Launched: The New GFW Marketplace

By Alec Meer on November 15th, 2010 at 7:29 pm.

As revealed the other week, and now actually actual – right over here. There’s not a vast amount of super-recent games on there as yet, but Lego Universe, Dead Rising 2 and 007: Blood Stone are the headliners and suggest a drive to be relatively contemporary. A lot of the existing stuff remains comically expensive, however, which suggests that publishers are either very cautious about this service or Microsoft are still testing the waters. Clue: be cheaper.

There’s an inaugural mega-bargain, at least – GTA IV, sans DLC, for £12. Alas, it has been cheaper on Steam during past ultro-sales and can still be had for less at retail/etail, but if the high street or a wait for the post-person ain’t handy for you it’s certainly cheaper than any other digi-store right this minute. You can also use your Live/Messenger/Hotmail/whatevs id to sign in and buy stuff, which might make it a little easier or more palatable for some folks. Or not. WHO KNOWS?

The roster isn’t, it must be said, especially impressive right now, primarily consisting of stuff that was on the old version of the service, with the addition of a few older Activisoin titles. The two most recent CODs – both requiring Steam – are noticeable by their absence, so I’m not terribly convinced anyone’s gonna rush to pick up World of War right now… Still, it means it genuinely is hosting games free from Games For Windows Live.

Then again the service has just relaunched, so it’s unfair to sneer before its wheels have fully begun to turn. I entirely appreciate that it’s going to take a little while to fill up with the promised wave of Live-less titles. In general, the predominantly web-only interface seems admirably de-cluttered and de-cludged compared to previous incarnations of GFW Marketplace, but forcing people into having a Live account might create some annoyance. Give it a whirl, anyway – seem more appealing than a) before b) other services c) shops?

Update – as Miker cleverly suggests below, GFW also allows (but doesn’t force) you to pay in MS points. And there are quite often offers to buy MS Points discounted, if you keep your ear to the ground, so it’s entirely possible that canny PC gamers could snag bonus price cuts. A potentially effective spanner in the (Steam)works, if the new GFW pulls in enough desirable games over time.

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  1. Miker says:

    I have to say, it looks very slick, but I can’t see myself buying anything that’s not absolutely exclusive from them. That said, with so many retail deals for MS points, I could see myself stockpiling a good amount in order to get cheap games even cheaper.

    EDIT: The prices are pretty awful. The non-GOTY version of Fallout 3 is $50, the non-GOTY edition of Batman: AA is $50 while the GOTY edition is $40. Section 8 is still $50, and Resident Evil 5 is on sale for $30 down from $50. What the hell were they thinking?

    • Alec Meer says:

      Ooh, that’s an interesting point.

    • bloodypalace says:

      Fable 3 will be exclusive to gfwl.

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      Chaz says:

      The prices don’t surprise me to be honest, as the “Games On Demand” service on Xbox Live has pretty awful pricing too, like £20 for a 2-3 year old game you can get second hand for little over £5. It’s hard to know quite what their intentions are at the moment with these services given their current pricing structures.

  2. Nemon says:

    Well, they sure got self-e-Steam *muffled laughter*

  3. Tei says:

    I like the prices.

    http://pastebin.com/38BiYQhD

    The price of Bioshock 2 in Steam is 29,99€
    http://pastebin.com/Gr6Y7zSE

    I am tempted to pay $899.00 for Singularity in GFWL, is Singularity any good?

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      stahlwerk says:

      That’s the Mexican store? Maybe they forgot to put in the Pesos sign? The german store has high, but not ridiculous prices in cold hard €-cash.

    • Tei says:

      Also, the forum has about 200 subforums(I am not kidding http://forums.xbox.com/?xr=shellnav), but not PC section. Aparently the PC is less important to microsoft, than the indie game “ZP2K9″, since that indie game have a subforum, but the PC not.

