Kim Wrong-Il: Homefront

By Alec Meer on December 14th, 2010 at 9:54 pm.

Is Homefront poorly-timed or perfectly-timed? I’d love to have been a fly on the wall in THQHQ when news broke about the recent violence between North and South Korea. “Does this mean the game’s screwed or a guaranteed success?”, I imagine a man with expensive business cards saying. No-one at THQHQ actually said that, of course. I’m just imagining what it might have been like. It’s like The West Wing, but with Rachael Bilson’s dad and some Space Marine statues in the halls.

The alterna-war shooter, which depicts an implausible near-future invasion of the US by North Korea, is due in March, so I suspect there’s a lot of boardroom breath-baiting about what happens between then and now.

In the meantime, we’re getting a slow trickle of trailers intended to snare the hearts and minds of the world’s gaming population as CODBlops mania dies down. Here’s the latest. It’s not a cheery affair:

So that’s that. More cinematic hyper-linearity awaits, it seems. Good news for COD fans, but hopefully it’ll also offer something more distinctive for those us who risk tiring of mega-gloss scripathons.

While Frontlines: Fuel of War devs Kaos (now augmented by an awful lot of heavy-hitters from other studios, I understand) are handling core development work, the PC version is to be brought to term by Digital Extremes – who’ve promised dedicated servers and all that good gravy we demand from our PC shooters.

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  1. kupocake says:

    That pun is an Il-Communication…

  2. Kaira- says:

    Seems rather mediocre to me, but I’ll anticipate the political outburst that will follow.

  3. IkarugaShiver says:

    I hope they smooth out some of the animations by the time the game is released. That said, the storyline seems pretty interesting. It’s not like it’s any more far-fetched than those of a lot of other FPS’s. The developer himself mentioned that this is supposed to be a “what-if” kind of game, so it’s not like the statement “implausible near-future invasion of the US” should hold particular weight against this game.

    • Gap Gen says:

      True. The “humans have developed faster-than-light travel but their guns are worse than modern weaponry” cliche is annoying.

      Although, I figure that actually it’s just a vaguely unrealistic genre like Steampunk – for example, Battlestar Galactica is Informationpunk. It’s what if the information age never ended, and you’re mixing desktop workstations and capitalist democracies with spaceships and killer robots.

    • Jason Lefkowitz says:

      Yes, but even a “what-if” has to exist within some bounds of plausibility. Otherwise you end up with nonsense like “what if time-traveling South African white supremacists sent Robert E. Lee a crate of AK-47s.” At which point you could save a lot of effort and just mail potential readers/players a letter that says “I DO NOT HAVE A VERY HIGH OPINION OF YOUR INTELLIGENCE.”

    • TDM says:

      I cannot and will not believe that novel was actually written.

    • Gap Gen says:

      This idea is actually more awesome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tosev_timeline

    • Torgen says:

      I cannot and will not believe that novel was actually written.

      Unfortunately it was, and I read it after hearing so much about the author.

      It’s utter tripe.

    • Jason Lefkowitz says:

      Yeah, the “Tosev timeline” is another fine product brought to you by self-styled “Master of Alternative History” Harry Turtledove, just like Guns of the South. The man is truly an inexhaustible fountain of nonsense.

    • Wulf says:

      Because alternate timelines and works of fiction are serious business, and not something that an author could have fun with, in a jovial, if even nonsensical sort of way.

      Sigh.

      I have no issues with implausibility really, as long as the implausibility is cleverly written. Douglas Adams was a master at this particular art, and I loved him for it.

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      Lars Westergren says:

      Gaah. Time travelling alternative history. The only literary genre worse than “books based on game worlds”.

    • Tengil says:

      If you’re basing your novel on the existence of time travel, it seems like it really should be called science fiction rather than alternate history, but to each his own I suppose.

    • President Weasel says:

      Not only did Harry Turtledove have some Boers send some AKs through time to the South, I also read a very similar story where someone sent either sten guns or the plans for same through time.
      (Sten guns being even simpler to manufacture than AK-47s).
      Yes it’s a ridiculous premise, but starting from that premise the book itself seemed decent enough for a holiday read.

