Siege Three Dungeons For The Price Of One

By Alec Meer on April 8th, 2011 at 5:00 pm.

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Hrm. I’m a pretty wary of pre-ordering games personally – I like to hear at least some reception before I invest in a game – but if you were in the market for Dungeon Siege III anyway, you’ll be very pleased to hear that future-buying it via Steam means you’ll be gifted a free copy of both Dungeon Siege 1 and 2. Which is a pretty good deal – although I rather suspect that the kind of person who would pre-order Dungeon Siege III probably already owns the other games anyway. Still, this would appear to be their first appearance on Steam (if indeed that it how they’re being distributed), so that’s good news. Gradually transforming one’s games library to a purely digital form is forever appealing – I know I’ve a whole bunch of disc-locked games that I wish could instead be summoned from the crowd.

Also, DS3 is confirmed as Steamworks title. More details on that below, like.

Well, you know full-well what Steamworks means- achievements, auto-updating, cloud saving, that kinda thing. But here is a man observing as much in an official statement kinda style:

“Providing DUNGEON SIEGE I and DUNGEON SIEGE II free of charge through Steamworks is Square Enix’s way of showing appreciation to the fans of the DUNGEON SIEGE franchise,” said David Hoffman, executive producer for DUNGEON SIEGE III. “Selecting Steamworks to be integrated into the upcoming DUNGEON SIEGE III title made perfect sense as we wanted to provide the best possible gameplay experience for PC gamers and long-standing fans of the series.”

I don’t know why he has to use all those capital letters. Is he angry? He sounds like he might be.

As for the free DS1/2 thing, I note that was already revealed in February – as well as claiming it would be only the singleplayer versions of the games. Yet I’m apparently not allowed to post this fact until 5pm today (I’m writing these words at 4.11pm, time-fans) – hopefully it’s simply a matter of Steam pre-orders being activated at 5pm. The free games will apparently be made available to you as soon as you pre-order.

Dungeon Siege III, dev duties for which are tackled by Obsidian, is due for release on June 17, having recently slipped from its projected May release. We have some impressions of it here and here.

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  1. Bureaucrat says:

    Neat. As more of an Obsidian fan than a Dungeon Seige fan, I may take advantage of that offer.

    Has to be better than the free copy of Space Seige that came with pre-ordering Alpha Protocol.

    • Mac says:

      I like Obsidian, but I never buy any of their games on release – they always need 6 months or so to get patched up …

  2. Grot_Punter says:

    No MP for the other 2? Hm, that is quite disappointing. Quite.

    • Memphis-Ahn says:

      Yeah, tell me about it. Made it instantly go from “PREORDER” to “WAIT FOR REVIEWS”.

    • Archonsod says:

      Dungeon Siege 1 & 2 utilise Zonematch for multiplayer, which Microsoft shut down in 2007, so the only way to play MP these days is either directly connecting to the host IP or LAN via Hamachi. I suspect the “no multiplayer” means they haven’t changed the games to utilise Steam or a similar service rather than having cut the code out, i.e. no easy to use click to connect multiplayer, just fiddle with ports and exchange IP addresses.

    • Grot_Punter says:

      True, these are games from that era, so, I guess no loss in that regard. Heck, I still play Warlords Battlecry 3 with direct IP connection.

      @Memphis-Ahn
      I don’t see how no MP on the other 2 would have any impact on my opinion of the 3rd…….

    • Scott Kevill says:

      I’d be surprised if they went back and removed the multiplayer code for DS 1 and 2. Those games didn’t use separate executables for multiplayer. More likely they just don’t want to get complaints when people see the connection error messages for ZoneMatch, etc.

      Both DS 1 and 2 are playable on GameRanger of course. So is Warlords Battlecry 3 for that matter.

    • Memphis-Ahn says:

      @Grot_Punter
      It doesn’t change my opinion of the third game at all, it’s just that getting the first two games for free made me not care whether the game turned out to be not what people were expecting. Since they don’t have multiplayer (meaning I won’t play them) then it’s really not as cost-effective, and hence I’d rather wait for reviews.
      It’d be nice to have some confirmation on whether LAN/GameRanger worked with the free Steam copies though…

  3. Hunam says:

    I’m mostly wondering what the controls are like on the PC. I say this because I actually preferred the controls in the XBLA version of Torchlight over the clicky clicky PC version. I know in the RPS discussion a few weeks back they said it was more action based controls, but does that count for the PC version? Just trying to see if I want it for the PC or for the fun box 720.

    • zergrush says:

      It’ll probably support a 360 controller like most multi-plat games these days, and I believe Quintin talked specifically about the control layout in one of the previews.

  4. Njordsk says:

    I’ll wait for review.

    And might buy sunglasses.

