Bethesda Can Do Basic Maths, Prove It

By Quintin Smith on May 6th, 2011 at 2:56 pm.

Bethesda’s sent VG247 some stats relating to Brink prior to the game’s release one week from now. There’s no actual story here, but these numbers are too mad to not post. I guess you could argue that they’re a statement of precisely how much work goes into the modern videogame, but instead I’m going to simply raise both my arms into the air, start spacking them every which way like a bugged ragdoll animation and scream the following:

Brink has 102,247,681,536,000,000 possible characters variations. And that’s just the start.

It also has – wait for it –

# Number of ways to die – 45
# Lines of dialogue – 26,000
# Individual weapon sounds – 4,500
# Voice Packs – 8
# Minutes of Music – 60
# Weapon/attachment combinations (not counting Resistance variations or pre-order content) – 4963
# Unique Security Characters (not counting minor tint variations or body types) – 4,530,240
# Unique Security Characters (not counting minor tint variations but including body types) – 13,590,720
# Unique Security Characters (including minor tint variations, but not body types) – 15,775,119,360,000,000
# Unique Security Characters (including minor tint variations and body types)- 47,325,358,080,000,000
# Unique Resistance Characters (not counting minor tint variations or body types) – 4,530,240
# Unique Resistance Characters (not counting minor tint variations but including body types) – 13,590,720
# Unique Resistance Characters (including minor tint variations, but not body types) – 18,307,441,152,000,000
# Unique Resistance Characters (including minor tint variations and body types) – 54,922,323,456,000,000

The 26,000 lines of dialogue can be divided by however many countries the game’s been localised into, but 45 ways to die?

Let’s see. There’s getting shot, getting blown up, getting melee’d, falling off something, falling into some water… uh, being, getting… hit by a, uh, bird? No, I have no idea. How many is that? Six? OK. Some explanation is in order, guys.

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    James G says:

    * Time travelling and preventing yourself from being born
    * Walking into a dark cavern without fireberries
    * Leaving a hotel with a stolen map still in your pocket
    * Staying under water for longer than 10 minutes

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      Buzko says:

      * Walking outside with a condom on
      * Not knowing what a torque wrench was
      * Walking up to the driver along the highway side of the car
      * Being eaten by a grue

    • Baboonanza says:

      * Choking on a pretzel
      * Sneezing so hard your eyes fall out
      * Copulation with a grizzly bear
      * Dying peacefully in your bed surrounded by friends and family (highly unlikely)

    • calavera says:

      * Playing computer games for 100 hours straight
      * Using your forehead as a hammer
      * Picking a fight with Chuck Norris
      * Living in Detroit

    • Birdman Tribe Leader says:

      * Making yourself cease to exist by sheer force of will
      * Trying to climb a rope on a snowy mountain without a warm cloak on
      * Casting the Thermonuclear Blast spell
      * Allowing yourself to be slowly lowered into an incinerator

    • Grinnbarr says:

      * Overdosing on revive syringes
      * Sharpening pencils, sticking them up your nose, headbutting a table
      * Falling into a sausage machine
      * Swallowing Turian semen

    • Faxmachinen says:

      Preventing yourself from being born also prevents you from dying. You could however kill yourself.

    • Daniel Klein says:

      * Overdosing on suicide syringes
      * Ferrets
      * Toxaemia from infected toe-nail
      * Sudden Infant Death Syndrome

    • Kaira- says:

      * Kicking a bucket

    • V. Profane says:

      A parachute not opening… that’s a way to die. Getting caught in the gears of a combine… having your nuts bit off by a Laplander, that’s the way I wanna go!

    • McDan says:

      *the cancers (of any kind, it’s too easy to just list them all)
      * backflip into a speeding truck which then explodes
      *infinite portal loop to build up speed then aim one into the ground somewhere outside, without the boots on
      * not getting the tha choppa.

    • lethu says:

      * Choking on a pretzel

      Ah, classic!

    • tyrsius says:

      @Daniel Klein

      Is there a proper dose for suicide syringes?

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      Man Raised by Puffins says:

      * Hit wicket

    • Baboonanza says:

      Is there a proper dose for suicide syringes? Zero or one, depending on the desired effect.