    • Adam Whitehead says:

      Turtledove is entertaining, fluffy nonsense and doesn’t pretend to be anything more. The Tosev timeline (the WORLDWAR series, the COLONISATION trilogy and HOMEWARD BOUND) is a great spin on traditional alien invasion stories: what if the aliens invaded in 1942 when the entire planet is mobilised for war? I’m actually surprised that it hasn’t been adapted, as the premise would seem to be ripe for exploration as a film or game.

  4. Jason Lefkowitz says:

    Wait, North Korea invades and conquers the United States?

    North Korea has no navy. The U.S. has the largest navy in the world. How do the invaders even get there?

    Is the writer of this thing a complete idiot?

    From the writer of RED DAWN…

    Oh.

    • BobDicks says:

      I prefer the prequel where Zimbabwe conquers the entirety of North America. It’s a real page turner 5/5 stars every second of my life that was dedicated to finishing that book was a wasted one!

    • bhlaab says:

      I read something about this game

      North and South Korea TEAM UP and America is PEAK OIL so there you go

    • TDM says:

      No no – the prequel is the Zulu Kingdom sacking London after a glorious victory at Ulundi.

    • Christopher M. says:

      Maybe it’s like The Mouse that Roared?

    • DigitalSignalX says:

      It’s clearly shown in the first scene; they hijack jumbo passenger airliners and crash them in city suburbs where the fanatical North Korean soldiers pour out and quickly overwhelm any civilian and military response (let alone the millions of rednecks who own firearms) herding the population into walled security zones.

      It could happen for realz.

    • Caleb367 says:

      don’t forget World in Conflict premise, that the entire Soviet army somehow managed to slip into Seattle harbor on a bunch of cargo ships. And that was written by Harpoon mastermind Larry Bond, nonetheless.

    • Optimaximal says:

      If you actually look into the games full story, it transpires that North and South Korea have unified under Kim Jong-Il’s son, swallowed up Japan’s military and are a military super-power on the same level as China.

      It’s all far-fetched, yes, but not as dumbed-down as ‘Radical Nation State takes on the world’. Admittedly, the trailer didn’t help.

    • Grandstone says:

      @optimaximal

      Really? Sounds like the game should be about the Japanese resistance, as the idea the Japanese would submit to Korean rule is also ridiculous.

    • aldo_14 says:

      What I want to know is, why not just use China?

    • Dreamhacker says:

      Wow, seriously? Do you really North Korea has no navy? Are you sure you are not mixing up NK with, gee I dunno, Switzerland? You know, that nation without one of them, watcha call’em, coasts?

      North Korea has a submarine fleet of 70 vessels. Total fleet size is 708 vessels of various sizes.

      RTFW.

      (Disclaimer: Not that this makes the game story any less crazy. But hey, it’s a fun scenario!)

    • squirrel says:

      In WWI, German Navy was actually with the UK Navy. German made that up by its elite U-boat fleet. No miracle though.

    • squirrel says:

      In WWI, German Navy was actually no march with the UK Navy. German made that up by its elite U-boat fleet. No miracle though.

    • Rich says:

      “North Korea’s fleet consist of approximately 630 combat vessels (Patrol craft, guided missile boats, torpedo boats, fire support craft, destroyers, frigates, corvettes, and three cruisers), 100 submarines, and 340 support craft (landing craft, hovercraft).”
      NATO subs and carrier groups would do for all of that in no time. Particularly the cruisers. The Belgrano didn’t much of a chance in the Falklands.

      Also:
      “Most NKN vessels are small patrol-size craft unable to operate over 50 nautical miles (nm) from the coast but capable of policing the DPRK’s territorial waters.”
      Mostly rubbish.

      “The DPRK’s attack submarine inventory is estimated to include 4 former Soviet Whiskey class submarine, 22 Chinese ROMEO Class submarines, and DPRK-built ROMEO Class submarines. The WHISKEYs, acquired in the 1960s, can carry 12 torpedoes or 24 mines. Shortly after delivering four ROMEOs in the early 1970s, China helped the DPRK start its own ROMEO construction program. The ROMEOs are well equipped, have an improved sonar, and can carry 14 torpedoes or 28 mines.”
      Only attack subs. Obviously no missile subs, as they have no nukes.

