The Youngest Scroll – Skyrim: Dawnguard Out On PC Now

By Alec Meer on August 2nd, 2012 at 10:31 pm.

Bethesda are saying (at QuakeCon) that Dawnguard PC is out at last right now, but I can’t get it come up on Steam just yet. But oh well, I’m sure it’s either a caching thing or it’ll be there any moment – me, I’ve just got to postpostpost and then sleepsleepsleep. Here’s the official word though. I’m hearing it’s $20 for the long-awaited, Vampire-centric Skyrim add-on. Now I’m off to clean my teeth. Good luck, enjoy, and see you tomorrow.

Update: and here it is on Steam to buy now. $20/£14 to you, sir or madam. That is not cheap as DLC goes, and the reviews were mixed, but I’ve not played it yet so don’t look to me for answers. Unless they’re about cats or Transformers, anyway.

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  1. aDemandingPersona says:

    Waiting patiently….

  2. virtualmatrix258 says:

    I am so confused right now.

  3. bit_crusherrr says:

    I’m 12 and wat is this?

  4. Ironclad says:

    Considering the lukewarm reception this got on Xbox, is anyone really looking forward to this?

  5. fawker says:

    Has anyone read a review that thought it was good? I’ve heard it had many issues from many reviews. Not much content and a locked third person view if you are a vampire lord were the chief complaints that kept coming up.

    • Xardas Kane says:

      Actually all the reviews I read were almost universally positive about the content and complained about bugs and the pricing, not the actual quality of the DLC. To me it seems like a nice extension of the base game, but 20 bucks is a bit too steep, 15 would do it.

    • Phantoon says:

      The damning thing about those reviews, though, is the rags that printed endless circlejerking about how Skyrim was the second coming didn’t like this DLC.

      • Xardas Kane says:

        And who exactly didn’t like the DLC so much?

        • phylum sinter says:

          Here’s the obligatory slice of reviews from the 360 version via metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim—dawnguard

          If you refuse to click here’s the numbers: critic average 74, user average 6.9.

          • Xardas Kane says:

            Since when does a score of 74 mean nobody likes the DLC? It’s a positive score, genius.

          • Camelslayer says:

            74… tch. That’s pretty much what I gave Skyrim in the first place. Good game but doesn’t deserve the ludicrous amounts of praise it gets.

            Well, anyway. 74 never meant a game / expansion was bad. Honestly the DLC for Lords of Shadow was more of a rip-off.

        • frightlever says:

          I think you’re correct. Reviews have been largely positive. I think EG gave the 360 version 7 out of 10 – but they also said there was little actual new content (locations/dungeons), that it was buggy and pointedly that it was far from essential. A 7/10 with those provisos isn’t really encouraging, particularly for twenty bucks.

          I played enough Skyrim to tide me over until 2013 at least, so even on sale this has no appeal to me.

          EDIT: re the comment above – some of those metacritic user reviews are spot on. People remember when Shivering Isles was released with an entire new landmass and loads of quests for a similar amount of money.

          • Danarchist says:

            The irony of this expansion on PC is there are much more fleshed out (heh) expansions you can download for free from Nexus or even the steam workshop…for free. Moonpaths of elswyr (sp?) comes to mind right off. It has a city in the tree’s and giant cat mounts.
            I can see why an expansion was necessary for consoles, due to the lack of modding you are pretty much stuck with the base game. I mean thats still more play time than any 3 other games mushed together, but It would fizzle on a single playthrough.

            I bought the expansion last night and the only thing I noticed different so far is a “Master Vampire” appeared at night in whiterun and killed the smithing chick and the guy that walks around badmouthing the Grey Manes.

      • NathanH says:

        DLC usually seems to review lower than the original game. I guess we shouldn’t be too surprised, since DLC doesn’t have the “new feeling” advantage of a new game that you haven’t played before. Also I guess Bethesda DLC has to be really quite high quality to get good reviews: there is already plenty of game in Skyrim, so just adding 10 more hours of Skyrim-average quality is not particular valuable, whereas adding 10 more hours of average quality in a game with less content is more valuable. For Elder Scrolls games they need to work harder with DLC and expansions, even something pretty good like Bloodmoon was barely worth it; Shivering Isles has been their only expansion that I’ve thought was really impressive.

