FOX News Takes Stand On Green Gaming

By John Walker on September 7th, 2011 at 3:57 pm.

And thus an expert on all things to do with children.

The list of crimes committed by videogames is a long and dark one. Our hobby causes ordinary citizens to turn into crazed sociopaths, rapists, murders, environmentalists and thugs. Wait, hang on a second, go back one? It appears that the latest charge levelled at gaming by those arbiters of decency at FOX News is one of spreading leftie-pinko liberal thinking, and by golly it’s got to stop.

This is being perpetrated by “the green police”, who apparently are breaking into people’s homes and installing Sim City Societies on children’s PCs. We’re alerted to this horror by legendary videogaming and environmental science expect, radio presenter T.J. McCormack, who observes that people are “profiting of an environmental cause.” Because that’s now his argument?


(Apologies if it forces you to watch an advert)

It’s a terrifying piece of madness, as noticed by Gamertag Radio and the Escapist, which seems to have sprung out of nowhere. The awful Sim City Societies came out in 2007, so why it’s suddenly offending Murdoch’s brood is a little mystifying. Frankly I think they should be more offended that you could environmentally improve your city by building landmarks in a mad pile in the rop right corner of the map, miles and miles from your people. What’s that going to teach the next generation of town planners?

Next to be attacked is Fate Of The World, which brainwashed Quintin earlier this year. In this game about the effects of ignoring climate change, astonishingly it tries to smuggle in some liberal agenda that insinuates the notion that ignoring climate change might be dangerous!

Obviously there’s no real point in getting too worked up about FOX News for every specific story relating to a subject you care about. Instead it’s better to simply maintain a permanent worked up state about the network at all times. Because it’s genuinely frightening to watch the host’s slimy pretence to offer the alternative arguments, before explaining why they’re wrong and dangerous. But really we bring this clip to your attention for the sheer mad joy of seeing the same vocabulary and rhetoric employed when condemning violence and sex in gaming, applied to games about helping save the world and making nice parks.

Thanks to Gnoupi for the tip.

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208 Comments »

  1. Bilbo says:

    By the exact same logic Call of Duty is a terrifying conspiracy by the Right.

    Except people actually play call of duty… and it totally is right-wing propaganda.

    Glass houses, rocks.

    • Bantu says:

      Personally i thought the quality of Glass Houses really declined from their second album onwards.

    • rolerton says:

      Three Kings had war in it, I suppose that’s also right wing propaganda?

    • djbriandamage says:

      The Longest Journey shows the earth split into two – a world of science and a world of magic.

      Moderate extremist dogma!! Beware lest they pour tepid oil on you or place you in the nerf maiden!!!

    • Captchist says:

      Couple of lines I loved:

      “Some people on the right…” – Um, Fox… that’s you.

      War games (you know, that genre) are bad, but at least blowing people up is a nice right wing agenda. It’s those peaceful games about careful planning and harmless fun you have to watch out for. If only we could go back to the nice right wing days of Sesame Street…

      And that whilst these games are not War Games, (bad) they are, as a result, boring (bad).
      There appears to be no middle ground. Evil or Boring. And the trouble is that Sim City is both.

      Damn those dull dull Pipelines… *goes to find a copy of Pipe Dream*

    • Reefpirate says:

      And you’re right, powerful people of the ‘left’ in the US and the UK are totally anti-war… What with the Afghanistan and the Yugoslavia and the Libya and the Vietnam.

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      Joshua says:

      Call of Duty Modern Warfare actually had a stance against the Iraq invasion (In both the In game and the real invasion, a lot of people died without actually having achieved anything), and Modern Warfare 2 against blindly following orders (which causes world war three).

    • kickme22 says:

      Umm how is cod a right wing conspiracy by definition right and left wing refer the layout of the british parliament. Those who are proponents of communism socialism etc sit on the left, while proponents of fascism, and dictatorship sit on the right. The American “right-wing” are people who prefer less government and thus would sit in the middle of the british parliament. (btw hitler wasn’t rightwing the only difference between nazism and communism was that communism was created by Karl Marx who was born a Jew, Hitler despising Jews beleived that this corrupted communism and as a result he created Nazism. (paraphrased from Mein Kampf)

    • Stromko says:

      Reefpirate: Those wars do really illustrate the difference between the modern concept of right-wing and left-wing warfare, but not in the way you’re suggesting (actually you’re suggesting they’re all liberal wars, which is confusing?). Libya, and that last war in the Balkans, are examples of conflicts with a set objective (removal of Milosevich, or Gadhaffi), and minimal U.S. involvement (bombing), and the full backing of the U.N. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t (Somalia). Wars like Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam ultimately involve full-scale invasions. Of those, Vietnam was actually the most blameless, since we started small and never set out to utterly dismantle local government and services before rebuilding it via no-bid contractors and/or self-serving local puppets, not to mention our genuine naivety toward warfare and nation building in that first quagmire. Those three wars have all gone on long enough to be inherited by Democratic presidents, but would not have reached their zenith without Nixon, or been started at all without Bush Jr.

