Shop Clever: UK Retailers Sell Portal 2 Early

By Jim Rossignol on April 21st, 2011 at 7:43 am.


It seems that British retailer Game has realised that there are No Oceans on the internet, and has consequently broken the planned Friday release date of the PC version of Portal 2. The company told Eurogamer that the move was a “market reaction” to the availability of the online version of the game.

Perhaps they’d like to join our campaign for worldwide release dates? How about it, Game?

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  1. Corrupt_Tiki says:

    I suppose if they have the game in stock etc, I don’t see why they would want to lag behind the Digital Distribution stores release.

  2. c-Row says:

    I don’t know about the others, but my local Media Market – something like a European Best Buy – had it in stock yesterday, too. That’s only one day early, since Friday is a red-letter day and they would have lost potential first-day customers, but still. Take that, oceans!

  3. James says:

    Stupid Business Practice:
    Release on Friday, it is official!

    Game:
    No, we’re not going to do that.

    • thegooseking says:

      Not really.

      Game: “We put new games out on Friday. Make your release date on Friday.”
      Publishers: “Ok.”
      Game: “Ahh! Valve put Portal 2 out early! We’re going to release it before Valve’s official release date that we imposed on them in the first place.”
      Publishers: “Ok.”

      The “stupid business practice” you refer to is Game’s to begin with.

    • Milky1985 says:

      “The “stupid business practice” you refer to is Game’s to begin with.”

      Riiiiiighhhtt

      We ALL know it was GAME that decided that the entire country woudl release on friday, its not like its been friday for the years before game existed…..

      Lots of people seem to hate game for various reasons but saying that the friday thing is games fault is just retarded

    • thegooseking says:

      It’s not Game’s specifically; it’s retailers’ in general. But Game is the biggest retailer (especially since they technically own Gamestation), so they’re the ones perpetuating it, because they have the biggest influence over publishers. And yes, it’s been that way since before Game was around, but before Game was around, retail was basically the only channel for game sales, so this wasn’t even a concern.

      To give a clue of how big (and therefore influential) Game is, in 2009 they posted revenue slightly higher than HMV’s total revenue, let alone HMV’s revenue from games. So yeah, they pretty much control things.

    • lurkalisk says:

      I believe it has a great deal to do with the logistics on the distributors side (or at least it used to). It seems it was at one point greatly beneficial to align releases this way (much like videogame Tuesdays in the US), but the habit has outlived it’s usefulness. Or is at least beginning to.

    • DrGonzo says:

      Actually since 2009 GAME haven’t been doing very well. With any luck, they will be out of business in a few years!

    • Milky1985 says:

      @DrGonzo

      I hope you enjoy the view from your ivory tower, what do us little people look like to you?

      (As a note, don’t work for game , never had done but am fed up of the “I wish game would fail” speak coming from people who don’t understand that maybe, just maybe, they are not games target market and so wish for thousands of peopel to lose there jobs because of it)

    • 7rigger says:

      @Milky1985

      Well, I have worked for GAME and Gamestation (Before, during and after the buyout) and I have to admit they are a pretty poor example of a responsible company – they pay counter staff (The people you see everyday) minimum wage or barely above it, control most of the UK’s distribution while pocketing fat profits from it.

      (No kidding, we once received an email stating that the company had ‘only’ made 300 million pounds profit – a drop from the previous year of about 10% – so they were cutting hours for counter staff across the country to save money. We went from 3 full time staff plus part-timers to NO full time staff and the part timers were put down to 4-12 hour contracts. (I got a 20 hour out of it from my previous 40, but I kicked up a hell of a lot))

    • Shih Tzu says:

      If I can just chime in here as an American, I’d like to know what moron thought Tuesday would be a good day for game releases. When you get a game you’ve been anticipating, in most cases the first thing you want to do is sink 2-10 hours into it, right? How the hell is anyone supposed to do that on a Tuesday night unless they’re unemployed or a particularly irresponsible student?

      Why don’t they switch with movies? Movies would at least make sense for weeknights; I can usually spare two hours to watch something. Games should be the ones getting the weekends.

      Don’t tell me I should just be an adult and wait three days after the release to start playing. That way lies madness.

