Unreal Not One Of Epic’s New Games

By Jim Rossignol on September 21st, 2011 at 11:36 am.

Not this time, big guy.
We mentioned a while back that Epic were developing a number of new games aside from the Gears franchise, and we couldn’t help hoping against hope that perhaps one of them might be Unreal 3. Not so, says Mike Capps. Talking to businesslication Forbes the Epic bossman said: “Unreal and Unreal Tournament continue to have a huge influence on the studio here, even though we’re not currently working on an Unreal IP project.” It’s not the first time that Capps has mentioned the U-word recently, but it’s the first indication that they’re not actually doing anything with it.

Writing in a blogpost on PC gaming journal Rock, Paper, Shotgun Jim Rossignol said “Aww, that’s a shame. But perhaps they are working on something exciting and new! That would be exciting. And new.”

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  1. Bull0 says:

    I am disappoint

    • dirtyword says:

      With an avatar like that, how can I not click on a good web to shopin

    • MisterT says:

      But they’re rebooting gears of war…as a space sim!

  2. Bfox says:

    I thought the Gears of War games are the unofficial continuation of Unreal?
    Guess that was just me.

    • Bull0 says:

      They’re talking quite specifically about the IP. There’s nothing whatsoever linking the Gears of War and Unreal IPs.

    • Khemm says:

      Epic is bound to change the name of their engine to Gears Engine, it sure is inevitable.

    • Bull0 says:

      Something about Cogs would be far more elegant

    • LionsPhil says:

      Perhaps the Gearbox engine.

      I mean, if Valve can have as confusing a name as “Source”…

    • GenBanks says:

      I think the people who actually care about games enough to know the names of engines won’t be confused by it being called ‘Unreal’ :p

    • DrGonzo says:

      Useless knowledge. The engine for Half Life 1 was also called ‘Source’ it only became ‘Gold Source’ when it was out of date and not used any more. Presumably the same thing will happen to their latest one.

  3. Fede says:

    Always informed that Jim Rossignol, you should interview him :)

  4. Uglycat says:

    Chuck Testa!

  5. CMaster says:

    While I’d love a new, good Unreal Tournament, I don’t think the current Epic would know how to make that. (Look at the descent into worse art and clunkier gameplay throughout the series – 2k4 only rescued the disaster of 2003 through brilliant vehicles and Assault missions, the core DM component never stood up compared to the original. Oh and the complete lack of a clue as to how UT SP should work. Yes, lots of UT99/2k4 players never played online. But that doesn’t mean they want a story-driven campaign from the game. Embrace the “sports” metaphor you’ve gone for, introduce a proper leauge structure, and make the SP campaign about managing a team, gaining (gun) sponsorship, recruiting star snipers/flag runners/flak monkeys)

    Can’t say I give a damn about the original Unreal.

    • LionsPhil says:

      Well, UTs prior to the mess that was UT3 had Digital Extremes’ help. And when DE split off, they went on to make lukewarm flop Pariah. Sum of parts and all that, I guess.

      I’m not sure why the single player Unreal francise should be getting anyone excited? The first one is mostly notable for being system-killing pretty/demanding for its day, and number two was another lukewarm bleurrrgh at best mostly notable for the protagonist wearing concrete shoes and his mission planner having zero-gravity concrete breasts. XMP was cute but died by association, and probably should have just been a game mode in the good side of the series: UT.

    • UnravThreads says:

      Lions, Unreal 2 wasn’t an Epic game ;)

    • Flint says:

      The first Unreal is one of my favourite FPSes of all time. The atmosphere in it is gorgeous and the level design overall excellent. If they were to do another singleplayer Unreal in its vein (which is unlikely admittedly at this day and age), I’d be immensely excited.

    • ShadowBlade says:

      @Flint

      I agree! Unreal 1 is definitely one of my favourite FPS games ever. The setting/theme was awesome, the music was awesome and the way it played out was excellent. None of this hand-holding nonsense or “missions”, just your character landing on this alien planet and figuring out what to do from there without some idiot telling you what to do.

      It’s probably not a good idea for Epic to create another Unreal with their current direction :(

    • Axyl says:

      Totally agree with Flint.

      For me..my deep love of FPS games started with Unreal.
      Half life just sealed the already brokered deal imo.

      Shame neither game has since recaptured it’s original glory, and only Half Life came even close.
      cos HL2 was awesome.

      *edit* OMG I have to reinstall Unreal Gold now. :D

    • Casimir Effect says:

      I actually found UT3 (and 2003) to be pretty enjoyable and could never see why people were so angry at them. Just copying the original UT but adding better graphics each time would have felt quite pointless to me. As it is, we now have 3 games (allowing that 2004 replaces 2003 as it did everything and more) which provide similar gaming experiences but with differences that allow all players to find the one they enjoy most or which one does their favourite gamemode best.

      As has been noted, UT did fantastic deathmatch, both regular and team, and the assault was a hell of a lot of fun. It also runs on a toaster by this point and totally holds up even more that 10 years later.
      UT2004 gave us bombing run (I loved this so much) and onslaught, while managing to keep most of the frenetic pace of the earlier game. Still, there were a few tweaks to certain weapons and the style of maps evolved in such a way that some players still preferred the older one for deathmatch, CTF etc.