  6. aDemandingPersona says:

    And it’s up

  7. Vorphalack says:

    ‘Ow much?!

  8. Unaco says:

    Just showed for me. £13.99 in the UK. I’m not playing Skyrim just now (FONV from Steam sale, and I’ve promised myself I’m going to finish it), so I’ll wait a little and hear what people have to say about it.

    • ResonanceCascade says:

      Wait for a price drop. A Tribunal/Shimmering Isles-level expansion this is not.

    • neonordnance says:

      Fallout new vegas also happens to be a fantastic, fantastic game.

      You MUST mod it though. Newvegasnexus.com is your friend. If you only install one mod, make it Project Nevada. It really modernizes the core gameplay (sprint button, grenade button, night vision, custom overlays so if you’re wearing a helmet, you look through the visor, or your vision darkens if you’re wearing shades), and adds dozens of high quality items, but it’s so well-made that it merges seamlessly with vanilla.

      Skip the rebalance portion though. If you want a better, harder, more realistic and survival-oriented fallout, google “jesawyer.esp”

      It’s a rebalance mod by one of the original designers and it adds to the game immenseley.

      You should also track down a good ui mod. I use Darnified UI, although it requires a bit of extra installation.

      Finally, consider a graphics mod to bring the game up to its full potential. I highly recommend “Nevada Skies URWLified,” as it also adds dynamic sandstorms and rain. If you have a good computer, you can also use the “Aftermath” patch for the Skyrim version of the venerable ENBseries. Just drop it in the same folder as the executable, boot up, and enjoy beautiful graphics.

      • neonordnance says:

        Oh, and though I enjoyed it, Skyrim isn’t half as good as FNV. Bad writing and too shallow. Beautiful art design though, and great feel to the combat. I just wish it had a bit of depth, instead of just breadth.

        I’m probably going to wait for the GOTY, assuming the next dlc sucks less.

      • Yosharian says:

        I disagree, I played with most of the PN rebalance mod (apart from thekooky agility/action point changes) and it was quite good. JE Sawyer’s Rebalance mod has some horrific gameplay changes.

        • stupid_mcgee says:

          I don’t know if I’d say horrific, but definitely very brutal. It takes hardcore to a whole new level.

          neonordnance, that Project Nevada mod sounds pretty neat. I’ll have to check it out. Thanks! I have yet to beat FNV. I got to Vegas but they won’t let me in cos I don’t have enough money. :(

          I do plan on beating it, I’ve just been putting it off on my backburner until I can plow through all of GTA4 (I’m finishing up Ballad of Gay Tony right now) so I can uninstall the 14+ GB and be done with it.

      • Vorphalack says:

        Don’t forget the large address aware and stutter remover mods. Content overhauls are fine and all, but people like me will never play it with micro stutter or loading stutter.

  9. Rahlon says:

    £14!!! they can stick it up their…

  10. Desmolas says:

    Whuaah? £14? Sorry Bethesda, Skyrim is an amazing game and everything, but i’ll wait for your next 2 expansions in a GOTY-like compilation before i buy at £14.

  11. Thing says:

    Skyrim on Steam was never avaible for Poland, same with the Dawnguard DLC. While I could still get a box version of Skyrim, how the hell am I supposed to buy their new expansion?

    • Ringwraith says:

      Have a friendly person from outside Poland gift it you, or otherwise trade for it. It should still work that way, at least in theory. Someone will undoubtedly come and correct me in a minute.

      • Thing says:

        Noone should, because it would work this way. Still, the DLC is a bit overpriced and it requires some gimmicks to get it, so I’ll just pass. They will release a DLC pack / GOTYE eventually.

  12. chesh says:

    Twenty fucking dollars!? Guess I’m not going back to Skyrim just yet.

  13. Sc0r says:

    I’ll pass, even though I’m a huge fan of the TES series, thousands of hours in the last 3 games, collectors editions and all. Still, I always keep my games Lore friendly. This DLC isn’t lore friendly at all. I mean dude, you can transform into goddamn Kain.

