Eve Online Dropped Into The Crucible

By Jim Rossignol on December 1st, 2011 at 8:59 am.

TV in space is not so interesting.
The latest Eve expansion switches on today, and includes a bunch of things that should please Eve players, such as new battlercruisers, and pretties such as new nebulae, and ephemera such as new captain’s quarters, and VITAL visual tweaks such as new engine trails. The most amazing thing, however, is the concept of slowing down time to deal with big fleet fights. I’ve no idea if that will work, but it’s the cleverest solution to the lag problem I’ve seen offered so far.

Thumping great spaceship battle trailer below.

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  1. Meat Circus says:

    Thus turning fleet battles into quasi-turn-based events? Cor.

    It’s been a year since I last flew. Maybe it is once again TIME.

    • Shinikake says:

      No it’s not. As always, every new expansion introduces bugs and this expansion is no different. Also it seems they’ve pulled out an older revision of code to base this expansion on. In doing so, a lot of prior tweaks and features have been removed as well as some older bugs reintroduced. That being said, some claim that it runs or feels smoother now. Also there seems to be some rumors around that doomsday weapons cannot be used on pos, or other ships aside from other titans (need confirmation).

      One thing I will stress, the backdrops of space in hisec look pretty. Oh and I want the old eve font back.

    • abremms says:

      As I understand it, doomsdays are supposed to only be able to target Supercapital ships (titans, supercarriers) I didn’t think POSs would be dissallowed, that might be a mistake, but the change overall makes a lot of sense from a balance standpoint. it’ll go a long ways toward diversifying fleet makeup and getting more hull variety into nullsec warfare. At the very least the various supercap changes will move things way from the titan/scarrier mobs bashing things up without support from smaller ships.

    • Kamotracker says:

      The Doomsdays are just prohibited from attacking sub-capital ships. This has been known for a month at least. Where are you reading that they used ‘old code’? I mean that’s terribly unspecific, EVE has lots of different elements with different code…what was changed? I haven’t seen any mention of it, it goes against everything I read in the devblogs, and quite frankly I have reason to doubt your claim a bit since you were unaware of the specifics of the Doomsday nerf. I mean if you can link me to a forum thread or something so I can read up on it, I would like to know. But so far, I haven’t noticed any old bugs.

  2. AmateurScience says:

    I’ve always wanted to give Eve a go, but haven’t got the foggiest where to even start.

    • Meat Circus says:

      You always need to get in a good player-run corp ASAP.

      You could try RPS Inc. They’re the nice sort of Evil Space Capitalists.

    • Hanban says:

      There are 60-day trials these days, so if you’re looking to try it out shout up!

    • Hoarr says:

      to echo what hanban and meat circus said, RPS Holdings is always looking for new people; both new to the game and new to us. We have a whole lot of 60 day free trials to hand out, so shout out either here or in the recruitment thread on the RPS forums. Quick FYI, if you end up liking the game and subscribing, you still get to use the free time..

    • Davee says:

      But I’m guessing you can’t use the 60 day free on already existing accounts, can you (otherwise you’d already sent it to your own fellow pilots)?

    • mentor07825 says:

      As someone who enjoys hanging out in the RPS channel in game as well it’s a brilliant place to chat. RPS Holdings is a good place to start if you’re new. That, or Eve University. There are several notable people in that chat channel that are always hilarious to talk to, such as Duck.

      - Darth Brole

    • ajewers says:

      I’ve been lurking around the RPS comments for a while now and i was just wondering if any kind stranger has one of these free trials spare? Been meaning to try eve for a while so i thought i’d ask.

  3. Jekhar says:

    The Wub-Wub is strong with this one.

  4. Keilnoth says:

    Time to lose all my friends, and use my entire life to produce a bunch of ISKies. I wish I had enough courage to do that again. Sit down, type my credit card number and then lose every single real life enjoyments I had during the last 2 years.

  5. Halkyon says:

    That’s quite an impressive turnaround from the F2P drama, but I still doubt it’ll be fun for those without the time to commit fully to a decent player corporation.

    If they’d give me a couple of days free to try it I might just re-sub.

    • Jim Rossignol says:

      “I still doubt it’ll be fun for those without the time to commit fully to a decent player corporation.”

      That’s pretty much permanently true of Eve.

    • Max.I.Candy says:

      exciting looking stuff.
      like you say tho, to see those big battles you need to commit.
      its tempting for me to re-sub, but just to much rl stuff going on + other games :(

    • mandrill says:

      I would disagree, I’ve managed to enjoy playing the game on and off for the last 8 years without getting heavily involved in the corporate shenanigans. I have friends and compatriots who I fly with, even though I may not be a member of their corporations. I’m quite happy pootling about on my own, doing my own thing and watching the momentous events happen from the sidelines.