    • Zogtee says:

      I’m sorry, but I had to do it.

      http://www.blodkult.com/images/slaughter.jpg

      I’m a bad person, I know. I blame vidyagames and rock ‘n’ roll for it.

    • pilot13 says:

      @kickme I’m not sure about your assertion that the root of the phrasing of ‘left and right wing’ belongs to the British parliament. It is actually the incumbent party(ies) sitting on the left and the opposition sits on the right irrespective of ideology.

      Also, why on earth are they showing footage of Flower? Because of rendered wind turbines? It’s a game devoid of political statement and played almost exclusively by stoners.

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      Rikard Peterson says:

      From history lessons, I recall that the lest/right thing comes from France, and I see that Wikipedia agrees with me. (I’ll leave the rest of the discussion alone – it doesn’t seem worth responding to.)

    • Consumatopia says:

      People can work out their own definitions of Left vs Right, but “less government” doesn’t work, at least not in America. Note that the Republicans generally support an expanded military, an aggressive foreign policy, and curtailed civil liberties. And don’t forget the “Don’t let the government touch my Medicare” portion of FOX News viewership.

      From my limited experience, I would guess that “I’ve got mine, screw everyone else” is a pretty good heuristic to determine which political faction is called “right” in most countries.

    • SLeigher says:

      That scene at the end of Black Ops where you swim up to the surface and suddenly you’re surrounded by ships and american flags and jets fly overhead for no obvious reason is basically cut straight from every right wing, join the marines style propaganda video ever.

    • Rii says:

      “Umm how is cod a right wing conspiracy by definition right and left wing refer the layout of the british parliament.”

      I think you mean the French parliament.

  2. Cunzy1 1 says:

    Crazed sociopaths, rapists, murders, thugs. All allegedly playable characters in the latest alleged FIFA game according to unnamed sources.

    EDIT: Thanks jon_hill987

  3. Ginger Yellow says:

    Funny how they pick on the “profiting off an environmental cause” angle rather than, say, the police state angle.

    Also, you’d think Fox would like Fate of the World, in that the game’s central message seems to be that it’s nigh on impossible to take effective measures against climate change without prompting mass starvation, economic depression or civil war.

    • Timberfox says:

      I’m surprised Fox News didn’t link fate of the world with increased chance of depression and suicide. No matter what i did in that game, the future always held the deaths of billions of people and cuddly animals.

    • sauyadav says:

      RIP. You will be missed, Virtual Polar Bear.

    • Ergates_Antius says:

      To be honest, I’m quite surprised that FOX didn’t claim that Fate of the World was a murder simulator that contained the most realistic sex scenes ever seen.

      What FOX news say and reality don’t often overlap.

    • Groove says:

      Hug a virtual polar bear today.

  4. Heliocentric says:

    Wont somebody th-

    Sorry, cant be bothered.

  5. jon_hill987 says:

    “Obviously there’s no real point in getting too worked up about FOX News for every specific story relating to a subject you care about. Instead it’s better to simply maintain a permanent worked up state about the network at all times.”

    Best point of view on Fox ever.

    • Headache says:

      I always try to keep a pitchfork close to hand, you know, just in case.

    • Shuck says:

      I, for one, am terrified, terrified when I think of the effect Fox News is having on our children!

    • Bart Stewart says:

      RPS is great when describing what makes games fun. But this permarage against all things Murdochian is unhelpful.

      The fact is that computer gaming remains poorly understood throughout much of the old-media establishment, regardless of political orientation. This includes outlets like Fox News and the Telegraph, but also includes the dominant left-leaning media organizations like ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/BBC, AP/Reuters and NYT/WaPo/Guardian/Independent.

      Even the most cursory Google search turns up examples that are obvious to anyone who is willing to suspend sucker-punching anything perceived as politically conservative in favor of reporting reality. Katie Couric is not going to be joining the Republican Party any time soon, but there she is, doing a perfectly good Jack Thompson impression in asserting that “too much time playing video games is hazardous to their health [The Children], and with this latest entry [Manhunt 2], may be hazardous to the health of others, too.” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDi5X6sN_JA) There’s the “Other View” on MSNBC (again, not exactly Conservative Central) that it’s “weird” for men in their 30s and 40s to play video games. (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/29054368/vp/43674965/#43674965)

      At the same time, Fox News is not universally condemning video games — not even violent video games. The very first two results of a Google search for “Fox News” and “violent video games” (excluding stories on the recent U.S. Supreme Court decision) are stories from the Fox Health section: “Violent Video Games Make You Smarter, Study Says” and “Violent Video Games Touted As Learning Tool”.

      If someone doesn’t like conservative politics or non-leftist news organizations, fine. They can always play the browser-based “Tea Party Zombies Must Die” — we all know that chainsawing a zombie with the head of Sarah Palin or Brit Hume attached isn’t a real threat of violence, right?

      But pretending that Fox News is the only news outlet that doesn’t “get” games is simply wrong. Choosing not to tell the whole story in order to score political points may be fun, but it’s poor games journalism. RPS can and should do better in this area.