      Not that I want to use soo crappy forums anyway… I get this:
      http://forums.xbox.com/xweb/lib/errors/unavailable.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/default.aspx

      Also the whole thing ( the GFWL shop, this forum and this site xbox.com) use the http://login.live.com account system, that is soo awnfull and illdesigned, that make AOL looks geeky. The “Close session” button don’t even work to me, enters a loop that return to the same position.

    • Tei says:

      Also, the forum has about 200 subforums(I am not kidding http://forums.xbox.com/?xr=shellnav), but not PC section. Aparently the PC is less important to microsoft, than the indie game “ZP2K9″, since that indie game have a subforum, but the PC not.

      Not that I want to use soo crappy forums anyway… I get this:
      http://forums.xbox.com/xweb/lib/errors/unavailable.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/default.aspx

      Also the whole thing ( the GFWL shop, this forum and this site xbox.com) use the http://login.live.com account system, that is soo awnfull and illdesigned, that make AOL looks geeky. The “Close session” button don’t even work to me, enters a loop that return to the same page.. withouth closing the session.

    • Tei says:

      I have made a movie of me tryiing to close the session on the shop.

      http://zerror.com/zoo/lol.htm

    • Wilson says:

      @Tei – “Also the whole thing ( the GFWL shop, this forum and this site xbox.com) use the http://login.live.com account system, that is soo awnfull and illdesigned, that make AOL looks geeky. The “Close session” button don’t even work to me, enters a loop that return to the same page.. withouth closing the session.”

      Yeah, for me GFWL just brings to mind a clunky interface and endless irritating ‘error’ pop up boxes when trying to do something as basic as log in. Cannot be bothered.

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      Newblade says:

      It’s the Spanish store.

    • battles_atlas says:

      @ Tei

      That logging-out game looks fun, how much was that one?

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      Jp1138 says:

      If you enter from Spain it sends you to the Mexican store, as there is no Spanish one… weird

    • DrGonzo says:

      Weird, in the UK the prices seem reasonable, basically the same as Steam, occasionally a bit cheaper.

      Even weirder the signing in and out of Microsoft websites has always been excellent, signs in automagically, and I get to use my one account across all their sites.

      Oh and Tei, try reading the site a bit better. The Xbox forums are Xbox forums funnily enough, not for PC. Gfwl has it’s own forums -http://forums.gamesforwindows.com/. The sign in issues are mostly due to not reading the instructions on the website. Go and accept the terms and conditions on the Xbox site and then you can sign in correctly, it’s quite dumb, but it is explained in a rather straight forward manner.

  4. noobnob says:

    “Unfortunately your Xbox LIVE account region is not currently supported. Check back with us soon as we continue to add regions.”

    Thanks. No really, thanks.

    EDIT: I’m from Brazil, just to clarify. So they add a more sleek storefront, but forget to open it to the whole world. I can deal with regional restriction on individual games, but not this.

    • Decimae says:

      Funny. I don’t get that from holland, I’m just getting sent through to the EN-US page.

    • Teliach says:

      From Portugal here

      “Your region is not currently supported”

      Releasing a internet store so limited, is kinda dumb lots of people will try to log once, not be able and never bother again when youc an just go to steam, etc…

    • Vayl says:

      “Unfortunately your Xbox LIVE account region is not currently supported. Check back with us soon as we continue to add regions.”

      Very nice service…. this is from Portugal btw, can’t even log.

    • eclipse mattaru says:

      This.

      Until Microsoft figures out how to make this whole internet-and-how-to-access-it-from-anywhere-in-the-world thing work they can suck on my pustulating, fungi-ridden left toenail (Hint: Every other motherfucking digital store in the entire universe already does it, I guess it can’t be THAT hard).

    • CilindroX says:

      Same here, not allowed to access from Uruguay – apparently, my money is no good for MS. Back to Steam I say!

    • Farewell says:

      Visiting the site from Norway sends me to the Canadian version..

    • eclipse mattaru says:

      @CilindroX: Another Uruguayan around these parts? And one that buys original games too? This is madness!

