All Right On The Blackest Night: DC Universe

By Kieron Gillen on June 16th, 2010 at 10:00 pm.

For your sake, that white stream you're firing at me better not be semen

What with my extra-RPS-ticular activities I should probably be careful with this one, yeah? Anyway – among the E3 assets there’s a trailer for the forthcoming (November!) DC Universe Online, which is trying to sell its “You’re a new hero and you get to choose whether to go good or evil and then fight alongside the legends” angle. And in its scripted manner, it actually does it pretty well. I also see the last set of assets released were a load of grabs of Power Girl, which seems to be some PR generously setting us up for a load of “Power Girl’s Assets” gags. I’m going to resist, instead talking about where I left a copy of the – actually very lovely – recent run around the house Delightful Fiancée stopped, considered it, then informed me “Power Girl’s breasts are ridiculous” before wandering off again. This is true. Er… trailer follows.

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  1. Flaringo says:

    At first glance I thought the laser was coming from the woman’s breasts.

  2. dadioflex says:

    Ridiculously awesome…

  3. Tei says:

    A hero is not a dude that can stop bullets with his hands. Is a dude that can’t stop bullets with his hands, but still get out to save a children from a two gangsta bands shoting at random in a mall.

    These superheros things are the most fake cultural item, ever. I don’t condone calling these things “people”.

    Mark Twain, William Shakespeare, Cervantes… good writters have tried to attack this monstruosity of the culture, and place again humains there. But for every good writter, for every Homero writting a Odisea, theres two writter making a Clash of Titans. Good writters make things people love, the genius writters are out to change what people like, in a dialogical battle against the wills and the inertia of the unwhased masses.

    DC Universe, I challenge you. Prove me wrong!. *sakes iron fist*

    • The Great Wayne says:

      Super heroes are not novel character. They are modern mythology. You’d think it’s the same, but it’s clearly not.

      That’s also pretty fun that you’re quoting Homero, because it’s mythology too. The Illiada is full of antic super heroes like Ajax (son of telamon) and Achille. Who are in fact guys that can stop bullets with their hands, or the ancient greece equivalent.

    • RQH says:

      @Tei: I think there’s room for a lot of different stories, and a lot of different kinds of heroes. I tend to think of superheroes as being largely about myth and metaphor. They play with the human experience on a very abstract and fundamental level. Other storytellers take these myths and metaphors and shade them in and go for a more detailed, less abstract, experience, and others twist them around to see what that says about the myths and people who make them. And others just enjoy playing in storytelling’s boldest brightest colors, its primary palette if you will.

    • Eamo says:

      You have never heard of Batman I take it.

    • Chris D says:

      @Tei

      You, sir, are entirely wrong. Superman and the rest aren’t heroes simply because they’re more powerful than most people, it’s because they choose to use their abilities to help others, not just to serve themselves. Being more powerful doesn’t mean they don’t have to make sacrifices either.

      But don’t just take me word for it. Here’s a musical number

      assuming I can get the link to work.

    • Jake says:

      @Tei – I’m not convinced this game will prove you wrong, but within DC, Morrison’s Batman would do I think.

      Any game where you can hang around with Batman is ok by me but god I hope he likes me, imagine if Batman thought you were a wanker.

    • Tei says:

      You guys must read “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court” or “Don Quijote”, or any story where people meets fantasy (spoiler: fantasy is destroyed)

      Also…

      *removes mask*

      I am batman!

    • The Great Wayne says:

      What can possibly leads you to think that we haven’t read cervantes ?

      You’re comparing apples and oranges. Superheroes appeal to mythology, in the same way Illiad and the odyssey characters are. They aren’t meant to be people, they are conceptual representations.

      And because they are modern mythology, they can’t be “the most fake cultural item ever”. Mythology is a cultural base defining a huge part of the value system of a societal paradigm. Constructed characters and stories that you’re talking about take place in this paradigm, and you can’t discard one to the profit of the other.

      You should read American Gods from Neil Gaiman. Very good book that can bring some perspective to this question, to an extent.

    • Helm says:

      Your line of argumentation is solid. Superheroes *can* be mythology (under the guise of brightly colored spandexians, by and for Americans mostly, but that’s besides the point) and they can be used to explore human situations. And I’ve read Gaiman and Moore and various others and I know the apologia by heart.