      UT3 introduced a metric fucktonne of vehicles where the main highlight was the Necris ones, because they handled like little else found in any game previously. They felt alien to use and required a different mindset to get the most out of. Then there was the addition of the Hoverboard which I admit to missing whenever I go back to an older game. UT3 did slow the pace of things down a bit, but only very slightly. It could still be a stupidly fast and punishing game at times.
      I’ll admit its SP was crap though. A tournament system would have been far better.

    • LionsPhil says:

      The most fun thing about the hoverboard was watching all the BURLY MEN fall off of it like big babies if they were grazed by a bullet while being towed along.

      Which is to say that the infuriatingly terrible mobility was at least punctuated with a half-hearted make-the-most-of-it laugh.

    • Casimir Effect says:

      See I liked that. It meant if you had just got their flag and were running home with it you could make a choice: continue on foot where you would be slower but able to fire, or whip out the hoverboard so you could be faster but also have the chance of being knocked to the ground for several seconds thus making you an easier target.
      Gave an extra decision that could make things more tense/fun depending on your mindset. And of course, you could choose to never even touch the hoverboard yourself while delighting in shooting every Marty McFly wannabe off of theirs.

    • LionsPhil says:

      It was a gigantic step backwards from VCTF in UT2004, because on-foot movement speed is so slow. Not only did UT3 ruin the Hellbender, it ruined being getaway driver for it while the flag runner jumps into the moving passenger seat and starts skymining persuers.

    • Casimir Effect says:

      Movement in the vanilla game did feel slower than in the others but I tneded to only play the game iwth the game speed mutator set at 150%, making everything quicker.This isn’t a perfect fix for being slower but it worked for me.

      And anything that is detrimental to the Hellbender is fine with me. I hated that skymine firing dick more than I did the Darkwalker, and I.Hate.The Darkwalker.

    • Xocrates says:

      @Casimir Effect: The problem never was that UT2003 or UT3 were bad so much as the other ones were better.

      UT3 in particular had barely any of the gamemodes and introduced nothing significantly new, honestly the only reason I played it was that warfare was a bit better than onslaught.

      UT2003 is a bit trickier, but the comparison with 2004 just shows how details matter. From the annoying announcer, to the lightning gun being a poor replacement to the sniper (though not a bad gun), to the music and many maps, that game just felt weak by comparison.

    • LionsPhil says:

      I’d actually put the lightning gun above the UT2004 sniper, but that’s not really a comment on the strengths of the lightning gun as much as the weird, plasticy sound of the new rifle vs the old ’99 one.

      Although it does make ragdolls twitch around amusingly.

  6. CaspianRoach says:

    I wonder what would happen if Epic was outsourced to make a new Call of Duty game.

    • CMaster says:

      US special forces would develop hilariously huge shoulders, for a start.

    • Nallen says:

      Possibly the worst disaster in gaming history.

      Think Transformers 2 in game form. And I don’t mean the game of Transformers 2.

  7. diebroken says:

    About time a new Jazz Jackrabbit game was worked on… ;)

    • CMaster says:

      Can’t be worse than Jazz 2

    • LionsPhil says:

      I dunno…Jazz in Epic’s current HNGH MUSCLES, BRO rut…

      Well, I guess it’d be a spectacle, at least.

    • Koozer says:

      How dare you insult Jazz 2. I spent god knows how long playing that with my brother, cramped onto one keyboard. We never finished it, the devil was too hard…

  8. N says:

    Unreal 2 was reasonably fun for me. Had a cool mission where you gave orders to marines on how to defend a citadel of some sort.

  9. DiamondDog says:

    I hope the new game is exciting.

  10. Rao Dao Zao says:

    Am I the only one that almost cries every time at the end of Unreal II?

    UT3 cries out for a sequel too, bloody cliffhanger ending.

    • LionsPhil says:

      Unless we’re counting people crying out “I want my money back”, or “how could these be the same people who made UT99″ (Edit: Oh, right, they weren’t), probably.

  11. Rii says:

    People care what Epic is up to? PC people?

    How bizarre.

  12. Freud says:

    Unreal doesn’t have big enough dudes, big enough guns and big enough explosions.

  13. Jams O'Donnell says:

    I think Epic should remake Epic.

  14. Anthile says:

    I think I would like a new Unreal game but I doubt it could stand out in any way. The second game was already incredibly derivative when it came out back in 2003. Now a proper remake of the first game, that would be something.

  15. Khemm says:

    Cliffy B would ruin Unreal 3 with his “dudebro” style – seriously, it might make sense for Gears of War somewhat, but Unreal is about no tutorials, huge levels with little handholding and experiencing the alien world, being stranded there.

    UT 3 sucked, so even UT is just as dead as the main Unreal series. Good job, Epic. Working on consoles made you forget how to design good PC games.