      Ofc, whether this will be true when I re-sub in January is another matter. I could get sucked into the next great war, or become heavily involved in a WH mining operation. That’s the beauty of EVE (not counting its visual beauty), you never know what’s going to happen.

      I really hope CCP continue along the new course they have plotted and can’t wait to be raining down fire on console jockeys from orbit.

    • Jim Rossignol says:

      ” I’m quite happy pootling about on my own, doing my own thing and watching the momentous events happen from the sidelines.”

      I think that would make you the exception, rather than the rule. To get the most out of Eve you need to do PvP with people you trust.

    • President Weasel says:

      From my own experience fleeting with them, the RPS EVE Corp (helpfully titled RPS Holdings) won’t require you to be uber or to always be logged in, but will instead be happy for you to pootle about in their fleets making things explode no matter what level your player skill or character’s skills are at.

      Anyone who can make tackles is welcome, and that’s literally anyone.

    • Kamotracker says:

      I think what President Weasel says holds pretty true across many corps. I’ve run into plenty of corps who allow you to come along on PVP ops regardless of playtime. In fact, I would say more do than not. It’s just extremely super crazy important that you find a corp that fits your playstyle.

      It’s not like in a traditional MMO where the big group raids have loot drops,and there would be a time requirement for getting said loot. With PVP ops, you just want more bodies to throw at a target, so you’re happy to take anyone. The only real obstacle is providing ships for the op, but keeping a spare battlecruiser is not expensive and you can get the ISK for one in pretty short order. And there are even plenty of corps who will provide ships for corp ops, too.

      I would disagree with Jim’s statement a bit on PVP being the norm, or the point of EVE…there are TONS of hisec carebears. I don’t understand them either, but these guys are quite content to run missions, fill production lines, and shoot rocks all day (and they aren’t ALL bots). In the grand scheme of things they may be a statistical minority, but they make up a sizable chunk of the population. Looking at numbers, there are somewhere between 350-400k subscribers. There are about 50-60k players total in big alliances like RED, White Noise, Goons, TEST, PL, etc., Now if you assume 2-3 times that number are in smaller corps and alliances who occupy nullsec, that still leaves a large chunk of the playerbase out doing who knows what.

      Now granted, EVE is still far from what I consider a casual MMO, but I think it’s far more casual-friendly than what most people usually give it credit for. Once you get established, you can make tons of ISK logging in for just an hour a day, thanks to the nature of the industry system and skill system. The real problem is just learning the damn thing initially….there is just so much to wrap your head around, and it takes a while. In most MMOs nowadays, 3 months in you are nearing max level, if you aren’t there already. In EVE, you are quite literally considered a noob still. And that’s why it’s all the more important to find a corp that fits you…EVE players love to help new players learn the ropes, and once you settle into the right corp, you will learn what you need to know.

    • orftz says:

      You guys just got me convinced. I’ll join RPSH.

  6. mandrill says:

    If this trailer brings in new players it will merely be a happy side-effect. This trailer, and this entire expansion, is an attempt to bring back the :bittervet: contingent who quit in disgust over the last year. If twitter and FHC are anything to go by then it seems to be working. I know I’ll be re-subbing after xmas.

    • Max.I.Candy says:

      I joined Perpetuum, which is an excellent game btw, but ive not played in weeks and weeks.
      i suppose their numbers might see a fall.

  7. Stevostin says:

    Ah, they brought back the electro soundtrack in Eve trailers. I so much missed the old ones, before the “let’s do orchestral unpersonnal soundtracks just like everyone unless the unique passionated odd electro” trend. Good move, sirs.

  8. Thermal Ions says:

    “and includes a bunch of things that should please Eve players”

    Is that even possible?
    (spoken by a non Eve player, only going on reading of news site / blog posts over recent years).

  9. Kollega says:

    Every time i see an EVE-related piece of news, i wonder if we can have the same awesome depth and player-generated drama, but with less treacherous dickery. In addition to the time and patience requirement, the second biggest thing that puts me off this game is that everyone wants to rob you blind and throw you out the airlock.

    I’ve imagined once that people could build a huge MMO set in high fantasy, space opera, superhero comics, Bond-style spy fiction, or other suitably morally black-and-white setting that encompasses the fight of good and evil. You can join the baddies if you want to build nefarious plots and act like Dr. Evil, or the goodies if you want to do stereotypically good stuff like saving the world or assaulting the evil bases. It could perhaps fall victim to “good is boring”, but that could be remedied by having more factions: one “truly good”, one “truly evil”, one “selfishly good”, and one “selfishly evil”.

    • Halkyon says:

      Well you could kill NPCs for moralistic factions.