      This doesn’t change that the vast majority of superhero comics have their sights on a vastly baser desire than to enrich modern mythology. Don’t blame Tei for being skeptical, anyone that has sat down and read what superhero comic books usually are (and not so much pondering on what they could be) would be as disappointed.

      If it’s useful to you, this point comes from a person that is a comic artist and whom grew up with superhero comics. I am not expressing self-loathing, I do not regret my time with them, it is exactly because of it and because I’m active in both sides of the art that I can see exactly what Tei is talking about.

      About Homer’s Odyssey (or the Iliad) being akin to a superhero tale, I can entertain the notion, sure. The issue is how good of a story it is, not what type of story it is. The scarcity of good super hero comics (by most standards, certainly by mine) is the defining factor of how they’re perceived, not their potentiality for greatness. Too much mediocrity, too much industry, too little vision, too little risk.

    • Tei says:

      “They aren’t meant to be people, they are conceptual representations.”

      Lets destroy then. Ok?. I have enough of symbols, and referrers. Lets have the real thing, Ok?.

      *remove mask*

      Lets have people on our histories, and not symbols.

    • Jimmy says:

      It would be a pit of a push to compare Achilles and Batman..
      The former, in my mind, is the most fascinating character in the Odyssey. Brutal, but honestly so. Driven by emotion, and yet Homer can account for this without descriptions of brooding eyes, and cowering landscapes. It is Achilles himself, through his words and actions, that arouses our fascination with him.
      It is a magnificent form of story-telling that game developers and comic artists can aspire to, but I am not sure something truly great could be achieved under the limitations of current game mechanics. Maybe we need some new technological breakthrough in immersion technologies, like natural motion detectors and new commercially viable VR vision headsets.

    • Tei says:

      I have newfound powers, I have drink too much cafeine, so I can’t sleep, so I have to write yet anyther post (f/lame).

      Shakespeare in “A Midsummer Night’s Dream” uses mythology, he uses Oberon to describe a type of lover, and other characters for other types…
      Better info I am manage to build

      Shakespeare is not just building more Oberon lore, for everyone to have fun with fun Oberon adventures, he is using mythology to describe something very human: love types.

      Is a relevant old story, because we still get in love nowdays. Knowing that there are types of lovers (not everyone love the same way) and what are these types, is probably useful.

      Oberon is not just a superhero with superpowers, he has human flaws that are usefull to us. These flaws are not faked, are very real, people around you are subject to then, are living then just now.

      Point: Most superheros with superpowers are fake, things to support superpowers sets.

    • Kieron Gillen says:

      I’m off to bed, but to throw something in the room: I can’t think of a a videogame this site has thrown itself behind which hasn’t involved a lead character performing superhuman feats. If you’re focusing on critiquing *that* trope of the genre, you’re onto a loser, surely?

      KG

    • Jake says:

      ‘superheroes can be mythology’ – I am sure Thor would be glad to hear that.

      @Tei – it’s just the ‘super’ part you have a problem with? Plenty of comic book heroes are not super-powered. Watchmen is a well regarded comic about heroes with flaws. Personally I am fine with stories about god-like powers, Superman is the archetypal modern-day myth – Morrison’s All Star Superman is a masterpiece that serves as the definitive version of the myth.

    • Tei says:

      I have nothing against the super part. The greeks gods are super, but are like us, idiots and full of flaws(well, more like me). Is the fake thing that I am against, characters that are made of plastic, not human flesh. Characters that have nothing to teach us about what is to be human.

    • Wulf says:

      @Jake

      Morrison’s Animal Man and Morrison’s Doom Patrol would, verily, Morrison’s anything regardless of the Universe. Since he tends not to write impregnable heroes, he tends to write burnt out, cracked, flawed heroes that always come through, and show their beauty regardless. It’s something I really enjoy about his writing style.

    • Kieron Gillen says:

      Which is where Tei’s talking nonsense.

      I’d argue the primary mode of modern American superhero comics isn’t blank power-fantasy – it’s soap opera, and has been since the 70s (i.e. X-men’s Rise To Dominance). Which is a different thing from being high literature, but also a very different thing from being what Tei’s accusing them of. In fact, the endless serial nature of mainstream superhero comics and their fans feeds upon their artificial reality. The lifetime collectors who follow a comic, even if they don’t like it, just because they want to know what their favourite character is up to.

      This isn’t about them being fake. This is about them being the opposite of fake.

