Deus Ex For Less Than A Daily Paper*

By John Walker on December 3rd, 2010 at 4:45 pm.

I've bought meat for less.

Can there really be someone who hasn’t played Deus Ex yet? Surely not. But just in case, or just in case your copy has exploded, you can pick it up today from Games For Windows Marketplace for 75p. For today only. SEVENTY FIVE PENCE. What on Earth is going on? If you dropped that much money out of your helicopter you’d not bother to land to pick it up! If you’re American you’re paying 99 of your “cents”. (Interesting fact: this doesn’t derive from the Latin for 100, but in fact directly from the word “centaur”. When the dollar was first created it was based on the value of one hundred centaurs, clearly hugely depreciating since.) Just bloody buy it, you idiots.

*Unless the paper you read is worth less than 75p, in which case, stop it.

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  1. ZIGS says:

    I’d buy that for a dollar!

    • strange headache says:

      I concur, that’s way too cheap and we all know, cheap things can’t be good ;)

    • Casimir's Blake says:

      Nah, still not worth it.

      It’s a clunky, overrated and unsatisfying experience nowadays. Having already bought and sold the game, I certainly wouldn’t even pay this to own it again. What’s the point? To say that I own it? What a waste of time, money, hard disk space or even DVD-Rs.

      And John, seriously, you’re just encouraging Alec to call us all idiots again. It just makes RPS look like a bunch of second-rate journalists with axes to grind.

    • Bret says:

      Alec has failed in his calling, so I’ll call you an idiot for not liking Deus Ex.

      Boo.

      Like Deus Ex more.

    • Thants says:

      “And John, seriously, you’re just encouraging Alec to call us all idiots again. It just makes RPS look like a bunch of second-rate journalists with axes to grind.”

      OR, a games blog with a casual tone where the writers trust that the audience can recognize a joke.

    • Casimir's Blake says:

      Or simply perhaps you all need to grow up and realise that people are entitled to dislike and not want to purchase a game. Even if it’s Deus Ex, which I will forever maintain does NOT deserve its reputation.

    • luminosity says:

      Wait, and Casimir is the one accusing others of axes to grind? Dude, let it go. It was a joke. You don’t like it. Life goes on!

    • Thants says:

      Is it really worth getting all defensive over a bit of comic exaggeration?

    • strange headache says:

      Wait, what? Come on! I really like the casual tone on here because we all know that it’s in good fun. Also “second-rate journalists”, are you fucking kidding me? I mean, these guys just scored an interview with Terry Gilliam and let Gareth Campesinos review a frikken’ football game. I mean, there is so much quality content on this website that your assumptions are just plain ridiculous.

      I dunno, but maybe you should just relax a little.

    • Deoden says:

      @ Casimir’s Blake

      Stop it. You’ve been banging on about Alec’s throwaway comment for over a week now and I think I can say everyone here is sick of it. You had a problem with what he said? Fine, mention it in that post’s comments thread (which you did) and move on with your life. To keep dragging it up in every sodding thread you post in just makes you look humourless and petty beyond belief.

      Oh, and calling RPS “second-rate journalists”? They are way too professional to rise to your bait, but I’m not, so here goes:

      Fuck you. Fuck you a thousand times over you misanthropic little turd. Who the hell do you think you are to decry the collective decades of experience amassed by the writers here? We are lucky enough to have arguably the four greatest writers in games journalism entertaining us on a daily basis, for free, and you think you get to judge them because of a single , “top-of-the-head-blatant-joke-don’t-take-it-seriously” sentence? In a news post that was never anything more than a simple heads-up for us readers?

      Idiot.

    • TimA says:

      @Deoden

      I love you. Thank you for expressing in words what I feel, for I have not that ability. I feel some sort of relief from how wound-up this person has made me feel.

    • Nick says:

      Ah, you are the sort of person that says the Beatles are overrated then throw a hissy fit when people point out you are an idiot. You are entitled not to like it, but you are decrying the opinion of everyone else when you go on about how undeserving it is of the praise it gets, which is amusing since you cry about how precious your own opinion is. Get over yourself.

    • Rich says:

      I believe the phrase “you got served” would be appropriate in this situation.