    • august says:

      I’ve pretty much sopiled the whole thing and I have to say from what I read there’s a significant amount of awesome callbacks to earlier characters and settings if you’re into TES lore.

    • bdd458 says:

      How is it not Lore Friendly when they are the ones writing the lore 0_0

  14. Shadram says:

    And once again, Australia and New Zealand get screwed…

    http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2364/skyrimdgprice.png

    Why are our US dollars worth less than the US’s US dollars? Screw you Bethesda, think I’ll pass.

    • Shadram says:

      Also, their ‘$100 Quakecon Sale’…

      http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3581/quakeconsale.png

      $134 != $100, you fucktards. Sort it out.

      • Sayori says:

        as if it’s better in Europe XD

        • Shadram says:

          I dunno, it just seems to sting more when we’re paying in the same currency as the US, but charged more. Plus a bank fee for paying in foreign currency. It never bothered me much when I lived in the UK (I just blamed exchange rates) but to be charged $90-$100 (US) for new releases on steam is a fucking joke (excuse my language, but this is one of the few things that makes me nerdragey).

          • Sayori says:

            I know what do you mean. The weird part is when european companies do the same. Charge 50 euro and 50 USD. So we kinda are paying in “local currency” still more. WTF?!…
            And by the way I think paypal charges equally regardless your location.

          • neonordnance says:

            Having lived in the UK, I can say that it is, in fact, better in Europe. US has best prices though.

            Very sorry to see the Oceanians get screwed, although grassroots protest is brewing. There was some grumbling in the Aussie parliament too, iirc.

          • RogerMellie says:

            In Japan we pay in US dollars too. For some reason FPSs are daft money (CODBLOPS & CODMW3 still each $100, Spec Ops & MP3 each $70) but everything else seems the same as the US store. So basically, woohoo!!

          • aepervius says:

            It is supposedely due to PPP purchase price parity (wiki it if you wish). To make it simple the same gizmo might look less expansive in term of absolute price in the US, and cost more in AUS or EU if you change the currency back to US$, but taking into account local cost of life the price are supposedely similar. Although I udnerstand it for physical objects, in time of digital download with a server delivering goods that is quite bogus IMHO.

          • wyrdyr says:

            In South Africa we get full parity with US pricing, which must make this one of the very few areas where we don’t get the castoffs. Though retail copies are typically still cheaper at launch.

          • skittles says:

            @aepervius except that it is not PPP at all when you are paying the SAME currency. Steam charges AU, NZ and a bunch of others in US dollars, they just charge more. +$5, $10 even $50 in a few cases, there is no conversion involved, it is all still charged in US dollars.

    • AngoraFish says:

      Although I notice that Steam has dropped regional pricing on the main game, which is being offered to Aussies at $30 in today’s sale, same price as the US. Although interestingly, UK pricing is even better. Might be time to pick this one up. Nice not to be forced to purchase through US proxy servers for a change…

    • Lolmasaurus says:

      I dunno about you, but I use paypal on steam and get an approximately 1:1 ratio. I spent AU $70 on Borderlands 2, and it’s priced similarly in US Dollars on steam.

  15. El_Spartin says:

    Are the Crossbows only part of the DLC or do we get them in the game even if we don’t have it?

  16. Sayori says:

    20 euro?
    Oh, Bethesda, you are so funny. I can buy the game for less from Russia… 20 euro what the hell?!

  17. Zeewolf says:

    19,99€

    Hahah, they must be joking! Oh, they’re not? Well, whatever. I don’t need this.

  18. caddyB says:

    I’ll only buy it when it becomes mandatory for some of the greatest mods. It’s nowhere near as essential as Shivering Isles or Tribunal ( or Bloodmoon ). Hell, it’s even worse than Knights of the Nine, from what I read.

    • Xardas Kane says:

      I played a bit of it and it seems to be indeed closer to Knights of the Nine, but I definitely like it quite some more than that. Still, nothing too substantial and crucial, no doubt about that.

  19. fyro11 says:

    £14? I expect half a frikkin’ game in there then. Except this ain’t. Will only consider at £7 or less.

  20. dawnmane says:

    They really crossed a line with that price. Not buying.