  5. Ignorant Texan says:

    Then again the service has just relaunched, so it’s unfair to sneer before its wheels have fully begun to turn fall off. Sorry, mean of me I know, but I couldn’t resist

    • battles_atlas says:

      On the subject of which, given that the whole point of a re-launch is to prompt people to consider a product afresh, and given that the previous MS Store was a fucking joke, wouldn’t it have been more sensible to re-launch it with a huge catalogue and discounted prices? I mean, I’ve no MBA or anything, but that strikes me as sensible.

      They’ve relaunched a crap product as a crap product.

  6. Deston says:

    Hmmm – reinstall GfWL, or repeatedly stab myself in the thigh with a leaky biro. Decisions, decisions…

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      Thermal Ions says:

      I’d go for the leaky biro. I went to the site, and …
      1. Discovered apparently I now live in the UK instead of Australia.
      2. Selected to change locations and apparently Australia doesn’t exist.
      3. Fine, I’ll log in with my GFWL login then.
      4. Of course this opens another tab with untrusted connection warnings in several frames.
      5. What the hell, log in anyway.
      6. “Updated terms of service” message – you have to go to http://www.xbox.com to accept the new terms
      7. Click the link, another new tab opens
      8. Click “sign in” and another new tab opens (this is getting ridiculous)
      9. Complete sign in details
      10. Accept new T&C’s (not on a new tab – they’re learning)
      11. Go back to http://www.gamesforwindows.com to find my login doesn’t carry over
      12. Click “Sign in” (and a new tab opens for me to sign in on – we’re back on that train again)
      13. Complete login details and finally presented with “Coming soon: Unfortunately your Xbox LIVE account region is not currently supported. Check back with us soon as we continue to add regions.”
      14. Goes looking for leaking biro

      Arrrgggg. Now RPS is telling me I’m posting too quickly, even though my last post was more than a day ago. Goes looking for _rusty_ leaking biro

    • Corrupt_Tiki says:

      Personal preference it may be, I prefer the bang my head repeatedly into my desk approach, it’s super effective if you have a solid oak desk, the ply wood ones are relatively ineffective.

      (god, isn’t there *one* day that I can have that doesn’t involve me thinking about pokemon – I am scarred by my childhood)

  7. Navagon says:

    Their prices are even higher than they were as points. But that might have something to do with me getting the Live point cards cheap.

    So what happens to the points we didn’t spend? I can’t find out as the bloody stupid client won’t login. But then it’s probably doing me a favour…

  8. woot says:

    I hope they’re still selling the Ltd Ed. version of BioShock 2: Lorem Ipsum… :P

    • westyfield says:

      Heh. I was just about to comment on that as well. It seems to have been corrected on the GfWL website now though.

    • Farewell says:

      The description for COD 4 (from 2007) is also amusing (my emphasis):
      The new action thriller from the award-winning team at Infinity Ward Inc., Call of Duty® 4: Modern Warfare™ delivers the most intense and cinematic action experience ever. The epic title also features the added depth of multiplayer action for an all-new community of persistent, addictive, and customizable gameplay.

  9. Shadrach says:

    I think it looks like they stole GOG.com’s design, at least part of it, especially the menu bar :)

  10. Lewie Procter says:

    Want to buy FUEL? http://bit.ly/aWjggc or http://bit.ly/9FyytA or http://bit.ly/cKMpvL which would you pick?

    Also, GTA4 is £11.99 in the UK, but $11.99 in the USA. 60% more expensive in the UK

    At least the MS Points option means you could potentially save money. £17 worth of points can routinely be bought for £15, but it’s only really of use to anyone who already owns an Xbox 360.

    Kind of shows that they are using this service more to push people to buy 360s than to do anything for PC gamers.

    • Irish Al says:

      Unbelievable that they’re trying to knock FUEL out for 35 quid. It wasn’t worth that on day one.

  11. terry says:

    Steam for Windows Live.

  12. Meschio says:

    Steam>GFWL

  13. pkt-zer0 says:

    Am I missing something, or is there basically no way to filter the games by category or price bracket or something of the sort?

    • subedii says:

      You can sort alphabetically, by price or release date, but they don’t appear to have any category listings.