    • Adam says:

      It is a sweet deal, but having never played number 1 or 2…it’s a risk I’m not willing to take : )

    • ceriphim says:

      Me too. The banner pic doesn’t have enough lens flare to even approach Star Trek levels, not to mention that of DS3. /sniff

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    Phinor says:

    No doubt it’s going to be 50€ in Steam and 25€ someplace else. I love Steamworks games for one reason and one reason only, circumventing the silly euro pricing. This way I’m missing out on the Steam pre-order bonuses but they are usually pretty useless bonuses like in this case if the two games really have no multiplayer. They were rather great co-op games but I wouldn’t want to go through them alone.

    • Hunam says:

      In the UK we often get PC games being sold for like £24.99 in shops and £34.99 on steam. So it’s not always worth it.

    • jallah says:

      You lucky bastards :)

      Here in germany games are more expensive. Witcher 2 for example is currently at 50€ on amazon, 45€ on steam ( -10% sale ). It’s still cheaper for me to buy it from amazon uk for £25 plus shipping, which is about 35€ in total.
      Also games here often have content cut from them because of violence and are only available in german, sometimes with really bad synchronization. So it’s not only cheaper for me to buy from the uk but also i regularly get a better gaming experience when i do so.

      Those scientists in Half-Life that wouldn’t die after being shot but instead sat down shaking their heads until infinity are still haunting me.
      Plus we fought against robots instead of human soldiers :(

    • Hunam says:

      That sounds insane. The game goading you for shooting those annoying scientists!

      The good thing about steam is though is that if you have a friend in the UK or US you can get them to gift you their versions of the game. So you can get the cheap deals and all the blood and gore you can shake a stick at. Though to be honest, games now are far, far less violent on the whole than they were 10-15 years ago.

      But yeah, the UK has fantastic prices on games, Microsoft keep commenting that they like the UK because UK gamers have more games per console than any other country in the world, but it’s not had to understand that when we can pick up games for £18 about a month or two after launch, for PC games you can go as low as £8 or so quid a few months after that.

  6. Serenegoose says:

    Pretty good deal, but I don’t pre-order games. Well, I’ve pre-ordered one game ever, fine. But it’s not this one. Burned too many times to take such a financial risk with something I can’t just take back to the shops.

  7. somnolentsurfer says:

    Weren’t the original Dungeon Siege games published by Microsoft? Surprised to see them arrive on Steam…

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      Shakermaker says:

      I know for a fact the first Dungeon Siege is a Microsoft game, not sure about the second. And as far as I can see the first two games aren’t for sale on Steam, just the third. Which is too bad, because I would be in the market for the second. Never played that, even though I quite liked the (huge) demo.

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      abhishek says:

      It’s possible they will go on sale individually later (after the pre-order has ended). The same thing happened with Mafia 2 which gave out free copies of Mafia for pre-ordering. Initially, pre-ordering the second game was the only way to get the first one on Steam but a few weeks after Mafia 2 released, Mafia 1 went on sale independently as well. It makes sense really, why would they go to all the trouble of getting a game up on Steam and then not letting people buy it later.

      Coming back to the news itself, it’s actually a pretty nice thing of them to do. Dungeon Siege 1 and 2 are not available to buy anywhere (digital distribution) and getting retail copies is tricky as well. However, this being an Obsidian game, waiting for reviews/user impressions is not just prudent, but absolutely required.

    • Archonsod says:

      Take 2 bought the rights a few years back (shortly after the release of II if I’m not mistaken, it was in fact Take 2 who developed the expansion for DSII).

    • dadioflex says:

      The first was definitely MS because I can still remember the branding everywhere when it started up. I bought the second as a GOTY edition, lent it, unopened, to my nephew and never saw it again.

      Try to buy either of the first two now though… the first isn’t even on Games for Windows Live Marketplace.

      I’ll wait for the inevitable bargain bundle some weekend and pick them up for 75% off.

      I never really liked the first one. You set up the party, moved it about and then all you had to do was keep everybody healed while they automatically healed, fired or beat on whatever was nearby… the MP was great fun though, and you rarely hear me say that.

    • Archonsod says:

      Yeah, the rights reverted back to GPG when they had their falling out with Microsoft, and they flogged them to Take 2.

    • malkav11 says:

      On the other hand, Gothic 1 -still- isn’t available separately on Steam. Gotta buy a pack that includes it.

  8. Jimbo says:

    Is this party based in single player? I gather it’s 4 player co-op, but do you get to control 4 characters in SP?

    • mattjb says:

      Yes, you can control each character in SP. Simply click on their portrait and the view changes and you can use their abilities and even equip them and use their inventory space.