    • KillahMate says:

      @Bart Stewart: You may not want to mention those ‘positive’ articles about games that Fox News posted; they reference reporting by The Sun, and therefore make the whole thing even worse :-)

    • Torgen says:

      Bart, the fact that you label every news outlet that isn’t Murdoch controlled as “left-leaning” screams your own bias, and damages any point you make.

  6. cliffski says:

    I used the profits from my evil video games to buy solar panels and a hybrid car. I am Fox News’s worst nightmare.
    BWAHAHAHAHA!

    • Berzee says:

      You’re also boring.

      mmblemmblepipelines

    • Unaco says:

      Not really. You made profits, and you bought stuff. If, instead, you’d lumped the money you made or got given by the Federal Govt/State, together with that from other members of your commune and had collectively purchased the Solar panels/Hybrid for community use… then, maybe, you’d be their ‘nightmare’.

    • diamondmx says:

      I think you’ll find that was:
      “mumblemumble- Pipelines!”
      *fake laughter*
      “Thanks so much…”

  7. Berzee says:

    After watching 25 seconds of a random middle part of this video, I see the question is simply,

    press Q,
    or hold Q?

    • Nallen says:

      I’d say hold Q, but then I’d appear on Faux News as a danger to society.

      By the way where is the wave of murders committed by cloaked bionically enhanced gardening super soldiers that must surely be on the way?

    • Jam says:

      Everywhere…and nowhere.

  8. Valvarexart says:

    I have a feeling that Fox News just might be some of the best trolls in history; “nuclear energy makes us glow in the night”. I remember hearing things like “how horrifying! the games teach kids to shoot people!”, now it’s “they don’t get to kill people! That’s BORING!”

  9. Sicram says:

    More like Fox “news”. It feels like they are just making shit up.

    • ResonanceCascade says:

      Fox News is the most brilliantly run “news” organization in the world, from a business perspective. They know exactly how to bullshit their knuckle-dragging audience.

      Also, yeah, video games are definitely just for kids, Fox. Fuck right off.

  10. Novack says:

    This guy AGAIN! He really needs to get laid with anyone in the world!

  11. Timthos says:

    I watched the video, and all I got was that all video games are meant for children, especially complex turn-based strategy games.

    • Berzee says:

      And that said complex games give the children sweaty palms!

      What he does not realize is that 1 out of 2 children will make it their personal crusade to kill every polar bear in the world. That ratio may be a little low.

      I speak from the experience of watching my big brother play “Little Computer People” as a child and forcing the little computer person to eat dog food in order to survive (which meant the dog was half-starved too). I cried, but he persisted in his evil scheme. (We each represent half of the aforementioned ratio).

    • Rush Ton says:

      Yeah I dont see many 5 year olds playing fate of the world. also “parents dont know what in these games.” Well then find out, it should only take 5 minutes on google. Ignorance is not an excuse these days.

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      dirtyword says:

      Also, virtual polar bears. VIRTUAL POLAR BEARS.

      *Punch*

    • Astroman says:

      Don’t forget that said complex games that give children sweaty palms are also booooring.

    • apa says:

      I liked the part where he said something like: “Kids play sim city and learn things parents may not want them to learn”.

      You can’t make up this kind of comedy :D

    • boldoran says:

      @Astroman

      Yeah I liked that bit best too.

    • Thants says:

      Some of us were raised to believe that a parent has the right to introduce their children to proper district zoning in their own time!

  12. GenBanks says:

    I love how they interview a radio host as though he is a credible source on either gaming or environmentalism.

    • cliffski says:

      you missed that he was also a ‘parent’

    • ribidons says:

      A mainstay of extremist perspectives is the demonization of conventional information sources and the glorification of independent investigation as the only potentially uncorrupted avenue of insight. Thus, for the extremist, a security guard-cum-radio personality with a GED who broadcasts from a rusty antenna van parked down by the river would be more trustworthy than an accredited panel of Ph.Ds who specialize on the subject but happen not to share the extremist’s views. Nobody can buy out the free operator, dude.

    • TillEulenspiegel says:

      I prefer to listen to convicted felons like Oliver North.

    • Starky says:

      Cliffski is correct, being a “parent” in America is more qualification than a doctorate in any subject that even tangentially involves children – and can automatically be used in any argument, to trump any point, fact or opinion.

      Seriously there needs to be a Godwin like law for use of phrases like “as a parent…”

  13. Drheadcrab says:

    Societies instead of 4? I would go the other direction and say they hate children and the environment.

  14. JFS says:

    Oh please, the stupidity, make it stop! It hurts!

  15. BatmanBaggins says:

    The correct response to most of the things you see on Fox News is to roll your eyes and move on. They’re in the business of pandering to their crackpot audience and nothing more. Rationality and objective journalism, sincerely attempted or feigned, has nothing to do with it.

    • Stromko says:

      Unfortunately the crackpots hold a lot of sway in the U.S. nowadays, just look at the recent debt limit debacle. That was all ‘Tea Party’, and even after they got everything they wanted they still complained and tried to drag it out further. My president seriously needs to find his balls.