      Personally I lean towards the modern-mythology side of the equation when left to my own devices, but the idea that superhero characters are written as statues is openly ludicrous.

      I totally didn’t got to bed. I started listening to New Order.

      KG

    • yogSo says:

      Tei, with all your mask removing lately, be careful not to remove your Rorscharch mask and reveal to the whole world that you are, after all, just an ordinary man under the hood ;)

    • Helm says:

      Kieron: that the comics are followed as soaps, for their internal world and character interaction is something that anyone that has read serialized superhero comics can attest to readily.

      However this doesn’t mean the feature characters are ‘real’ as in that they are not rounded. An essential part of any story, even if it is in Picaresque form, ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picaresque_novel ) is that the character will develop, and through his episodes and misadventures will eventually arrive at their destination, their raison d’etre will culminate. Odysseus reaches Ithaca and confronts his wife’s suitors, there is an end to the story. Odysseus later dies, like men die and we are left with stories of a life. That he reached Ithaka isn’t the most interesting thing about him (what he did to get there certainly is) but he did reach it. That is the circle of life and death and any story that respects humanity remembers it.

      Superhero comics, due to pressures of an industry that is guarding its IP very obsessively, are soaps and therefore the drama of teliosis, of death, of destination, is taken from them. Superman never will change because he needs to be sold over and over. He might grow longer hair or turn blue, but he’ll be superman again, eventually. Anything a brilliant writer can do with a hero will be undone by the next writer returning to the safe status quo. Sure, that meta-drama of what creator did what with which IP is interesting to some, but I do not think it alleviates the problems with the ‘reset button’.

      This is the uncomfortable space between picaresque heroes and archetypal symbols that American superheroes are trapped in. Tei’s not talking nonsense, let’s not make a complicated thing into a simpler one just to take a stance. Superheroes are not real because they do not develop, they do not age, they do not die.

    • Marco W. says:

      Lobo is the only hero :D

    • Kieron Gillen says:

      Helm: I’m deliberately being objective with this – clearly many, many people disagree that the lives don’t feel real, because that’s exactly the reason why they follow it.

      The odd dramatic tension between nothing ever fundamentally changing and the audiences interest in stories which “matter” (i.e. Change Things) is a key internal contradiction in the two main American superhero universes is something they simply can accept.

      KG

    • Dante says:

      Personally I’ve never agreed that verisimilitude should be the goal of any kind of art or entertainment. If I wanted unremitting reality I would simply look around me, I read or watch fiction (of any kind) because the characters are more than real. Because they offer an ideal of heroism to aspire too, because they’re smarter and wittier than I could ever be without a room of talented writers to back be up.

      This doesn’t mean everything should be fantastic either, my favourite pieces of fiction are those that take a realistic grounding and at that little bit more to inspire.

      I’m not necessarily talking about comics here by the way, of which I know fairly little. Everything I’ve said could just as easily apply to the optimism and witticism of something like ‘The West Wing’.

    • Jake says:

      Helm – I agree that there is a danger of a new writer returning a status quo that can diminish events that have happened before. I just read Ultimate X-Men, and near the end there is a pretty good arc where a bunch of people die, then the next writer takes over and with no explanation they are all back again and playing baseball (although later the Ultimate universe has a few significant, irreversible changes).

      But the bad writing done on a character/series doesn’t mean that the good writing is undone, there have been plenty of bad Batman stories for example, but you don’t have to read them – following a good writer rather than a character is usually the best way to enjoy comics, and often these will be self contained arcs. You can ignore the reset button, or skip the Kevin Smith Batman and just read Morrison.

      This is why people talk about reading arcs in comics, no one would suggest that you go read all of Captain America, but you might suggest someone goes and read an arc, with a beginning middle and end.

      Plus there are plenty of totally self contained super-hero stories such as All-Star Superman, or The Dark Knight Returns. Both of these stories make the characters seem very real and very human.

      Having said all that, I personally like reading the soap opera stories just fine, after all it’s taken 5 years for the status quo to be restored in Marvel.

    • Helm says:

      Kieron: How can you be certain that the people that like those comics (or people that like soaps) follow them because they feel real? Reality’s a risk and there’s no guarantee of things making sense. What if they like it because it’s unreal, because things make sense and there is a status and safeness that juxtaposes pleasantly to their real lives? Even if the truth is somewhere in the middle, I think you’re erring way too much on the side of good faith here.