      This story can only work if it was a sneak attack, which manages to get the American’s totally off guard. So yeah, basically Red Dawn.

      Sorry, these quotes are of course from Wiki

    • Jason Lefkowitz says:

      Wow, seriously? Do you really North Korea has no navy? Are you sure you are not mixing up NK with, gee I dunno, Switzerland?

      I meant, of course, no blue-water navy; no navy that can operate beyond its own coasts, no significant capital ships, etc. But if you want to argue that North Korea could mount an invasion across the Pacific with a few patrol boats and diesel submarines, feel free.

    • battles_atlas says:

      They’re welcome to borrow my dingy if they want it

    • bill says:

      They swallowed up the WHOLE Japanese military??? All zero of them? Well no wonder they won!

      Japan has no military. It has the SDF, but they’re basically a few small amateurs. The biggest military presence in Japan is the US military. Maybe north korea swallowed them.

    • Consumatopia says:

      This earlier trailer seems to show the game’s timeline http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6NiAGu4_8s

      If guess if you suppose that NK could build a thousand nuclear missiles in 2011, the the rest of it kind of makes sense. But that’s a dumb thing to suppose–you might as well just imagine North Korea invents cold fusion or time travel, it’s about as improbable.

  5. Gap Gen says:

    I hear the sequel is where St Momfort’s Catholic Primary School in Leicester conquers China.

    • mitthrawn says:

      Thank you. I ROFLed

    • Bret says:

      That’s insane. Utterly mad.

      Now, if it was St. Joel’s, in Ontario, that would make total sense.

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      Oozo says:

      But what if Scott’s busy, like, travelling cyber space or stuff?

  6. Navagon says:

    I think I’ll stick to my less railroaded FPS, personally. I can’t say I like the fact that games like this are a rapidly growing trend.

    • TheBrainninja says:

      Well, if a shooter is going to be a blatantly linear roller-coaster, I’d prefer it at least did so with a bang. We’ve had games of this style for a long time, but now they just have an extra coat of paint.

      I think it would be cool if more games could merge the Completely Epic Shit ™ design philosophy and the Freedom Of Choice ™ one. Then we could have sweet FOCCES games. Still, it’s a difficult balance to find; CES is easy if it’s all scripted, but that destroys FOC.

    • Caleb367 says:

      That could come out as Freedom of Complete Shit.

  7. Stephen Roberts says:

    The guns/animations/shooty tanks/etc all look like they are lacking heft. Sticky little stick sticks shooting peas at baffled lego men. I think it’s a grand idea for a shooter but that it’ll only end up being a shooter and a weak one at that (based on the look of the engine/animations/guns/muzzle flashes/model detail/etc. Nothing wrong with a nice involved story line but lets not forget to make the shooting good if it’s more than half of the game.

  8. President Weasel says:

    For a moment there I thought that chap’s “State Police” jacket said “stay polite!” and I was intrigued. Now I am no longer intrigued

    • westyfield says:

      They should have ‘please’ on the end, surely?

    • Jahkaivah says:

      Be polite.
      Be polite.
      And have a plan to be polite to everyone you meet.

  9. Thule says:

    I liked the concept of a foreign power invading the US in World in Conflict, but it has to be (Soviet) Russia or it’s simply not believeable. I simply can’t see North-Korea as dangerous to anything except it’s next door neighbors and therefore I can’t see myself get invested in this game.

  10. CMaster says:

    Oooh, Digital Extremes.
    There’s a team who always seemed to know what they were doing

  11. Mistabashi says:

    I remember playing Crysis and thinking “hang on a minute, what exactly is my justification for murdering all these Koreans?”.

    As far as I can tell, you (the American army) have no more justification to be on that island than the North Korean army; you both just want whatever cool shit is there. But of course, they are Communists and therefore inherantly evil, so it’s ok to shoot them all in the face :D

  12. PlayOm says:

    So in terms of plot, computer games are roughly where Hollywood was thirty years ago?

  13. Mister Adequate says:

    Good grief, a great deal of people seem to be whinging about the ridiculous premise and not relishing the ridiculous premise.