      * Drinking a potion of Incredibly High Jump without thinking ahead…

    • Inigo says:

      *Ignoring Eccles
      * Accepting that fresh, delicious, cucumber from Neddie Seagoon
      *Volunteering to walk into that cave full of dangerous, Bluebottle-deading dynamite
      *Riding that rotten swine horse off a cliff

    • Glycerine says:

      * Running onto a tube train
      * Walking too slowly past a police line

      *ducks*

    • Chris D says:

      *Quaffing ill-advisedly
      *Partial teleportation
      *Extreme enema
      *Attempting to acquire a pet squirrel on a Tuesday

      @Man raised by Puffins

      Nice reference

    • godgoo says:

      * waiting patiently

    • omicron1 says:

      * Wearing unidentified amulets
      * Eating unidentified eggs
      * Wielding cockatrice corpses while burdened
      * Moving while blind and not wearing gloves
      * Fighting eels without magical breathing
      * Encountering that one-in-a-million gnome
      * Army Ants
      * Undead elephants
      * Carp
      * Kicking a wall
      * Eating Death
      * Engulfed by Jubilex
      * Breaking charged wands
      * Firing wands at a parallel wall
      * Polymorphing
      * Angering Izchak
      * Praying too many times in a row
      * Praying too many times in a row while lightning resistant
      * Sacrificing your own race
      * Scroll of Genocide
      * Wander into Fort Ludios unprepared
      * Get level drained too many times
      * Mind flayers
      * Leave the dungeon early
      * Black dragon
      * Play as a tourist

      Am I doing it right?

    • PoLLeNSKi says:

      Some movie inspired suggestions:

      * Head put in a vice by mobsters after attempting to cheat at cards.
      * Alien bursts out of chest.
      * Sitting on top of an A-bomb trying to release the release mechanism and riding it like a cowboy when it finally does.
      * Eaten by a shark.

    • calavera says:

      @omicron1: if your definition of doing it right involves pushing your logfile into the MBs, then yes.

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      tomeoftom says:

      *Using adhesives
      *Listing too far in either direction
      *Forgetting you’re made out of atoms
      *Understanding quantum mechanics

    • Bhazor says:

      * Choosing not to sexually molest a gypsy fortune teller and then petting her stuffed lizard.
      * Picking your nose
      * Walking into Mordor.

    • Senethro says:

      Gonna actually try to guess this.

      There are slightly over 20 weapons, so I’m going with
      1-21: Shot by a gun
      22-42: Getting beaten over the head by a gun
      43-44: Different flavours of grenade
      45: Getting knifed.

    • Urthman says:

      * riding ‘s rocket into oblivion
      * Failure to conserve vital resources.
      * dreams dashed on the rocks below
      * losing your machine, TOO BAD!
      * killed by a sewer rat, while helpless
      * petrified by a cockatrice corpse
      * slipped while mounting a saddled pony
      * poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse
      * choked on a tin of spinach
      * zapping yourself with a wand
      * crushed by a closing drawbridge
      * JUMPING INTO A SWORD, YOU RETARD
      * No no no, that’s not the way it happened.

    • Shih Tzu says:

      * Marrying a demon-possessed psychopath who subsequently stabs you with gardening tools
      * Marrying a demon-possessed psychopath who subsequently stabs you with a wine bottle
      * Marrying a demon-possessed psychopath who subsequently gags you and twists your neck
      * Marrying a demon-possessed psychopath who subsequently forces animal entrails down your throat

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      phuzz says:

      * Driving a truck off cliff with a kidnapped groundhog
      * Dropping a working toaster into the bath in which you’re sitting
      * Getting hit by a truck
      * Jumping off a bell tower

    • Dhatz says:

      *exploding from 1hour laughter at only 1 hour of music
      *not catching a bullet between your teeth. you fucking LOSER! six times in row!
      *getting anally probed by drone from Sporeout 3 part 2
      *having sex with radioactive homos
      *being hit by bowel disruptor and dying of shitting
      *from screaming in terror when the game glitches on you
      *tearing the earth apart
      §going to the fucking limbo!
      *eating too many easter eggs
      /inverting yourself inside out
      /getting chomped to death by an ant(approximaely after 3 months of stoicism)
      -going 88Mph in reverse and getting killed by archeopteron piss rain
      +sticking your genitalia in a black hole
      “doing your homework
      !doing someone else’s homework
      °K
      ~doing not compute

    • Arglebargle says:

      Getting eaten by a slavering grue….