      One can watch The Wire and one can watch Dallas. The Wire is self-contained, things happen, characters develop, reach conclusions are reached and no mercy is given. Viewer is left to deal with the debris. Dalls goes on forever, things never happen because they’re undone without consequence or lasting impression, no point is reached and mercy is implied in the perpetuity. Viewer is left to superficially ponder this week’s plot twist, just before the next.

      To say that the latter experience hinges on a sense of reality might be a stretch. It’s like saying people eat junk food because they recognize the nutritional value.

      About them simply accepting stuff as they are I will not speculate, perhaps they do, perhaps they’ve been trained to do or perhaps it’s right of them to do and I’m the odd one out. But I can only speak for myself when I say that as a lover of comics, the superhero paradigm is stifling other avenues for sequential storytelling through sheer inertia.

      Jake: I do not read superhero comics very often but when I do I do pick up collected editions of ‘runs’ as you say. But the older I get the more difficult it is for me to accept the conceit of self-regurgitating perpetuity in the abstract and say “alright, I’ll sit down and read a wolverine story now because Alan Moore wrote it”. I don’t care enough about Wolverine because I know he will never change or die. If something cannot die, it has never lived.

      To make yet another videogame parallel, circa Half Life episode 12 I probably wouldn’t play even if it was a good game. What the industry doesn’t like to realize is that ‘franchises’ and ‘IPs’ that run in perpetuity are alien to the human experience. Our lives are – fairly – short, they take drastic turns and we are confronted with senseless harsh ends in various endeavors daily, how can a yarn about a radioactive mutant that has gone on for 30 years continue to be relevant to a person that changes due to external and internal conflict every few years? To mix metaphore again (sorry) you can read the Odyssey in a week, and its the summation of a very active person’s life, and it still takes a week and trust me if you do, you’ll come out full. You’ll be thinking about the Odyssey for the next month if you do this. The idea of ‘the further adventures of young Odysseus, now in serialized form’ might strike you as preposterous exactly because what you read was self-contained, yet endlessly inspirational.

    • Jake says:

      The Wolverine example is a little confusing because literally not being able to die is his whole deal, so it’s the fact he has been alive for so long that helps make him interesting. Most characters are reinvented to stay current and fresh (I mean like Cyclops when written by Whedon), and exposure to a character for only 25 pages a month is pretty different to say, a daily soap opera. Plus the older stuff drops out of continuity.

      Wolverine is also very over-exposed and with such exposure inevitably comes a dilution of quality. Still though, it is possible to read a self contained and conclusive Wolverine story in, say, the Ultimate universe or the Old Man Logan stories. Besides, though it does seem unlikely that Wolverine would be killed off at the height of his popularity in mainstream continuity, it could happen one day. I don’t want to type any spoilers, but a cooler-than-Wolverine character died recently in the main X-Men comic. There are some permanent deaths in comics and there is currently a whole thing about promising that deaths are permanent from DC… we’ll see about that anyway.

      I would agree that the announcing the killing off of main characters as a way to attract people to the title is a bit irritating in it’s impermanence – Cap, Batman, Superman etc, but to be fair a lot of the coming back from the dead in comics is actually coming back from assumed death.

  4. Acosta says:

    For when Phonogram the MMO, Kieron?

  5. The Great Wayne says:

    Is the super heroes MMORPG cake so big and delicious-looking that three titles are cohabitating on it (CoH, Champs and now this one) ?

    Suprising, I’d have said it was more of a restricted population, especially considering the spandex lovers also have star trek online to choose from.

    • Chris D says:

      Y’know strangely enough I’m not sure the spandex is what actually attracts most people to a game.

    • The Great Wayne says:

      Yeah at first I thought that too, but then what could possibly be appealing to players in Star Trek ? :o]

      (I admit, this one was easy)

    • Wulf says:

      Interestingly, none of my characters have spandex in Champions Online, they dare to defy the Universe by being brilliant because of who and what they are, rather than what they wear. It’s the Wolverine take on heroes, I suppose. My werewolf pack, all of whom have an interwoven back story, are incredibly unique, but not one of them wears tights.

      And only one of them has a codename, even, but mostly because he’s got a bit of an ego, the others just have regular names and insist people call them by it and stop trying to pin codenames on them. >.>

      I play Champions Online really because it allows me to be what I want to be, and it’s good bloody fun.