    • GoodPatton says:

      It’s definitely worthy of relish…
      Hopefully it will have mustered more support by release…
      All it has to do is play catch up with the CoD crowd…

      …Mayonnaise…

    • Marshall says:

      If not, THQ will be in a pickle.

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      JB says:

      “If not, THQ will be in a pickle.”

      Mmm, saucy.

    • Nick says:

      I thought the actual game looked a bit shit too.

    • Caleb367 says:

      Hey, there’s ridiculously ridiculous and awesomely ridiculous. Example of the former: this thing, heir of the propaganda-movie era (anyone remembering the utterly moronic 50s movie in which the entire chinese population was diggin’ a tunnel under the Pacific to invade California?) coming out in an entire new wave of anti-Asian media offensive.
      Example of the latter: Red Alert 2. Come on, you have all seen the Soviet uber-zeppelins between the skyscrapers, the giant squids, the Mammoth tanks rolling over a “Welcome to Texas” sign… RA2 didn’t pretend to be ZOMG REAL THREAT EVIL MINDCONTROLLING COMMIES. It was just a fun zany setting and it knew that.
      Now that i think about it, this Homefront sounds like the playable version of Fox News.

  14. GoodPatton says:

    Here’s hoping it’s somewhat non-linear. Now who wants a beer from my spiffy Hades cooler?

  15. Breaker Morant's Ghost says:

    Whole lot of NO FUN ALLOWED in these comments. Sorry to bust your sophisticated bubbles, but dog-fighting in space is ridiculous, medkits that heal instantly are impossible and magic isn’t real, so you all better stop playing video games.

    The premise looks like preposterous fun, too bad they opted to explore it with yet another linear FPS.

    • Minicow says:

      Is it terribly hard to understand that there’s a difference between the clear absurdity of space fighters or magic, and the ostensibly reality-grounded plot of a game set in the modern day? Because there is. The difference being that if you want to pretend your game is taking place in the real world, it should at least vaguely resemble reality. North Korean invasions of the US do not vaguely resemble reality.

    • PlayOm says:

      Red Alert was “preposterous fun” carried off with the right amount of humour and tongue-in-cheek. It may be the political subtext but this story looks to be a lot less innocent or “fun”

    • Oak says:

      The difference being that if you want to pretend your game is taking place in the real world, it should at least vaguely resemble reality.

      But it’s not taking place in the real world. It’s taking place in an imaginary world where something crazy and improbable has happened.

    • mitthrawn says:

      No, he’s right. The setting here is Ripped-from-the-headlines. This scenario is clearly extremely bizarrely unlikely, so people don’t buy it as plausible. THis is different from an spaceshooter or magic/fantasy RPG, because the implausible elements there are taken as a given. You agree to go along with the silliness as it is one of the established rules of the medium (magic, instant medpacks, etc).

    • Tacroy says:

      It goes something like this:

      David beats Goliath? It could happen.
      Magic breaks the laws of thermodynamics? Physically impossible, but why not!
      This country invading this country in a stand-up fight? That’s not even feasible. We have more people in crazy backwoods militias than they do in their entire army, and our crazy backwoods militias are well-fed; skip ahead on the Vice Guide to the point where they actually see real North Koreans, those people are fucking starving. Even the military dudes marching around in the intro – in official NK propaganda, even! – look unhealthily thin. The only even vaguely “not snapping suspension of disbelief completely” scenario I can come up with is if China decides to invade the USA, and then for some reason decides to hand it over to North Korea. Which still makes zero sense, but is slightly more plausible than North Korea basically beating the entire eastern hemisphere by itself (because after all, if you invade the USA, most of Europe is going to come in on our side)

    • A-Scale says:

      Every single reply to this comment is made by a stuffy baby whose monocle popped out.

    • Archonsod says:

      “because after all, if you invade the USA, most of Europe is going to come in on our side”

      Sure we will. About three years later …. :P

    • K says:

      It is not so much about realism as about internal consistency.

      When wizards cast spells, that is consistent, but unrealistic.
      When space ship travel between stars, that is consistent, but unrealistic.