    • Archonsod says:

      “Or simply perhaps you all need to grow up and realise that people are entitled to dislike and not want to purchase a game”

      Actually the UN revoked that specific right for anyone who dislikes Deus Ex two years ago.

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  2. Brumisator says:

    Well I would buy it, but GFWL is just a broken piece of filth, and it won’t let me.

    • oceanclub says:

      Me too; very annoyed that I couldn’t buy Age of Empires III. When a digital download service stops you from spending _10 pence_ on a game, it’s screwed.

    • DrGonzo says:

      What’s going wrong exactly? I had a few problems that I fixed so I may be able to assist you.

    • Ricc says:

      One big problem is that they currently don’t support all regions, like certain parts of Europe. I’m living in Austria and I can’t buy games from the GFWL website. This is somehow separate from the GFWL client, which in an incredibly backwards move somehow does sell games to me.

      Luckily Steam has had Deus Ex on sale multiple times, lately.

    • frymaster says:

      GFWL is not involved. It’s not a GFWL game.

    • Delusibeta says:

      Unfortunitely, GfWL’s region restrictions apply equally to GfW’s Marketplace. Stooooopid.

      The client used to be called Games for Windows Live, which may be the source of confusion.

  3. Moth Bones says:

    I’ve never played it. I’d buy it, but GFWL gives me a headache.

    • frymaster says:

      am I in some sort of parallel universe? Deus Ex vastly predates GFWL, and they haven’t updated it for the GFW marketplace. GFWL is not involved in any way, shape, or form.

    • Ringwraith says:

      You’re living the correct universe, yes Deus Ex predates GFWL, so it’s not involved in running the game at all. Though you have to buy it from the GFWL marketplace, even though once it finally manages to install it for you it’ll run without any fiddly DRM stuff. GFWL or otherwise.

  4. phlebas says:

    Getting out of your helicopter to pick up that 75 pence could save your life.

  5. Christopher M. says:

    I support MSGFWL insofar (and no farther!) as they keep giving me cheap games. But I have this cheap game already, so…

  6. oceanclub says:

    According to Twitter, the next game on sale is Shadowrun for only 99c (not sure what the UK/EU price will be, or indeed if they are onsale in those regions). For 99c, I really would take a punt with that game but as mentioned already, I can’t buy anything on it. Bah.

    • Man Raised By Puffins says:

      It’s 75p.

    • DrGonzo says:

      Do people still play it? I remember really enjoying the demo a long time ago. But even at 75p its a complete waste if there are no servers.

    • devlocke says:

      Is it playable at all, singleplayer? With bots or anything? I was so ridiculously excited when I heard Shadowrun was being developed because I love the Shadowrun universe, and then they announced it was a competitive multiplayer thing, so I was crestfallen and destroyed. For a buck, I’d buy it just to play around with locally so I can see what they did with it, if that’s possible.

    • Blather Blob says:

      @devlocke: Checking the ~$0.99 boxed copy I picked up a while ago, installed, and never played, it supports running locally for training (which will probably be enough to cover finding out what the game’s about), bot matches, or a local server with bots. It’s GFWL, but you can run it in “offline” mode and still hit those portions of it. No idea if anyone still plays it online, since I’m not going to go through logging into the GFWL client. Oh, and it’s from the beginning of adding xbox360 controller support, before they started allowing you to still use the mouse and keyboard when you have a controller plugged in.

    • Thants says:

      Speaking of Shadowrun, I always though it would make a great “Immersive Sim” game, like Deus Ex or Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines. Like the old Genesis Shadowrun game but more-so, and first person.

    • noom says:

      Hell, we just need more cyberpunk RPGs period.

    • Nick says:

      Wish they’d made a sequel to the Snes Shadowrun game, that was utterly brilliant. And the music.. wonderful.

    • dadioflex says:

      I’m now in the semi-ridiculous situation of looking at a game on offer for 75p and thinking, naw it’s still too much. No Shadowrun for me, but this looks like a sale worth following. Microsoft often takes a while to get things right. Maybe they’ll get PC games right once they realise how many people are prepared to pay for them online if you make the experience relatively painless.

      Oh and Guardians of Graxia is the daily deal on Impulse right now for under a fiver.