    • Clovis says:

      If the “dudes baking cakes” cake is so big that American cable can support three separate “dudes baking cakes” shows, then surely MMO cake is big enough for three super hero slices.

      Mmm, cake.

  6. geldonyetich says:

    Looks good. I know I’d give it a spin, see how it stands up to the two other spandex-based MMOs.

  7. ruaidhri says:

    um, catwoman throwing down against wonderwoman? i dunno but methinks not.

  8. Vivian says:

    Hooray! More choral, camera-circlingly pompous superhero shit with all the genuine gravitas of a waffle. Thanks for reminding me why I hate going into comic shops! I met the guy who’s drawing spiderman at the moment at some kind of cabalic comic book get together in a shit pub near seven dials. Really nice bloke, can’t remember his name, spanish I think. Anyway, he was doing the art for a new spiderman series when spiderman was young in the seventies or whatever (don’t ask me, I fucking hate spiderman). Anyway, spiderman had long hair because it was the seventies and that was cool. Being an extremely talented artist, this bloke drew spiderman so that when he had his spider balaclava on, you could see the slight bulge his long hair would cause being tucked in under such thin, clingy material. Apparently, the near universal response of comic fans was wailing and crying ‘that not what spidermans head looks like!’ and the guy got told to stop it. To me, that sums up why superhero comics are fucking stupid. It’s not inherent in the genre (although to be honest…), its the FUCKING STUPID FANS.

    Batman gets a free pass because he’s basically Judge Dredd with a cape. And Martial Law doesn’t count because of Kevin O’Neill and because he also beat someone to death with a vibrator and also because DON’T CALL HIM A HERO

  9. Tim says:

    I was completely distracted by the annoying voice.

  10. Drexer says:

    Kieron Gillen – carefully travelling across the fine cliffs of Marvel and DC to bring us videogame news. He’s the hero we all need.

    On a more game related topic:

    Being a DC reader, I’m quite interested in this and excited to finally see a release date. I did think that the dialog was a bit cringe-inducing though, and the only initial addition of Metropolis and Gotham puts me a bit uneasy. But that might be because of Blackest Night/Brightest Day and how it and the Green Lantern Corps all put the will to go across the Universe into my mind. Guess what pun I made in the last phrase?

    PS: The last year Power Girl series was indeed awesome.

  11. The Codicier says:

    Gotta say i feel hugely underwhelmed atm.
    Actually no that’s a lie i’m probably giving Dc the benefit of the doubt because I’m fond of their IP what i actually feel is this looks very disappointing and that it utterly misses the point of superheroes.

    Superhero comics can be a guilty pleasure for me but they do some things very well. Sadly i can see no sign of any of those things in this trailer.

    If the video is anything to go by it utterly fails to convey any sense of dynamism in its combat.

    The typical accusation thrown at superhero’s is ‘adolescent power fantasies’, but even if you accept this as a valid criticism of the genre it would be nice if they made a game where the characters actually felt like they had some frikkin power!

    When superman hits someone you shouldn’t get just a little glowly effect & then business carries on as usual.
    When superman hits someone they should be knocked flying through the air into the nearest building, which their impact promptly demolishes!

    If as announcer man says, ‘the universes greatest heroes’ are having a brawl you might think, maybe, just maybe, a tiny bit of property damage might occur. But no this is some of the stalest looking combat i’ve seen for a while.

    Destructible terrain of even the most basic kind would probably be a nightmare for any MMO to do with current technology but a simple fact remains: If you can’t make a game which does your characters justice with current technology then don’t make it!

    I can imagine this sort of game doing more harm to the DC brand than it does good.

    That’s just my gripes with the mechanics of the thing

    In some ways its even worse that they have utterly missed a chance to do something which messes around with the idea of superheros in a wider cultural context.
    There is such innate potential in the DC Multiverse (think crisis of infinite worlds for instance) to do something which takes itself a bit less seriously and is aware of the occasional ridiculousness of its subject matter .

    The most successful MMO ( WoW )doesn’t take itself seriously, and has more cultural & self referential moments than almost any other.

    Crysis 2 in some ways looks far more of a superhero game than this

  12. WiPa says:

    Sniper: Ghost Warrior demo has been released!

    Do your thing RPS.

  13. amishmonster says:

    I dunno if I missed this in an earlier article, but congrats to Kieron for having a Delightful Fiancee!

