Overgrowth Still Going, Awesome Footage

By Jim Rossignol on August 31st, 2011 at 9:27 am.

Ugly business.
Breathtaking indie furry fighting gaming Overgrowth is still growing to full size in the warm, fleshy pouch of pre-order funded development, but the videos released by the team are beginning to really show where all that time and effort are going. Honestly, this is the best video of anthropomorphic rabbits kicking the living shit out of each other that you are going to see today. Watch it.

(Thanks to everyone who sent this in.)

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  1. Dominic White says:

    The previous couple of alpha videos are even more impressive than this one. But yeah, it’s bloody impressive stuff – emphasis on the blood, which is probably the most brutally realistic I’ve seen in ANY game. The animation and detail in general really are top notch by AAA standards, let alone indie.

    It’s good to see where the Humble Tip part of the Humble Indie Bundle these past few years has been going – into funding this.

    • Jim Rossignol says:

      “The previous couple of alpha videos are even more impressive than this one. ”

      That’s all anyone ever says when we post something from Overgrowth. Frankly, I can’t be arsed watching that many videos of angry rabbits.

    • Dominic White says:

      I really do mean the previous couple – this one they just added weapon blocking. The last couple had much-improved AI and a really flashy dodging system.

      The most impressive thing is that the combat engine is 90% contextual. There’s only two buttons used for actual fighting, and other than WSAD, you’ve only got jump, crouch and grab/use buttons.

    • uthere1 says:

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    • uthere1 says:

      pretty sure they said that money from the humble bundle tip went into a seperate company wolfire made called humble bundle inc. i think the money mostly went to keeping all the servers and stuff up and hopefully getting a new humble bundle out there.

    • Anton says:

      @uthere1 : +1

      “It’s good to see where the Humble Tip part of the Humble Indie Bundle these past few years has been going – into funding this.”

      – AFAIK the Humble Tip goes to the servers and maintenance of the Humble Bundle site based on the fine print in the site itself. If Wolfire were to use those funds for their personal gain, well, let’s just say that’ll be foolish of them =P

    • LionsPhil says:

      Pretty much all the tech he shows off is impressive. I hope he thinks up some way to license it nicely to other indies; previous game Lugaru is open-source now, but letting people do something interesting with this tech while it’s still actually outdoing professional work (I’ve not seen anything else do blood so well) would be a bonus.

      Just a shame I have absolutely zero interest in a beat’em’up.

    • Sweetz says:

      “That’s all anyone ever says when we post something from Overgrowth.”

      Really? I thought it would be something more along of the lines of: “myeah, but…furries” *shiver*

    • Tuco says:

      @Dominic White: I agree, the dodge system was *neat*.

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    Paraquat says:

    That last scene is harrowing.

    • Jaffo says:

      You’re not wrong. Imagine something like that in an ArmA game, the press would have a field day!

    • Jams O'Donnell says:

      What, you mean like the guys bleeding out in Cannon Fodder? ;)

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      Zunt says:

      That was the best bit! I nearly laughed myself sick as the developer cheerfully explained how to pre-order while we gazed into the black black eyes of a anthro-rabbit as its life blood spurted out through its throat.

      Wait, does that sound bad?

    • westyfield says:

      I was sort of curling up in my seat (I’m not normally squeamish about games, but that spray… eurgh), hands clutched to my throat, whilst simultaneously laughing really hard.

    • wcaypahwat says:

      did you mean… hare-owing?

      …sorry.

    • hydra9 says:

      “That’s it for this week!”

      * jugular death *

    • LionsPhil says:

      I take it you’re not cat owners.

    • Berzee says:

      Agreed.

      LionsPhil, no, but I used to be and one time my cat caught a rabbit and it made the most horrible noises I have ever heard come out of an animal. :(

    • westyfield says:

      @ LionsPhil
      Actually, yes, but they are cats of such incredible stupidity and clumsiness that the largest thing either has caught has been a small blackbird. Which he promptly dropped and watched as it flew away.

  3. JackDandy says:

    Watching the bunnyman bleeding to death in the end was kinda unsettling.

    But I digress! The fighting looks good, but I wonder how the actual game will tie it all together.

    • Dominic White says:

      Given that it’s a fighting game, if the core combat is good then all you need is some halfway logical levels to string a campaign together in. It’s nice that they’re focusing on the important stuff first. Combat engine and simulation first and foremost, then build a coherent game around it.

  4. Kdansky says:

    I just cannot get over the uncanny valley of anthro-rabbits. It just creeps me out way too much.