      Well, apart from distinguishing between “LIVE Enabled” titles and “All Games” I suppose.

    • Quxxy says:

      This distinction is very important. It lets you know which games you need to avoid like the plague.

  14. Oneironaut says:

    I was hoping they would sell Dungeon Siege considering Microsoft has the rights to it and won’t sell it anywhere else. It’s the only thing I would have been interested in buying off their service.

  15. Clovis says:

    GFWL is the worst. Just the other day I cleaning up a hard drive and found these huge download files in the GFWL folder on my C drive. I decided to run GFWL to make sure that it was correclty set to put them on my G drive.

    As soon as the login screen came up, I knew something would go wrong. I try to login and get a cryptic error message and something about error code XXXX. Helpfully, the message was a link. When you click on it you basically get a 404 page. Awesome.

    I finally figured out that I had to login from the web first to sign some new EULA for some reason. Even when it comes to the most simple tasks, GFWL fails almost every time.

    (speaking of fail, I keep getting “You are posting too fast” notices, even though this is only my second post in several hours. I’m forced to use IE6 though, so maybe that is the problem.)

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      DarkNoghri says:

      I just got one of those errors, on Firefox no less, and I’m fairly certain I hadn’t posted since late last night.

    • MindFukr says:

      Same thing happened to me (through client). Googled the error code. Oh, the terms have changed (yeah, they could have told that instead of magic numbers). Tried to click the link, page doesn’t exist (I’m sure they’ll fix it eventually). Ok, a bit annoyed, guess I’ll try to manually login. Did that, and was immediately prompted with license terms have changed, please read them and accept.

      But it wasn’t that hard and GFW isn’t the worst thing in the world.

      Although now that I try to enter gamesforwindows.com with Firefox, I get a message:

      Couldn’t sign you out

      We couldn’t sign you out because your browser is blocking cookies. To sign out, close all of your browser windows. To keep this from happening again, change your browser’s settings to allow cookies. If you don’t know how to do that, see your browser’s help.

      So yeah, fuck you Games for Windows, I tried to be your friend ;) (PS. The site worked once with Firefox and even with IE it tells me in BIG RED letters SOMETHING HAS GONE WRONG)

    • MindFukr says:

      Same thing happened to me. Googled the error code. Oh, the terms have changed (yeah, they could have told that instead of magic numbers). Tried to click the link, page doesn’t exist (I’m sure they’ll fix it eventually). Ok, a bit annoyed, guess I’ll try to manually login. Did that, and was immediately prompted with license terms have changed, please read them and accept.

      But it wasn’t that hard and GFW isn’t the worst thing in the world.

      Although now that I try to enter gamesforwindows.com with Firefox, I get a message: Couldn’t sign you out, etc..

      So yeah, damn you Games for Windows, I tried to be your friend ;) (PS. The site worked once with Firefox and even with IE it tells me in BIG RED letters SOMETHING HAS GONE WRONG)

  16. gigantichorseschlong says:

    You would think that they would be selling halo 1. I lost my old copy and really enjoyed the multiplayer far more than any of the sequels but it seems im going to have to stick to the demo…

    • AlexW says:

      Well, Halo 1 isn’t a GfW game, since it came out a while back. Halo 2 is, since it’s actually a GfWL1 game, but it’s unlikely to appear on this service since it really hates modern systems with newer versions of GfWL – it actually required fiddling around in the Windows directory for me, and then a system restore a few restarts later when the system would fail to start. I’d love to see Halo 3 on it, but since they refuse to release the thing on PC that seems increasingly unlikely.

    • subedii says:

      I actually re-installed Halo 2 on my Vista PC a few weeks ago. Didn’t run into any issues installing or running.

      Have there been problems with Windows 7?