    • iainl says:

      If you’re looking for someone to blame, point the finger at Chart Track. Their European charts run Friday-Friday, so if you don’t release on one, that’s less than a whole week’s sales in your new chart entry.
      Obviously, it’s going to be the Publisher that cares about that, and not GAME themselves. But persuading Chart Track and NPD to agree on moving to a common US/EU chart week is what you need to get rid of Internet Oceans, and I rather suspect they’re petty and stubborn enough to not agree.

      edit – re: why the US have a Tuesday, it’s because the distributors used to ship their boxes to retailers on the Monday. And US retailers weren’t trusted to act like UK music retailers and take their delivery on a Friday, then leave it in the back until Monday came around.

  4. DSR says:

    Shop Clever: Don’t waste your money on Portal 2 before weekend deal at least. Why would you even think about supporting Valve’s new strategy about milking people?

    Shame on you.

    Buy Frozenbyte Humble Bundle instead where you don’t need to pay real money to get the hats what are in game files already.

    • James says:

      Thanks for your guidance.

    • Kdansky says:

      Portal 2 won’t be discounted for a few weeks at the least, probably a few months. Paying full price at release isn’t “milking”, it’s normal. And if you’re still pissed about the hats: Don’t buy hats. Gabe won’t come over and smash your kneecaps if you don’t buy hats.

      That said: Of course waiting will (probably) get you a reduced price at some point. D’uh.

      Why do people hate on Portal 2 so much? Finally an inspired game that is not a brown cover based shooter, and the internet explodes with rage over a damn tip jar. Other games make you pay 5$ per map they release, but that’s fine! As long as it isn’t a hat.

    • Harlander says:

      I bought Portal 2 on pre-release, and

      pay real money to get the hats what are in game files already.

      still isn’t a thing I need or intend to do.

    • Rii says:

      Portal 2 via Steam is about half the price of most AAA games in Australia, so I certainly can’t complain on that score.

      But there is a fair amount of brown in it.

    • Bishop says:

      I’d be more tempted to pay to not have hats, they look retarded. If you feel so strongly about it, mod them back into the game. It really isn’t a big deal. We can draw the line at maps, we don’t have to cry over cosmetic items.

    • Vague-rant says:

      RE; Milking. Something I’ve always wondered, if “milking” the audience is analogous to extortion, what is just buying a game regularly (at a discounted price even)? Is that milking too? Or is there something that comes before milking. I don’t know, maybe shaving the cow and making pillows?

    • Oozo says:

      Come to think of it, it was not really trolling. Just a view I don’t really agree with and have trouble understanding.

      So, when I say that Valve should give away a free Troll hat in Portal 2, I didn’t mean anybody in particular in this comment thread. (Other people in particular in other comment threads, though.)

    • JohnnyMaverik says:

      But I love it when Gabe caresses my teat… I know I’m a dirty whore aren’t I! >.<

      *runs away to cry in a cupboard*

      :'(

  5. DSR says:

    still isn’t a thing I need or intend to do. And I wont.
    Let me tell you a story, good man.
    I own TF2 on Steam and I stopped playing not long before third class update because I disliked where game was heading.
    When they introduced shop there, I was indifferent. Why not? Game is hardly new and already have some dedicated fanbase around it.
    Sure. It also costs like 14$ on steam nowadays.
    But when I see a CASH SHOP in full priced game I think something IS wrong.
    There is a cash shop in Battlefield Heroes. Fine. Its free to play.
    But in game I bought for 49$? No, thank you very much!
    No matter how minor or unnecessary those items are, its still a spit into customer’s face.
    Funny how DICE is going to release BF3 soon and, I have no doubt, without a cash shop at launch.
    And with full PC support including DX11 and higher player count compared to consoles.
    While Valve gave us “dont turn off your console” in Portal on PC…
    EA Valve
    Who’s the ultimate corporation of Evil now?

    edit: Curses! That was supposed to be a reply.

    • Rii says:

      “Funny how DICE is going to release BF3 soon and, I have no doubt, without a cash shop at launch.”

      They’ve already announced the first DLC pack: Back to Karkand. Free if you pre-order via EA, otherwise…

      DICE is the single worst offender in the industry when it comes to milking their customers.

    • James says:

      @DSR

      I like you, you’re silly.

    • Vague-rant says:

      Please don’t compare unreleased games with released ones. Only disappointment lies down that alley way.

      And the cash shop I imagine is annoying (I haven’t played Portal 2). How in your face is it? I’m imagining a little icon/menu option which I couldn’t care less about (a lot like the Credits button that most people ignore), but a huge bubble constantly throughout my play through is obviously past the line. I do like to know the things people complain about.

    • Rich says:

      First, I can understand some annoyance at a store in a multi-player oriented game. It may effect gameplay. However, this is a single or two-player game. If you buy crap that messes up the gameplay, that’s your fault for being incapable of not buying something just because it’s there.