    • .backslash says:

      *scurvy
      *getting your arms ripped out of their sockets and being beaten to death with your own fists
      *forgetting the safe word
      *noodle accident
      *passing out in a trash can and being crushed to death in a garbage truck
      *gaming induced rickets
      *failing to find the dead mechanic and getting your helicopter blown up
      *a bomb
      *what a shame
      *electronic old men
      *zombies

    • MrWeed says:

      * Having both of your arms tied on your back while fighting with a kickboxer
      * Being backstabbed by your mother with an old kitchen knife
      * Having a conversation with a robot
      * Getting hit by a rock
      * Being eaten by a polar bear
      * Getting run over by a train
      * Being molested by a clown
      * Jumping into a lava pit

      and finally:

      * Being in the same room as Osama Bin Laden

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      dartt says:

      * Cyborg killswitch.
      * Gray Death.
      * LAM fumbling.
      * Sawbladed in twain by physicist.
      * Lupus
      * Shot by US Deputy Marshal.
      * Sunk by the lucky guess of a child.
      * Blown in to space through tiny hole.
      * Arms crushed off by Martian elevator.
      * Ordered in to spear wall by inept commander.
      * Cast in to warp by upset Loser.
      * Tripping on kerb and landing on iron railing.

    • Firkragg says:

      * Calling The Librarian a monkey

    • Tei says:

      * trying to outsmart bullets
      * using the chair in the execution room
      * failing from a building, and failing to learn to fly
      * watching the full trylogy of LOTR withouth drinking anything
      * accidentally the whole thing

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      Flimgoblin says:

      * Listen to the second worst poetry in the universe

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      Daiv says:

      * Death by airlock failure
      * Death by brain parasite
      * Death by sonic diarrhea

      I hear you really don’t want that one.

      * Successfully dividing by zero
      * Iterating recursively in the real world
      * Reading write-only memory
      * Unwinding the stack far, far too far

    • LintMan says:

      *You Just slip out the back, Jack
      *Make a new plan, Stan
      *You don’t need to be coy, Roy
      *Just get yourself free

      Wait – what were we talking about again?

    • Lord Byte says:

      Y’all forgot:
      *SSSSSsssssssss….

    • Chalee says:

      *ZEITGEIST – BOOM

    • Exitalterego says:

      * Total Protonic Reversal

    • DJ Phantoon says:

      Lemons.

  2. Eraysor says:

    I’d prefer it if there were 99 ways to die.

  3. maybe an idiot says:

    50 ways to leave your lover but 45 ways to die. Have more variety in your life, make love not war.

    • Dhatz says:

      what do we kno there aint 60 000 000 000 045 deaths and we have eyes open only during 45 of those!

  4. Batolemaeus says:

    Is this kinda like the gazillion promised endings in Fallout 3?

  5. G says:

    I expect at least 6,000,000 ways to die. And to be told to choose one.

    • Birdman Tribe Leader says:

      I prefer to make it 6 million and 1 with my eyes closed.

    • Squirrelfanatic says:

      I want to kill 60 million and choosing which 1 with my eyes closed.

    • somini says:

      Two questions arise:
      -Why the Euthanasia Coaster isn’t a ride in every Six Flags?
      -Can it be done in RollerCoaster Tycoon?

    • calavera says:

      This is the best thing I’ve ever read on wikipedia.

    • Stephen Roberts says:

      “Depending on the tolerance of an individual passenger to g-forces, the first or second inversion would cause cerebral anoxia, rendering the passengers brain dead.”

      Aagghgh. That sounds so painful. So very painful. I think I’d rather be crushed by an elephant at the moment of climax with some concubines.

      Or be immortal. I’d rather that, if we’re being non-specific.

    • Baboonanza says:

      I’d rather be crushed by concubines at the moment of climax with an elephant, but each to their own.

    • calavera says:

      It takes different strokes to rule the world.

  6. pandora says:

    Best dota ever.

  7. BigJonno says:

    I have it on good authority that there are a million ways that they can bury you alive.

  8. Alextended says:

    About as impressive as the “200 DIFFERENT ENDINGS!” for Fallout 3 I’d say.