    • Matt says:

      There was a major issue with Halo 2 on my Vista x64 system. If halo is rendered at over 60 FPS the mouse look gets very stuttery. If you force V-sync on in the Nividia/ATI driver panel and your monitor is a 60Hz model then that fixes it. I have a 120hz monitor and despite every attempt to set it to 60Hz, once in game it would revert to 120Hz. After a few hours on the web I finally found a program that could limit fps in DX9 games (which Halo 2 seems to be). I also found a nice program that let me increase the very claustrophobic FOV.
      Honestly the FOV issue drives me a bit nuts its set low for console games where the screen tends to take up less of the players FOV and is left that way for the PC port. Letting the user set the FOV is a really easy option to implement but many skip doing it.

      Also the Captcha is using non-standard characters.

    • Rich says:

      ebay for Halo? It’d be second hand, but it’s not like it has limited activations.

    • Rich says:

      Surely ebay will do for Halo. It’s not like it has limited activations.

  17. Mark Raymond says:

    The paying with MS Points thing is potentially interesting to me as an Xbox 360 owner; however, the prices aren’t competitive, and I am not yet convinced that the service will survive long term. The latter issue is pretty big, as I don’t want to be cut off from my purchases a year or two down the line.

  18. Mark Raymond says:

    The paying with MS Points thing is potentially interesting to me as an Xbox 360 owner; however, the prices aren’t competitive, and I am not yet convinced that the service will survive long term. The latter issue is pretty big, as I don’t want to be cut off from my purchases a year or two down the line.

    (Sorry if this comes out as a double post.)

  19. Unaco says:

    Personally, I don’t think I’ll be using this service. I had to remember/set-up a GfWL account when I bought Batman AA Goatee when it was úber-cheap on Steam a few weeks ago. I have since forgotten the username/password (thankfully Batman remembers, and he tells Microsoft what they want to know every time I want to play the game). That isn’t the only reason, of course… prices are looking a little steep, not that many titles (of the type I would consider purchasing), and the software/client/backend etc. probably aren’t the best. But… saying all that, I hope they do get it right. Steam was a POS when I first got it (I still find offline mode is whack)… but now it’s pretty good.

    One day… One day, they’ll maybe get this GfWL right… like Windows 7.

    Also… Don’t see anyone mention this yet… The Daily Deal is GTA IV, but they also appear to have a Deal of the Week… currently Osmos (I think I read a little about it here, is an indie “classic motion puzzle game”) with 75% off, or £1.25… which is, like, half-a-pint!

    Edit: Also, I appear to be getting the “You’re posting too fast” message… I don’t think I’ve commented since Friday or Saturday. If my musings are THAT annoying, and I’m to be limited to 1 a week, some warning would be appreciated… that way I can work on that 1 post and make it the best it can be.

    • Alex says:

      Osmos is excellent. Highly recommended ambient game that gets engagingly difficult.

      I would suggest, however, buying directly from the developer. Granted, it’ll cost you $10 (£6?) but it all goes to the devs and you can play or Mac or Linux if you like.

  20. UncleLou says:

    I don’t get it. The client looks almost the same as before, only there’s a black bar at the top now. And the games seem to be more or less the same as before, too.

    I was expecting a giant relaunch, not a change of the client’s color scheme.

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      DarkNoghri says:

      My understanding is that the big relaunch was for a web store, not a big revamp of the client.

  21. Hypatian says:

    So does this mean that shops will now be boycotting GfWL, since it’s competing with them?

  22. Mac says:

    Riddle me this – how will charging more on their http://bit.ly/d4nYQH website will it encourage customers to use it?

    There isn;t a game on their that isn’t cheaper elsewhere…

  23. Paul says:

    As Fuel would say:

    Try harder, or fail forever, MS!

    This is still hilariously bad, like it has always been.It is amazing how clueless MS is.

  24. Mac says:

    Riddle me this – how will charging more on their website will it encourage customers to use it?

    There isn’t a game on their that isn’t cheaper elsewhere…

  25. Freud says:

    It’s like they have zero understanding of how the market works. Digital distribution is about offering consumers good deals and there are none to be found there. Not even worth bothering with bookmarking this.

  26. Atic Atac says:

    What this site does best is really underline how better Steam, Gog, Impulse and Gamersgate are than this. Please spend your money there because all are good services. I don’t understand also why people are always slamming steam? The reason we all buy from them is because they are the best service really. Good servers, community features, crazy deals, huge library and automatic updates? …Yes please.