      When Japan and North Korea ally, that is not consistent with our world view, because it contradicts fundamental knowledge and history, but it is “realistic”, because it does not break any laws of physics.

    • Lord_Mordja says:

      Or, as Dirk Gently put it: “The impossible often has a kind of integrity to it which the merely improbable lacks.”

  16. gulag says:

    I fully expect some mental modder to re-imagine *ChoughHackSplutter* Jagged Alliance as an FPS using this.

  17. Urthman says:

    Wait. I thought Homefront was the game where you had a robot tank following you around everywhere. Or am I thinking of a different game?

    • fallingmagpie says:

      I thought Homefront was the one with spaceships and space combat and big space stations and maybe some mining. In space. Not America.

      Buh?

    • PleasingFungus says:

      Frontlines and Homeworld respectively.

      Now, what would Frontworld look like?

    • aldo_14 says:

      Now, what would Frontworld look like?

      Isn’t it already called Nuts Magazine?

  18. KingCathcart says:

    THE HORROR.

  19. baekgom84 says:

    The concept is fun but completely ridiculous: most analysts predict that even without US help, the South Korean military could easily outmuscle the North Koreans. I also thought it was funny that Kim Jong-un (whose image had not been revealed to the public at the time) in the trailer is this sleek, charismatic figure, but the REAL Kim Jong-un looks more like Uder from The Simpsons.

    • ctr says:

      What analysts are those?

      The U.S. military analysts plan on South Korea getting over run in about 30 hours. They also plan on it taking a little less than that to mobilize and deploy their theater assets in Hawaii and Japan. North Korea has South Korea by the balls. Seoul is within artillery range. Why else do you think South Korea never does anything but talk in their grown up voice when NK kills their sailors and soldiers?

    • SapphireBullets says:

      Aside from its massive entrenched artillery, which would devastate Seoul in a matter of hours, it is not clear how effective North Korea’s conventional army would be in an invasion of the South. Its equipment is heavily outdated, and even though the army is the best-fed group in the country, many of the soldiers that have defected to the South speak of widespread hunger in the ranks. Add to this a complete inability to obtain air dominance. The North’s only effective strategy is a blitz attack that captures the bulk of ROK and US forces off guard, allowing for a complete capture of the peninsula within a few days – but the lack of air power combined with ill-equipped forces does not allow for this scenario.

      North Korea is dangerous because it can inflict serious damage to the South in a war, but not because it poses a credible threat of winning that war or capturing territory.

  20. G Morgan says:

    Not a word about the rampant racism, RPS? For shame:

    http://www.8asians.com/2010/09/08/homefront-the-face-of-xenophobia-video-games/

    • Gap Gen says:

      Wasn’t that in Sunday Papers a while ago?

    • Gap Gen says:

      Heh, yeah, RPS is in the trackbacks if you scroll to the bottom.

    • Access says:

      I thought that article was rather rubbish, though not surprising given that it is from an minority-support group site. How he makes the leap from a few one-dimensional characters to xenophobic propaganda. I don’t even.

    • G Morgan says:

      Ah, wazzit? I do try to pay attention. Scolding withdrawn. ;)

  21. Firelance says:

    For those of you who believe that it’s possible, that’s one.
    The backstory trailer explains every step that took North Korea there, and each of those steps are possible. Sure, the chances might be slim, but it is possible. Furthermore, the US military had been disabled by EMP. Yep, That EMP. Plus, America isn’t entirely wiped out, just occupied, with their military forces scattered.

    • Gap Gen says:

      Actually, I don’t think they have to justify it. Like the fact they don’t have to justify how Battlestar Galactica’s setting is just America in Space with Greek Mythology, they can just take the concept and run with it. In fact, the concept becomes stronger if they don’t explain it, because the more detailed the explanation the more ridiculous it becomes.

      I haven’t seen a game before that was unashamedly and unironically done in the style of Communist propaganda (except perhaps Stalin vs. Martians?). This could be that – the North Koreans invaded America because of the innate ideological superiority of Juche communism to American capitalism. Of course, this changes the message entirely, but still.