      Secondly:
      “And with full PC support including DX11 and higher player count compared to consoles.
      While Valve gave us “dont turn off your console” in Portal on PC…”
      If you’re going to persist in this nonsense, then I’m afraid there is no helping you. The loading screen has been explained quite satisfactorily. It is a PC game. It is also a console game. The PC version is not compromised simply for there being a console version. Portal 2 couldn’t be more supported on the PC and if the loading screen bug whips you up into a rage every time you see it, first seek help, and second it will no doubt be patched out very soon.

    • subedii says:

      Eh don’t worry too much about the reply fail. Obvious troll is too obvious to work anyway.

    • DSR says:

      They’ve already announced the first DLC pack: Back to Karkand. Free if you pre-order via EA, otherwise…

      DICE is the single worst offender in the industry when it comes to milking their customers post-purchase.

      Because giving something for free is a crime now?
      Also, don’t you compare two(or was that three?) completely different remastered maps from BF2 with pair of glasses which can be drawn in half a hour by any half decent modeller.

      Offender? Like free map packs for BF:BC2? Or maybe providing an XP boost(So you can unlock weapons which are ingame and available for anyone) for couple of $ which you can get by simply playing for a week?
      Then I’m not offended.

      I’m a former Valve fanboy and its kinda sad how everyone just lets THAT slide now…
      If Activision announced cash shop for new COD, I bet people would run around screaming like there is no tomorrow about developers being “bad” and “greedy”.

      But Valve? Sure its ok!

    • Rii says:

      @Rich: “The PC version is not compromised simply for there being a console version.”

      Sure it is.

      Beyond the saving (not loading) screen thing – which is a nonsense issue, I agree – there’s also the frequent loading screens, the controller-optimised menu system, the narrow FOV, and arguably the obtrusive floating buttons.

      Hardly egregious issues, but compromises nonetheless.

      Still, I can’t imagine how folks can actually stand to play the game on anything other than a PC.

    • Rii says:

      @DSR

      I’m talking about the ‘booster packs’ for BF2 that gave you additional weapons like flashbangs which you could then take into vanilla games against people who didn’t have them.

    • thegooseking says:

      @Rii
      Portal 2 runs smoother than the original Portal on the same PC hardware. Maybe the small maps contribute to that, but that has never happened with a console port. Ever.

      I agree that the menu is terrible, but when there are sub-menus that you can’t use with gamepad-mapped keystrokes, and have to use the mouse, you can hardly blame that on consoles.

      There are console games without loading screens, or with loading screens that are more like the original Portal (the game pauses and pops up a ‘loading’ message but doesn’t take you off to a separate screen). Think Mass Effect (but not Mass Effect 2). The decision to have an actual loading screen rather than a loading message on the screen was a bad one (although I kind of like the progress bar, it didn’t need a separate screen), but again, not a console one.

    • slight says:

      @Rii.

      - Controller optimised menus. Don’t know what you mean here, they seem normal to me except they’re slightly fiddly. They’re nothing like ME2s abominations.

      - Narrow FOV. This is normal for Valve, see HL2 long before it had a console release.

      - Regular loading. Again normal for Valve, again see HL2.

    • Ravenger says:

      Just about the only thing which does annoy me are the frequent loading screens. I know other source games load frequently too, but it’s much more immersion breaking the way Portal 2 does it, with a full screen images that take you out of the game, compared to Portal 1′s pausing in gameplay and displaying ‘loading…’

    • Antilogic says:

      @Rii Free not just with EA, but all pre-orders of the game. DICE stated when you pre-order from anyone you get the limited edition, which includes the DLC map pack for free by default.

    • Milky1985 says:

      “- Regular loading. Again normal for Valve, again see HL2.”

      No there is far more loading in this than HL2, it did make me think “I wish consoles had more memory ”

      In portal 1 not every lift caused a loading break, in this one it does INCLUDING the times when the next area isn’t interactive.Sorry you can’t deny that its becasue of designing for the consoles here but they have done some VERY good optimisations to keep the loading times short.

      Oh and its the first game in a while taht is really good with alt tabbing too (far better than TF2)

    • thegooseking says:

      you can’t deny that its becasue of designing for the consoles here

      Yes you can. The levels in Portal 2 are smaller than in Portal, yes. They’re also far more detailed, include a lot more assets despite being smaller, and aren’t nearly as static. That doesn’t even remotely come for free. A large square box painted with a single texture is nothing, memory-wise. You could have it 1,000 km on a side and it would take exactly the same memory as having it two metres on a side. Admittedly, Portal’s levels were a bit more complicated than a single square box, but Portal 2 raises the complexity orders of magnitude higher.