    • Shelley says:

      I’d rather have Obama find 13 000 000 000 000 000 dollars. That’d do.

      Also, is that about 10 euro nowadays?

    • Matt says:

      13 quadrillion dollars? That’s a tad much, I think….

  16. westyfield says:

    Gamertag Radio? The Escapist? Pah, we’ve been laughing about this on the forums for days!

  17. Muzman says:

    Any time he sees a social program turning a profit he gets suspicious?
    COMMUNIST!

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    Durkonkell says:

    It’s just like Picus News from DX:HR!

    Wait a moment… Do you… Do you think that the game might be parodying something from reality here? Do you think we should ignore climate change completely because in 2029 someone will build a massive structure in the sea to correct it? Do you think I’ve played too much of this game and can’t think of anything else?

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      Anthile says:

      Even though DX3 plays in the future, it was an alternative timeline even before so Picus might have been just a normal news channel in their 2011.

    • michal.lewtak says:

      I like how DX:HR shows us a very possible turn of events.

    • ArcaneSaint says:

      Heh, Picus News was my first thought as well. Oh man, what I wouldn’t give to take a look around FOX news’ main server rooms… (I’d look around in a non-lethal fashion of course, more XP)

      DX:HR wasn’t a work of fiction, it was one of the Illuminati members leaking the truth. Which was then quickly covered up by the Illuminati-owned games industry (how else would you explain something like Ubisoft still existing) so they can continue their plans undisturbed while their Chinese mega-corporations are slowly taking over all our economies!

    • Azhrarn says:

      Well, Picus is the genus name for the woodpecker family. So much like the fox it’s a forest animal. Both species tend to be quite curious too. :)

  19. JohnnyMaverik says:

    I look forward to greeting legions of fellow radical, socio-anarchical leftists in a dozen or so years, which thanks to these games is what the next generation of america’s youth are going to become.

    Lol, yeaiwishfoxnews -_-

  20. Sweedums says:

    I kinda wish we had Fox News in the UK, it makes for fantastic entertainment.

    EDIT: Also, everybody be quiet there is a PARENT talking. This wise man obviously knows more about games than the people who have actually played games before in their lives.

    • JohnnyMaverik says:

      Just no =/

      Edit: To the wishing FOX news were in the UK as well that is.

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      Richard Beer says:

      We don’t have Fox news, but we do have The Daily Mail. They are cut from the same cloth, even if the UK cloth is a thinner weave of right wing lunacy.

  21. Fiwer says:

    Parent

    • StuffedCabbage says:

      Yes. I feel sorry for his children.

    • Juan Carlo says:

      Don’t laugh.

      Everyone knows that the rare ability of ejaculating inside someone and then waiting 9 months instantly makes you an expert on the effects of media on childhood development.

      I’m just surprised that Fox found a bona fide “parent” to offer us his expertise–parents are so rare, you know.

    • Ian says:

      We all know that the act of having a child gives you the Instant Win Button of “Do you *have* kids?” for any debate there is.

  22. Danny says:

    For Fox sake.

    Also, it’s amazing how liberal is a dirty word over there.

    LOOK AT THEM, THOSE DIRTY TOLERANT LIBERAL TYPES WITH THEIR SOCIAL VALUES!

    • Berzee says:

      To be fair, they almost certainly are just loosely using the word Liberal to refer to a smaller and often unrelated set of annoying people who might tend to class themselves as part of the wider and more technically correct definition of Liberal.

      Like most categorizations, it has developed multiple meanings both complimentary and derogatory, depending on the speaker and the listener. =)

    • Subatomic says:

      Still, it’s funny how in the US ‘liberal’ seems to be just one step away from socialism or even *gasp* communism (though to the average FOX News viewer, the both are probably the same). In the rest of the world, ‘liberal’ is a political ideology firmly located at the center of the political spectrum and liberal parties are mostly aligned with conservative parties (see the UK or Germany) against more leftist parties like social democrats or green parties.

  23. StuffedCabbage says:

    Oh my god! I can’t think of the words to explain how stupid these people are.

  24. AsuraGargoyle says:

    It’s really stunning how awful american journalism can look from the eyes of a non-american.

    How do they have the right to judge what’s boring and what isn’t? When I was a kid, I played Sim City 2000 and I didn’t find it boring at all, if other kids did, then fine, sure, I can see why, but I can also see why people like the damn games.

    Also, wasn’t it possible to build nuclear plants in Sim City Societies?

    • Snuffy the Evil says:

      I’m not sure about Societies, but it was definitely possible in Sim City 4, and maybe the earlier games.

      Not that I really paid attention to the benefits, mind; I just used the money cheat to build about fifty of them to practice my meteorite aim.

      So. Obama 2012?

    • FataMorganaPseudonym says:

      “It’s really stunning how awful american journalism can look from the eyes of a non-american.”

      On behalf of Americans, I’d like to point out that it is awful to a good number of us as well. Despite what they claim, FOX “News” isn’t actually journalism. It’s little more than bread and circuses for the lowest common denominator. There are lots of people out there that eat this kind of thing right up and ask for seconds, believing every word of it as though it were gospel truth. The fact that these people exist at all fill me with dread and pessimism.