  16. c-Row says:

    In related news, Unreal Engine 3 is finally coming to the Apple boxes.

  17. Axyl says:

    Unreal
    UT99
    UT2k4

    Anything else they’ve made has been a bitter disappointment. And I should know. I’ve bought and played every single Unreal Game ever made and every single Epic Game that came to PC.

    I’m using the Zombie Apocalypse rules here…
    It’s not who we once loved, even tho it kinda still looks like it in the right light..
    Double Tap to the head and walk away.

    RIP Unreal. You really were Epic. </3

    (Ps Unreal is my one most favourite game franchises ever because of the 1st 2 in that list, only rivalled by Half Life, hence the rather "deep and mournful" tone)

    • Zanchito says:

      “Zombie apocalypse rules”. I’m gonna use that nomenclature with some people who have trouble grasping the concepts of “change” and “no longer relevant”. Thanks!

    • LionsPhil says:

      Anything else they’ve made has been a bitter disappointment.

      Including Jazz Jackrabbit? Sir, I must protest.

    • Ridnarhtim says:

      How dare you. Jazz Jackrabbit is the best 2D platformer ever made, and JJ2 had a brilliantly simple level editor which, combined with one of the best online communities I know, provided endless hours of single and multiplayer fun!

      I think it’s time to play Jazz Jackrabbit through again. Right after I play through Unreal.

  18. Brumisator says:

    Here’s something for you, Jim.

  19. ScarthCaroth says:

    Ow well…. Unreal Tournament 3 wasn’t realy all that great (ut2k4 has more active servers then UT3 even now) also Unreal 2 was kinde disappointing. Let’s hope they make something truly great :)

  20. Ridnarhtim says:

    That’s Ok. I don’t really need another Unreal game to try to ruin my perfect memories of the first (still my favourite game in existence – nostalgia may have quite a bit to do with that, though). I don’t think Epic know how to make good games anymore. Which probably makes me sadder than anything else that’s been happening in the gaming industry.

  21. tungstenHead says:

    Sad skaaaarj. :(

    For me, Unreal Championship 2 is still one of the high points in the Unreal series for me, so it’s an immense shame that it was XBox exclusive. It has definitely got the best storyline of the Unreal series, touching on the bloodsport, succession rites, reanimation, romance and hypercorporate dickery. Beyond the storyline was the individual character tournaments that had less production values, but still offered a lot of play. And the gameplay was certainly something else. The powerful melee weapons were intense and the abundance of combo attacks and the huge list of adrenaline abilities made things super intricate. UC2 was the most heavily designed game in the entire series. Also, it had, IMO, the best art direction of all the Unreal games. The guns were the superdetailed sort of things like in UT3, and the characters featured a huge variety of styles.

    It was a good game, and I liked it, Xbox be damned.

  22. Michael Hoss says:

    Yes? No? AWWWW!

  23. prodigy84bg says:

    Being a massive UT fan since the first Unreal Tournament, I would say that UT2003 was the only game in the series that wasn’t very good. I don’t get why some people don’t like UT3, other than for it being not totally the same as UT1. Yes, UT1 might have been a better game for its time, but UT3 has a more refined and balanced gameplay and offers more variety. The only serious advantage that UT1 holds is the level design, but most classic maps have been remade for UT3. Disregarding the nostalgia factor, for me UT3 is the best game in the series, and being quite happy with it, I don’t think there’s any need for a new UT game. Also, UT4 should certainly be based on the Unreal 4 Engine, which won’t be coming out anytime soon.

  24. Dowson says:

    This is seriously the most disappointing and depressing news I’ve had in a long time.

    Well, hopefully id will reveal that they were developing a new Quake all along.

  25. Shooop says:

    Why does a PC gaming site care what Epic is doing?

  26. cpy says:

    Oh how i loved gun in unreal 2 the awakening.
    How good level was when i was spraying napalam on floor and then burning spiders when they went on.
    And Aida! Awwwwww yeaaaaah!

  27. LTK says:

    When I think about an FPS from the good old days, I think of Unreal. I fondly remember the original’s amazingly varied and huge open world. I wish developers remembered how to do those. I hoped Hard Reset would get it right, but for all its merits it’s still a corridor shooter, just one where the corridors cross with themselves.

    Remember all the environments from Unreal? The valley, the spire, Nali castle, the floating island, the alien spaceship; nowadays you could expect to see one game for every level Unreal had. Sadness.

  28. LostViking says:

    Agh. I have had so much fun with Unreal 1 and 2 and UT2K4. A new Unreal single player game, using the awesome graphics in their latest engine (3.5?), would have been kick-ass!

  29. elnalter says:

    <3 ut2k4

    epic can keep making bad games, i stopped caring about them a long time ago.
    how about that tribes ascend?

  30. pupsikaso says:

    “But perhaps they are working on something exciting and new! That would be exciting. And new.”

    Right… as if Bulletstorm was exciting or good

  31. Cunzy1 1 says:

    Also hot in the “news”.

    Zynga, Capcom, Bullfrog and EA Sports Big also not making game they aren’t making.

    All in the same week?