  21. Crimsoneer says:

    God, how can these people not understand how PC pricing works?
    I pre-ordered Skyrim for £24. Most people probably paid £15 in a Steam sale. NOBODY IS PAYING THAT MUCH FOR A 7 HOUR QUEST.

    • caddyB says:

      And yet they will sell millions.

    • derbefrier says:

      where do you get 7 hours? everything i have read and heard from friends who got it on xbox was 15 – 20.

      which makes the price much easier to take, at least for me. plus the new zones, castles, weapons,Armour, crafting, monsters, 2 different quest lines, added skill points and moves for the vampire\werewolf. This doesn’t sound like a bad deal at all to me maybe not as big as past DLC but still not bad compared to other game’s DLC (CoD *cough*).

      • Crimsoneer says:

        The Eurogamer preview implied it was more along the lines of 10-13 ish, if I remember correctly, and that a lot of it was filler and fetch quests.

        They also said that the “good” side of the DLC was not well designed and not worth doing.

        So yeah. I’ll get it for under a tenner, probably.

    • RogerMellie says:

      Err……. enough people will pay $20 for this. Plenty won’t, and they’ll pick it up when it drops to $10 or whatever. Bethesda get to sell it at both price points and make more. We just have to wait is all.

      • jezcentral says:

        Although I usually hate people who post to just say “This”, you’ve basically said everything I wanted to about price points, waiting to buy (gasp!), and successful-sales-to-Other-People-who-are-not-the-poster.

        So…This.

        • phylum sinter says:

          I preferred the former method of speaking too, where you can spend more than four letters explaining that you agree.

          i don’t think anyone should feel compelled to buck to the “this” trend.

          • NathanH says:

            At the very least you can say “I agree”, which has the advantages of being a normal and not-at-all-annoying thing to say.

          • jezcentral says:

            At least “so this” has the same amount of letters as “I agree”.

        • sophof says:

          Which is all fine for new games, I’m just not sure it works for DLC. So many other games to play, the longer you wait, the harder it is to compete.

    • Archonsod says:

      I didn’t buy it for the quest. I bought it for the new hand to hand perks. Headbutting dragons to death never gets boring.

    • Leosaurus says:

      I certainly did. I was giddy with excitement. You know why? Everyone plays vanilla Skyrim their way, and my way turned out to be a Nord who was turned into a vampire during a random dungeon exploration. After (non spoilery) becoming a werewolf, he is now a dedicated vampire hunter who seeks out vampire dens and destroys them. I have thoroughly gotten into this character, playing with archery and a custom bow I enchanted named Sunburn (followed up by a more powerful bow with the flame enchantment called Sunrise) and a Blessed Blade of Stendarr enchanted with fear and named The Holy Terror of Stendarr, and am having a blast playing the quintessential vampire hunter. I bought the Dawnguard DLC because it is literally the next evolution in my character’s story and I am absolutely stoked about playing it from the Dawnguard perspective. I could care less about becoming a Vampire Lord, so maybe I’m just in a minority….but hell, I’m getting my money’s worth.

  22. Tusque D'Ivoire says:

    Y’know, I’m slightly considering just getting the elder scrolls pack for 55€. I have none of the Elder Scrolls games, only liked Bethesdas Fallout games. 55€ for three of the largest gameworlds around? that’s ok actually.

    Though if I had these 50, I’d probably much rather pre-order Dishonored.

    • Schaap says:

      I would recommend you just buy 3 and 4 and buy skyrim at a later sale. Morrowind alone will keep you occupied for 100+ hours for just 7 euro. Same for Oblivion. The collection I feel gives you less bang for your buck.

  23. felisc says:

    they can eat the chewy side of my pelvis at this price. But the discounted Morrowind and that new overhaul mod rps linked to yesterday sound delicious.

  24. Matt7895 says:

    It won’t sell in huge amounts because of the ridiculous price, and they’ll use that as an excuse to do more timed DLC in future… “We just don’t have as big a player base on the PC as we do on the Xbox.”

  25. Slinkyboy says:

    Too expensive especially while I’m enjoying the massive amounts of mods in my current play-through. So I don’t need it until it goes on sale. Hell yeah it’s good this DLC is out now though!

