By Quintin Smith on November 3rd, 2010 at 11:59 am.

EG report that Easy, developers of Battlefield Heroes, will be announcing a “completely new” Battlefield title this Friday. Easy’s general manager also let it be known that the title won’t be (a) Battlefield 3, or (b) Battlefield Assault, which is the name of a domain EA picked up recently.
Sometimes I think RPS is two sites. One of them is called Hot Manshoots, and the other is called The Indie Lagoon, and I don’t think they can co-exist forever. There will come a time when we’ll all have to pick sides. Which side would you fight for, readers?



03/11/2010 at 12:00 Navagon says:
Battlefield: Modern Whorefest.
03/11/2010 at 12:01 frags says:
The Indie Lagoon anytime
03/11/2010 at 12:02 Badger says:
Lagoon forever, Manshoots never
03/11/2010 at 12:04 jeremypeel says:
We could always become a virtual swingers club called the Hot Indie Man Lagoon.
What?
03/11/2010 at 12:05 Quintin Smith says:
Hot Indie Man Lagoon is a pretty good four word summary of RPS.
03/11/2010 at 12:12 jeremypeel says:
Well I certainly know what the RPS biopic is going to be called once you guys implode.
03/11/2010 at 12:30 Nihileth says:
Hot Indie Man Lagoon, HIML, which in Swedish would be pronounced [Himmel]” which is Swedish for Heaven, thus RPS = Heaven. Or something.
Also: Where is the result for the chime contest :(
03/11/2010 at 12:04 coldwave says:
Hot Manshoots
03/11/2010 at 12:04 mrmud says:
Manshoots over many of the indie games showcased on the site.
That said there are indie games (such as AI war) that are a bit more interesting and playable.
03/11/2010 at 12:06 Dreamhacker says:
Manshoot side. I hear the Indie Lagoon side wants slavery to stay legal!
03/11/2010 at 12:08 the wiseass says:
More like Manpoops. There I said it. INDIE LAGOON FOREVER!
03/11/2010 at 12:09 Heliocentric says:
Notch has bought out EA with his billions of minecraft profits. Minecraft: Battlefield (note the order of the titles) will be released october next year.
03/11/2010 at 12:15 frags says:
I loled. But I’m guessing an MMOFPS.
03/11/2010 at 18:57 Dances to Podcasts says:
Massive Minecraft Online First Person Shoveler?
It has a cover system: you build some cover, then hide behind it.
03/11/2010 at 23:03 DJ Phantoon says:
Wow! No one can bitch about the cover system when it’s your fault as the player for building it!
Brilliant!
03/11/2010 at 12:21 Saul says:
Indie Lagoon has got it ‘goon on.
03/11/2010 at 12:27 Malibu Stacey says:
Indie lagoon forever.
Manshooting was already boring in 2007 & other than the very notable exception of Team Fortress 2 (which doesn’t really fit the “angryfaced manshooting” template anyway) it’s thus far been unchanged even with multiple releases of the same tired old franchises rehashing the same tired template every year.
03/11/2010 at 18:33 Barnaby says:
I agree with this sentiment. Doesn’t mean I’m not still holding my breath hoping for something new and exciting. The mixture of FPS games with RPG elements is fantastic, and even more so those that include co-op.
What I’d really slay babies for is a fantasy based FPS that focused on a wealth of spell based skills, where aiming would be an important factor (no auto-aim please). Oblivion did this but the variation in spells and spell animations was pretty limited.
03/11/2010 at 20:32 Jad says:
I only played the demo, but it sounds like Dark Messiah of Might & Magic is what you are looking for.
03/11/2010 at 12:29 Tiktaalik says:
Indie lagoon obv. You manshoots people aren’t real RPSers. I hear you don’t even have souls!
03/11/2010 at 12:30 mlaskus says:
I refuse to choose between the two!
03/11/2010 at 14:35 Thermal Ions says:
Hear, Hear. I enjoy balancing my frivolous manshoot sessions (combined with occassional head accoutrement) with some indie goodness.
03/11/2010 at 22:12 Starky says:
I agree, though I fear if this was based on played hours, I’d land firmly in the Manshooter camp.
I love me some hot Indie action, but usually they work out MUCH more expensive in terms of hours played per £ than the man shoots.
Especially when I buy most of my AAA shooters in steam sales or discount/cheap online retail.
03/11/2010 at 12:33 AndrewC says:
I choose Infinite And Empty Space.