      At least until you get the awesome packmule. I’m still annoyed that Obsidian left out the packmule in DS3. They said it doesn’t fit their vision of the game, although they had no problem including a skimpy, busty chick firing a sniper rifle like it was a machine gun with spell effects. I’m guessing there’s a horrid lack of loot to collect, thus negating the need for a packmule, which would be terrible because these kind of games attract loot junkies, of which I am guilty of being.

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    Andy_Panthro says:

    Will this mean that Dungeon Siege 1+2 will be available on Steam (or indeed other download services, of which my preferred is GamersGate)?

    I’m not hugely interested in buying DS3, though might get it when it’s on sale some months from now. DS1 on the other hand, is required for Ultima V: Lazarus and the Ultima 6 Project, which I’m told are quite good.

    I am aware you can get DS1 (on a DVD!) from amazon and similar places, but I’m in no rush to get it, and it would be a touch more convenient if it were downloadable.

    • Jaesun says:

      No one knows yet if these version will work with Lazarus or the Ultima 6 Project yet.

  10. Kefren says:

    Steamworks is great for people who use Steam, crap for people who don’t. The best would be Steamworks on the version sold on Steam, something different (or DRM-free) for versions sold on GamersGate etc. I only use GamersGate and GOG (and sometimes direct from indies) for non-physical games.

  11. scharmers says:

    Ready availability of DS1 via digital distro really means only one thing: now everyone can play the Ultima V Lazarus mod. Actually the only reason to even have DS1, really.

  12. nuh uh no way says:

    this is incredible news if you like the first two games, because they aren’t playable on vista or 7!

  13. Luis_Magalhaes says:

    So do the DS1 and DS2 dowloadables include the expansion pack content? Would kinda suck if they didn’t.

    • Oneironaut says:

      Apparently the expansion’s aren’t included. I would have already preordered if they had been.

    • Luis_Magalhaes says:

      Thanks, that is a bummer. I guess I’ll go back to hunting used game sites for DS2 and Broken World. Shame, I am disliking discs more and more.

  14. ttcfcl says:

    >Purchase Dungeon Siege III before release and receive single player versions of Dungeon Siege and Dungeon Siege II to play now!

    Laaaaaame. The best part was networking and playing with DSI and II with your friends.

  15. Luis_Magalhaes says:

    Looking around in Steam forums, it seems that DS1 is not Win7 64-bit compatible. FTL.

    Hopefully Square-Enix will eventually get to putting their oldies on GOG in decent packs and with proper compatibility.

    • aspectacle says:

      Further to this they have totally removed any multiplayer support, so you cannot use LAN for multiplayer.

      The expansions are not included.

      The deal is suddenly a lot less interesting….

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      Andy_Panthro says:

      Pray they do not alter the deal any further.

    • Bhazor says:

      Aspectacle
      Where did you hear that? As others have said Microsoft stopped supporting the Zonematch client a few years ago but people are still using direct IP connections and third party server browsers to run it. Unless Obsidian have gone through the trouble of rewriting the code for the whole game this should still apply.
      As for the expansions, I haven’t heard thier inclusion being confirmed nor denied anywhere.

    • aspectacle says:

      @Bhazor

      I was reading for information on the steam forums. People who’ve bought the game are reporting what is and isn’t included with the free games. The one reporting the complete removal of all multiplayer functionality can be found on this page:

      http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1827049&page=4

  16. Orvidos says:

    Fun fact, games released last decade, now 50 dollars (USD) on Steam!

    What the hell?

    (DS1 AND 2 are both 50 bucks on Steam.)

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      Man Raised by Puffins says:

      Er, no. They aren’t available separately, $50 is for the full package of Dungeon Sieges 1-3.

    • Orvidos says:

      Ahhhh! Hmm. Odd that they’d even list it as a separate release on the Store page, which is what threw me. My bad! Thanks for the clarification.

      Also, wizard.

    • Bhazor says:

      Technically “last decade” could include 18 months ago.

    • Orvidos says:

      . . .Look, you know what I meant. You persnickity person on the internet you. *Sigh*

      I don’t suppose anyone has pre-purchased anyway and can inform us as to whether LAN connections still function or have been stripped? Also, expansions?

    • Someblokius says:

      I have pre-purchased and can confirm that there is no multiplayer at all. The icon in DS1 is still on the start menu but brings up a window “Disabled”. In DS2 the Multiplayer icon is greyed out and dead.
      So not a great deal for social folk.

    • Orvidos says:

      That makes me mildly angry. I’d say “what right do they have. . .yada yada yada?!” but they have every right. It just saddens me greatly that they’ve chosen to make use of it.

  17. ScubaV says:

    “Gradually transforming one’s games library to a purely digital form is forever appealing”

    Heh, actually I’m the opposite. I try to get a physical copy whenever possible.

    • Hunam says:

      You must be one of those rare people that still has shelf space/wardrobe/cupboard/draw space left over :)

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