    • wearedevo says:

      Anthro-rabbits aren’t in uncanny valley territory. Uncanny valley is when something looks 99.9% human but there’s just something unnervingly… off… about it.

      These are just regular ol’ creepy.

    • Ogun says:

      Amen. Pre-ordered this ages ago with Natural Selection, and looking forward to it – but don’t know if I’ll be able to play it because it makes me think of furries, and they creep me out something awful.

    • Dominic White says:

      The reason they went with animals is because you’ll feel LESS creepy if you do something like, say, slitting their throat and letting them writhe around in the desert, venting arterial spray into the sand until they expire. Like in that video. Ouch.

      Just think of it as Watership Down meets Conan the Barbarian.

      Also, it makes for clearly defined character classes. A Rabbit is going to be lighter and jump higher and be kickier than, say, a Wolf, who is going to be tough and heavy and use swinging punches/claw attacks.

    • Kdansky says:

      Well, don’t they look very human? The motions, the posture, the arms, basically anything except legs and head? It might just be regular furry-creepy though.

      Why rabbits? Couldn’t Overgrowth have sported humans? Then I could actually enjoy it. :(

      As for the argument that it makes it easier to slit someone’s throat: I do not see the advantage. If you want to show explicit brutality, why bother hiding it? That’s as doublethink as it gets.

    • Ogun says:

      I get why they’ve might’ve had to do what they’ve done (even if that isn’t why they did it).
      Furries have basically ruined anthropomorphism.

    • Alexander Norris says:

      Those animals don’t have human facial features and aren’t nearly sexualised enough for this to be furry. It’s Mouse Guard or Redwall, not what you find in the dregs of the Internet.

    • Balobam says:

      Or you could just think of it as a game in which you have gone undercover as a furry, to infiltrate their groups and meet the heads of the furry organisation where you would promptly murder them in an incredibly visceral way to decimate the furry ranks.

      I’m all for that.

    • MikoSquiz says:

      Surely ‘furry’ is the generic term, like ‘sci fi’ for stuff with spaceships and what have you.

    • Ravenholme says:

      Alexander Norris just described my thoughts on the matter. This isn’t exaggerated anthromorphism, so that they look more like humans morphed into animals, this is much more in the school of things like Redwall, which I loved as a kiddo (and which, going by the cover illustrations, literally was just animals getting up on their hindpaws with some minor anthromorphication).

      Personally, I’m looking forward to giving the Wolves some blood and vinegar, Long Patrol style

    • MikoSquiz says:

      Also, holy crap. For all the Kirk/Spock slash out there, you never find people fantasizing about slaughtering Trekkies en masse, even on Internet comment sections. Manga geeks.. well, not as much.

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      Biscuitry says:

      @Dominic White

      I’m not sure it needs the “meets Conan” qualifier. Watership Down was pretty brutal to start with.

    • mejoff says:

      Balobam, did you just advocate killing people for their harmeless sexual preferences?

      I think you just did.

      That’s… really not OK.

    • Berzee says:

      So much racism in this thread.

      Edit: EULALIAAAAAAAA and all that, wot?

    • LionsPhil says:

      Calling mocking furries on the Internet “racism” is more offensive than their proclivities could ever be.

    • Berzee says:

      lionsphil furries i think are not a race although you may be right i am ignorant of many things but that is not what i meant

      imeant

      racism against rabbits

    • mejoff says:

      No, seriously guys,

      “Or you could just think of it as a game in which you have gone undercover as a furry, to infiltrate their groups and meet the heads of the furry organisation where you would promptly murder them in an incredibly visceral way to decimate the furry ranks.

      I’m all for that.”

      Isn’t mocking.

      Let’s try the old ‘if we said’ game.

      If we said.

      “Or you could just think of it as a game in which you have gone undercover as a gay, to infiltrate their groups and meet the heads of the gay organisation where you would promptly murder them in an incredibly visceral way to decimate the gay ranks.

      I’m all for that.”

      Would that have been allowed to pass without comment?

    • pipman3000 says:

      Probably. The RPS comment sections can get pretty damn gross at times.

    • LionsPhil says:

      You could also substitute in “pedophiles”, if you wanted to make a slightly different ridiculous straw man. (Spoiler: the comment is hurr because “bloodily murdering the bad people” is hurr. And, yes, I do see the irony in saying that on a site about computer games.)

      In before long and stupid argument about if you choose to be X or are born that way, and if that excuses being X, and why my X is more legitimate than your X.

    • mejoff says:

      NO, actually, you couldn’t. Furries are consenting adults.

      And the ‘bigotry is bigotry’ argument isn’t a straw man.

    • Alexander Norris says:

      @mejoff: furries are not a race.