  7. Tusque d'Ivoire says:

    I don’t think anyone who has steam doesn’t have deus ex yet. and anyone who doesn’t have steam, is unlikely to install the numerous gfwl software to get this game alone. I was tempted at AOEIII, but couldn’t be bothered on account of it not supporting paypal and me not owning a compatible credit card.

    I own it from one of the many steam sales, but have not yet played Deus Ex, ever. And right now I’m just catching up on the Stalker series.

  8. Masked Dave says:

    Not a fan on the i then John?

  9. JohnnyMaverik says:

    GFWL = LOL… no -_-

  10. jalf says:

    Oh wow. They updated their web store. Now it doesn’t just say “coming soon”. They’ve added a paragraph telling me I can still buy their games through the client.

    What……. the….. eff…. There are clearly, obviously, no legal or licensing restrictions preventing them from selling games in my region. They’ve clearly, obviously, got a functioning store implemented in their browser. And yet they don’t want me to use it.

  11. Vandelay says:

    What a shame.

    Did I do it right?

  12. Malawi Frontier Guard says:

    So, what if you dropped the 75p individually in coins out of your helicopter? Would that make you chase after them in a parachute? And then land.

  13. Crusoe says:

    Every time you mention Deus Ex, at least one person reinstalls it.

    This time that person is me.

  14. Evil Otto says:

    I got it on steam already during the last sale. It’s genuinely good though. It’s still relevant today, unlike games like Riven or Half-Life.

    • Skull says:

      Eh? What? Half-Life not being relevant today? It sets a standard for the traditional FPS that has yet been matched. I would go as far to say that it is nearly as good as its sequal. I have played Half Life about 8-9 times and I still dont get bored of it (I do usually turn it off before the closing levels though). Give me Half Life over Singularity or even Bioshock any day. I completly agree that Deus Ex is a game that other games could look back and learn from but I feel not even Deus Ex 3 will be able to match the mechanics of the first.

    • Fergus says:

      Yeah, you ragged on Half-Life, and you’re going to get attacked by hoards of ravaging fanboys now. :-P

      But you do have to remember that before HL1, the concept of an FPS actually having a story that wasn’t shown via cutscenes was a bit of an oddity. Everyone’s doing it now, but Half-Life was the first to make it catch on, so it’s still majorly significant.

    • Access says:

      Personally, I much preferred Half-Life to Half-Life two. It might just be the Source engine, though; just not a very satisfying engine for shooteys, in my opinion. Everything just feels less than kinetic.

    • Evil Otto says:

      Oh, wait. That’s not what I meant to say.

      What I meant to say is that Deus Ex hasn’t been copied a million times and was done better in the process like Half-Life. Half-Life was a masterpiece and redefined the FPS. But coming from HL2, I found it to be mind-numbingly boring. Because I have played games that did what Half-Life did, only better. That’s why HL is not relevant today(in my opinion).

      @Acces yes, the shootouts of HL1 were a lot better. The AI was better, the guns were better(and more varied) and there was a good feeling of impact. HL2 didn’t have this, but didn’t need it, as it was more of an Adventure game than a straight-up shooter.

    • DrGonzo says:

      Strange, I don’t think I’ve played a game that improved on Half Lifes formula yet. The second one, while excellent, was no where near as atmospheric or immersive, and if you play it again now it relies too heavily on its physics(bloody see-saw puzzles!). I would say it’s one of the few games that are *almost* as good as I remember. Deus Ex, which I also adore, is nigh on impossible to play now if you didn’t previously.

    • Waltorious says:

      @DrGonzo,

      I must disagree that Deus Ex is nearly impossible to play if you didn’t previously. I just played it for the first time this year, and it was the best game I’ve ever played. Yes, I know everyone says that, and I was ready to be disappointed, but I wasn’t. Sure, there’s some low-res textures in there, but it’s extremely easy to get it going in full HD widescreen and runs without any problems. And the gameplay sitll holds up.

      Of course, I’ve played and been a fan of many older games, so it could just be that I’m used to this KIND of game. But I would still recommend anyone who hasn’t played Deus Ex before to give it a shot. I think you’ll find it’s far more fun and rewarding than any other shooters out there.

    • Bret says:

      Bugs the heck out of me when people say HL1 had better AI.