    • Milky1985 says:

      “Admittedly, Portal’s levels were a bit more complicated than a single square box, but Portal 2 raises the complexity orders of magnitude higher.”

      I would agree with the later levels, but the earlier levels, like the first few chambers are TINY in terms of size and complexity, there is no reason FPS wise or space wise on the average PC to have such small levels, the only reason I can see is splitting it up to cater for the smaller ammount of RAM on the consoles (or that the engine can handle horizontal progress but not vertical).

      Its still a good game and a good engine (great improvements form the old), but saying there have been NO changes to the game to account for the console is just stupid, the increase in the ammount of loading breaks is one of them imo.

    • skalpadda says:

      @Vague-rant: It’s a button on the title menu, you click it and the item shop with cosmetic items for your co-op character opens up. It’s not an intrusive thing at all and has no effect whatsoever on the single player game. I don’t think it’s a good thing on principle, but it didn’t affect my game so it didn’t bother me.

    • eduh says:

      you will pay for BF3′s dlc, the dlc for portal 2 will be free, and there will be more of it.
      you will have to pay if you want to play on the same maps as your friends. In Portal 2, you only pay if you want additional cosmetic stuff.

      plus, you can get cosmetic stuff by just playing the game, w/o having to pay for a thing.

      enough said. take your childish and spoiled ranting somewhere else.

    • thegooseking says:

      @eduh: When you say, “the dlc for portal 2 will be free, and there will be more of it,” are you talking about user-created content, or have you heard some announcement I haven’t?

      Or is this an assumption along the lines of, “TF2 has paid cosmetic DLC and free substantial DLC, therefore Portal 2 will, too”?

      Don’t mean this to sound like a challenge; I just wonder what you mean.

    • DrGonzo says:

      The cash shop in Portal 2 is a bit silly. But completely pointless and easy to ignore. Plus I’ve unlocked a bunch of stuff to wear simply through achievements without buying anything.

      But, comparing to BF3 is hilariously stupid. BF3 already has DLC that actually effects the quality of the game directly, and it’s not even released.

      If you don’t get the DLC for BF3, you miss out on a level, if you don’t get DLC for Portal 2, then it doesn’t matter one bit.

    • Ravenger says:

      From a development point of view it makes sense to split up each area/test chamber into separate loads, but it’s not very immersive from a gameplay standpoint.

      I’ve got a feeling that the reason the game loads so frequently in the early stages because the first levels are very resource intensive with lots of audio and animation and they need to keep the memory footprint down for consoles. Some later levels are much bigger, but less detailed and have less animation and dialogue.

    • Nick says:

      Wait, an FoV of 90 is narrow now?

      The only annoying thing is the viewmodelfov which makes the gun too close and big, and which the command to change inexplicably doesn’t fucking work (much like L4D2 at launch and for ages after). It looks a bit silly.

  6. Corrupt_Tiki says:

    Wow, so much hate over a little tag for a milisecond while the game saves, guess they’ll not do that again, also; how dare they release a game I have to pay for to own etc etcmoarnonsense etc etc…

    • Rii says:

      The only way to own Portal 2 is to pirate it.

    • thegooseking says:

      It only comes up when you save from the menu, anyway. It doesn’t come up when the game autosaves (at which point you get no message), and it doesn’t come up when you quick-save (at which point you get a far more PC-friendly message).

      Yes, the menu is shit, but that’s not a console compromise; that’s just poor design. Go to advanced video and try to set the options using the arrow keys. It won’t work. You can only set them with the mouse (and annoyingly, if you try to use the arrow keys, it’ll hide the menu and give you a message about what that option does). Of course, the advanced video options page is the one console owners won’t see, but to suggest it’s a poor console port when only the mouse is supported beggars belief.

    • Corrupt_Tiki says:

      @Rii
      That is of course the only logical solution to this problem.

  7. Synchrony says:

    good on you Game, now do it with every other new release

  8. Xiyng says:

    Oh the irony. EA dislikes Steam but publishes the retail versions of Valve’s games. Here they allowed (read the article) Game to publish Portal 2 early.

    • James says:

      I think “decided (with valve’s agreement)” is different than “allowed”. It’s not very clear in the first place, which is often the case with these things. That way everybody gets to save face, which is important for lots of fancy reasons.