    Also 39.99$ for Age of Empires 3? Puhleeez Microsoft…get over yourself!!!

  27. quijote3000 says:

    I tried. OK, ¡I tried! I gave Microsoft the benefit of the doubt.

    I didn’t mind that firefox warned me that their page was not supported
    I didn’t mind going to the XBOX page because they had updated some kind of text I never signed up in the first place (well, I did)

    But: “Unfortunately your Xbox LIVE account region is not currently supported. Check back with us soon as we continue to add regions.”

    So, anyway. For digital downloads i’m going back to steam, direct2drive, impulse, gog, gamersgate… I mean, I’m going back to every single digital system in existence that actually cares for my money and doesn’t give me any pain.

  28. quijote3000 says:

    Ok, Let’s try…
    I tried. OK, ¡I tried! I gave Microsoft the benefit of the doubt.

    I didn’t mind that firefox warned me that their page was not supported
    I didn’t mind going to the XBOX page because they had updated some kind of text I never signed up in the first place (well, I did)

    But: “Unfortunately your Xbox LIVE account region is not currently supported. Check back with us soon as we continue to add regions.”

    So, anyway. For digital downloads i’m going back to steam, direct2drive, impulse, gog, gamersgate… I mean, I’m going back to every single digital system in existence that actually cares for my money and doesn’t give me any pain.

  29. EALouise says:

    Can you re-download games, or install them to multiple computers? I think that’s one of the most important features that Steam has.

  30. LordCiego says:

    Random crashing, unable to install a game you just downloaded because of error Code:0x8007000d and having to download it again, shitty prices…

    Keep trying Microsoft.

  31. Mut says:

    Microsoft once again demonstrates how utterly clueless they are when it comes to PC gaming. Oh, well.

  32. JohnnyMaverik says:

    Will somebody get this over with already and just kill it with fire =/

  33. Longrat says:

    Sorry Microsoft, this is one area in which your towering monopoly can’t win!

    • Robbie G says:

      Really?

      http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/66318

      Especially this part is disturbing:

      Danny Bilson: It’s been easier for development [moving to Steamworks], so far, but Microsoft is really talking to me a lot about getting back on Games for Windows Live. So, it’s not something I want to comment on because there are a lot of discussions going on about that right now. I like both platforms and I really, really, really like Microsoft as a partner. They’re fantastic partners. I want to respect them.

    • kjr says:

      That really worries me. There may be some great games in the next few years that I would need gfwl to play, not because they provide good value, or a good service, but purely because MS has paid the publisher for an exclusive…

  34. Atic Atac says:

    …and they still don’t sell Rise of Nations, Crimson Skies or Freelancer.

    Also Age of Empires III 40 bucks?…Lulz, get over yourself Microsoft!

    I so hate Microsoft’s PC gaming division because there are some great games there that aren’t on Steam or Gog!

  35. Atic Atac says:

    …and they still don’t sell Rise of Nations, Crimson Skies or Freelancer.

  36. Wowza says:

    It’s funny how very of the comments are ignoring how Osmos is also on sale for $2.49.

  37. Wowza says:

    It’s funny how few of the comments are mentioning how Osmos is also on sale for $2.49.

  38. Teliach says:

    My Region is not currently supported, awesome!

  39. Camerooni says:

    Yay.. thanks Microsoft for relegating everyone that is not in your ‘5 supported’ countries as incapable of purchase (not that we necessarily would).. Just sell to ‘International’ from the US store in US dollars.. Australia has a free trade agreement with the states – sell us stuff.. :p

    The digital world and it’s insistence on regional restrictions is very disappointing.. It’s all a ‘global economy now’ when big business wants to remove corporate taxes/import duties/maximise profits etc, but when consumers want to do the same thing and shop around for the best bargain it’s their way or nothing. Especially since they won’t setup local operations anyway and just charge us out of Singapore – adding additional ‘international transaction’ fees even though we’re purchasing in local currency and there is no warning before/during the point of sale.