      Ever played Minerva? Give the combine room to move and they flank, attack while you reload, look for better firepower, try to figure out when you’ll reload, search for you with patrols, everything you could want.

      Those guys are smart. Just they don’t have as much HP as Marines, so they don’t get to show off as much.

    • Jesus says:

      Interestingly enough, coming from HL1 to HL2, I found HL2 mind-numbingly boring, and to this day I cannot say (wow rhymes) that I play too many games that improved on HL1 concept…
      HL1 has soul.

    • etho says:

      I’ll agree with you on that one. Deus Ex and Half-Life are both games that I missed during their peak relevance, so I would hear people going on about how wonderful they were, but not know for myself. I have since played both games, and Half-Life, while not bad per se, seems to get quite enhanced with the presence of nostalgia. Deus Ex, in my experience did more things that still seem different and interesting today.

      So, yeah, Half-Life did some things brilliantly and established concepts that have been very influential, but ultimately, all the things it did well have long since been surpassed by other games. True, those games might not exist if not for Half-Life, but influential and relevant are very different things.

      On the other hand, Deus Ex did some amazing things that have yet to be significantly improved upon. I think Deus Ex still has lessons to teach about game design, and in my mind, that makes it more relevant.

    • Urael says:

      Wow, the last time I posted my opinion that HL1 was the far superior game to HL2 I was set upon by hordes of aggreived HL2 fans. Here, nary an objection in sight. Could it be that self-evident truth has silenced all doubters?

    • Harlander says:

      Or is it just that everyone’s calmed down about it by now and realised that you’re entitled to your own opinion?

    • Archonsod says:

      “Half-Life not being relevant today?”

      People still play corridor shooters?

      Are they stuck in a timewarp that traps them in the 1990′s, or are they console owners?

  15. MrEvilGuy says:

    I can do so many better things with a dollar than play a random shitty game I’ve never played before

  16. Mort says:

    Holy cow, GFWL Hell. I wanted to buy it, I sincerely did. Then I got trapped in an endless cycle of ‘please sign up for an xbox live account,’ clicking the little login button in the corner, signing in, and getting redirected back to the ‘please sign up for an xbox live account’ page. This is after initially signing up for an xbox live account, of course.
    And now, me being the one person on the planet who still hasn’t played Deus Ex, I will continue to have not played it.

  17. Alaric says:

    I will not buy from GFWL.
    I will not take things for free from GFWL.
    I will not accept things from GFWL even if they pay me.

    Fuck GFWL.

    • Man Raised By Puffins says:

      I will not use GFWL in the rain.
      I will not use GFWL on a train.
      Not in the dark! Not in a tree!
      Not in a car! You let me be!
      I do not like GFWL in a box.
      I do not like GFWL with a fox.
      I will not use GFWL in a house.
      I do not like GFWL with a mouse.
      I do not like GFWL here or there.
      I do not like GFWL ANYWHERE!

      I do not like GFWL!
      I do not like it, Sam-I-am.

    • outoffeelinsobad says:

      and now the great Bill Gates — that marvelous he –
      is king of the mud, that is all he can see

    • briktal says:

      In the end, he tried green eggs and ham and liked it.

  18. Flint says:

    Not buying it cause of GFWL.

    Naw just kidding, the real reason I’m not buying it cause I’ve already got two copies of it!

  19. Unaco says:

    People still pay for papers? What do you people use the Internet for?

  20. Caleb367 says:

    Not getting it, mainly ’cause I already have a copy – and I’ve played it so many many times i gave it a try this spring, after many many years from the last playthrough, and i could still navigate the freaking Liberty Island map by heart.
    Besides, I don’t know if Live’s involved with this, trouble’s actually Windows Marketplace. Which is, mind you, a fine example of carefully planned, polished, perfectly developed, shiny log of turd in software form.

  21. EthZee says:

    Huh. I got Deus Ex for about £1.50 a couple of years ago, second hand. In a box. Crazy.

  22. Doug F says:

    I have no sense of humour, and am totally a musician.

    As such, I take offense at being called an idiot for not buying a game that I wouldn’t have time to play because I’m too busy recording musical albums.

  23. rocketman71 says:

    But.. the daily paper won’t destroy my computer!.