      They’re not a sexual orientation, either. They are a fetish, which for some reason some people feel they need to loudly and obnoxiously share with everyone.

      Comparing a dislike of obnoxious fetishists to actual racism or homophobia is not only incredibly demeaning and disrespectful of the struggles that those social groups have gone through to get the recognition they are due (and in the case of gay rights, still haven’t got), it’s also fucking stupid.

      There is no persecution of furries.

      I mean, it doesn’t make Ravenholme’s comment any funnier or any less stupid but you are execrable if you think a few people telling “furries” to shut up about their fetish is in any way comparable to the systemic and systematic discrimination faced by gay people or Afro-Americans.

    • LionsPhil says:

      Rabbits can’t consent.

      Also, Alexander Norris’s comment is the full, gentlemanly counterargument to this whole thing.

    • Zyrusticae says:

      I don’t understand.

      Why do the people who fetishize this stuff suddenly make everything anthro-related creepy or terrible?

      It’s absurd, really. I think if you find this creepy you proooobably need to get your mind out of the gutter. It’s really no one’s fault but your own.

    • mejoff says:

      @ AlexanderNorris

      I never claimed they were a race, stop putting other people’s comments in my mouth.

      There is plenty of discrimination against furries, look at this thread for evidence galore.

      Everything you say, I’ve heard homophobes say about gay men, so where does that leave us?

      There’s no point being not-racist, and not-homophobic if all you’re going to do with it is find another more obscure minority to hate on instead.

      Also, there’s a difference between asking someone not to discuss their sexual practices with you, and talking about killing them.

    • LionsPhil says:

      That’s right, folks. Being picked on on the Internet is exactly the same as being rounded up and gassed by the Nazis.

    • yourgrandma says:

      Why must this furry discussion always appear every time this game is featured? I managed to play though plenty of games featuring humanoid animals with out thinking about it being creepy. If you find it creepy i think you may have some sort of dormant personal problem.

    • Chris D says:

      Alright someone explain to me why furries are supposed to be bad because I really haven’t seen any kind of rational argument for this. Not going to buy the vocally obnoxious fetishists angle because everything here has been started by the anti crowd.

      Also who the hell sees a game about fighting rabbits and immediately thinks “Some people want to have sex with those, therefore I must avert my gaze!”

    • Berzee says:

      Hi guise, remember how Kdansky posted the original comment on this thread and it was about furries?

      Wait…huh, I guess it wasn’t.

    • Alexander Norris says:

      @mejoff: you’re right; sorry. You compared furry fetishism to homosexuality; I mixed your comment up with Berzee’s.

      It was still a moronic comparison for the reasons I listed.

      @Chris D: protip: you’re better off asking the group that dislikes why they dislike than the group that is disliked.

      In other words, it’s mostly the vocally obnoxious fetishists. “Look at me! I like to think I’m an animal and imagine myself having sex with a humanoid vixen! Don’t tell me you don’t want to know that, not telling me how special I am is persecution! You’re a Nazi and murder Jews!” as opposed to normal people, you know, keeping their fondness for BDSM or pegging to themselves.

      It’s the fucking Internet; anyone who actually, genuinely thinks the problem with furries is their specific fetish is a complete hypocrite (because theirs is going to be equally as repulsive to other people). I’ve met surprisingly few of those people, and I have served time in 4chan.

    • Berzee says:

      My comment was about rabbits
      not furries
      rabbits.
      They’re an animal.

    • Josh W says:

      Who in this case can use swords.

      Personally I’m all for it, a bit of samurai style culture may do rabbits some good.

      Edit: On second thoughts, there are probably some animal rights issued involved in training them for combat.

    • Sweetz says:

      @yourgrandma: “Why must this furry discussion always appear every time this game is featured”

      Because the characters in this share stylistic similarities to furry porn.

      To elaborate: in stuff like, say, Ratchet and Clank or Sly Cooper, the animal characters have cartoon proportions – big heads, disproportionate arms, etc. Neither the animal nor the human features look realistic. If you were to remove the animal characteristics the character shapes still wouldn’t compare to a real human. Cartoon anthropomorphs = not creepy (generally speaking). Also given that many of them go pantless yet don’t show signs of having any genitals helps.

      In Overgrowth you’ve got realistic looking animal characteristics applied to a realistic looking human frame with realistic proportions. I.e. the kind of thing you see in furry porn where at least some resemblance to a human is intrinsic to the sexualization of the art. Alternatively let me put it this way: the bunnie-men in this video are wearing pants…why would they need to wear pants…

    • MD says:

      I don’t know where you guys hang around on the internet, but in my experience I’ve seen about a million people pick on furries for no apparent reason (and no, finding their fetish off-putting is not a reason, and if you use it as one you’re simply a bigot), and pretty much no furries act like Alexander Norris’s caricature.