  9. Spliter says:

    in those 45 ways to die they probably include “being shot by a pistol” and “being shot by a shotgun” as two separate ones.
    Bah! I say!
    Bah!
    if so then TF2 has over 100 ways to die!

  10. Rii says:

    What meaningless noise. Shame on the media for disseminating it. Yes, the wondrous process of multiplication can cause small numbers to become surprisingly large with surprising rapidity. If you start with a penny and double your money each day, by the end of the month you’ll be a multi-millionaire. Will wonders never cease?

  11. theleif says:

    Well, it’s not as impressive as it sounds.
    Made a quick calculation, based on a modest character creator.
    10 boots
    10 lower legs
    10 upper legs
    10 torso
    10 lower arms
    10 upper arms
    10 heads
    10 hats
    10 tattoos
    10 sunglasses
    10 hairstyles
    = 100.000.000.000 combinations.
    Still, i can’t complain.
    Looking forward to the game.
    Cheers

    Edit: What Rii said.

  12. meklu says:

    Nah, a hundred quadrillion ain’t much.

  13. cliffski says:

    but will it be fun?

    • Quintin Smith says:

      You what now?

    • Malawi Frontier Guard says:

      You don’t know what fun is, you just do as you’re told.

    • karry says:

      Remember Bubsy ? The first game that actually advertised having an enormous amount of ways to die. Sorry, but if i’m supposed to be dying all the time to see content proper…how does that make a good game ? And indeed it was shit.

    • DJ Phantoon says:

      Yes, it will have hats.

      Fun is another word for hats, right?

  14. MrMud says:

    102,247,681,536,000,000 and you still cant play as a girl…

    • Hellraiserzlo says:

      Boys are supposed to play with girls, boys playing as girls are doing it wrong.(which I have nothing against btw)

    • torchedEARTH says:

      Yes, that is very poor. Maybe it will be free DLC or something. But seriously,

      What a shame.

    • Bhazor says:

      Over 8,992,332,122,211 varieties of breast (including minor tint and areola variations)

    • wererogue says:

      This.

      Splash Damage came from mods, so I’m hoping they’ve provided the tools for the community to fix this glaring bug.

  15. Tei says:

    I think this can be a reaction to the lack of a Kemonomimi race in the game. Only human male?
    Boooooooooooooring!.

  16. somini says:

    Brink has 1.02 × 10^17 possible characters variations.
    19 ! = 1.216451 × 10^17, so there are almost the same number of variations for me to stack 19 of anything.

    Just basic maths…

    • Baggypants says:

      Actually, that sounds like a great method of character creation
      Stack 19 things

      Book,
      Car,
      rat,
      sandwich,
      Golfball
      etc,

      Your Char:- Generic Marine with a tribal tat.

    • mwoody says:

      Ohhh, here I am trying to figure out how “19 != 1.216451 × 10^17″ is at all relevant. ‘Always was more of a coder than a mathematician.

    • Thants says:

      Pfft, what kind of idiot would ever confuse “19! =” with “19 !=”?
      (Kidding, kidding)

    • somini says:

      The test is how do you read 19! “Nineteen!!” or “nineteen factorial”.

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    SeanybabeS says:

    Poor voice packs.

    Just can’t hang it with the big numbers.

  18. Njordsk says:

    I just want the game.

    long long 4 days

  19. Megadyptes says:

    I wonder how many character variations you can make in Saints Row 2?

  20. Soon says:

    Could we have screenshots of each? I want to pick the best one.

  21. Jake says:

    Eleventy-million different character variations and they all look like they think skateboarding is awesome.

  22. bleeters says:

    What, no ‘number of possible character genders’?

  23. Curvespace says:

    Meaningless. There are supposedly more variations possible in a game of Go than there are atoms in the known universe.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(game)#Nature_of_the_game

    I once figured out how many possible variations of sandwich there were at my local sandwich shop. Given the choice of five different fillings, plus one of three types of meat, four types of bread and an assortment of fifty (yes, fifty) additional fillings and salads, the numbers got huge. Still, it’s all about the quality of the ingredients, right?

    Sandwiches are better than statistics.

    • bleeters says:

      You’re making me hungry.

    • Jake says:

      There’s always one arsehole holding up the queue.