    Promoting anything on GFWL is sadistic

  24. Zeus says:

    If this is the same version of Deus Ex: GotY that Square Enix supplied Steam, it has a problem with one of the maps being outdated. There’s a post on the Steam forums where a user supplied the *actual* map, which keeps the game from glitching/blocking you out of an area.

    http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14647025&postcount=40

  25. orangedragon10 says:

    I am embarrassed to say that I initially played the game years and years ago and never even got off liberty island. Decided to give it another whirl when a kind person gifted it to me on Steam. Wow, this game is seriously awesome. I’m now 13 hours in and fairly addicted.

    Why aren’t there more fps-rpg hybrids around?

    • DrGonzo says:

      If you have a 360 get The Darkness. It has a similar RPG FPS feel, though the shooting mechanic is far more satisfying.

    • Nick says:

      Also try Vampire: Bloodlines if you haven’t already.

    • THEAlmightyRadish, uh , RADOK says:

      @ Dr. Gonzo

      Well, the shooter part of the Darkness is maybe a little better but it completely lacks the character development. The story on the other hand is presented nicely.
      While I think The Darkness is a (very) good game I also think it doesn’t fit into the same category with Deus Ex – not even nearly.

      On the other hand – you can’t rip out hearts in Deus Ex :D

  26. Fergus says:

    I’m going to level with everyone and say that I got as far as the “stealth training” part of Deus Ex (so about 10 minutes in), got frustrated at not being able to accomplish the stealth training due to my own ineptitude, and never picked it up again.

    My loss, probably.

    • Sinomatic says:

      Honestly, that goddamn stealth training room is the worst bit in the game (at least for enforced-stealth haters like me). Push on past it if you can, its worth it.

    • Thants says:

      You don’t have to do the training part at all.

    • Casimir's Blake says:

      Even if you push on past it, the clunky mouse and UI, and the spotty level design will show themselves in pretty short order. And the rubbish stealth system. Just go and play System Shock 2 instead, you’re better off.

    • Waltorious says:

      @ Casimir’s Blake:

      Not sure what you mean by the clunky mouse and UI; it didn’t bother me. And I actually liked the level design, even if there are some obviously “game” aspects to it such as keys and passwords being left lying around, and convenient ducts and such to sneak through. But didn’t System Shock 2 have those as well? As for the stealth system, people rag on it a lot but I found it was fine once I figured out how to use it. Unlike Thief, it’s more based on lines of sight and less on shadows. Once I got the hang of it I was sneaking everywhere, with an occasional sniping to even the odds.

      Also, while System Shock 2 is great (but not quite as good as Deus Ex in my opinion), it’s much harder to buy, whereas Deus Ex is sold in many places for not too much money.

    • Bret says:

      Ignore him.

      He probably hates Christmas too.

      The enforced stealth room is probably the worst bit, yeah, and Liberty Island can be a pain the first time through, but eventually everything clicks, the possibilities open up, and you’ll find one of the best games ever.

      Just ignore the swimming. It isn’t worth it.

    • MD says:

      I didn’t like the training or the first level, but I plugged away and ended up falling in love. It’s worth giving it an hour or two, because if it does click for you the reward will be huge. (If you find the training really off-putting though, you don’t need to bother with it — just go straight to the game proper.)

    • THEAlmightyRadish, uh , RADOK says:

      @ Casimir’s Blake

      Somebody else already told you what an idiot you are so I skip that part and get straight to the point.

      That you prefer Deus Ex II – one of the biggest disappointments in gaming history – over Deus Ex says everything I never wanted to jnow about you. You really ARE an idiot – a tasteless one.

    • THEAlmightyRadish, uh , RADOK says:

      OKOK – I AM the idiot.

      Serves me right for replying to comments brfore hasving the first coffee. Mea culpa. And I apologize.

      On the other hand – Deus Ex is better than even System Shock II. But you need a microscope to see it :P

  27. Hensler says:

    Huh, I just started replaying Project Snowblind, Deus Ex’s strange mutant stepdaughter. Anyways…

    I haven’t played Deus Ex since the month is was released – any good mods been developed since then?