  26. fyro11 says:

    It’s topping the list in Steam’s ‘Top Sellers’ at time of writing.

    • Mattressi says:

      That doesn’t really say much. There was no ability to preorder it and you can’t buy it in store. It’s also a Steamworks game and most players will probably buy it on Steam. Since it’s the first day it’s been released, there’s bound to be enough sales to make it a top seller. Next on the list is Arma: CO, so it’s not like Dawnguard is doing well against other new releases – it’s merely beating a game that came out years ago. For all we know, it could be at the top for selling 50 thousand units or 2 million units. Definitely not enough information to tell whether it’s a dismal failure or great success.

  27. UncleLou says:

    So the timed exclusivity deal allowed them to say well in advance that the exclusivity only lasts one month, but they weren’t allowed to say when exactly they would release the PC version *during* that month and even pretty much denied the existence of a PC version 2 days ago, and then released it immediately when the exclusivity ran out? Should this make any sense to me whatsoever?

    • Tacroy says:

      At a guess, I would say the contract Bethsoft signed with Microsoft had some loosely worded term along the lines of “during the exclucivity period thou shalt not advertise thine product on competing platforms, for I am a jealous Ballmer” and Bethsoft’s lawyers, who apparently wear their pants for hats, didn’t notice until after money changed hands.

  28. pakoito says:

    BAHAHAHAHAH MORE FIRE PLEASE

  29. meepop says:

    Guys, remember that Dawnguard still adds quite a bit of content. Plus we still have all the mods that come from the Workshop :/. At least it’s not like the DLC for Civilization 5, Gods & Kings! That DLC, right? That DLC is $29.99. The game itself? Also $29.99. So thank Christ that Bethesda didn’t decide to charge $59.99 for the DLC…

    • Xardas Kane says:

      The game itself didn’t cost 30 bucks at launch. And the DLC not only adds content, it also delicately tweaks almost everything in the game in some way or another. I can not imagine myself playing CiV without Gods and Kings, it would feel incomplete. Meanwhile, Dawnguard is but a drop in the sea that is Skyrim.

      There’s a pretty big difference between the two – one is a proper expansion, the other is a DLC in the modern sense of the word. And while I think both are a wee bit on the expensive side, especially Dawnguard, they shouldn’t really be compared.

    • Shadram says:

      Civ 5 is US$70 here still on Steam. Or NZ$30 on disc.

  30. NightShift says:

    I hated Skyrim, pass.

  31. fish99 says:

    £14 for DLC? :o

    I’ll wait for the inevitable £2.99 steam sale.

  32. Yosharian says:

    It’s already been said but £14 is extremely expensive for what Dawnguard is, I was really looking forward to this but now I’m unsure.

  33. nimrod123 says:

    @25 USD i’m not getting it, will wait and see if it drops in the near future

  34. derella says:

    At first I was pretty frustrated with the timed exclusive thing… Now, I’m thankful for it because I don’t have to waste $20+ to find out that Dawnguard is a mediocre, bug-ridden, mess. THANKS XBOX PLAYERS!

  35. smokiespliff says:

    hooray for sloppy seconds!

  36. aepervius says:

    I used to be pissed off at 1 month exclusive on xbox or ps3. Now I am pretty damn happy and wish in future all my multiplateform game to have 1 month exclusive on console. So afterward I can gauge my friends reaction, and decide to pruchase or not. And judging by theirs, it is a miss for 20 euro.

  37. MurrayConfederacy says:

    I won’t be getting this, at least not for a while. It is bad.

  38. Deeon says:

    Maybe for 5€ and a free bagel.

  39. Burning Man says:

    Gamespot’s review said the DLC was not that great, because, well, bugs. It was the only voiced concern they had.

    Meh, bugs. I’ve played Morrowind, FO3, Oblivion, FONV and Skyrim I CAN HANDLE A FEW BUGS.

    20$ is ridiculous though.

  40. Starayo says:

    $25 for Australians.

    Hahahahahahahahahahhahahah. No.