    • LostViking says:

      Fortunately, as an european living in the US I can attest that they have many good shows too.

      I watch every episode of The Daily Show and The Colbert Report, and some of the funniest bits of the shows are about the crazy stuff ‘Fox and friends’ cook up :D

      According to one of my Fox viewing friends they are making all that up though as a part of their liberal agenda, while Fox provides a unbiased and balanced perspective (and he was serious!).

  25. spcd says:

    Please, RPS, do not give attention to Fox. They are not relevant. Do not give them more pageviews, they do not deserve it.

    • theleif says:

      Not relevant? They are the biggest news channel (if you could call fox news for news, i don’t know) in the USA. I think they are unfortunately very relevant.

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    mR.Waffles says:

    Is Fox News going the way of Gawker and deliberately nerd baiting to generate ad revenue?

    • Optimaximal says:

      How can you “go the way” of something when you’re already there?

  27. MiniMatt says:

    A wide tangent I know, but if you’ll forgive me it does have a green gaming angle….

    EVE, as we know, recently upgraded to it’s Carbon IO / graphics engine. Being called “Carbon” you might think there’d be at least a nod to carbon efficiency.

    There was, in the wrong direction. Sitting docked in a station with the (default but thank god turn-offable) new virtual living room simulator my modest ‘puter was pulling an extra 40 watts at the wall over the previous “sit in a station and play with market spreadsheets” nerdery.

    Fag-packet maths, 40,000 pilots online, say 10% of them are docked at any given time, that’s an extra 160KW of energy being burnt thanks to the new “Carbon” IO.

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    shoptroll says:

    Stay classy Mr. Murdoch

  29. Drinking with Skeletons says:

    To play devil’s advocate, most games do have a basically liberal sensibility to them. For example, I was genuinely shocked that Human Revolution didn’t have a big reveal that David Sarif was actually an evil schemer. As some recent comments by RPS writers have pointed out, its a commonly held belief (by liberal-leaning people) that rich people are generally the worst human beings alive. Really, how many games feature evil businesses? How many games are all about saving the environment, despite the fact that we are playing them on a piece of thoroughly unnatural technology? There are tons of examples here!

    But, as usual, FOX News takes an interesting question with a lot of potential avenues of inquiry, and one which would be ignored by just about every other media outlet and/or academic body (which are, let’s be honest, mostly liberal and therefore not likely to see a question worth answering here), and twists it into a pile of stupidity. They’re like a brain-dead Rumpelstiltskin.

    • Dawngreeter says:

      I don’t think you’re thinking this through. Rich people aren’t the worst human beings alive. They are, of all the human beings alive, the ones with the most power to make others miserable.

    • Jahandar says:

      @Drinking: Very well said.

    • Berzee says:

      I do get tired of just how frequently you find the “Duh! Just combine all religions and then make it about trees, and that’s how you make good guys” but that is more of a general fantasy-genre trope than anything particular about games. The evil corporation thing, though, yeah…I have appreciated so far (I’m only in Hengsha) how DXHR has not gone the predictable and unconvincing route of moral fiber being *necessarily* the inverse of financial well-being.

    • Xocrates says:

      This is generally true of all forms of media, mostly because, fairly unsurprisingly, people in creative fields (like art and writing) tend to be liberals. When was the last time you watched a movie or read a book that said the environment sucked?

      Actually, looking into it, games may be one of the least liberal media forms: You have plenty of “The military is awesome” games, and you’ve been murdering endangered species since before Tomb Raider. Not to mention that in plenty of city building games being an environmentalist is usually less efficient.

    • Berzee says:

      “They are, of all the human beings alive, the ones with the most power to make others miserable.”

      *nods agreeably* True enough. =)

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      AndrewC says:

      How many gams feature militarism, american triumphalism, violence-as-solution, guns-as-trophies, power-as-right, hegemonic international politics, laissez-faire capitalist values, Randian interpersonal ethics, Victorian racial and sexual attitudes and the dehumanisation of aliens as ‘the enemy’?

    • MiniMatt says:

      That’s a pretty good point. Purely conjecture but I’d guess *most* creative types have a liberal bias. Creativity implies “change” and “new”, words which tend to be an anathema to the (small “c”) conservative.

    • LennyLeonardo says:

      Wait, what’s Rumplestilskin got to do with it?

      (Hmm… is that a Tina Turner lyric?)

    • Berzee says:

      @MiniMatt: I think the best kind of small-c conservative, though, is much more concerned with holding on to good things than with policing new things for badness. =) He may be concerned with both, but if it’s mostly the latter, he should rather be called a preventative than a conservative.

      (Totally unrelated to anything but the semantics, but what I enjoy is the fact that a conservationist is a very liberal thing to be ^_^)

    • Post-Internet Syndrome says:

      It’s funny how in the US, “liberal” means “leftist that want to turn our land of the free into a commie dictatorship”, while over here it means “evil capitalists that take from the poor and give to the rich”.