    And while we’re at it, did any of the mods that were going to “fix” Invisible War ever go anywhere? I didn’t hate that game as much as most people did, but it would be nice to see what the community made of it.

  28. sd3489fjeurhrhrhr says:

    So, is anyone else getting a message about the price being different when they go to buy it?

  29. The Pink Ninja says:

    Huh, how rare: Reinstalled it this morning, just quit playing the nameless Mod and now here is everyone talking about Deus Ex

    I think it’s aged very well since there really is no other game like it barring the broken Vampire Bloodline.

  30. Axeman89 says:

    Well, that goes to figure. I wait for years, get Deus Ex for $2.50, and it comes out for under a dollar the next week!

  31. Cecil says:

    Now I feel silly, due to never having bought this game. Ever. Despite my Steam love affair.

  32. Stellar Duck says:

    If anyone is having problems buying if from GFWL, getting screwed by region lock or whatever, I have 3 copies of Deus Ex on Steam. I bought the hillariously cheap 8-pack in the recent sale.

    So if anyone want to play the game let me know so we can figure something out. It goes for the favourable price of free. Unless this is spam or advertisement. In which case I’m sorry.

  33. bobdisgea says:

    ive never played Deus Ex. i own it. i have for months. but its so deep in my backlog…

  34. a.simons613 says:

    When I checkout it says “The price of one or more items in your cart has changed since it was added.”
    hm. Too bad. I guess I’ll spend my $0.99 elsewhere.

  35. Frankie The Patrician[PF] says:

    GFWLGOD SMELLS.
    And Microsoft can go screw themselves for STILL not support the Czech Rep.

  36. DMJ says:

    I sign in, hoping to see the new “PC focus” in effect.

    “We have updated our terms of use. Please sign out, go to the XBox Live site and sign in to XBox Live. Review the terms and conditions, then accept them. Then sign out of that and sign back into Games for Windows Live.”

    I love how easy they make it.

  37. Geth says:

    Bought this earlier, thought I would give the new GFWL client a go. Payment and download went fine and the game seems to run outside of the GFWL client after an online activation.

    Happy days

  38. Scharmers says:

    Somebody already mentioned it (twice) but even if you’ve beaten the crap out of Deus Ex multiple times, just being able to play The Nameless Mod is worth far more than 75 quatloos or whatever it costs there on the other side of The Big Undrinkable.

  39. Carra says:

    Still sitting in my Steam library to play one day.

    • Malawi Frontier Guard says:

      I see you are still in the “I will play this one day, but not now” phase of Steam-addiction.

    • Carra says:

      I’m currently sitting at 191 games. No way that I’m going to ever play them all.

      But who can say no to those bargains? Must be how a woman feels when she walks into a shoe shop during the sales period.

    • sd3489fjeurhrhrhr says:

      I have the same problem. I’m sitting on like 100 unplayed games in my Steam account. :(

    • Tusque d'Ivoire says:

      I’m in that phase, too.

      Well, actually I’m beyond it. I’m starting to think: Hmm maybe I’ll play this game later or maybe I’ll just “lend” my steam account to a friend for a while sometime so he can catch up on what he missed the past years… Maybe that’s phase ][

      does anyone know how valve would look upon such undertaking? meaning how careful would i have to be… ^^

    • noobnob says:

      To me, it’s more of a “buying games that I can’t even play” phase. So, I have enough money to buy some games every few months on some crazy sale, but not enough to actually buy the hardware to play them.

      Such a conundrum…

  40. Inglourious Badger says:

    Well, I’ve already paid for this game 3 times: once in it’s original form (after taking a week to download the demo on a 56k modem and loving every second of it), once in the game of the year edition after my original disc stopped working and I simply had to replay it for a fourth time, and once because it was on steam and I slightly have an obsession with owning everything on steam.

    Paying a fourth time, no matter how cheap it is, is absolute nonsense. Yet why am I temptedto buy it again after this article?

    Stop tempting me!

  41. Dhatz says:

    ROFL i just finished downloading and installing DX from latest torrent, it had additional texture, rendering and compatibility mods + huge collection of mods altering the gameplay. This kind of things cannot be bough.

  42. Melf_Himself says:

    I have devised a new metric to quantify how much I dislike the Microsoft GfW service. The metric is as follows:

    How much more money would I be willing to pay to just buy the thing on Steam instead?

