote3000 says:
That’s a good point. Many are complaining because they don’t like the price or all the GFWL. But, hey. Isn’t this a piece of good news for PC Gaming?
21/05/2010 at 20:28 adds says:
Stop being ignorant, MS. Steam is the ONLY way to get decent digital sales. Like it or not.
(I wish MS would put Gears of war on steam so that there would be more to play against *crycry*)
21/05/2010 at 20:55 Hmm says:
And this is why Steam needs competition. Games coming to GfWL and Impulse = preventing Valve’s service from becoming a monopoly in the digital market.
22/05/2010 at 00:06 Urthman says:
Yeah this is perfect. GFWL can have the PC versions of Fable 3 and Gears of War and maybe Alan Wake or Halo, which should be enough competition to keep Valve from being seduced by the Dark Side, while still not creating any need for me to use GFWL.
22/05/2010 at 00:10 cjlr says:
@adds
Uh… do you WANT a monopoly? Do you even remember playing that game? Three hours in and you’re not friends anymore with any of the people you’re playing with, a couple guys are eliminated and are playing cards in the back room, everybody’s trying hard to cheat their asses off just to finish the damn game, and then finally everbody says fuck it and you all go to a bar instead.
Wait, sorry, wrong monopoly. Except a distribution monopoly in a so-called free market is pretty much just as bad.
22/05/2010 at 12:51 Sonic Goo says:
Steam is the Windows of online games shopping. MS should know a thing or two about that sort of thing.
21/05/2010 at 20:41 CLD says:
Great news. I was expecting this after all the hints and slips lately.
21/05/2010 at 21:09 BobJustBob says:
No Steam no sale.
Not that I would buy the PC version of a console game anyway.
21/05/2010 at 21:11 wazups2x says:
Where’s my Steam version!
21/05/2010 at 22:27 DarkFenix says:
Lol, £40. Not that I needed an excuse to pirate it, but now I have one.
22/05/2010 at 13:12 quijote3000 says:
I’m not sure that’s the right attitude if we want to keep having PC games. Piracy is the excuse the companies always use (like Microsoft till this announcement) to stop releasing games in the PC.
22/05/2010 at 21:55 DarkFenix says:
Then good riddance to the big companies with their head-in-the-sand mindset. For every developer that ceases PC development in a big sulk when its mediocre but high budget game flunks, another two small developers rise up and take to the stage.
Digital distribution and the PC platform itself mean the barriers for entry into the PC market have never been lower.
24/05/2010 at 15:40 Bhazor says:
“another two small developers rise up and take to the stage.” Who also get pirated and go off to make iPhone games.
Don’t you dare try to pass off piracy as altruism.
22/05/2010 at 00:34 clippa says:
What an alarming cunt.
That’s the RRP, you’ll get it a lot cheaper than that. Pirating a game is one thing, but gloating about it quite another.
22/05/2010 at 22:03 DarkFenix says:
Indeed I will get it cheaper than that, I’ll get it for free.
As for ‘gloating’ over pirating games, I don’t really see it as gloating (that certainly isn’t my intent). I’m just open about it and open about my reasons over it. If a game isn’t up to scratch (compared to other similarly priced titles on the market), I won’t pay a penny for it. Fable has been mediocre from the start, and hasn’t improved with time (incidentally, I was suckered into buying the first game).
The other perk to being open over pirating is the wonderfully sweet tears and insults from people like you. Your indignation causes me the utmost joy.
24/05/2010 at 19:47 clippa says:
Posting in a thread to say that you don’t like the fable series of games and yet you are going to pirate the latest instalment. Of course it’s gloating.
22/05/2010 at 01:59 squirrel says:
From the announcement I interpret it as both disc and download version would be available, but if you download you can only download from GOWL. Of course, we will have confirmation once they put up an official website for the game as those games with disc version will have “PC-DVD” logo on them.
But one thing is certain, currently they dont plan on a limited or collector editions for PC, which is quite disappointing. Of course, many so-called collector editions bundled only with the “behind the scene” DVD, which worth nothing to me. But man, I want that Fable III player card so badly. Do I need to buy an XBOX just for that? Furthermore, and most importantly, it seems PC version does not provide access to collector edition exclusive DLC. I hope they would do something about it.
I cant any release day. The subtitle “Epic “Fable III” Journey Expands to Windows This Holiday” seems so unclear. Holiday means summer holiday? or Christmas?
22/05/2010 at 10:53 Hmm says:
Christmas.
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/54942/Fable-III-Coming-To-PC-This-Holiday-Season-Collectors-Edition-Detailed
22/05/2010 at 08:43 rf says:
Yep. GFWL (and Xbox Live) are nice and all… when they work, but Microsoft’s stupid to lock out unsupported countries – and also for not allowing people to change an account’s country designation afterwards. Lots of little, silly things that I fully expect a huge corporation like them to make, of course.
Not to mention that sometimes content on Live is locked by IP address and you cannot download it no matter what. Duke Nukem 3D and Doom on XBLA are good examples.
22/05/2010 at 11:03 Ben says:
“People who aren’t interested in that side of things will still enjoy.”
Why are developers making their games for anyone other than the people who are interested in them?
22/05/2010 at 11:05 Oddtwang says:
You’re all missing the salient point, here: There’s a chicken suit. CHICKEN SUIT!
22/05/2010 at 22:56 Pijama says:
Seriously, ever since Lionhead got with Microsoft, they have got increasingly mind-numbingly retarded.
Might be the choice of the publisher, but a designer with so much clout as Molyneux could have done something.
Anyway… Way to go from one of my (once) favoured studios.
23/05/2010 at 15:11 gamefool says:
Red bandana? John Cleese? Peter M doing his thang?
Oh, I’m just being cinical, I’ve never played a Fable game.
What is the franchise like for dialogue (choices)?
23/05/2010 at 17:35 PHeMoX says:
No way I am going to pay 15 euro bucks more than US customers would be paying for the same game.
I’m pretty sure European gamers will feel RIPPED OFF because of this, so before they’ll point their fingers towards piracy again…. change the pricing and just make it 100% even.
24/05/2010 at 07:38 -Spooky- says:
What´s about Fable 2 for PC? *tztz*
24/05/2010 at 08:14 Heliocentric says:
*recharges tazer*
Sorry, it just seemed the right thing to do.
24/05/2010 at 08:16 Magic H8 Ball says:
And then get nowhere with their games, can’t secure a publisher and fail.
24/05/2010 at 17:16 Hmm.-Hmm. says:
“Lionhead have confirmed on their website that Fable 3 is indeed destined for PC. Which is interesting, given previous form (there’s no Fable 2 on our beloved box).”
No, Jim, on the contrary. I’d say the really strange thing is that Fable 2 wasn’t released for the PC.. all things considered.
24/05/2010 at 17:24 Jim Rossignol says:
Not all that strange. It came at a time when the 360 needed maximum exclusivity to boost unit sales.
25/05/2010 at 14:41 oceanclub says:
I’m not sure why people get worked up about A-list titles being dear when purchased at release via digital distrubution. At this stage, that’s like getting annoyed at death or taxes; it’s just a fact of life. I’m sure Fable 3 will be around €25 via online retail. Since I got tired of Fable 2 relatively quickly, can’t see myself buying the sequel though, even on my preferred platform.
P.