    • kyrieee says:

      I don’t think so. The predatory behaviour is the root of most of the interesting things that happen in the game. It’s not as bad as you might think though because you’re forced to learn very quickly that it’s just a game and anything bad that might have happened to you was preventable. I think it’s strikes a good balance; it’s not Ultima Online with high level characters just standing around to gank newbies.

    • Gesadt says:

      what kyrieee said. you cant expect to have truly sandbox mmo without cutthroat aspect of of it. and really whats also beautiful about it is, like in real life, youre a lot less likely to get scammed or killed, if you keep your wits about and not be lazy. but this undercurrent of risk everywhere is what makes eve exciting.

      also if anyone wants 60 day trial PM “grasskit” on rps forums

  10. Ovno says:

    Must resist resubbing
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  11. zergl says:

    “The latest Eve expansion switches on today”

    It went live on Tuesday already, Jimmy. :P

  12. rain_tian says:

    I’m an authorised recruiter for goonfleet. The biggest and best nullsec alliance in Eve.

    Give me a shout if you would be interested in joining. I am Rain Tian in game.

    • kyrieee says:

      This man will give you a good introduction to EVE

    • phuzz says:

      The sort of introduction you won’t forget!

    • Doctor Nil says:

      Sweet, is there any sort of in-game fee to join?

    • kael13 says:

      Don’t goonfleet recruiters have a reputation of screwing over new pilots for every poor iskie they have? Or is that here-say, simply from days of yore.

  13. Scatterbrainpaul says:

    Does anybody want to hit me with a 60 day free pass?

    I can’t pull off saying things like hit me

    • Gesadt says:

      sure i can PM you one, once it becomes available, (this evening i think it should be)

    • Scatterbrainpaul says:

      Thanks, that would be brilliant. I use to play a bit years ago

      A 60 day pass should be enough for me to get right back into it

    • Hoarr says:

      If anyone else is interested in a 60 day free trial, drop me a line on the RPS forums. Each person gets one of them to give out, but there are a lot of us on the forums, so there are plenty of people who can hook you up.

  14. Horza says:

    No mention of the best new feature?

    SPIN COUNTER in hangar!

  15. Batolemaeus says:

    I’m an Eve player and can confirm Meat Circus’ assessment.

  16. buzzmong says:

    Lots of new stuff is good but there’s still some balance issues in the game.
    The new art style isn’t to my liking, far too dark, but that might be a shader issue with some ships. Hopefully.

    The new font however, while slightly more legible on a per character basis, has done terrible things to the amount of screen space you have (had) due to it being a fair bit taller. Which is a problem if like me, you’re skint and can’t afford to replace a perfectly working non-widescreen 19″ on a whim just to get some extra screenspace.

  17. BebopBraunbaer says:

    i can remember Supreme Commander had a similar solution, there would never be a lag, the game would just slow down.. and often it would be like slowmo all over the place, because it would never get back to normal until the end of game.

  18. Eskatos says:

    I see this trailer and am tempted to resub, and then I remember that in my years of playing I never had any situations as badass as the ones depicted in the video.

  19. Noble Noob says:

    The radically different views of what Eve is comes from the fact that you are not limited. You are not limited to a career, a play-style, an area, or a way to make isk.

    So your experience with Eve is what you make it. There is no storyline to follow, although they have added some epic mission arches that give you a similar feeling for a while.

    You can totally avoid pvp and become rich and famous, like Chribba or live on nothing else except pvp, like Noir mercenaries; its up to you. Eve can be casual or not, a lot of which depends on who you hang out with and what you do. If you get tired of something, just change your focus.

    You don’t have to grind to advance your character, the only grind is to make isk and that can be done in a multitude of ways even passively.

    As far as this expansion goes, I think it will be one of the most favored by players. It gives a lot of things that we have wanted for a while. And makes some new and excellent additions. The new look in space is awesome, I got dizzy undocking the first time.

    I just hope they keep going with Dust 541, like someone said I want to drop some bombs on ground players.

    Don’t try to join the Goons, its a trick you will get ripped off. Do join Eve University, they are the best corp for new players.

    Have Fun and Fly Safe

    • Doctor Nil says:

      Eve Uni is the way to go for new players. You will not regret joining AND you will get a quick taste of how deep and sick the game is when you realize that they actually hold classes to teach you how to play.

      Shit, I’d consider resubbing if I was on the eve (…) of retiring. Playing this game to its full potential and maintain a grip in the real world is no easy task! Uh, wait for me Eve, I’ll come back to you in 30 years!!!

  20. ShEsHy says:

    Anyone got a spare 60 Day trial? Been wanting to try Eve for a long time, but 14 days just isn’t enough.