    In this case, I would have to say, about 10 times the value of the item in question.

  43. Tusque d'Ivoire says:

    While we’re at pre-bargain bucket deal breaking, i just saw Mass Effect 2 (Digital Deluxe) on Impulse. Could one maybe even compare these two games?

    Alas, I’m geographically prevented from getting that even though it’s supposed to be deluxedly digital and on the internet

    • Inglourious Badger says:

      Yes, one could compare them: Deus Ex is 2 and a half times better than Mass Effect 2, it is proven by science. I think the point is if you don’t already own Deus Ex you’ve got to try it, it’s available for the price of a sandwich on a lot of sites/retailers even if you can’t take advantage of this deal

    • THEAlmightyRadish, uh , RADOK says:

      Against public opinion Mass Effect II is completely overrated – especially compared to it’s predecessor.
      They dumbed EVERYTHING down – it’s just a shadow of it’s former self. Oh, and the end boss is a joke :D It was at least as big a disappointment as Deus Ex II was.

      And moreover ME II is a dumbed down Action RPG while Deus Ex is a shooter with (a lot of) RPG elements.

    • Nick says:

      the end boss was from super probotector/contra 3.

  44. Fenchurch says:

    Number one, that’s terror.

    Number tw *Bzzzt!*

    Well done, JC!

  45. teo says:

    Sure, you’re entitled to being wrong, but you’re still wrong. You’re going to have about as much luck trying to argue Casablanca is a bad movie as you are arguing that Deus Ex doesn’t deserve its reputation. Yes the game is clunky by today’s standards, that’s kind of irrelevant

    • Kid A says:

      Casablanca sucks though.

    • etho says:

      Yeah, Casablanca is way overrated. It can’t hold a candle to Citizen Kane.

      And the first person to say that Citizen Kane is boring, I hold a (cyber) candle to your (virtual) ball sack. That is a filthy lie.

    • Bret says:

      Both of you are horrible, broken people, and I can feel nothing for you but pity, no matter how hard I try.

    • mlaskus says:

      Casablanca is great.

    • THEAlmightyRadish, uh , RADOK says:

      Yes, Casablanca is great.

      And so is Citizen Kane – although I honestly can’t figure out why the hell somebody can jump to Citizen Kane when Casablanca is mentioned. Only thing those movies have in common is they’re both black and white. And, well, they’re both movies :D

  46. thebigJ_A says:

    Aw, man. I missed it.

    I’m trying to play all the old RPGs I never played. I’m in the middle of my first time w/ Planescape Torment. Which is great. Now I find out that I just missed the chance to finally play Deus Ex for a buck. Crud.

    • The Tupper says:

      I’ve got Baldur’s Gate 2 (plus expansions) glaring at me from the shelf. I feel a genuine sense of guilt for not having played it yet.

    • MrEvilGuy says:

      As you should, Tupper.

      Those games are fulfilling to the soul.

    • THEAlmightyRadish, uh , RADOK says:

      Although I really liked Baldur’s Gate I & II by release time I can’t be arsed to play them today. I never get far before I’m bored. I tried a few times. Probably it’s the typical fantasy setting that bores me, not the game(s) it/themselve(s).

      Planescape Torment on the other hand – oh yeah. I loved the game when it was released and I still do. And I play it at least every two years. And since I can play it wide-screen I guess I’ll switch to playing it once a year :D

    • thebigJ_A says:

      Now, Planescape had several mods (found out about from the friendly GoG mod guide) to make it more playable with modern comps, as well as fixing things and putting in cut content. I’m quite surprised at how good a ten year old game looks (w/ the HD mod). The art is fantastic. They made a bleak, surreal world somehow beautiful.

      Sadly, Deus Ex isn’t on GoG. Are there any mods like that for DE? I mean, mods that modernize the game/fix bugs/restore content the designers intended, NOT anything that changes the game. I always want the pure experience first, before monkeying around with it.

      If anyone can point me to that sort of thing (or, better, a guide like GoG has) I’d be much obliged. It would save me digging through the depths of the ‘net.

  47. BobDicks says:

    Deus Ex isn’t a real RPG, it isn’t even turn based.

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