  22. Ivan Druzhkov says:

    Man, anyone remember Freedom Fighters? The gameplay was a little light, sure, but it was really fun back in the day, and the whole plot was handled just lightly enough that it didn’t fully descend into chest-thumping jingoism. Plus it had a kickass soundtrack and voicework by the two main Russian baddies from Red Alert 2.

    They’re never going to make that sequel, are they?

    • pretttt says:

      Freedom Fighters was an awesome game. I loved it when I played it back then. I think the music was by Jesper Kyd, same guy who used to do music for the Hitman games and also the Assassins Creed games.

  23. Wii and the Kid says:

    those kim jongs are crazy. THQ is treading on thin ice. N. Korea’s running “weapons test operations” right across the property line from THQ headquarters. watch for stray nukes.

    wiiandthekid.com

    • user@example.com says:

      “those kim jongs are crazy. THQ is treading on thin ice. N. Korea’s running “weapons test operations” right across the property line from THQ headquarters. watch for stray nukes.”

      Quoting this, so it’s preserved when the spam gets deleted. This is the best spam post, even better than shoes forking.

    • squirrel says:

      THQ dont have to worry about terrorist act against them, since Kim Jong-il just wont give a crap about the game we so much anticipate. THQ is really “is treading on thin ice” however if a new Korea War breaks out before March 8 2011. If that happens THQ cannot launch the game. I recall that Konami had to cut a large part of the ending of Metal Gear Solid 2 for the 911 incident, and the media made those who searched for the true, full version of Metal Gear Solid 2 sound like criminals.

  24. TDM says:

    The developers had so many random evil dirty foreign countries to choose from – why did they pick one whose invasion of the US would seem so heinously implausible?

    • Durns says:

      @TDM

      Thats probably a big reason in itself. Using a plausible country would be much more controversial, possibly to the point of being banned. Especially if the country was an ‘ally’.

    • TDM says:

      But doesn’t it seem like it’s being presented as though it were entirely plausible?

    • Archonsod says:

      It’s called suspension of disbelief. You might have heard of it.

  25. Bob123 says:

    You all underestimate the power of glorious North korea.

    Proof: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/LL15Dg01.html

    :P

  26. GoodPatton says:

    How is everyone absolutely sure its going to be uber linear, i still have a modicum of hope here, but it’s thoroughly being crushed with verve by these posts.

  27. Dagda says:

    I’ve almost, almost come around on this one. If you have the what-if extend back half a century and involve severe differences the entire time, it almost seems plausible. And it’d be worse to have China or Russia be the invaders, since it’d give the whole game an undercurrent of jingoism.

    Still, couldn’t they have had it be something fictional? Say, a scenario where the chinese civil war hadn’t had as clear a victor and the RoC (i.e. Taiwan) had held most of the western landmass, with the antagonist being a modern conglomerate of the eastern China and Korea. Suppose that would be less stupid, and thus not get people’s attention. Sigh.

  28. A-Scale says:

    Hopefully this is what Red Dawn should have been.

  29. SLeigher says:

    I was quite looking forward to this game as while I can see how it’s pretty ridiculous that North Korea would invade the US that only encourages me to play the game, but you guys are killing it by saying it’s going to be a lot like cod, the trailer doesn’t help either, earlier trailers and gameplay footage make it look much more like halflife 2 without the gravity gun

  30. Basilicus says:

    I’ll admit it’s pretty implausible, but so was a country with Japan’s size and population waging a successful decades-long war against Korea and 90% of China, and then putting the U.S. on its heels a few years while conquering most of Southeast Asia, the Phillipenes, and large swaths of Indonesia.

    So was some upstart from a smallish tribe called the Mongols conquering the stronger Merkits, Naimans, Keraits, Tatars, and Uighurs before uniting them and turning against the rest of the world.

    Modern China itself is the result of a very weak Communist nation with little territory fighting against the far more numerous Nationalists as well as Japan, Manchukuo, Sinkiang, Shanxi, Guangdong, Guanxi, and Yunnan, all of which except for Yunnan were far more powerful.

    History is made up of unexpected, minor warlords finding the right time in their part of the world to expand and consolidate far larger empires than could have ever been predicted, and North Korea’s already got the world’s 4th-largest standing army.

