Skyrim Mod Tools Coming Next Week

By Craig Pearson on January 20th, 2012 at 10:24 am.

Keep still: his vision's based on being a massive fucking dragon thing
There’s so much to see and do in Skyrim that I might make a mod to hide half of it. I keep getting distracted by bears fighting dragons fighting the Forsworn, when all I really want to do is harvest some Nirnroot. Next week I’ll be able to start the long process of unfunning it when the mod tools, The Creation Kit, are released, alongside patch 1.4. You can pretend you were born on the first of January and look here for the full patch details. Read it in Max Von Sydow’s voice, for greater effect.

1.4 also brings the Skyrim’s Steam Workshop, a browseable mod store that players can use to upload, rate and download mods, all hosted on Steam. I’m fascinated: mods are usually treated like an unexploded bomb by publishers and developers, especially after Hot Coffee. They can plausibly deny the content and their connection to it if they just give the development tools and let you get on with it, but Valve and Bethesda are hosting player’s creations. They’re essentially publishing it. That’s rather brave.

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  1. BoZo says:

    Yes!

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    Clavus says:

    “They’re essentially publishing it. That’s rather brave.”

    I don’t think they’ll allow the more questionable mods to be hosted. Luckily the Steam workshop isn’t required to install mods so the Skyrim Nexus should still function.

    • kukouri says:

      I’m excited. Hope Nexus still works, I like being able to get things through Steam, but I love Nexus as well.

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      Bluerps says:

      Yeah – I’d be surprised if the countless “change every female clothing to lingerie of some kind”-mods or the “give every woman the measurements of a pornstar”-mods would make it onto Steam (or stay there long, if they do).

    • Monkey says:

      As much as i like the nexuseses, having to trawl threw a thousand big boob, skimpy armour, guy with boner mods is a little annoying. They really need to put all that stuff in a separate category

      It does need to be careful not to be sidelined as the “skyrim porn mod” site while steam takes the rest

    • Calneon says:

      There are top 100 lists for adult mods, and non adult mods. I generally have no problem avoiding the adult stuff.

    • Cythraul says:

      Monkey,

      Calneon has already beat me to it, but I’ll reiterate: there are search options on Skyrim Nexus that can allow or block adult-only mods in your queries. In fact, if you’re not logged in to your Nexus account, the adult content mods don’t even show up at all, no matter how you’re searching.

    • Monkey says:

      I know there is a non-adult search. But go to the armour category and sort by endorsements. Most of them (not all i know) are skimpy female versions of armours. Its not the biggest problem in my life i grant you, but still

    • Urthman says:

      As much as i like the nexuseses, having to trawl threw a thousand big boob, skimpy armour, guy with boner mods is a little annoying.

      Poor guy. I hope you never have to use Google image search.

    • edwardoka says:

      The irony of course is that I imagine that “adult” mods are more likely to be created and used by people who are rather immature – or am I being too judgemental? :/

  3. olemars says:

    Desura has an excellent mod “store” that works wonderfully, even when the game the mod is for is installed through steam, so it’s not like this concept is such a novel thing.

    Especially useful now that Megaupload is dragged into the dungeons, meaning 90% of download links for mods are dead…

  4. mjig says:

    I don’t see why I would ever use the Steam Workshop over Skyrim Nexus, especially with how easy the mod manager is to use now. Seems like this only serves to make it more annoying to browse mods, since I will have to do it both places to make sure I haven’t missed anything awesome.

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    TheApologist says:

    Good news, everyone!

    As someone who is vaguely mod-wary given a mix of not quite knowing where to go, what to get and where to put it when I have it (make your own jokes), this is good news. All that great user-made stuff in a convenient place in Steam makes me happy.

    • DickSocrates says:

      It’s already all in a convient place called Skyrim Nexus. And the Nexus sites have single handedly kept all Bethesda games alive by providing mod space for the past 10 years.

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      TheApologist says:

      You’re right, of course. And I know it is just part laziness and part fear (of wrecking my game), but I think it being right there in Steam might mean I actually use them rather than just intending to.

      I’m part of the problem :(

    • Velvetmeds says:

      You know what’s even more convenient than Nexus? Having them on Steam. Cause you need Steam to play the game, therefore Steam will likely be open, therefore you don’t even need to go to firefox, open a bookmark, etc. It’s right THERE ————————————> on steam

    • Kent says:

      Single… ? Dude, I went to all other kinds of places for my Morrowind mods. Heck, I still do. Even for Oblivion I went to several other places before giving nexus an eye once in a while. Why would I do that? Because Nexus hosts a lot… and I do mean a lot of low quality content. Believe it or not but I don’t need three different breast enhancement mods. I don’t need lousy animations made in sodding Blender and I definitely don’t need three hundred weapons that have the exact same models as the weapons already in the game.