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      Richard Beer says:

      Just FYI, it is a scientifically peer-reviewed fact that rich people (especially those born rich) are statistically less empathetic, less sympathetic and just generally meaner than most other people.

      Not that that has much to do with Fox News, which is all about maintaining the American status quo of corporations running the country for their own ends, and helping to transfer increasingly more money from the bottom of society to the top by exploiting the ignorance and fear of the middle and lower classes. (and amplifying their ignorance and fear while they’re at it).

    • Drinking with Skeletons says:

      @Xocrates:

      “When was the last time you watched a movie or read a book that said the environment sucked?”

      But there are very different ways to appreciate the environment. The Monster Hunter franchise, for example, is very pro-environment in the sense that it’s all about appropriately managing natural resources as they are as opposed to strip-mining, manufacturing, or something similar. That said, it’s also about hunting and butchering animals, which is a decidedly (by liberal environmental standards) anti-environmental activity. If you’ve ever spent time around avid hunters–who, as a rule, tend to be a very big-C Conservative bunch–you’ll know how the term “environmentalism” is more a liberal philosophy than a short-hand for “nature-loving.”

    • Drinking with Skeletons says:

      @Richard Beer:

      That may be true, but empathy and sympathy are, by definition, fairly subjective. I taught for two years in a very low income, rural school in North Carolina. The population was about 50/50 white and black. I had some black male students who refused to do any work, complained that it was irrelevant, were several years older than their classmates, and had GPAs at or below 1.0 out of 4.0.

      One way to look at them was with sympathy: they’d been raised in environments with high rates of drug abuse, poverty, and criminal behavior (although not a huge amount of violence, largely due to the small, everyone-knows-everyone nature of the county). Then there are also the looming specters of historical U.S. racial discrimination. The county also had some local peculiarities that had fostered a culture in which people, regardless of race, were very rarely listened to (honest to God, everyone who wasn’t born and raised there would comment about how the locals would never stop talking to each other regardless of who was speaking) and in which an exciting achievement was leaving the county and never returning.

      Another way to look at them was without sympathy: they had the same opportunities in the classroom as every other student, and there were plenty of students of all races, genders, and backgrounds who did succeed, and for all of their problems their biggest was that they were shiftless, lazy little shits who were a disgrace to their family, community, and nation.

      And for the record, I’m not wealthy by any stretch. I simply find that my knee-jerk sympathy for the “less-privileged” has diminished as I’ve gotten older and interacted with a wider sampling of humanity.

    • Abundant_Suede says:

      @Richard

      And for the record, I’m not wealthy by any stretch. I simply find that my knee-jerk sympathy for the “less-privileged” has diminished as I’ve gotten older and interacted with a wider sampling of humanity.

      It’s not necessary.to be a “bleeding heart”, to have a clinical appreciation that it is desirable to eliminate poverty and class disparity in society, because of the associated issues, and what it does to people of any race raised in that environment, any more than it is to be a “tree hugger” to recognize the importance of environmental issues. You can do so purely out of dispassionate, rational self-interest.

    • Drinking with Skeletons says:

      @Abundant Suede:

      But being clinical about it leads to direct conflict with those who are more emotional, and rationality can never defeat emotion. I was a teacher (emphasis on was) who worked very long and irregular hours desperately trying to get students to pass. Too many failures and I would run the risk of getting fired. If no one failed I would not be criticized in any way but would have never challenged my students or expected them to learn anything. However, the administration would just fudge things a little bit to ensure that most students would progress regardless of their actual performance, with only the most uncooperative and willfully ignorant students actually failing to get a diploma. In short, my efforts made zero difference.

      In the U.S., at least, we live in a society in which everyone can succeed. It’s so easy to get at least a high school diploma, and not that much harder to get a college degree. If you ever get a glimpse behind the curtain, you’ll see nothing but compromise and endlessly lowered standards. Yet still the fact that some people fail is bandied about as evidence that we have a bad educational system. Teachers want to challenge their students and actually instill in them knowledge that they can use, but many students don’t want to cooperate and they have little recourse. Educational iniquity exists and will continue to exist not because the educational system is lacking–which it most certainly is, if you actually care about standards–but because the students who are sympathized with and fretted over the most have chosen and will continue to choose to reject the opportunities presented to them.

      You can say whatever you want about their upbringing, background, or personality, but to continue to choose to fail does not make you a victim, but a perpetrator.

    • ix says:

      What AndrewC said.

      Also, loads of games are about dystopian futures. Evil corporations work very well in dystopian futures. Evil governments are a bit old hat but I hear MW2 has terrorists or something.

      But really, people with right-wing politics are more likely to notice left-wing tropes and vice versa. If one such person has never heard about observation bias, they might make a stupid strawman out of it.

    • Dawngreeter says:

      Here’s what bugs me here. Are we really having a conversation about whether large corporations are evil? Really? Is that a thing now, corporate overlords are benevolent?