    I don’t know if this game is looking all that strong, but I do appreciate the Homefront guys’ shaping of a history that finds North Korea first taking over the South, then using China’s help to take over Japan, invading Indonesia, using these assimilated navies to expand further and further. It actually reflects some thought about how something like this could happen. Impractical as hell, sure, but it wouldn’t even make the top ten most implausible conquests in actual history.

  31. Lukasz says:

    Simple
    North Korea teamed up with China to conquer America. The part of the country where the game is taking place is occupied by NK.

    not sure whether that idea conflicts with anything already known about the game.

    And man. some of you are too butthurt about this whole idea.

  32. Bru says:

    I firmly believe that if NK invaded (which there are a few slim, highly improbable ways they could) we would just tell their invasion force that if they killed the “true believers” amongst them, then relinquished their weapons, that they could have asylum for them and for their family, and they could have as much food as they could handle.

    Just how long do you think that an army so mistreated by its own government would last under those conditions? I think even without something like that stated, the higher ups in the military are more scared of defection than any deaths to american hands.

    • Guildenstern says:

      Lol, no, that wouldn’t happen. It would end up being more like Martian invasion in Sirens of Titan instead.

  33. msarge says:

    Crazy premise or not, all the gameplay footage I’ve seen so far has been snooz-tastic.

  34. Fondue says:

    pretty hard to go from playing philosphical art flash games to then watching some half-arsed trailer about race-murder fantasies.

    On-topic, I’m itching for a mod that lets you play as the just and hardy Iraqi insurgent against the evil American oppressors. maybe the irony is lost on THQ. I hope so.

    • Minicow says:

      Because any game with non-white enemies is a RACE-MURDER FANTASY EVIL BAD DEATH KILL

    • Guildenstern says:

      @Minicow: You know, if you are going to engage in denial, you should maybe try things that aren’t that bloody obvious. Start small.

  35. Guildenstern says:

    You all do realize there are loads of people in US who think that invasion of America by islamic terrorists and imposition of sharia law are imminent threats? Pretty sure North Korea has more manpower then major terrorist organizations combined, so to those people it’s going to look entirely plausible and feed right into their paranoid delusions.

  36. terry says:

    The only way to salvage this game is to put the player in the shoes of Eric Clapton, who is parachuted behind enemy lines to do battle with evil using only the power of ROCK

  37. Jackalope says:

    Didn’t this originally have the Chinese as the invaders, just like the upcoming Red Dawn remake has? They switched the country because the were worried that with American player’s limited understanding of politics, they couldn’t get their head round the concept of China being a communist enemy so went with North Korea! Kinda funny.

  38. Corrupt_Tiki says:

    Well, I must be the only one but, I’ll say it, I’ll probably buy it, for cheap (maybe 20-30$) something about playing guerrilla against sadistic overlords who make the holocaust look like the times of our lives sounds fun.

    They should maybe even make a holocaust game, where you are in a concentration camp and go completely badass on all the zombies nazis, hell maybe you could even play as Chuck Norris.

    It would be something amazing like a Quentin Tarantino film

  39. valiantjared says:

    This is the most retarded premise ever…

    seriously… north korea and south korea and japan uniting? GTFO they all hate eachother

  40. valiantjared says:

    why didnt they pick like…. russia or china? they are much more plausible

    • squirrel says:

      You guys dont worry if China starts to dump Treasury Bills?

      And Putin …… Let’s stay away, Polar Bear means business……

  41. SneakyB says:

    Let me pull a theory from my stupid hat :
    1/ Why the US ?
    - Like for most shooters, the devs / producers are Americans so the US has to be involved in the game.
    - US has the coolest weapons / army so it HAS to be in all shooters
    - The very reason this news has so many comments: “What ? The mighty US invaded ? Shocking!”

    2/ Why North Korea ?
    - The most probable countries have already been used: China in Battlefield 2 at least (may be others but don’t remember) and Russia used in Frontlines and BF2 BC. Who is the next bad guy in the line ? Well NK is pretty bad and hasn’t been seen much in games… Cool! NK it is then.