      I’m sure there are plenty of obnoxious furries with bad manners, but here’s a life tip: if a subset of a certain group upsets or offends you, that doesn’t make it okay to treat the rest of the group like shit.

      PS I’m probably using the word ‘furry’ too narrowly, sorry — I think I’ve been told in the past that it doesn’t always have sexual connotations.

    • Muzman says:

      Just think, if it wasn’t for the internet’s insatiable appetite for digging up the obscure and turning it into a punchline for years on end, most of us would probably never have even heard of furries.

    • MultiVaC says:

      @Muzman Seriously. Almost everything I ever hear about furries on the internet is jokes about them or endless discussion about how weird they are. I’ve probably only encountered one or two people who sincerely claim to be into that sort of thing.

      I don’t see why Overgrowth bothers people but the Elder Scrolls’ Khajiit and Argonians (scalies?) don’t seem to. Just think of it as Watership Down with kung-fu.

  5. Baboonanza says:

    They should use the engine to make a Watership Down game

  6. kyrieee says:

    Procedural bleeding, that’s what Soldier of Fortune was missing!

  7. AshEnke says:

    One of the most impressive alpha videos I’ve seen on Overgrowth is this one, when they introduced the block chaining which gave fights this choregraphied look.

    It really is impressive. The animations and ragdolls are top notch. I like to climb the highest mountain, activate ragdoll mode, and jump, watching how long it takes my rabbit to die (usually when his neck hits a rock, with a disgusting sound and a creepy slowmotion effect…)

  8. Alexander Norris says:

    I’m still waiting for the alpha to be properly playable, myself. The tech is looking bloody impressive though.

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    Okami says:

    Aaaaww… Poor wabbit!

  10. Prime says:

    OMG, I LOVE the blood! So well done it makes you appreciate just how sanitised and/or cartoonish 99.9% of released games are. Even supposedly realistic stuff like GTA IV.

  11. Ian says:

    “Honestly, this is the best video of anthropomorphic rabbits kicking the living shit out of each other that you are going to see today”

    Come on, Internet. Prove him wrong!

  12. JohnnyMaverik says:

    Edit: Actually in retrospect seeing as their still putting out “Alpha” builds suggesting there’s a possibility they could release any time soon seems a bit foolish, as well as any of the possible complaints that would come with that.

    • Calneon says:

      The game isn’t anywhere near completion. They are constantly adding technical improvements but have yet to start on an actual ‘game’. When they do get to that however, it will be fantastic. I wouldn’t expect to see it within the next year though.

    • Pathetic Phallacy says:

      I’m not sure it looks better than Mount and Blade’s combat. MB requires the player to block in the specific direction of the attack. Defense includes dodging, parrying, feinting and chamber blocking. This game’s combat seems a little simple in comparison. Nevertheless, I’m looking forward to seeing what this game becomes down the road. Also, it’s nice to see developers moving away from the simple God of War and various other third person action game’s button mashing brawls.

    • notjasonlee says:

      as a fan of mount&blade i will have to wholeheartedly disagree with you there. this has maybe 10 times the combat animations of mount and blade, a very smooth and realistic blocking system, PHYSICS (not just on death), and a far more detailed blood system.

    • sidhellfire says:

      So it does look better, but is less detailed/challenging gameplay-wise.

  13. Stevostin says:

    Why Furries ? It would have been better with kids !

    Jokes aside, hands on best melee combat I’ve seen so far. Seems even better than M&B, although not 1p. But I admit the view angle works very well here. Let’s have this inside of Skyrim, please.

    • Eclipse says:

      no thanks, I wans my skyrim in first person and I want it to have Dark Messiah combat. (And it will because Arkane studios worked on that part)

  14. Teddy Leach says:

    I pre-ordered aaaaaages ago, and it’s always lovely to get a new video every week to see how things are progressing.

  15. wodin says:

    Wing Tsun….thats what I want to see…

    • Axess Denyd says:

      I don’t think I can mouseclick fast enough to simulate proper chain punching.

    • wodin says:

      very ture….muchine giun style clicking required for the old Wind Tsun punch action…

  16. Unaco says:

    If this was using mens and womens, instead of anthropomorphic animals, I’d be hella-excited about it. As it is, unfortunately, I just can’t get behind it.

    • mejoff says:

      That’s why they have those slightly bulgy eyes on the sides of their heads, so you can’t.