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      MajorManiac says:

      @TheApologist:

      If you’re unsure how to use mods for Skyrim, I think you’ll find the Nexus Mod Manager a very usful tool. It makes it possible to download and install a mod in 3 mouse clicks.

      To install the Nexus Mod Manager follow this great youtube vid (which includes the link you need) – http://youtu.be/N_4RotEtks0

      Then (as described in the video), go to the Nexus website – http://skyrimnexus.com/downloads/top/alltime.php

      This is the easiest way to install mods I’ve come across in 15 years of gaming. So I hope you find this useful.

    • Grygus says:

      That is why Nexus has a search function and endorsement system. Sort by endorsement, and the community favorites are at the top. There are also categories so that you can look for exactly the kind of mod you want. If you’re trying to find a mod by just clicking ‘Top 100 All Time’ and browsing the list, you’re doing it in the least efficient way available.

      I also like the implicit faith that Steam will not host low quality mods, including a hundred sword retextures. I hope you are not too heart-broken.

  6. Khemm says:

    When are they going to patch out Steam DRM? The game was essentially DRM-free once you got through the painful process of getting your retail copy to run, but of course they had to patch the DRM in !

    • ResonanceCascade says:

      It’s like listening to my crazy grandpa who still complains that the U.S. went off the gold standard. That ship has sailed.

    • Grygus says:

      Yeah I’m of the opinion that current DRM solutions are a complete waste of time and money, but Steam has grown beyond mere DRM; it has actual benefits and some tens of millions of users. You may as well welcome your new Steam overlords.

      It’s okay to still hate Origin, though. Just copy and paste all your objections there, plus add a bullet point at the bottom about how it isn’t even as good as Steam, a service you can barely bring yourself to accept. Instant Internet acceptance.

    • Kaira- says:

      Steam’s few benefits aren’t something that explains the need for the DRM, those services could well be offered without tying them to the DRM-side.

    • Zelius says:

      @Kaira,

      That’s exactly the point. The benefits of Steam are there because DRM is there. They’re meant to “distract” people from the downsides of DRM use. When Gabe Newell said “piracy is a service issue”, he was specifically talking about this idea. Providing better service and benefits over the benefits pirating might have, like a DRM-free (and free in general) product.

    • Josh W says:

      Hmm, so if you stop skyrim receiving patches, it’s drm free forever? But the moment you get patches you get DRM too? Seems quite an elegant solution actually, choose one or the other.

  7. Schadenfreude says:

    Which Max Von Sydow voice? His actual voice or the terrible impersonator who seems to provide half of his character’s lines?

    Seriously, what was up with that? Jarringly stupid and insulting that they thought people wouldn’t notice.

    • The Tupper says:

      Max Von Sydow’s in the game!?! I’m 300 hours in and I haven’t heard him (I think). Is he hiding in Solitude? I haven’t explored much there.

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      RobF says:

      Yeah, that was a really weird thing to do.

    • Schadenfreude says:

      @ The Tupper

      If you go through the main quest you can’t miss him; he won’t turn up otherwise.

    • The Tupper says:

      That’ll be the reason then – I still haven’t quite finished the main quest line. Thanks.

    • Burning Man says:

      Wow this is a real thing? o.O Can you like me to a place with more details? I never noticed it myself, but even if I did, I doubt I would have indulged the thought.

  8. terry says:

    I’m excited by this, but hopefully there’s a robust conflict detection system. BOSS was a godsend for this with Oblivion, and I’m assuming there’s going to be some sort of master list. I’m sort of worried that people will scroll down the list installing everything and then melting down when Sexy Raindrops.esm makes Whiterun turn pink.

  9. Recidivist says:

    Psssst, it’s Nirnroot :>

    Also; Yay.

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      TheApologist says:

      *googles*

      Oh yeah, so it is! How on earth have I read that wrong for literally hundreds of hours?!

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      Craig Pearson says:

      I totally read it wrong every single time.

    • The Tupper says:

      I only realised two days ago that it’s ‘HAGraven’ rather than ‘HARGraven’. Makes sense, in retrospect.