03/11/2010 at 12:34 Mashakosha says:
There will come a time when an Indie Manshoots will arrive and we shall be forever united.
I wouldn’t like to pick a side either way. The ensuing battle would tear me apart mentally.
03/11/2010 at 12:37 rissky says:
hot manshoot is awesome, and frankly was the only reason i picked up on rps in the first place, but since then i’ve discovered the joys of indie awesomeness; but as i’ve got the attention span of a newborn kitten, and like shooting men in the face i need the happy happy joy joy of indieness interspersed with man shoot.
03/11/2010 at 12:37 JB says:
You ask me to choose
There really is no contest
Indie lagoon, ho!
03/11/2010 at 12:39 Schmung says:
There are plenty of Indie manshoiots out there. They deserve more attention TBH
03/11/2010 at 12:39 CMaster says:
You see, I spend a lot of my time playing manshoots and all. But I probably wouldn’t come here if that was all it offered. At the same time, I love some indie gems that are out there. But what I really love, what I constantly want to see are games that expand the interaction we can have. I want to see first person games that break out of the “refrigerator box” model (looks like Brink might be the first to do this since The Opera). I want to see games where we can interact beyond blowing things up, or “use x on y to solve puzzle”. And neither hot manshoots resistant to change as they are, or the majority of Indie games, typically being focussed on refining one key mechanic deliver on. So I keep coming to RPS for neither of those sides – I’m one of those bystanders in the middle who’ll get cut down in the crossfire :(
(Basically, every time I fire up RPS, I hope to see an article that basically says “OMG, it’s like Deus Ex all over again. It makes all other games look stale and limiting. BUY NOW!”. Sadly it doesn’t look that likley, although Dwarf Fortress (for all its unplayableness), Minecraft and AI War have all been lights of hope.
03/11/2010 at 12:42 Serenegoose says:
I cannot pick a side! As much as the Indie Lagoon has the innovation, manshoots has SHOOTING MANS, an activity I enjoy greatly! Can’t we unite the two in love forever?
03/11/2010 at 12:55 UW says:
I choose both.
03/11/2010 at 13:15 Lyramiel says:
I choose Rapture.
03/11/2010 at 13:42 Serenegoose says:
A city where the Manshooters would not fear the haughty condemnation of the Indies.
Where the marksman would not be bound by petty sportsmanship.
Where the innovative would not be constrained by the derivative.
And with the sweat of your index finger, Rapture can be your city as well.
03/11/2010 at 12:57 Joshua says:
I’d go Witcher Style Neutral.
03/11/2010 at 13:03 Kast says:
But I want indie manshoooooooots!
03/11/2010 at 13:06 Kast says:
Also, why am I staring at John Travolta’s bearded face?
03/11/2010 at 13:05 JustOneWay says:
“Developer announces that they will be making an announcment” stories make me sad :-(
03/11/2010 at 14:41 Thermal Ions says:
The fact that game journalists seemingly increasingly denigrate themselves by lapping such press releases up from publishers makes me a little sad and quite a bit disappointed.
03/11/2010 at 13:05 Miko says:
My amount of interest in Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, Halo, etc, is best measured with an atomic scale and a pair of tweezers. I’m rather more interested in Brink and a few others, but if it weren’t for Team Fortress 2 the whole genre of first-person shooters could disappear into the nether void and I wouldn’t give a hoot.
Come to think of it, I’d like to see, oh, a five-year moratorium on first-person shooters. If you’re working on one release it by end of 2011. Release anything that could be described as an FPS in the period of 2012 – 2017, all your profits are confiscated and you go to prison. I daresay we’d see a hell of a lot more original ideas and maybe even whole new genres spring up.
03/11/2010 at 13:07 Kast says:
No, they’d all just make 3rd person ‘action-adventure’ games and free-to-play MMOs instead.
04/11/2010 at 05:44 Thants says:
I’d also like it if developers only made games that interest me personally.
04/11/2010 at 09:42 Miko says:
How cynical you are, Kast! And don’t get me wrong, I liked FPSes as much as the next man. Possibly more than most. But the genre is beyond saturated. I’ve filled up on shooty shooty the bad men with the assault rifle so much that it’s coming out of my ears and nose. There seems to be an infinite and paradoxically steadily growing number of FPSes out there – hell, the rate at which their production is growing is growing – and they’re increasingly difficult to distinguish from each other in any way.
03/11/2010 at 13:07 Tei says:
re: lagon vs manshooters
Why I would ignore seriusly awesome games?, both of course.