  41. mrmalodor says:

    This DLC is “not available in my region”. Thanks for forcing me to pirate, Beth.

    • Mattressi says:

      Unfortunately for you, there’s no torrents available yet for the PC version of Dawnguard. However, you’re in luck if you also have an Xbox 360 – there are several Dawnguard torrents available for the piracy-less platform.

  42. Rhalle says:

    Metrics says romantic vampires are big right now.

  43. jha4ceb says:

    It’s expensive, but I’m surprised that people are so surprised about the price. This seems to be in line with (a) the Xbox pricing and (b) the pricing of Oblivion expansions. This is, after all, an expansion with as much content as some base games. But I admit that it is overpriced.

    • socrate says:

      DLC are nowhere near expansion sorry but the content is much MUCH smaller then in old expansion but sadly DLC replaced expansion in both quantity and quality of the said product

  44. Suits says:

    €20, no thank you! No doubt it will sell though.

  45. phylum sinter says:

    It was $20 on the 360 too. 1600 ms moon dollars is $20usd.

    Price isn’t a surprise at all.

  46. balazs.szemes says:

    Well, this is just grand.

    In Hungary – part of the EU and stuff – you can’t buy Skyrim on Steam, must order it on a disk, that is delivered by a courier, but you only really need the code from that wole package, the rest is garbage.

    However you still can’t view Skyrim or DLC-s in the Steam shop, because it’s regionally restricted, although you do have the game in your own library.

    Therefore as for now you cannot obtain legally Dawnguard in Hungary – and I assume in other Central European countries. Bethesda is stupid as hell, and Valve is playing along with it. I frankly don’t know what the people at Bethesda are thinking, and this reduces my confidence in Valve in a major way.

    Although I’m not a fan of EU bureaucrats, I really hope that this kind of behaviour gets hit with the same kind of attention that Microsoft got for preinstalled browser and media player.

    • Jerusahat says:

      It’s probably not region locked because they hate you. Here’s what John Carmack had to say about it a while back:

      Region locking on Steam is either because of a deal with a local retailer, or the market is too small to deal with tax collection. We have the same tax issues on the App store – many companies just don’t collect the tax, but Zenimax is scrupulous about it.

    • Cleeyah says:

      Do you have any friends in Europe who can buy the DLC through Steam? They should be able to gift it to you.

  47. DizzyrupTor says:

    I was looking forward to this but at the pricetag of £13.99 they can get stuffed. Thats a rip-off at that price, I would pay up to £8 but not 1p short of £14

    Surely they made enough £££ from sales of Skyrim to price the DLC better than this.

  48. MadMinstrel says:

    “An error was encountered while processing your request:

    This item is currently unavailable in your region”
    … I should have acquired my copy of Skyrim at the Bay…

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  50. LintMan says:

    I’m installing Skyrim/Dawnguard for the first time now. I know RPS did a mod guide way back at release, but I’d appreciate any advice about which are the must-have mods these days, since I’m sure a whole lot more have arrived since then.

    • DizzyrupTor says:

      @ Lintman

      There are so many good mods it’s impossible to give a list that everyone will like. Best thing to do is visit http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/top/ and see what mods you like the look of on there, then find them in the steam workshop and install them. Be sure to read everything as conflicts between mods can arrise.

      • LintMan says:

        Thanks for the link.

        Some questions:
        - Do you have to use steam workshop to install the mods? Does steam workshop support the SKSE stuff?

        - Can you recommend a good UI mod? (I haven’t played yet, but I’m certain I’ll want one.)

        - How necessary are all the assorted texture packs these days? I vaguely remember reading that Bethesda released or patched in some better texture at one point.

        Thanks!

        • Postposterous says:

          You don’t have to use Steam Workshop to install mods, and can just use the launcher to fiddle with things IIRC. But I would recommend the Nexus Mod Manager utility since it simplifies things and gives you access to a staggeringly huge amount of mods from the Skyrim Nexus. The SKSE is compatible with Steam Workshop though.

          As far as UI mods go, SkyUI is great! And if you’ve got a machine that can handle it it’s probably better to go with a fan-made texture pack instead of Bethesda’s since theirs only goes so far. But the default textures are all right, really.

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