    • MultiVaC says:

      Wow, I read “Hagraven” as “Hargraven” for quite a while as well. Weird.

  10. Davee says:

    HECK YES! Now I just need to come up with a good mod idea.

    • Nemon says:

      Well, how about announcing a huge epic province mod – only to have the entire project take an arrow in the knee when it turns out no one is capable of making the required gazillion meshes, textures and scripts required? Those are always fun to watch.

    • westyfield says:

      Have you considered maybe something involving… breasts?

    • Shatners Bassoon says:

      Davee! You Vikingr sod, tis Aethelwulf. Shall harass you on Steam sometime as well we have a few ideas up our sleeves, I have about 12 pages of ideas but yes the more help the merrier if your interested that is.

    • Shatners Bassoon says:

      Yarr Davee you Vikingr sod! Tis Aethelwulf here, I shall pester you on Steam sometime as I and some of the lads have several pages worth of ideas and one bloody large one. The more help the merrier, if your interested that is.

    • Grygus says:

      Unsolicited advice: start small. The most important thing for your first mod, even more than originality or quality, is to actually complete it.

  11. DickSocrates says:

    Hopefully all the stuff still appears on Skyrim Nexus, or perhaps just have the unreasonably large mods on Steam. Still, seems like a bit of a kick in the teeth for Nexus, which has been superb for so long. Will just have to wait and see what it does to Nexus.

    AND another thing, most of the mods people have been joking about here already exist and didn’t need the Creation tools. Modding is already quite advanced for Skyrim and I wouldn’t play the game without a certain combination of 10 mods that undoubtedly improve the game. None of those mods are naked women, btw. I got that particular fetish out of my system during Fallout 3.

    • Furius says:

      You can’t go five minutes in a Skyrim Mod thread without someone denouncing the nudie mods. Well I love the nudie mods. I even downloaded the nudie men one. In fact I recently upgraded to a more comically proportioned nudie mod as I was bored of the semi-realistic one i had. And I’m 28. so there. (To be fair though at least you’re saying you did it in FO3)

  12. Ian says:

    Is it wrong that what I want most at this moment in time is a room with a bunch of armor stands?

    I’ve got all the houses but not enough armor stands to put all the sets I’ve collected on. :( Preferably one inside one of them secret cupboards so I can put ones like my DB gear and, er, the Emperor’s clothes in there.

  13. The Tupper says:

    Just a quick shout for the SkyUI mod if anyone still isn’t using it. It’s the inventory mod that was mentioned here a month or so ago and is brilliant. It’s been updated recently as well, now covering spells/effects.

    Edit: Btw – I’ve always been a bit shy of changing my games from vanilla. SkyUI’s the only mod I’ve ever used for anything, I think.

    • Monkey says:

      Agreed SkyUI is a big big improvement

    • Sp4rkR4t says:

      SkyUI is so unfinished it’s actually worse then the default to me, QD Inventory is a far better alternative to me.

    • Donkeyfumbler says:

      It’s certainly unfinished, in that they have certain aspects of the UI still to work on, but those they have change are so much better that I struggle to see how you could say that it’s worse than the default.

      SkyUI and the Categorized favourites menu (with, optionally, Headbomb’s better sorting) make a huge difference to the amount of time spent fiddling with the UI, especially if you bother with Alchemy/enchanting/smithing.

  14. soylentrobot says:

    i guess steam workshop will allow them to control the inevitable and terrible horde of dreadful anime mods that plagued oblivion

    and i never get the enter your age to proceed thing. it let me in and i said i was born in 1862, its not exactly difficult for a child to fool it

  15. TooMiserable says:

    But I… But I WAS born on the first of january…

    In any case, OH GOD FINALLY!

  16. Tams80 says:

    Hey, Hot Coffee was a rather… expected mod. Don’t go decrying it!

  17. engion3 says:

    Noooo I just got my game perfect with all my mods. I can’t even imagine all the stuff that will come out with a development kit. Check it outtt

    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970431892/screenshots/

    I have been going to the Nexus since Oblivion. The Nexus has the most devoted modders I have ever seen for any games. I’ll surely still go there but the steamworks could be a great entry point for people to by introduced to modding.

  18. DigitalSignalX says:

    Anything that exposes more people to mods and the mod community is a good thing. My hope is once the truly virgin users get used to what Steam can do to improve their game, they’ll graduate to Nexus where they can drill down into the minutia of all the amazing things that likely will never make its way to Steam – simply because the majority of the established community doesn’t reside there.