    • DrGonzo says:

      Valve and EA get along very well. EA don’t hate Steam, they even bought some code from Valve to use from it in their EA Downloader.

  9. Milky1985 says:

    Offical release day was today (due to easter) , i checked on both Game.co.uk and hmv.co.uk a couple of weeks back when i was deciding on which version to get (and those two WILL abide by release dates) .

    So if its released today its not early afaik :P

    • thegooseking says:

      No, it was released yesterday. XStation 360 version is released today, though.

  10. Kits says:

    I did pre-order from Game myself (digital stuff’s nice, but I also like having something a bit more solid, too) and they sent it out on tuesday, got it yesterday morning. I wasn’t aware it was due for a later release outside digital distribution though.

  11. Chris D says:

    I have a dream. In it I am a small boy again and I am being chased by a man who wants to cut off my feet and sell them on the blackmarket. It’s quite disturbing.

    I also have another dream which I like better. In it this was all part of Valve’s cunning plan to lay an irresistable trap for the retailers. Now that they have shown they’re not going to stick to previously agreed release dates they have no grounds for claiming Valve should do the same in the future. From now on all Steam games will be released at the same time for all the citizens of the world and if the retailers object Valve will look at them sadly for a moment and then simply say “Portal 2″. At this word the retailers will be unable to object and will slink away, red-faced and wishing they were better people.

  12. pheonix777 says:

    i like what valve did with portal 2′s release date making people play games from the potato sack
    very clever. Also VALVE should release a portal 3

  13. diebroken says:

    Probably because they want to take Bank holiday Friday off and play Portal 2 themselves ;)

  14. MrThingy says:

    Slightly nerdy thought about that screenshot…

    The blue portal on the right is on the wall, but the bottom part appears in front of the platform?

    aaaanyway….

    • thegooseking says:

      You can see the outlines of Portals through walls in Portal 2. Not quite sure why it’s doing it on the right, but not on the left, though.

    • Tomm says:

      I guess the outline is for portals you’ve placed with your gun. The orange portal wasn’t, therefore it isn’t.

  15. Jonathan says:

    With any luck that means my copy wot I mail-ordered will arrive soonish, as I got a shipping notice yesterday. Bizarrely, this is the first physical PC game I’ve bought since (pondering…) The Witcher, which I picked up the day it was released. All because I’m a skinflint who wanted to save £5.

  16. Kenny says:

    I liked the idea of buying Portal for my PS3 so I would then have it on my PC as well – I’d probably only play it on my PC, but then who knows when that untouched copy on the PS3 would come in handy?

    So, on launch day I go on to the PSN to download it (because online is where you get your Valve games, right?), and…

    Nothing.

    So I bought it from Steam.

    I will never know if Portal 2 became available on PSN or not.

    • Oozo says:

      Just imagining how long it would take to download the whole game on PSN makes a few dozen happy braincells die in boredom, impatience and agony. Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy with my PS3, but I always feel thrown back in dial-up modem times when I try to download anything on PSN. A game of the size of Portal 2 – I refuse to even think about it.

  17. WASD says:

    Hey, it’s more RPS Portal 2 promotion. As if it needs it.

    Where were you on the weekend Jim/RPS?

    RPS: We’re waiting for Valve to tell us if we can post an article regarding the Portal 2 promotion/ARG/scam.

    • skalpadda says:

      In what way did Valve scam people with the Portal 2 promotion? What promise or part of any deal did they not live up to?

    • WASD says:

      Maybe you should ask RPS that question. You know, as they’re GAME JOURNALISTS (but only when it suits them/are allowed to be it seems).

    • Jim Rossignol says:

      I thought the whole thing was fucking tiresome. Boring, pointless ARG marketing rubbish. Do we really need to waste more time on it?

    • skalpadda says:

      @WASD:
      I’m asking you, since you’re the one shouting accusations about it. RPS aren’t bound by any law, moral or legal, to report everything or remain neutral in all situations. The only thing we can expect as readers is that they present facts as they know them and honest opinions, but they choose what they write about.

    • WASD says:

      Thanks for sharing your opinion Jim.

      Strange how some/most of the RPS readers disagree with us though!?

    • John Walker says:

      Good grief, you silly man – you’re angry with Valve, so go tell them, not us.

      I agree with Jim. The whole thing was obfuscating nonsense that I’d much prefer the industry be without. Make games, announce release dates, sell games.