    I think it would not even occur to a game dev not to include the US. Even Europeans devs do it (Crytek, Eagle Dynamics…)

    • Corrupt_Tiki says:

      Excuse me? Russians have been the bad guy in nearly ALL shoot em up games based around ‘imagined’ conflicts, rightly they were the ones that had their finger on the trigger during the cold war.

      And the yanks, are just, well they’re just yanks, need I say more?*cough*Hypocrites*cough*

      Crysis? was NK..
      But seriously you guys need to lighten up it’s a game.
      If you want modern depiction of war, play some ArmA 2, despite having flying jeeps/ATVs it is quite realistic, if you want more, join the army, or maybe infiltrate NK and ask them yourself if they are going to actually invade South Korea North America this time.

    • squirrel says:

      I dont think China / Russia played the role of “bad guys” in the Battlefield series. At least I absolutely dont feel that way while I am playing. I wont hesitate to shoot Americans / Europeans while playing Russian soldier. I prefer to play as Americans in the game for practical reason though. The shouting of players in the game help you to understand the situation. You comrades will tell you if there are enemy nearby, and what kind of enemy. Infantry? In tank? Sniper from far away? And if you hear Russian, you dont have to care what it means, just look for where the sound comes from and, search and destroy. But if your teammates are yelling Russian …… that’s just not fair if you get what I mean. Fortunately one Russian phase I manage to get the meaning: граната~!!

    • Sassenach says:

      I don’t think the Battlefield series has ever really given a context for the wars they depict. Largely it’s just two armies with mostly cosmetic differences fighting ‘ just because’, or at least that is the way I have always read it. Bad Company 2′s singleplayer tried to expand on this a bit with some manically-evil laugh villainy going on. But after the russian characters had done their torture and execute prisoners thing I still didn’t know what the cassus belli was supposed to be. So I just went back to presuming it was simply War O’clock. Or perhaps something like that bit in the The Day Today when the show provokes war.

  42. Fondue says:

    It could just as easily have ambiguous invaders who just look like generic Europeans/Asians. To me that’s more compelling – focusing more on what your side does rather than which nation/ethnicity is murdering civilians. You don’t have to feed into people’s(ie American’s) real-world fear and loathing.

    I probably went to far in saying it’s totally racial but it’s still pretty weird and hamfisted – “so these north koreans invade and they’re all faceless monsters you should probably kill them in some kind of linear gameplay where your ragtag militia defeat their tanks/helicopters with the powers of FREEDOM YEAAH! *eagle soars*”

  43. squirrel says:

    I am amazed by the fact the developer predicted Kim Jong-un to be the next Korean Emperor. Most people dont know who he is before North Korea made the announcement. Of course, in reality he is “not as handsome as” the actor in the game trailer. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-un)

    So CIA assisted in drafting the story of the game. CIA really meant business, huh.

  44. Kefren says:

    I think I’ll just play the demo. I’m pretty sure I’ll get to the bit where you first pick up a gun, then decide not to fight back after all, in case I reinforce US hubris. Excellent, I will save myself a load of time and money with that game.

  45. nuh uh no way says:

    I feel the negative reactions to this are like some kind of Uncanny Valley thing going on:

    It’s sci-fi, but TOO FICTIONY in some parts and NOT FICTIONY ENOUGH in others.

    I was looking forward to this until I saw the animations in that trailer. Did not look very good.

  46. BobsLawnService says:

    Not to spoil the twist but in this the Chinese are covertly offering the Norks assistance and support. They are merely the face of the war and the puppets.

  47. SM47 says:

    The ‘Homefront Backstory’ trailer released in June was in incredibly bad taste. Using news footage referencing the sinking of the Cheonan in order to sell a game is really awful.

    • Corrupt_Tiki says:

      O RLY? well, I didn’t know that, I actually might not buy it now, that is pretty poor, if it was all in-game, maybe, but, Real footage of people dying is not really something I want to see in my game, it disturbs me quite a bit.

      I can deal with shooting some pixel soldier, in his pixel face and emptying the rest of my magazine into his [pixel] body, and know that he will never see his beautiful Pixel-based family ever again.

      I can deal with that.