    • Ravenholme says:

      I actually rather like it as a design choice, precisely because it makes it more unique. I also remember the good old days when you could have anthromorphic animals (And these aren’t nearly antrho enough to belong to the furry clade) without it being Furry – back in the days when Redwall was a decent kids series of books.

      Maybe I’m just less “internet angry men” having a reaction because of something’s art style, for very petty reasons.

      This kinda reminds me of the reaction to gems like Recettear, actually.

    • LionsPhil says:

      I assume those are the good old days before people agonised on the Internet over just how much of a human/rabbit ratio something can have before you’re obliged to call in the SPESS MUHREENS to exterminatus it.

  17. Vexing Vision says:

    I feel the same. I really wanted to like Lugaru, but the setting helped much more than the… tricky… movement to put the game aside within the first 15 minutes, never to touch it again.

    I really really like what I’m seeing in Overgrowth, but I am not sure I can get into the setting. Now, a rat or a mouse would have been cool!

  18. Covmeister says:

    Bright eyes… Burning like fire…

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    The Sombrero Kid says:

    progressing nicely i’m not going to commit till there’s a basic gameplay stucture in place though.

  20. digitalsoap says:

    Those are some creepy rabbits.
    Though not as creepy as these rabbits:

  21. pipman3000 says:

    Internet politics aside this looks like it could be really fun and I’ll definitely be buying it release day.

  22. Berzee says:

    BRUTAL PAWS OF FURY

  23. Valvarexart says:

    Pre-ordered it a long time ago. It is really awesome, but one thing that there is too much silence about is multiplayer! Imagine the possibilities! This is possibly more fun than many of the arcade fighters out there, and it could become a big e-sport phenomena.

    • Matzerath says:

      I’ll take a shot in the dark and say that latency issues will prevent this from becoming multiplayer. This game is so detailed, and they’re trying hard for fast, fluid, SOLID fighting — the technology just isn’t there to make this work. Also why your favorite bullet-hell game doesn’t have online multiplayer.

      In short: Everything can’t be multiplayer.

    • eph3meral says:

      Well actually it most definitely is going to be having multiplayer. And part of the whole point of Overgrowth was a (better) multiplayer Lugaru.

    • Matzerath says:

      I stand corrected!

  24. Wulf says:

    Sigh. The misanthropy aimed at furries rather reminds me of the misanthropy that was aimed at me as a severely disabled kid in the ’80s. I was also ‘creepy.’ And really, are we going to pick on furries from the position of us gamers being a group of people who tend to get off to guns (and other assorted weaponry), gore, and the glorification of violence in general (including versus civilians and defenceless animals)? That just strikes me as a double standard.

    Disclaimer: You can see that the latter part is a stereotype that’s meant to provoke a response, and that was entirely intentional, it was written to be so. It’s just as easy to say that gamers are all conservative gun nuts who get off to the aforementioned but that’s not true. It can be said but saying it doesn’t make it true. Due to certain RPS writers and posters I still have a lot of faith that it isn’t true, but some posters just make it hard to think/believe that it isn’t true. And it’s the same with furries. Not everything is so black and white. Considering that both gamers and furries are a group of people which have a dark underbelly it does seem to be a double standard to be picking on them just for being different.

    And finally… misanthropy is something I’ve been on the receiving end of far too much to have a sense of humour about it. Sorry.

    • Berzee says:

      Wulf Mired in “Being A Furry Is A Severe Disability” Shocker.

    • TariqOne says:

      Guild Wars 2 will end misanthropy. And cure baldness.

      It is the greatest game we’ve never played.

    • Antsy says:

      Guild Wars 2 will end zealotry. And cure procrastination.

      It is the greatest game we’ve never played.

  25. Davie says:

    Ah, I see the obligatory frothing furry ragesplosion has already occurred. Read some Mouse Guard, people. You’ll be significantly less averse to the idea of humanized animals.

    But yes, Overgrowth basically looks awesome, and more so with every new video that appears. Wolfire have had time to think of dozens of little details that would be considered a waste of time by bigger developers with a deadline to meet, and the editing tools are really impressive. Hell, if the animals are really a problem for people, it would probably take half an hour in the editor to mod humans in.

  26. Lazaruso says:

    I think the problem most people have with sentient human-animal hybrid concepts is that if they really existed, they would have to give up eating meat.

    Personally, I love my steak and bacon and eggs, so the animals would probably declare war, and we are outnumbered…

  27. MultiVaC says:

    Edit: Reply Fail

  28. Antsy says:

    More reply fail.

  29. Big Daddy Dugger says:

    This game has nothing to do with furries whatsoever and here’s why: