Good Old Games Gone: Relaunches As GOG.com

By John Walker on March 27th, 2012 at 10:03 am.

Shiny.

Good Old Games is gone. But GOG.com continues on. In light of their starting to take orders for more recent games, the words are gone from their name and only the acronym remains. This comes alongside their new frontpage, the news that they’ll be aiming to add three games a week instead of two, an improved downloader, and the addition of The Whispered World, Trine, and the soon-to-be-added Machinarium, Darwinia and Spacechem. Oh, and they’re taking pre-orders for the Dungeon Master inspired Legend Of Grimrock. So where does this leave their identity?

Clearly this pushes GOG further toward the larger crowd of digital distributors, now beginning to compete with newly launched games. And clearly the loss of the word “Old” from their name reflects their intention to sell new games, and newer games. And, I’d argue, the loss of “Good” does somewhat reflect that their selection process has perhaps not been entirely focused on bringing back only classic games. But the crucial thing, I think, is that they’re sticking by their previous mantra of no regional pricing, and no DRM. And in that light, the move is really interesting. Carrying more recently released games, but insisting that they sell nothing loaded with DRM, will be something to watch.

Also worth noting is the apparent addition of a new pricing level, with The Whispered World going for $14.99. At two years old, it’s slightly disappointing to see the game not dropping to $9.99 (although it currently costs $19.99/£14.99 on Steam). The new site has a bunch of new features, and the new downloader will apparently be faster, as well as download new extras and patches, and even alert you to PMs and forum replies.

Quite how many new games will be willing to launch via their service, unable to fiddle with regional pricing to gouge the Europeans/Australians etc, as is the wont of our lovely industry, will be interesting to note. The current plan is to wait a while after the initial release before selling more mainstream games, perhaps a year later, at a point where publishers may be happier to see the DRM gone. But this of course gives more sensibly-minded pubs the opportunity to avoid the web of Steam/Origin’s intrinsic DRM. Interesting stuff.

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147 Comments »

  1. Bhazor says:

    Well I for one am a GOG at this development.

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      P7uen says:

      Yes it’s great, I’ll continue to beat the DRM for them.

      • Lycan says:

        Yeah, they should have gone with Good Old and New Games, then the announcement could have been made after the ceremonial sounding of a gong…

        *duck*

        • TechnicalBen says:

          Great, Origional Games?
          Great Or…. you get the picture. ;)

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          RedViv says:

          I, for one, would have liked to purchase at GONG. Because that’s a very pleasant sound to imagine a shopping spree to.

          • Lycan says:

            Clearly you haven’t played enough Shogun 2 Total War, or you’d be associating the gong with “stop faffing about with your unit deployment and get ON with the war!” rather than shopping, per se :P

        • ThinkAndGrowWitcher says:

          Surely “OhMyGog.com” or “SonOfGog.com” were the natural choices…

          …with “Gogging.com” reserved for all those adult porn-based Amiga games updated for modern operating sextems.

    • Jimbo says:

      gg

    • Skabooga says:

      The new website is so shiny, I have to wear goggles.

  2. Bob says:

    I guess when the Witcher 2 went for sale there, apart from “family enterprise” reasons, was a heralding of things to come. Personally I like the move as it’s a chance to not only buy classics but get some contemporary games at a decent price and DRM free.

    • Kefren says:

      GOG was already my favourite place to buy games, for reasons of them being DRM-free, and hosting older games. This is, therefore, fantastic news for me. I normally complain about things, so it is great when something happens that actually makes the world seem a bit better.

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    Mungrul says:

    This is definitely promising. I could see this replacing Steam for me if they manage to get new AAA releases. Sure, I’d miss Steam’s Overlay, but the lure of my software being DRM free is a strong one.

    • Post-Internet Syndrome says:

      And there is Evolve, that could potentially replace the community features of steam, with added vpn and video recording. Don’t know how big it is yet, but we shall se.

    • Xocrates says:

      You mean the Steam overlay you can add to any game you have on your computer?

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        VelvetFistIronGlove says:

        Explanation for those who are unaware: you can run any game through Steam, with the “Add non-Steam game” button*. Every game that you run this way—apart from a few old incompatible ones—gets the Steam overlay, with friends, voice chat, browser, etc. just a Shift-Tab away.

        *If you select a game shortcut that had command line arguments, this unfortunately doesn’t preserve them. You’ll need to go to the shortcut properties, and copy the arguments into the Steam entry’s ‘launch options’.

        • galaxion says:

          in BF3, the steam overlay seems to make my game very unstable.

          • jamesgecko says:

            Yeah, there’s been a few games in the past that don’t place nicely with it. Even some sold on Steam. You can disable it on a per-game basis and just use Steam as a launcher, though.

          • EOT says:

            Steam’s version of BF2 will PB kick you for using the Steam Overlay…I’d take a bit of instability any day over that. Though it’s not like I play much BF2 any more so I suppose I really mustn’t grumble.

            It’s PB’s fault more than Valve’s and PB is terrible.

  4. Svant says:

    Chaning the name seems redundant even a new game can simple me a Good old game. But good for them!

  5. Jams O'Donnell says:

    But what does GOG mean now?

    Games of Greatness
    Graham’s Ovaries Glow
    Go On, Game!
    God’s Outrageous Gonads

    • Bhazor says:

      Game Over Greg.
      Which is a name that should always be shouted.

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      Makariel says:

      Maybe they are under Dutch management now:
      Geef Ons Geld (give us money)

      (I apologize to the Dutch for my probably lacking grasp of their language)

      • Zelius says:

        No, that was spot-on, actually. ;)

        And sure, I’ll gladly give them money.

    • GiantRaven says:

      ‘GOG’ just means ‘GOG’, much like ‘DC’ means ‘DC’ rather than ‘Detective Comics’.

      • Lycan says:

        Or “BP” means BP and not British Petroleum…

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        Rhygadon says:

        And, for the elder gamers: TSR (original publishers of D&D) announcing that it no longer stood for “Tactical Simulations Rules”

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      Lambchops says:

      You’re all wrong it’s clearly (drumroll please!)

      Gallons of Gravy

    • Prime says:

      Gathering of Games?
      Gallery of Games?
      Games of Glory?
      Giant Orgasmic Goodness?
      God’s Own Games?
      Gluttony of Gamers?

    • Suits says:

      RPS renamed to Good Old Puns

      • Sarlix says:

        That should be Good Old New Puns.

        I’d like to think we’re progressive here at RPS. Sorry, GONP.

      • mmalove says:

        Please, no. In the US, GOP stands for Grand Old Party, aka the Republicans (they’re the socially conservative ones that want more guns/wars and less schools/health care).

      • Fumarole says:

        It already stands for Really Punny Site.

    • TechnicalBen says:

      I vote for “Go on game!”
      I read that (out loud) in the Radio 1 voice. :D

    • Sarlix says:

      Generous Old Gits?

    • d32 says:

      I actually means:
      Good Old GOG.

  6. sinister agent says:

    I am very mildly dismayed by the new price also, but suspect there was limited mileage in the ‘old’ games thing anyway, what with legal and technical issues and stupid linear time and all. So… well yes, the important thing is that they’ve stuck to their guns over DRM being pointless and shit, so they’re still the best out there as far as I’m concerned.

    What will be really interesting is seeing how they cope now that they’re competing even more directly with Steam et al. Valve are respectable and all, but they can be pretty hard nosed, too. Price wars 2012?

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      frymaster says:

      Valve can’t directly set prices. They can suggest to people that a lower price will be more profitable, and are good at persuading people to take part in sales, but at the end of the day it’s up to the devs/publishers

  7. Jams O'Donnell says:

    This is also the first time I’ve seen a price for Grimrock. Not sure why that information has been so hard to find.

  8. terry says:

    It doesn’t make any difference to me, it’s still gog. gog gog gog gog gog gog.

    • Arona Daal says:

      Ha, they are too chicken to change their Brand Name . GOG GOG GOG O GOOOO.

    • djbriandamage says:

      The only reason it matters to me is that GOG is hard to remember because it means nothing. I sing GOG’s praises from the rooftops but nobody gets that “maybe I’ll actually take your advice and go there” glimmer in their eye until I explain that GOG is an acronym for a meaningful term.

      • Lycan says:

        If they’ve ever played a Heroes of Might and Magic game they’ll have an association for it. I know that’s what I thought of when I first heard the name.

        Though one of the top results on a Google search throws up a religious reference:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog

  9. CaspianRoach says:

    I don’t support their “one world one price” idea. There’s a reason why games in Russia cost less and I love Steam for understanding that.
    I’ll just won’t buy games from gog if this stays like this. They’re two if not more times cheaper in the shop 500m away from me. And on Steam. Why would I want to pay more?

    • Meneldil says:

      There’s also no reason why game should be between 10% and 50% more expensive in the euro zone than in the US and UK.

      And I think the good old GoG people care more about Europe and the euro zone than about Russia, which explains this price policy.

      As for the topic at hand, I’m all for it, but I’m afraid they will have a hard time rivalling with Steam. Yes, I know, Steam is a DRM, but it also has one laucher for all my game, chat, exchange, screenshot, and a dozen other great features. Not including the indecent sales.

      • Zwebbie says:

        I used to be bothered by regional pricing, until I found out that the reason Europeans pay more is because of the larger tax on the products. So that bit of extra money I pay goes to my government! If I have to pay a couple of extra euros on my games to get affordable health care and education, that’s fine by me.

    • Maldomel says:

      Are games that cheap in Russia?

      • CaspianRoach says:

        Yes they are, we have lower average salaries here and it’s a choice for publisher to sell the game at a lower price or to not sell it at all because nobody would buy it for the original price.

        • Maldomel says:

          Oh. I didn’t thought of it that way.

        • Ajh says:

          GOG.com seems like people that will listen to a reasonable informed plea. At the very least they’d take you seriously. Give them the numbers and explain your request in an email? They have a separate contact us button in support.

          I do not think they’re intention is to price themselves out of the Russian games market at all, but it may be that there’s nothing they can do with the way they’ve set their system up.

      • f_zul says:

        they are so cheap that now i can’t even buy those games from the publishers that don’t actually agreed with steam region policies. id for instance.

        • CaspianRoach says:

          Actually, it’s not that. It’s 1C refusing them to allow to sell the games they own the rights for in Russia on Steam. You can buy a disk with the Beth/id game and enter the Steam code and play it but you can’t buy it from the Steam store.
          For example, here http://gamazavr.ru/news/49/
          Russian regionlocked Skyrim with english language included for seven bucks.

          • f_zul says:

            so, there’s that. frustration anyway.

          • rps_snr says:

            So, what’s the catch in the case people outside of Russia want to buy from gamazavr.ru ? Skyrim for 5.5€? Crazy.

          • CaspianRoach says:

            You can’t. It’s regionlocked. You can only play it, install it and activate it with russian IP. Anything else just won’t let you play it and if you use VPN, you’re breaking Steam’s EULA and can be banned or have the game removed from your account.

          • JFS says:

            Which doesn’t mean that people don’t do it. It has become quite common for Steam key sellers to offer Russian versions for incredibly low prices. I haven’t bought any, but it is a tempting alternative for continental Europeans. And I’m not sure whether Steam will ever notice and/or care.

          • caddyB says:

            They will notice and take action if it costs them enough lost profits. They probably don’t bother right now because the gain would be too low to justify taking the PR hit and huge ( in this case unjustified ) nerd raging and outcry from people who get b& because of buying from Russia while living in Sweden or something.

    • sneetch says:

      Well, you’d be mad to spend more than you have to, but as you say you already have Steam to buy from so why would you care?

      You can’t please everyone but the one price policy is a definite plus for those of us living in the Euro zone, the UK and also Australians and New Zealanders who get screwed over price almost every time.

      • CaspianRoach says:

        Well, they’re bound to have exclusives and games that aren’t on Steam, so there’s that. This pricing scheme is cool for a lot of people but for us it’s just as if you were told that you have to buy games for australian prices now.

        • sneetch says:

          They always did have exclusives and games that aren’t on Steam (the old games) and their price policy hasn’t changed at all to my knowledge it’s always been like this so nothing has really changed here.

          If a retailer told me I’d have to buy games at Australian prices then I’d find someone else to buy from. I wouldn’t spend too much time worrying about the rare exclusive I might miss out on, considering all the money I’d be saving buying from my other store I’d be able to afford the rare exclusive I really wanted.

          • Wunce says:

            Having just checked the site, I noticed that the Witcher 2 costs $61.79 (I’m guessing USD) here in Australia, yet on steam it costs $54.99.

            I’m going out on a limb here and guessing that Witcher 2 doesn’t cost $61 in the US, so how can they say there is no region pricing?

            (EDIT: Gah! my first reply fail :( )

          • Xan says:

            61$? Where are you seeing that? Witcher 2 is 40$ for me and I’m from Europe.

            It was 60$+ for preorder but you also got Gothic 2 and 15$ of store credit to use if you were from EU. For US the preorder was just 50$ + Gothic 2 free.

          • Wunce says:

            Whoa strange, I looked again and now it says:
            “We’ll bill the equivalent in USD: $61.79
            Since the A$ price is almost $20 more than the price in USD, we’re giving you a $20 USD credit to spend on GOG.com.”

    • caddyB says:

      Funnily enough where I live I get the US price for games anyway from digital distributors.On shops it’s like twice as expensive though.

    • Enikuo says:

      They’ll probably fix that for Russia. I think their hearts are in the right place and they just made an oversight.

      • Godwhacker says:

        …but if they do that, they won’t be able to say that it’s one price for everyone any more, and that part of their sales pitch vanishes.

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      Carra says:

      For me it’s the other way around. As long as they remain their prices in dollars only I’ll buy from them.

      The alternative is changing the $ to € and paying 33% more for my games (steam, direct2drive, impulse, local shops,…).

    • Fumarole says:

      They’re two if not more times cheaper

      This is confusing wording. Do you mean they’re half the price?

    • Lycan says:

      And (for educational purposes only) – please, pray tell, what would that reason be ?

    • d32 says:

      Steam doesn’t understand a crap, when games in poor ol’ postcommunist eastern europe cost twice as much as in Russia.

  10. Squishpoke says:

    They will always be Good Old Games to me.

    Probably the only digital distribution service that I ended up loving more than Steam.

  11. RogB says:

    dont really care about the name, but i WILL be a bit sad if the focus on ‘old’ gets buried by the new releases.

    • Skabooga says:

      Yeah, considering I’m usually 3-5 years behind in the gaming scene, GOG was a great help for those games I’d missed by the time I got my act together. Here is to hoping they will continue to add to the catalog of old games as they expand into adding newer games.

  12. MuscleHorse says:

    To be fair, the ‘Good’ in their name was always somewhat dodgy. The 7th Guest anyone?

    This is a good thing. More competition pushes standards up, though I do like to have all of my games in one place so I may wait to see if Grimrock appears on Steam.

    • MadTinkerer says:

      Well, Notable Old Games doesn’t have the same alliterative punch. 7th Guest may have aged horribly, but it was worth resurrecting considering it was a huge milestone in FMV, CGI, and “multimedia” in games. Nowadays “multimedia” is so prevalent that it isn’t used to describe anything because it concerns pretty much everything.

      Hell, even Minecraft has an ending cutscene. And The Seventh Guest was the fancy Multimedia CD-ROM game that popularized the idea of cutscenes way back then.

      But yeah, as a game it’s not that great.

    • Lycan says:

      It’s listed on Steam already – but strangely no price yet…

  13. Dowr says:

    As long as they still remain focused on releasing old games with Windows 7 compatibly, then I see no issue with this change.

  14. Fadobo says:

    1) gog = good ! Looking forward to using it more.
    2) Mother-effin-Grimrock releases two weeks from now! Pre-Order, away!! :D

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    innokenti says:

    I think what’s good here is that this seems to be in a large part in response to a survey of their users. It’s a nice way to do things. I was initially lukewarm about it, but now I’ve got over a dozen titles including the Witcher 2. So that’s nice.

    Awesome to see them constantly develop and advance.

  16. mikmanner says:

    When I read DRM my brain tells me that UBI is written next to it. I’ve had to double take a couple of times on this article because of it,

  17. Mattressi says:

    Excellent, looks like this will be my new go-to place to buy games. Previously it was Steam, but due to Steam games having DRM (Steam), I only ever bought them when REALLY cheap. I think, for the first time in several years (ahem…ignoring my inability to control myself when I bought Skyrim) I’ll actually pay more than $10 for a game!

    I’m really looking forward to GOG becoming a top digital distributor with no DRM and (finally) no horrible, horrible 100% markup for Australians (think of the poor rip-off merchant brick and mortar retailers!). This is very good news, indeed.

  18. Khemm says:

    Yay for DRM-free Legend of Grimrock! By the way, buy The Whispered World if you can – the game is AMAZING, $14 is cheap considering its quality.
    Keep expanding GOG, just don’t forget about the classics. There’s still a huge number of them missing.

    • Prime says:

      *cough* Legacy of Kain series *cough*

      • Khemm says:

        Yep.
        And Close Combat.
        And Sid’s Gettysburg.
        And Warlords 1-3.
        And Soldiers At War.
        And Doom, Quake, Heretic, Hexen.
        And all LucasArts pre-1999 games.
        And Sub Culture…
        Wow, it’s going to be a looong list, isn’t it?

      • Alevice says:

        Let’s not forget some RTS and City Sim classics like:

        Age of Empires/Mythologies
        Rise Of Nations/Legends
        Zoo Tycoon

        Pharaoh
        Zeus
        Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom
        Startopia

  19. Post-Internet Syndrome says:

    No reason for this to be anything other than good news, but of course any change in direction from such a popular service is going to be watched with cautious eyes. Grimrock seems like an excellent party-starter, since it sort of caters to the same sort of audience gog already has. I’m considering taking that preorder myself, what with the 20% off and it not appearing on steam yet.

  20. Flint says:

    S’pose it’s nice and all but can’t say I find this particularly interesting. GOG will always be a great stop for old classics for me, if I want more modern games I’ve got plenty of places to shop from already.

  21. Oof says:

    What are the payment options? I never use credit, and my only other real option is PayPal…

    • sneetch says:

      You can use PayPal.

      • Oof says:

        Fantastic! Signing up now. To give you an idea of the monumental nature of my action: nothing has yet enticed me enough to get me to do online transactions. The bother has always put me off.
        I’m willing to do this for DRM-less GOG stuff!

  22. Damn You Socrates says:

    Too much time and effort being wasted on frivolities, not enough on getting Sid Meier’s Gettysburg on GOG.

  23. MadTinkerer says:

    So I’ll just continue to refer to it as GOG.com, as I have all along, then?

  24. netizensmith says:

    Based on the closure of the High Street shops yesterday GoG must now mean “Game Over Game”

  25. Alexrd says:

    Old games or not, as long as they keep selling DRM-free games (without Steamworks crap or other), I’ll be there.

  26. Prime says:

    “And, I’d argue, the loss of “Good” does somewhat reflect that their selection process has perhaps not been entirely focused on bringing back only classic games.”

    Are we sure they’ve “lost focus”, or have they, in their desire to obtain those classic titles, been forced to accept lesser titles into the bargains they’ve made with certain publishers? “Yes you can have Masters of Orion 1 & 2 but only if you accept 3 as well”, as a for instance?

  27. Kaje says:

    Caspian – can you buy Skyrim from that link if you’re in the UK!? And does it include the English language option, or only Russian!? It’d work out at like a fiver! :O

    • CaspianRoach says:

      No, it’s Russian region only. It includes english and 6 other languages but you have to have a russian IP to install, activate and play it. I believe the game was even removed from the accounts of people who’ve played it from non-russian IP.

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        Llewyn says:

        Although there’s presumably nothing to stop you creating an additional Steam account, using a Russia-based VPN endpoint to auth and install and then putting that Steam account offline. Theoretically you’d only need to go online again if you wanted to update.

        However I assume it will need a Russian CC or other payment method to actually purchase it?

        • CaspianRoach says:

          If you’re willing to go so far and break the legal laws anyway, how’s it any different from pirating it? I think it accepts all visas and mastercards and a bunch of russia-specific payment systems.

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            Llewyn says:

            Interesting question. I’m not entirely sure on the legality of it, though the morality would certainly be questionable at best. Aside from anything else it would simply be too much trouble in my opinion, but the OP seemed keen.

          • Kaje says:

            D’oh! Never mind :(

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    phlebas says:

    Gah! They’ve reset the game shelf – everything’s still there, but no longer nicely ordered the way I put them…

    • Prime says:

      Yeah, mine were listed by purchase date rather than by title. Weird. Easy fix for me, though. *click*

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        phlebas says:

        Mine were organised by genre – adventure, RPG, strategy, weird things like Giants and Sacrifice, free things I’m unlikely actually to play at the bottom. I can still find individual things I want, obviously, but my manual ordering is gone (and can’t be done automatically in a world where some people think Tomb Raider is an adventure game).

    • Alevice says:

      argh! why did they do that? my beautiful sorting!

  29. Teronfel says:

    I preordered Legend of Grimrock!!!:D

  30. mendel says:

    The Whispered World:
    * on Steam, 19.99€, Steam DRM presumably, possibly securom added
    * on gog.com, $14.99, no DRM
    * on Gamersgate 9.95€ / £7.95 , 5% blue coin rebate, Securom
    * on Amazon.de 9.99€, boxed
    * on ComputerbildSpiele 4/2012 coverdisk 5.50€, installs and plays offline
    * on Amazon.com $6.32 + Shipping

    Sooo… will you pay more to have no physical copy and no DRM?

    • Avish says:

      If they fix the windows 7 stuttering and replace the main character voice, I’m willing to buy it again..

    • Droniac says:

      In addition to the no DRM you also get the game’s soundtrack, artwork & a making of video. Quite a few people might find that package worth paying a (not even) 2 euro premium. As for the silly no physical copy thing: you can burn the GoG install files on a DVD and make your own physical copy… no DRM, remember?

    • neolith says:

      Damn, I bought the boxed version just this weekend. :( And yes, I am willing to pay more to get the game without DRM.

      Given a second thought – I might go and buy the GOG Version anyways and give the boxed version to someone not minding the DRM.

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    AndrewC says:

    Gog is Good.

  32. Rao Dao Zao says:

    Now, if they would just start selling physical discs with no DRM…

    • iniudan says:

      Download then burn to a disk, put your own disk sticker on it, print the manual and build your own card board box. Voila, a boxed copy of the game. =p

      That what nice about DRM free. Except I skip the whole part beyond burning the disk. =p

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    Colthor says:

    This makes me happy.

    Is there likely to be a Wot I Think of Grimrock before the 20% off pre-order offer runs out on the 10th?

  34. diebroken says:

    So GOG now stands for: Games, Only Games? (TM) (c) (Oh, ok gog team you can use that for free!)

    Interplay gog.com is made by gamers for gamers…

  35. Drinking with Skeletons says:

    At the risk of being pedantic, “good” and “classic” are two very different things. It seems that every old game on GOG has its defenders (or at least apologists) and the simple fact is that everyone’s got at least one game that they hold dear that isn’t especially amazing.

  36. Renfield says:

    Pre-ordered Grimrock, even though I’ve always been more of the top-down persuasion. Because sometimes, something *just deserves one’s support*. Support it is!

    • Drinking with Skeletons says:

      Same here. I’m not convinced that I’ll like it, but it does look kind of interesting, and for the asking price the devs deserve a fair shake. Plus, no DRM!

  37. Duckee says:

    Any “Wot I think” in the pipeline for Grimrock? Or have they not supplied review copies?

  38. catmorbid says:

    No DRM and non-regional pricing are big ones for me, so chances are, I’ll be using gog.com for newer products in the future. A great move in my opinion. The only thing that worries me a bit is how will patching be done if newer games are included. They’d probably have to make some sort of universal patcher integrated with their downloader, making it remind more of Steam. That or provide manual patching, which is kind of last year decade by now. I don’t mind a light-weight downloader but a bigger software like Steam would be bothersome…

    • Drinking with Skeletons says:

      I greatly appreciate the option of manual patches. Hell, even manual DLC! I can download at work, where I have a halfway decent connection, then run it at my leisure at home, saving vast amounts of time and headache.

  39. moms pubis says:

    I’m stoked about this. I love the way GOG does things with regard to DRM and digital extras and I’m excited to see their strategy applied to a wider range of games.

  40. Godwhacker says:

    I highly doubt they’ll get any properly new games beyond indies, given that it’s publishers who set the price of these things at release rather than the stores…

  41. FataMorganaPseudonym says:

    I have no problem with them selling newer stuff, as long as they don’t completely lose sight of what it was that got them where they are today: providing (legit) access to older games that you can’t get anywhere else (legitimately).

  42. RegisteredUser says:

    I will always fondly remember GoG as the people in cahoots with those pleasant fellows that sued people torrenting their game(s).

    It makes me sick to my stomach that the internet is full of praise for the “No DRM good guys”, chanting “These guys get it!! Huurrr!!!!” when the cold hard reality is that DRM or not, they employed the disgusting parasites that make their living out of sending out cease and desist letters to people semi-randomly and openly stood by this practice as not only viable, but recommendable to stave off the evil torrenting scourge.

    These are NOT your internet good guys, no matter how much all this PR chaff serves to try and obscure it(including the recent CD Project statement that all titles from here on out won’t have DRM because, duh, it was cracked within 2 hours of release and has no point to it).

    These people are not just AS bad as all the other pro-DRM publishers, they are worse than many for having actively engaged and pursued consumers through the legal system in a hugely disproportionate manner in my eyes.