      You’re so furious you didn’t get your game a day early or whatever, so go be furious somewhere useful, and stop your constant, tedious accusations.

    • WASD says:

      Not furious. I just find it odd that neither of you have posted an article on the whole debacle?

    • Serenegoose says:

      Good gods, why is this such a big deal? It was an advertising campaign. Some people were amused by it, some people weren’t, reading any more than that into it is an exercise in delusion. Perhaps the reason they haven’t posted an article about it is that they -don’t sufficiently care- about it to do so? You evidently do, so why don’t you? I’m genuinely tired of this shit now.

    • thegooseking says:

      I think it was brilliant. It was an ARG with the emphasis on alternate reality. Valve promised the game would come early? I think you’ll find that, within the alternate reality belonging to the ARG, GLaDOS did. If you actually believed anything GLaDOS said, you either (a) are stupid, (b) weren’t paying attention in Portal 1, or (c) are unwilling to engage with a game’s fiction.

      I’ll be charitable and assume (c), but if that’s the case, it’s no wonder you have such an adversarial attitude to game developers, who routinely spawn enemies who try to shoot at you in just about every game ever. Why must they hound you so after you paid them good money?

      And that’s all I’m going to say on the matter, because frankly, even though I enjoyed the ARG, all the bitching about it was horribly tedious, and it just has to be put to rest, now.

    • Serenegoose says:

      Great Geese think alike.

    • mondomau says:

      “Not furious. I just find it odd that neither of you have posted an article on the whole debacle?”
      Alec covered the silliness here:
      http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/04/18/potano-glados-is-stealing-our-spuds/

      But I’m guessing that’s not what you mean is it?
      By article, you were after a raging,screeching denouncement of the ARG and finger-pointing tirade – which appears to be pretty much the only proof that you and like-minded conspiracy theorist/indignant nutcases will accept that RPS aren’t nestled snugly in Valve’s expansive pockets, laughing at you.

      Get a grip, man.

    • bwion says:

      I’d love to see a critical analysis of the Portal 2 marketing campaign too, not because I am ANGRY about THINGS on the INTERNET, but because I think it’d make for interesting reading. (Though I have this sneaky suspicion that anything written on the subject now would largely consist of SHUT UP SHUT UP EVERYBODY JUST SHUT UP repeated a thousand times.)

      Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to find a copy of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.

    • Dances to Podcasts says:

      1. VALVe tries to do something a bit more interesting than ‘if we get 1k Facebook likes we’ll release some screenshots’
      2. People go on great moral crusade because the result is not what they for some reason decided to expect from it
      3. Profit!

    • MrCrun says:

      @ Bwion: Do, it’s a really good book and despite being circa a hundred years old, it manages to shed light on Y2K and Princess Di. Sort of. It’s more reporting than analysing. Just the facts, Ma’am, Just the facts.

    • Joshua says:

      How is this article a Portal 2 promotion? If at all, it is a GAME promotion.

  18. WASD says:

    @mondomau; It was marketing gone wrong.
    If RPS posted an article today with the title stating that game x will be delayed, I know and so would everyone else game x won’t see the light of day for weeks/months.

    So when Valve put out the announcement “Last Chance to Pre-Purchase Portal 2, Help Release It Early”, and they then release it on THE ADVERTISED DAY OF RELEASE, you don’t think it was a bit misleading? And now factor into that the promotion/sale of the 13 indie games.

    Buy x help get y released on the advertised day of release. Yeah, nothing wrong with that…

    • DrGonzo says:

      I know right? Valve said, “get the game released early”. And then, shock fucking horror, they went and released it early! Who would have thought!?

      Valve should be shot for this, it was totally evil. The only thing worse was going on to release the best game of the year. Completely unforgivable.

    • WASD says:

      DrGonzo wrote; “Valve should be shot for this, it was totally evil.”

      Valve should be criticized for this, it was totally misleading.

    • Mario Figueiredo says:

      What you seem to want is to see Valve get the same treatment as any other company who had pulled this stunt; A public outcry, RPS articles clearly denouncing the incident and posters commenting on how evil the big corporations are.

      Not going to happen. And it is not worth finding the reasons why because truth the matter is Valve is a company that still has to go a somewhat long way to stop earning the trust and tolerance of its fans (although more stunts like this ARG are definitely a way to do it). And quite frankly, I can empathize with that. Don’t necessarily agree that such a major fuckup went a little under the table by a good portion of the press, but can understand that everyone else wants to believe things like this are one in a million when it comes to Valve and the company doesn’t deserve being chastised by what seems to have been a honest mistake perpetrated by an irresponsible marketing team.