    • Curvespace says:

      Hahahahah :)

    • chansu says:

      Meaningless but sometimes fun.

      Possible combinations or variations of things have a tendency to snowball into silly numbers. I first saw the extent of this when attempting to compute how many distinct 50×50 pixel images are possible. While expecting a large number, I did not expect a number so large that these pictures could not all be computed – let alone stored – before the heat-death of the universe. Even if they are grayscale.

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    LarsBR says:

    Shot in the back, shot in the face, shot in the back of the head, shot in the crotch, shot in the right eye, shot in the left eye. Anyway, like I was sayin’, shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey’s uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There’s pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. You can be knocked over by a molotov and shot in the face, knocked over by a molotov and shot in the back in the head, there’s bacon and shrimp, …

  25. Mario Figueiredo says:

    1. Getting Shot
    2. Getting blown up
    3. Getting fragged (grenade)
    4. Getting sliced in half (1/3, 2/4, 8/9s…)
    5. Getting meleed
    6. Falling
    7. Getting crushed
    8. Getting run over
    9. Drowning
    10. Burning
    11. Acid
    12. Impaled
    13. Smashed (against wall, etc)
    14. Electrocuted
    15. Getting torn apart
    16. Poisoned

    29 to go

    • Hallgrim says:

      Getting shot in the {head, body} by one of {23 guns}, grenades, falling, melee.

  26. qrter says:

    Sixty minutes of music..? That doesn’t sound like a lot, to me, but maybe I’m being silly.

    • Hunam says:

      Well.. music in games that don’t use licensed soundtracks isn’t as prominent as it once was. Maybe it’s just audio maturity as most western games don’t have BMG’s blaring out any more. I think back in the day music was just used more because there was less they could do with audio.

    • Tei says:

      It really depends. Maybe is a 8bits 2 second loop that play for 60 minutes.

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      tomeoftom says:

      Now I really want to make a team-based FPS where the levels change dynamically with the music, and you do extra damage by firing and doing acrobatics (wall-runs, jump pads, rocket jumps) in time with randomly-generated and physically represented (ie hovering powerups) rhythms. OH and combo moves with teammates where you have to sing complex harmonies into the mic while leapfrogging one another.

  27. Flappybat says:

    Games journalists wowed by the potential of RGB sliders!

    Pallete swapped enemies should make a come back, it would make a great stat for hype.

    Face 16,777,216 enemy combinations!

  28. Decimae says:

    Bethesda can’t do basic math. According to my calculations, there are:
    3 Body types.
    3482181818 + 3/11 minor tint variations for security guards
    4041163636 + 4/11 minor tint variations for the resistance

  29. Moonracer says:

    Like others have said. All that variation and still everyone looks the same in the pics we’ve seen. There should just be a slider between Skater-Punk and Pro-Wrestler. Which do you want to look more like? The characters do look nice though, within that range.

    Still, the gameplay sounds quite good. I’m looking forward to hearing what people think when it’s released. I may have to pick this one up.

  30. Squirrelfanatic says:

    102,247,681,536,000,000 possible characters variations.

    One gender.

    Fail.

  31. Tokjos says:

    Related to a comment above:

    I checked wikipedia for torque wrench, and i’ve drawn the conclusion that “Mechatronic torque wrench” is the most awesome name for a tool ever.

    Mechatronic.

  32. Caleo says:

    Why so longface.jpg?

  33. poop says:

    eleventy billion character combinations but i bet that on release 1/4th of characters will be joker cosplayers

    same shit happened with apb

  34. Dances to Podcasts says:

    Firing a gun is a binary choice. Either you pull the trigger or you don’t.

  35. TariqOne says:

    102,247,681,536,000,000 possible character variations and not one of them a female.

  36. the_real_jb says:

    And 0 demos.

  37. Dreamhacker says:

    “# Unique Resistance Characters (including minor tint variations and body types) – 54,922,323,456,000,000″
    DEBUG NIGHTMARE :)

  38. Coins says:

    Late to the party, I know. But Brink would be a flagship game if it did indeed ship with female characters. Also, Bethesda would have my money for the rest of their existence.

  39. kennycrown says:

    Preventing yourself from being born also prevents you from dying. You could however kill yourself.