  14. Wulf says:

    Whether I’ll even look in the direction of this will completely depend on whether or not the character customisation is as diversified as that of Champions Online, which I frequently wring new potential out of.

    Time will tell.

  15. Bret says:

    Huh.

    Roboty guy shooting Power Girl looks kinda like Master Chief.

    Irrelevant comment man, away!

  16. Chris D says:

    If your point is that 90% of superhero comics are crap then fair enough but that’s a little redundant as so is 90% of everything else. You can’t argue that because some or most of it is badly written that there are no good superhero stories or that the entire genre is invalid.

    They don’t age? Dick Grayson started as Robin and is now Nightwing. They don’t die? Barry Allen is dead, so is Hal Jordan (at least he was, I haven’t been keeping up). They don’t change? Well, neither do most lead characters in TV shows, but Barbara Gordon started as Batgirl but now fights crime from her wheel chair.

    I’m not sure where the not real argument is going. Of course they’re not real, they’re fictional. Do you mean not real in the sense of having to suspend disbelief to accomodate their powers? That’s common to most Fantasy and SF as well. Or do you mean not convincing as characters? Some are, some aren’t, it depends on the writer.

    • Chris D says:

      Reply fail. That was for Helm and Tei upthread

    • Helm says:

      Chris D, let’s put it this way. Yes, 90% of everything in art is mostly diminished returns and riskless endeavors worthy of little to no interest for discerning individuals. However in the field of American comics, superheroes crowd the market and marginalize alternative offerings, through sheer numbers. Things have become better over the years but there’s still a long way to go before we can talk about artistically positive balance. An industry (because that is what it is) is trying to keep its share of the pie through means that have nothing to do with creating good art and everything to do with maintaining a popular paradigm of what comics ‘are supposed to be’ and market manipulation, pushing aside smaller individual efforts that could, in a fairer world, be of interest to a wider public.

      To make a general parallel to the film industry, there are too many blockbusters and they take vital space and funds that could be going to more idiosyncratic film that, while it too may fail at its goals, at least has some other than ‘vicariously entertain a viewer for 2 hours and then fade away’.

      To make an even more understandable parallel, there are too many FPSes. This isn’t to say that there cannot be good FPSes, but it does say that there is only finite visibility space for videogames products and the big companies that make FPSes are equipped to monopolize that space.

      Ah, of course, you think, the indie scene! Yes, in videogames we are experiencing a renaissance of individual efforts and digital distribution is the vehicle for that.

      In comics printed on paper, digital distribution is not a solution (yet). Comics that do not cohere to the superhero comics paradigm will suffer through publishing, distribution and marketing because the machine that is in place serves the superhero periodicals best.

      I have read absolute gems, masterfully told human stories in the superhero format. This doesn’t mean the world needs so many superhero comics.

    • Clovis says:

      At the rate that content (especially TV, books) is being created, I’d bump that number up to 98% or so and increasing.

      However, there is still much, much more really good content being created now then ever before.

    • Dante says:

      Barry Allen and Hal Jordan are both back I’m afraid. DC is going on a bit of a nostalgia trip these days.

  17. Fitzmogwai says:

    Gillen –

    Congratulations on transforming Delightful Girlfriend into Delightful Fiancée!

    Might be old news to the rest of RPS but the first mention of it that I’ve seen.

  18. Adrian says:

    It looks like they tried to make the combat in the video look all not wow like and intuitive. But then at 1:40 you can just tell… its gonna be just like wow. screw this

  19. Ken McKenzie says:

    In amongst the interesting discussion about what comics actually *are* these days (yes, they’re a superpowered soap opera in general, interspersed with social commentary which verges from the well-done to the painful), it is important to note that Keiron’s link renders as “Thor, Colon Thunder Down Under”, which implies the God of Thunder has developed IBS.

    There was a storyline where Peter Parker got a cold, and the very good X-Men issue where Kitty Pride beat a demon whilst suffering from the ‘flu, but it’s great to see new boundaries being broken and that Keiron is tackling the tricky issue of stress amongst the immortals.

  20. Comics Weekly says:

    Power girl! If anything, those boobs are not big enough. I want BIGGER. I demand bigger! I want Michael Turner-esque back-breakers! I want DEFORMED! I want… them to release this for XBox. If you had to draw parallels, DC is definitely XBox and PS3 is Marvel (Image is iPhone apps, Oni is Farmville).

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