      Over the course of three threads you have exposed your thoughts. On both sides of the camp, pretty much everyone did. I think its time you stop. What started to look like a genuine complaint is now looking like you have an agenda and as such your arguments are just losing any little weight they might still had. That is, for every new post you are making about this, you are achieving the following:

      a) You become less effective and less deserving of our reading time
      b) You strengthen the opposite position of those that defend that anyone complaining about the ARG is a hater who is going to hate.

    • thegooseking says:

      Oh, for goodness’ sake.

      The people who saw the Potato Sack as a $40 Portal 2 Early Release tax and didn’t buy it lost nothing. The people who already owned the Potato Sack games had a chance to contribute to Portal 2′s early release without spending any more, so they lost nothing, too. The people who saw the Potato Sack as a chance to get 13 decent-to-great (mostly great) games for 75% off actually gained 13 decent-to-great (mostly great) games at a great price. Funny that. The (vanishingly few, I’d imagine) people who saw the Potato Sack as a $40 Portal 2 Early Release tax and went ahead and bought it anyway really only have themselves to blame.

      Who is the injured party, here? Have I missed anyone out?

    • DrGonzo says:

      I completely disagree. They weren’t misleading in the slightest. They said it would be released early, and it was. What is your problem exactly?

      I can only presume it is that it wasn’t released significantly early? Well Valve didn’t promise that, it could have released 20 minutes early and they still kept their word.

      I think you need to start living in the real world and get some realistic expectations of what was clearly a marketing campaign. One that I happened to quite enjoy, but Jesus Christ that’s all it was.

      Usually I would hate someone saying this to someone else in an internet argument, but get some perspective on life, and possibly some friends.

    • bwion says:

      I actually do think people have some justification in being disappointed in the way the ARG marketing thing turned out. I mean, it’s arguably not Valve’s fault that a critical mass of people managed to delude themselves into thinking that ‘early’ meant days, rather than hours, but they certainly did nothing to discourage the idea. Did they have a duty to do so? I don’t know.

      That said, again, becoming a ranting maniac on the subject does no one any good. Likewise, becoming a ranting maniac on the subject of people who dare to be upset about a thing also does no one any good, and there’s quite a bit of that going on, too. Less ranting mania all around, says I.

    • thegooseking says:

      @bwion: Sorry, I said I was going to say no more about it, and then I did.

      Really, this time. I’ve stopped. Go on. Ask me about the ARG. I won’t respond. I dare you.

    • Ridnarhtim says:

      @thegooseking: So how bout that ARG, eh?

      I bought the potato sack to get 13 decent-to-great (mostly great) games for 75%. Then I found out about the potatoes, thought it might be a fun challenge, and went for it. Then I got 25 free games. Don’t think I ever got 38 games for ~£25!

    • mondomau says:

      “If RPS posted an article today with the title stating that game x will be delayed, I know and so would everyone else game x won’t see the light of day for weeks/months.

      So when Valve put out the announcement “Last Chance to Pre-Purchase Portal 2, Help Release It Early”, and they then release it on THE ADVERTISED DAY OF RELEASE, you don’t think it was a bit misleading? And now factor into that the promotion/sale of the 13 indie games.

      Buy x help get y released on the advertised day of release. Yeah, nothing wrong with that…”

      @WASD
      Jesus, I feel like I need a portal gun of my own to get onto whatever tangential plane you are currently operating on.

      1. You cast dispersions on RPS’s jounalistic integrity, using incredibly shaky reasoning
      2. I pointed out that your arguments concerning RPS (specifically) were wrong and that, moreover, you should calm the fuck down.
      3. You come back with a (quite logically sound but still somewhat melodramatic) argument for why Valve’s ARG was a bit poo.
      4. I am utterly confused as to what we are talking about.

    • Dances to Podcasts says:

      “Buy six cans of Coke and you can win a car!”

      *Buys six cans of Coke*

      WHERE’S MY CAR???

    • Muzman says:

      Up the page there, doesn’t WASD agree with Jim that no more time need be wasted on the ARG thing. Yet he wants articles or their journalistic integrity is as a spud before the frost.
      Don’t make no sense.

      Anyway, it’s bound to come up in some post release interview with Valve honchos so who cares.

    • Nogo says:

      No doubt the ARG was designed to be won fairly close to release day (which was evident after only half a day or so) because Valve wouldn’t be so foolish to favor one platform by such a wide margin.