      I mean, sure, consider them necessary for the industry. Consider them okay if you like what they’re producing. Consider them convenient. I’m fine with all of that, really. But they’re good? Come on people. We have here a structure whose only purpose is to:

      1) Make money
      2) There is no 2

      You can’t honestly tell me an entity acting according to those priorities is a good thing, can you? Or maybe you can? Pray, what’s the thought process there? It’s been repeated enough on TV therefore criticism does not apply? Or maybe it’s too obvious so you feel you need to say the contrary in order to stand out in the crowd, like the people who insist Angelina Jolie / Johnnie Depp / Whoever isn’t attractive?

      I’m genuinely interested.

    • theleif says:

      It’s funny (well tragic, really) how FOX news have managed to convince people that anything not in line with it’s party line is liberal (i.e evil and immoral). This us vs them they’ve hammered in for so long really paid of.

  30. AbsoluteDestiny says:

    Those curious as to what context Fox News gave when contacting us about Fate of the World, this was their email:

    Hello,
    I work for the Fox News Channel and we are doing a story tomorrow about green
    video games. I would like a comment.

    My original comment was

    Video games about real world issues are important much like films such as “Schindler’s List” or “March of the Penguins” are important – they let us experience things we never could and help us understand ourselves, each other and the world around us.

    The movies were omitted. I was trying to think of something the FOX News viewer might have vaguely heard about. Wasn’t really expecting them to bring out “little Timmy” though we’re now using that phrase in the office instead of Straw Man. Good times.

    (runs off to kill more virtual polar bears)

    • MiniMatt says:

      Thanks for this, always interesting how these things work. Interesting, but unfortunately increasingly predictable :o)

    • FataMorganaPseudonym says:

      If I were a video game developer and I got contacted by FOX News concerning my game, my response would probably be something along the lines of “Fuck off. You have long been shown to be anti-video game and, as such, I will not be providing you with any words that you can twist around in a furthering of your asinine agenda. Have a nice day. Oh, and did I mention to fuck off?” Of course, they’d most assuredly take that and twist it around to further their agenda as well, so what can you do? They’d even take a simple lack of any response whatsoever and twist that around to their own ends as well.

    • AbsoluteDestiny says:

      @FataMorganaPseudonym – we did consider that as an option. We figured they were going to represent us in whatever crazy ways they felt like so we might as well give a response that was vaguely sane and tricky to misconstrue, just for all the folks out there who aren’t drinking the proverbial Kool Aid.

    • TillEulenspiegel says:

      tricky to misconstrue

      Just make it impossible to quote on air. Where if they wanted to show the text of the email, they’d have to blur out every other word.

      Would be funny, anyway.

  31. Abundant_Suede says:

    Fox must love games like Terraria then. Using explosives to blow holes in the earth and suck it dry of precious minerals.

    Hard to get worked up about this though. This is filler indignation. I guarantee you it will be the least offensive/ misinformed/ misanthropic/ xenophobic/ transparently manipulative/ patently stupid segment all week from them.

  32. undead dolphin hacker says:

    Please stop posting this shit. Fox News was created for the express purpose of trolling, and advertising their idiocy only enables them to produce more.

    Dedicated Fox News viewers are already lost causes. People who listen to multiple media sources and make at very least a feeble attempt to think for themselves will realize this is bullshit, or at least unworthy of the news.

  33. torchedEARTH says:

    It’s not the first of the month, hell, it’s not even April. Is this some new joke day I don’t know about? Was there an email?

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    Okami says:

    (Apologies if it forces you to watch an advert)

    Never mind the advert, this video forces me to watch FOX!!!

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    bglamb says:

    I like the bit when the host tells him that surely this is a good thing, and all he can come back with is,

    “But it’s boring!”

  36. RagePoon says:

    Damnit. There goes any pride I had in my last name… Thanks “T.J. McCormack”

  37. brulleks says:

    Christ, now I understand why I suddenly felt the urge to get caught up in environmentalism a few years ago – it was because I’ve been a gamer since the age of eight.

    The fact that I’ve spent more time playing GTA or Saint’s Row than I have strategy games like Sim City also explains why I’m a violently misanthropic environmentalist rather than a peace-loving hippy.

    It all makes sense now. Thanks Fox.

  38. Joyo says:

    Okay, Ian’s already been and talked in an official HEY I MADE DAT GAME capacity, so all I will add is:

    1. THANK YOU for choosing my favorite moment from that video as a screen shot. I had previously only seen that kind of “title” swap used as a joke.

    2. I didn’t realize this at first, but the first game they show and refer to in a menacing way is actually Flower. FLOWER. Petals of liberal subversiveness, wafting peacefully into the pristine minds of youth, thrusting ROOTS OF FEAR to SHATTER THE CLEAN SOILS OF INNOCENCE.

    • Fiatil says:

      Pretty much this. I like how they just scroll footage of Flower menacingly throughout the entire interview: it’s basically the nicest happiest game ever. If any parent picks “shootey game to the left” over “flower to the right” they have some serious issues.

  39. magnus says:

    For the sake of my blood-pressure I will not watch anything from Fox News or anything accociated with Bill O’Reilly (oops I said a bad word ,no, two bad words there!).