    P.S still waiting for Xbox Live Indie Games fella’s.

  40. CreepingDeath says:

    Amazon is currently beating gfwl’s launch deal

    GTA4 – 9.99
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001EO74NW?ie=UTF8&tag=pa0a-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=B001EO74NW

    Sooo….yea, sucks for Microsoft

  41. subedii says:

    Wait, if they’re boycotting titles that require Steam, then why’s Dawn of War 2 on there?

    Or Chaos Rising for that matter?

    • Warduke says:

      Because THQ is going back to GFWL and away from Steam apparently as part of a deal with M$.

    • Vinraith says:

      Because they can’t very well boycott games that include GfWL?

    • subedii says:

      Fair point, I guess they can’t disown family. :P

      @ Warduke:

      All THQ ever said was that MS is contacting them to try and get them to come back to GFWL, and that they have respect for Microsoft. THQ had just as much “respect” for MS when Relic made the decision to drop GFWL from Retribution, and not use in Space Marine. By this stage even if they wanted to, it’s probably far too late to switch back.

      The problem, is that regardless of how much Microsoft may try to talk them back into using the service again, nothing has fundamentally changed with the system to address all the issues that made Relic drop it in the first place. It wasn’t a light decision to take, and I can’t see any change in context between then and now that would make Relic reverse it.

  42. StingingVelvet says:

    I really thought they might re-launch with a blockbuster new lineup and some exclusives, along with a much improved service, but no, they did none of this. Microsoft could really compete with Steam if they bothered to give even half their potential effort, but I guess they still don’t see the point.

  43. jalf says:

    They’re joking, right? This is just awful.

    And now I’m going to have to spend the next hour uploading screenshots and writing an angry blog post about it… *Sigh*

  44. sneetch says:

    Delight to report that they appear to have withdrawn support from Ireland with this relaunch. I used to be able to use Games for Windows Live but now I can’t.

    For some reason I’m not exactly devastated.

  45. sneetch says:

    Well, let’s hope this one gets past RPS’s over-eager sentries.

    Well, without either surprise or disappointment I note that with this relaunch they seem to have removed Ireland as a supported country. I could use it before but no longer.

    No big tragedy really, it’s not like I’m missing much is it?

    Did just buy another game on Steam though, just saying Microsoft.

    Edit: Oh great, now I look like it’s a big deal for me, damn you to hell Spamotron! Damn you!

  46. castle says:

    Wow, they’re really missing an opportunity here by not launching with a big set of sales. Looks like all the games are at or above normal pricing, with the exception of a few weak sales (40% off GTA4? Really?). If they want to draw in new customers from the other download services, the best way to do that is to launch with a bang–give people a deal they can’t refuse to get them to jump onto your boat. As it is, what motivation would anyone have for using GFWL at this point?

  47. dr.castle says:

    My comment got eaten by the spam-whatsit on the first try. Sorry if this appears twice.

    Wow, they’re really missing an opportunity here by not launching with a big set of sales. Looks like all the games are at or above normal pricing, with the exception of a few weak sales (40% off GTA4? Really?). If they want to draw in new customers from the other download services, the best way to do that is to launch with a bang–give people a deal they can’t refuse to get them to jump onto your boat. As it is, what motivation would anyone have for using GFWL at this point?

  48. DJ Phantoon says:

    This is worse PR than Bill Gates getting caught blowing up a small African village and justifying his actions by yelling, “I PAID FOR IT! I PAID FOR IT, DAMNIT!”

    Spamotron won’t let me post. This is not an upgrade, RPS. Well actually, I guess in Microsoft’s case, it basically is the same type they do.

  49. FKD says:

    Does anyone happen to know why they never seem to offer the earlier Age of Empires games for d/l? That was the whole reason I got the last (crappy) version of GFWL because I was hoping those would be there :/

    I have already bought the games once, and since they have been in storage for the past three years with no ETA on when I will see them again, I am willing to buy them again because they were that good! Especially AoM..