      However it was the community that failed to meet Glados’s release terms in a satisfactory margin, in your opinion, so why all the criticism of valve?

      Furthermore, I doubt you were a worthy contributor since I imagine your tune would be way different had you received the Valve pack for free.

    • WASD says:

      mondomau wrote: “@WASD
      Jesus, I feel like I need a portal gun of my own to get onto whatever tangential plane you are currently operating on.

      1. You cast dispersions on RPS’s jounalistic integrity, using incredibly shaky reasoning
      2. I pointed out that your arguments concerning RPS (specifically) were wrong and that, moreover, you should calm the fuck down.
      3. You come back with a (quite logically sound but still somewhat melodramatic) argument for why Valve’s ARG was a bit poo.
      4. I am utterly confused as to what we are talking about.”

      I don’t think I needed to add, ‘so why hasn’t RPS covered it’ again.

  19. stickboy2002 says:

    Seriously everyone this argument has gone on far too long (I’m looking at you WASD), the horse is dead! I’m no veterinarian so I can’t tell you whether it was the first shot or the 65th shot, but I can tell you it is very dead!

  20. Acefrog says:

    I heard you get a PC version of the game of you purchase the PS3 version, is this still true?

    • WASD says:

      Yeah, that’s correct.

    • Ridnarhtim says:

      However, it’s also more expensive. Personally, I didn’t see any reason I’d play it on the ps3, so it wasn’t worth the extra 8 quid.

  21. Jonneh says:

    I find this hillarious after Game gave me a load of guff and red tape excuses as to why my Starcraft 2 couldn’t be sent to arrive early, dispite it being a game which was locked an unavailable to be played until a global online release.

    Double standard Game, or did you finally listen to the feedback from me and others that your rigid, inflexable and useless letter-of-the-law code of conduct was just going to lose you money as more and more games just get downloaded instead?

    Personally, I buy digital copies of any game I want to play now. Waiting for Game (and other retailers) to wise up and give the customer what they want instead of excuses about the postman just got old, fast.

  22. Ridnarhtim says:

    Game are awesome =) Their customer service is great and delivers are free and fast.

  23. MonkeyMonster says:

    i could post my comment frm the other thread but if I were to – I think i’m following the same trend as quite a few on here already…
    oooh – 591 scotch eggs consumed. which fatteh was that :D

  24. mwoody says:

    Every time these threads come up, I’m a little confused. “Tuesday is before Friday, so the US gets games earlier,” people cry. But, isn’t there a Friday before every Tuesday? If UK retailers MUST release on a Friday, why is it written in stone that they do so on the one AFTER the US?

    Of course, global simultaneous release makes more sense overall and should be the goal. But still, the underlying argument of Friday coming after Tuesday in a cyclical system is just odd to me.

    • thegooseking says:

      Putting the cart before the horse a bit, there. There’s no reason the UK shouldn’t get the game on the Friday before the Tuesday the US gets it, for a change. But this never happens. If we got some games earlier and some games later, there wouldn’t be nearly so much cause for complaint. But we get most games later (and some games at the same time).

  25. sexyresults says:

    Who cares about the ARG? Portal 2 is brilliant

  26. Vandelay says:

    On the Portal 2 ARG, which rises its head once again on a subject that isn’t really related, are people actually angry? Honest question, as I seem to see may more people angry at a small minority of people angry about the ARG.

    I followed the thing from a slight distance, probably reading about it here, the Steam forums and the Wiki more than actually getting involved, but most people seemed to be getting into the spirit of the thing. There were a few people complaining during the Glados@home portion, but literally about 3 or 4 people in massive discussions. That includes the Steam Forums, which is hardly the pillar of calm and well thoughtout discussion. Do Valve really need to answer to these people just because some of them shout the most?

    I would love to see a discussion with Valve about the ARG, not to answer for some kind of betrayal, but because it was an unique and engaging form of marketting that got a lot of people talking. I want to know how much went wrong, which aspects were controlled and what was completely left to the community, what did people miss, etc. I don’t want them down on their knees, begging for our mercy. (In fact, the worst part of the ARG was the trolling hints of Ep3, not made from Valve.)

    As for Game, glad they are starting to see sense, but shouldn’t they have known ages ago that it would be out on Steam on the 19th? That has been the release date for quite some time, if they paid any attention to PC new, they would know this.

  27. Zern says:

    Just wanted to throw in that the game had been available in german stores at least since wednesday. Picked it up then for 42€.