  40. Ian says:

    You’re all mocking Fox now, but kids don’t know what they’re playing.

    They don’t know how to distinguish what’s on their screens from reality.

    What if these innocent pups grow up and then go about the business of caring about the environment?

    Yeah, pretty scary when you think about it.

    • Berzee says:

      Good heavens, keep them away from Alpha Centauri!!!

    • Berzee says:

      We’ll have armies of ideologically-opposed crazies running around.

      Actually you won’t notice a difference except the kids will be able to spout more wordy philosophy than previous generations, and will also be better at terraforming.

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    Lambchops says:

    Put more importantly, what does T.J stand for (I haven’t watched the video so I’m going to guess).

    It’s either Theodore James or Totally Jammin’ isn’t it?

  42. JYzer says:

    It’s fantastic that of all the games out there to accuse of going all fringe environmentalist, they chose SimCity Societies. Those dreadful environmentally friendly windmills and solar power plants? They come equipped with a great big stonking BP logo. BP wanted to greenwash their image, and EA wanted… Well EA wanted lots and lots of money. It’s unlike their usual selfless ways, I know, I was as shocked as anyone when I heard, honest.

    So yeah, make sure your kids don’t get lured to the dark side by that most dangerous of forces in the environmental movement: the oil industry.

  43. SuPerNoVi says:

    Typo “environmental science expect” should be “environmental science expert”?

  44. Jason Moyer says:

    As someone who identifies themselves as conservative politically (not Republican, just conservative), I find Fox News to be about the most highly offensive thing ever. It frightens me that there are people who watch them religiously and take them completely seriously – especially when I deal with these people constantly now that I’m living in suburbia again.

    • Thants says:

      If anything, they’re slandering conservatives by suggesting that not wanting to destroy the environment is a liberal agenda.

  45. lijenstina says:

    Fox News.
    Goebbels weeps scared in the corner.

  46. Berzee says:

    Good thing they never heard of http://www.greenmangaming.com/

  47. Drake Sigar says:

    Is the Onion parodying FOX News, or is FOX News parodying the Onion?

    • Kaira- says:

      I believe the parody horizon has been breached, and The Onion is now obsolete.

    • Azhrarn says:

      @Kaira, that bloody pay-wall they’ve put up at the onion recently certainly took care of that. Can’t even read the bloody stuff anymore without paying first. :(

    • Thants says:

      What pay-wall? I can still read it.

  48. Dude (Darloc) says:

    Wow the best part was “They have the word slaughter in McDonald the game, do your realize, slaughter”.
    What a moron…
    And try to have a 5 year old play fate of the world, good luck to him.

    • Fiatil says:

      Wait, you mean they used a word with the literal definition of “to kill an animal for meat” in the context of describing what happens when you eat a hamburger? Shit be crazy.

  49. Curvespace says:

    I worked on a game last year that was specifically about global warming and carbon emissions (for a government department no less). Does that mean my phone has been hacked? I hope so, it would bore any infringing operatives into submission.

  50. frenz0rz says:

    I…. I just dont know what to say anymore.

    I feel sorry for all the genuinely reasonable and intelligent Americans out there, since Fox News makes half of your country seem utter fuckwits and I’m sure they’re really only in the minority. Right?…..yeah? ……please?

    I mean, I dont mind so much that Fox spread shit like this. Morons will be morons, corporations will be corporations, and they’re only targeting the lowest common denominator with this bollocks because they know it’ll sell. What gets me is that there is nothing I, an average British chap on the other side of the world, can do about it.

    What can we do, RPS? Because I’m bloody well fed up of ignoring this crap.

    • ucfalumknight says:

      As a yank, I wish I could disagree with you, but, it is scary the number of people who rely on Faux News for their “news”. Jon Stewart from the Daily Show makes a living of highlighting the false news provided by Faux News.

    • Snuffy the Evil says:

      I know a lot of conservatives who watch Fox News, but not very many that completely agree with its message. Fox News represents the extremely vocal minority; the Republicans I chat with are all level-headed and open to sensible political discussion. You get the all-American-God-Fearing-Hates-Pinkos-Queers-Socialists-And-Foreigners types, but they are definitely not the majority, or even a plurality.

      That’s how it is with ordinary people, anyway. Unfortunately, people who are actually elected to office tend to be much more extreme in their (stated) beliefs, whether they’re Democrats, Republicans, or some other third party. The reasoning is fairly simple- the more “Republican” or “Democratic” a candidate appears to be, the more likely they’ll win their party’s nomination for office, and/or get reelected as an incumbent in the next election.

      It’s probably more accurate to say Fox News represents the views of the more dedicated Republicans in Congress.

    • FataMorganaPseudonym says:

      “It’s probably more accurate to say Fox News represents the views of the more dedicated Republicans in Congress.”

      Which is arguably even worse. “FOX News doesn’t necessarily represent the views of average citizens, it just represents the views of those in positions of power over average citizens.”

      Though, based on my own personal experiences, I’ve definitely met more than a few “average citizens” who treat FOX News as though it were gospel truth, which is plenty scary enough.