    Selling games without DRM is all nice and dandy, but you don’t go and praise Jack the Ripper as a lovely fella because he puts a tuppence in the church tip jar every other Sunday to make up for all the other stunts he pulled, either.

    • kud13 says:

      GoG is a branch of CDP. doesn’t make them responsible for everything CDP does–employee is not responsible for actions of the employer.

      CDP sent out the letters. they were slammed for it, lost sales, put their reputation under serious strain.
      They’ve recanted, responding positively to community feedback. This is more than any other major publisher has done.

      DRM in TW2 wasn’t CDP’s idea–it was required by contract with NamcoBandai, who handled a portion of retail distribution worldwide. CDP was actually taken to court on breaking the contract by Banadai, once they patched out the DRM.

      No, they are not perfect. Yet, at the same time, they are one of the better publishers. GoG is not perfect–i’ve had a number of issues running some of the games i’ve purchased from them. At the same time, I’ve been able to legally and affordably obtain tons of games I really enjoyed in my childhood, so I have no issues with them overall.

      • RegisteredUser says:

        They never recanted their stance that suing private citizens over copyright issues with damages < $100 is a perfectly valid way of doing business and protecting your business.
        They just stopped. They _always_ stuck to it having been a valid, measured, legit and reasonable response on their part and _never_ regretted doing it.

        From their statement:
        "We were sorry to see that many gamers felt that our actions didn't respect the faith that they have put into CD Projekt RED. "

        That literally says: Sucks, we think we're right. Its too bad you don't agree. As has been pointed out in other threads, they don't say that they are sorry about what THEY did. They are sorry that YOU did not like it, which is a snide way of saying FU wrapped in cunning language.

        Next:

        "While we are confident that no one who legally owns one of our games has been required to compensate us for copyright infringement, we value our fans, our supporters, and our community too highly to take the chance that we might ever falsely accuse even one individual."

        Reads: We know we are right and doing the right thing by suing people. But since you people worry so much about even one little bit of collateral damage(and we're starting to see that sales might get impacted, and thus our bottom line, which in truth is the only thing we really care about), we're going to stop.

        NOT ONE WORD that suing people is wrong. Just that if it might maybe get one person who didn't do it, that'd be kind of a shame. Not because that would suck for the guy, but because word might get out and it might cost sales and people could get a bad opinion of them.

        F*ck CD Project and all the heavy handed threatening they stand for.

        You can get the source and full statement just by googling the quoted sections, I don't want this comment to go into review before posting.

    • FunkyBadger3 says:

      Because DRM on computer games is comparable to murdering prostitutes.

      • RegisteredUser says:

        Doing a good thing does not weigh up or make a bad thing go away; it just lends itself really well as a ruse / PR smoke screen.

        I could also have said Tobacco companies can sponsor Kindergartens etc pp. That doesn’t change that they sell cancerous death in small cartons.

  43. Miltrivd says:

    Can’t be more glad. I love Steam since I started using it, but the bigger my collection grows, the more afraid I am of losing it all for a random reason.

    If a game does not have multiplayer and I can have it without DRM, I always try to go directly to the developer, now I got GOG as well :D. Happy news!

  44. kud13 says:

    I’ve actually bought several games I own on Steam on GoG, to avoid having to wrestel with Steam’s off.ine mode on occasion.

    currently wishlisted is Deus Ex and both Thief games. Will be grabbing them next sale.

  45. FunkyBadger3 says:

    Going to be HUGE in North Wales.

    Well, if only they had electric-trickery etc.

  46. Shadram says:

    No regional price gouging? Bollocks. Witcher 2 is $60 AUD here in New Zealand on gog.com, which translates to $62.50 US. I’m guessing they’re not charging that much in the US.

    I’ll admit that seems to be an exception, though, for whatever reason, and their old games are all priced the same as elsewhere, and in US$. I’ve made many a happy purchase on their site in the past, and will continue to do so in future.

    EDIT: Oh, I just noted this bit: “Since the A$ price is almost $20 more than the price in USD, we’re giving you a $20 USD credit to spend on GOG.com.” A little confusing as to why they have a different price point, then. I’d much rather have $20, thanks. But it makes them better than any other digital distributor’s “here’s this new game, US$99 to you, chump!” policy, so I’ll forgive them.

  47. ThaneSolus says:

    i love GOG, no crapstastic DRM, very good design and accessibility, good games all over and good prices.