03/11/2010 at 13:20 adonf says:
I’d choose the Indie Lagoon because I don’t understand anything that’s related to war, uniforms or guns. But the manshoot reports are entertaining to read even when they make no sense to me so please keep them and the indie stuff together on the same site.
By the way, what does “Cover me” mean ? I’ve heard the expression a million time without really caring but it’s an order in a game I’m playing now
03/11/2010 at 13:23 CMaster says:
@adonf
Basically that while you move, the person you instructed to “cover you” should remain in position and neutralize (or supress) anyone who attempts to fire on you.
03/11/2010 at 13:37 adonf says:
Hmmm yes, I think I understand. The important part is not “Shoot every bad guy you see” which is the default NPC behaviour but “Stop following me while I move”. Alright, thank you CMaster.
03/11/2010 at 14:58 phuzz says:
@adonf
Correct, except there are no NPCs in war.
(or winners, respawns, healthpacks or good outcomes)
03/11/2010 at 13:25 subversus says:
both
03/11/2010 at 13:26 Maykael says:
This is a site about PC games. Both indie and big studio ones. If you only looked at indie, who would be there to laugh at Medal of Honor. Quinns, stop trolling! :P
Also for the Indie Lagoon guys: Are you guys telling me that you’ve never enjoyed a triple-A games and that you would not like them covered by RPS? Really?
03/11/2010 at 13:29 Maykael says:
“A triple-A game”… damn my short atention span.
03/11/2010 at 13:45 Ergates says:
Hot Lagoons do it for me.
03/11/2010 at 13:47 Lucas says:
Please don’t post announcements of announcements. That said, 2143 or bust!
03/11/2010 at 21:55 Dreamhacker says:
No, not that crap again! : X
03/11/2010 at 14:12 pagad says:
This is ridiculous. RPS doesn’t specialise in a type of PC game, it covers them all. If it were to specialise in either manshoots or obscure indie titles it would suffer for it.
03/11/2010 at 14:30 Mattressi says:
I don’t think the question should be “indie vs FPS”, but more of a “real PC game vs repetitive, badly-ported console game”. I love FPS games, but I absolutely despise BF:BC2, MW2, MoH and all of the other terrible on-rails console shooters.
If I had to choose, I’d go indie, definitely; but I still like old FPS games and some of the newer ones (like ArmA, Red Orchestra, Stalker series etc). I like RPS because it doesn’t pander to the “triple A” (why are they called that? They’re all so terrible!) FPS titles like certain other sites *cough*PC Gamer*cough*, even if you do still report on them. I like that you guys tend to be much more excited about indie games and games that look like they aren’t just crappy ports, than about titles from EA, Ubisoft and Activision.
The reason I came here was because of the great pieces on Minecraft and Dwarf Fortress. The reason I left PC Gamer was because of the amount of coverage of “triple A” titles compared to the smaller titles.
03/11/2010 at 21:45 P3RF3CT D3ATH says:
PC Gamer talk about ARMA II and Minecraft all the damn time. They even talk about Dwarf Fortress as well but not as much as the other two.
03/11/2010 at 14:35 Chris says:
Am I allowed L4D(2) on the grounds that it was an indie TC before being bought up by Valve? Please?
I don’t find myself in the position of caring less about MW & derivatives (played CoD4, call back when you do something different kthxbi), but I do love me some shooty goodness when done properly. Besides, I suck at platformers.
Besides, are we really saying that we want to stop talking about STALKER (with or without full stops)? (slinks back to KotOR, picked up for pocket change in the last Steam sale, which is neither)
03/11/2010 at 14:55 Mike says:
Noooo, don’t stop doing either Indie or Commercial games! That’s why I love RPS so much. You guys report on both. Also, subscribed. I might even be able to swing a few bucks in the future (really poor right now). Keep being awesome!
03/11/2010 at 14:58 Shazbut says:
Given that you can make a game that is first-person-literally-anything-other-than-shooting and it will inspire considerable critical commentary all over the net, with many going well out of their way to overlook any gaping flaws it might have, (such as it not making sense or being incredibly boring), it would seem that FPS dominance has outstayed it’s welcome in the minds of anyone with more than a passing interest in gaming and a capacity or predisposition to think about it, for at least a generation. Also, if said game has any kind of interpersonal element at all, at least one person will describe it as “moving”, and may even claim it made them cry.
Ordinary manshoots can provide some low-grade fun, but only in the way that masturbating in the dead of night in an underground toilet because you missed the last cab and have to do something can be considered fun. Otherwise, they are lifeless. They are from a cold and dead place which is poisonous to creativity, maturity, progression, and everything good.
So the other one. Indie Lagoon.
03/11/2010 at 15:40 mlaskus says:
Hey, don’t knock masturbation, it’s sex with someone I love!
03/11/2010 at 15:59 pagad says:
Over-saturation of anything at all is a bad thing, whether it’s Modern Warfare 2 or Minecraft. Please, guys, can we not sink to ugly elitism.
03/11/2010 at 16:45 JonFitt says:
So is this the announcement of the announcement?
I think I must have missed the announcement of the announcement of the announcement. Damn, my hype for this game is ruined.
03/11/2010 at 16:52 oatish says:
I like games what are played with dices and paper…
can we have some of those?
and dinner?
03/11/2010 at 17:44 trooperdx3117 says:
How about manshoots in a lagoon, does that seem like a fair comprimise?
03/11/2010 at 17:45 Jimbo says:
RPGs N’ Shit.
03/11/2010 at 17:55 Nick says:
hmm, if its not Battlefield 3 I don’t really give a flying monkey bollock.
03/11/2010 at 18:02 Shadrach says:
Red Orchestra is a Hot Manshooter Indie! Yay!
03/11/2010 at 18:13 westyfield says:
BF: 2142: 2 please, thanks.
Hot manshoots and indie lagoonery are both fantastic, I refuse to choose between the two. Much like pirates and ninjas, there will come a day when both can work together for the good of all.
03/11/2010 at 18:14 timfraserbrown says:
Battlefield: Good Company? Just 5 guys getting along, having fun in the wilderness?
03/11/2010 at 18:22 westyfield says:
Frolicking in the indie Lagoon?
03/11/2010 at 21:52 dragon_hunter21 says:
Battlefield: Good Company could be a real shooter simulator. Y’know, spend 35 hours on patrol, then have somebody get sniped and wait another half-hour for an airstrike to arrive to destroy the building the sniper’s in.
03/11/2010 at 18:14 DOS4GW says:
If this turns out to be Battlefield 2143 I am going to implode with joy. Please o please o please.
03/11/2010 at 18:44 coldwave says:
Damn, I wish.
Berlin was my favorite map in every BF ever.
03/11/2010 at 18:21 Ted says:
if it has more than 64 players per battle, then I don’t really care what timeframe/line this game it.
maybe itsa BF: 2242, but I bet its going to be … different.
I really doubt it’ll be a continuation of of of DICE’s things.
here’s betting its F2P
03/11/2010 at 18:28 Isaac says:
The beard-y guy in the middle hails from a part of the uncanny valley I am not familiar with. There’s nothing obviously wrong with him(unlike the Bethesda style zombie-robots) but he looks so off …
04/11/2010 at 07:51 coldwave says:
Thousand-yard stare?
03/11/2010 at 19:22 DXN says:
There will come a time when we’ll all have to pick sides. Which side would you fight for, readers?
You’re just trying to cut your workload in half, aren’t you? But you won’t catch me out with your clever tricks, Smith! I definitely like and want to read about both.
03/11/2010 at 19:42 Zwebbie says:
Hot Manshoots? Indie Lagoon? I only visit RPS for the puns.
03/11/2010 at 21:47 dragon_hunter21 says:
I don’t see how you the Indie Lagoon can defeat the Hot Manshoots.
I mean, Hot Manshoots has nanosuits, chainguns, lots of swearing and testosterone… Indie Lagoon has pretentiousness and scorn.
But seriously, I enjoy both sides of the coin, but Guys With Guns > adventure games any day. Call me a 90′s gamer-child, but hey.
04/11/2010 at 01:26 wazups2x says:
Seriously, already another Battlefield? Geez, I can’t keep up with all of these games.
It would be nice if DICE just spent time working on BF3 and not releasing all of these quick sub-par games.
04/11/2010 at 02:41 rocketman71 says:
Meh. The last two were shit and denied us a ton of the features previous games in the series had.
Why in hell would DICE think that we’re going to keep paying more to keep getting less?. Count me out.
If anything, I’d try BF1943. If that even exists. For now, its disappearance only shows how ridiculous EA & DICE have become.
04/11/2010 at 03:15 Tetragrammaton says:
One day, the gaming industry will grow up. One day.
04/11/2010 at 05:19 msarge says:
Indie Games and FPSs are my two main genres of choice as of late, thanks in no small part to RPS. Please continue to coexist.