Call Of Duty In SPAAAAAACE

By Jim Rossignol on September 10th, 2013 at 8:00 pm.


The Call Of Duty: Ghosts‘ – which I don’t think actually features any ghosts, sadly* – single-player trailer (below) has gone all a bit Shattered Horizon, by way of Gravity (and doesn’t that look awesome). Yes, it’s briefly in spa(aaaa)ce, and the astronauts have assault rifles. You knew they would. Don’t worry though, it’s soon back to men with sunglasses and helicopters. It’s Business As Usual, Dammnit.

The game is out on November 5th, just in time for Alec’s yearly CoD fix.

*Because it should be an art meta-game about being haunted by all the faceless dudes who have ever been shot in a CoD game. Now that would be something.

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  1. Ernesto25 says:

    heh i still remember the stupid space cutscene from mw2 the last cod game i played

    edit:wow the YouTube comments are depressing

    • Pliqu3011 says:

      I just checked the comment section because of your comment and wow, you’re right.

      “I wish the CoD Singleplayer and CoD Multiplayer could be sold separately so I wouldn’t have to pay for the shitty multiplayer that doesn’t change every year.

      Honestly the campaigns in CoD are great, they’re well made and enjoyable… but then there’s the multiplayer wich kills the franchise from being enjoyable.”
      …72 likes.
      …Ugh.

      “BF cancer noobs gave dislikes”
      And this comment got through the approval system… Oh the humanity!

      I’m going to sit in a corner now with a cup of tea to calm down I think.

      • gladius2metal says:

        I like cod single player campaigns too, but the last I played was mw2.
        my major complaint about cod games is: they cost way too much way too long.

        it is a bit like transformers: I know it’s just dull action, but sometimes I like dull action.

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          Henke says:

          Yup. Actually I’ve only played CoD2 and MW2 in the series, but I would love to check out the singleplayer campaigns in the Black Ops games and this new one if only the price of admission wouldn’t be so high. Doesn’t seem like the prices drop as much on old CoD titles as on other games.

        • jaguar skills says:

          Maybe you phrased that in a way you didn’t really mean but I have to pick you up on it, why would you want dull action when you can have non-dull action? Instead of Transformers, watch Pacific Rim. It’s still massive things hitting each other but crafted by a guy who gives a shit and has something approaching a soul.

          Granted, you’re less likely to run into someone doing both of those things in games, but Battlefield at least has a community that doesn’t make you want to shower every time you come into contact with it. And the game is only slightly more cerebral, so you don’t have to think that much.

          • gladius2metal says:

            well, I meant more “mindless”/”effortless”/etc. or “easy listening”… ,e.g., I like Heavy Metal, but sometimes I just listening to something like Roxette.

            Battlefield 3 single player campaign is BROKEN, I never had to check in a COD game on how to get past a certain aspect, but in bf3 I had to and the conclusion: order was: get up there use machine gun, only way to survive was: wait 1 min without machine gun.
            I don’t play the multiplayer (or rarely) for that I have WAR THUNDER!!! :)

      • Ernesto25 says:

        I’m paraphrasing but one was “games aren’t realistic they are fun fuckface”

        Wow i really want to buy the game now….

        • Apocalypse says:

          I am Activision Blizzard and I approve this message.

          The comment itself are not THAT depressing, but actually the freaking game company is approving such messages is indeed really, really depressing.

      • Geen says:

        Oh god
        Those comments
        The level of anger, fanaticism, and homophobia in them is through the goddamn roof
        Not to mention the spelling

        If you’ll excuse me I need to purchase a gun and one bullet.

        • Solidstate89 says:

          Only one? I’ll take a lot more than one bullet to do the job. There’s more one person behind all those horrible YT comments.

  2. InternetBatman says:

    Yikes. So the last one had the disgusting jingoism and anti-democratic sentiment, but this one has a faceless horde of spanish-speaking people invading the US? They really do manage to outdo theirselves with each new one.

    • elmo.dudd says:

      “faceless horde of spanish-speaking people” Maybe faceless if you don’t look at them? Also, not everyone south of the US speaks Spanish… Also, they only said that they were invaded via the southern border – that could mean they were invaded by countries in that region, or it could have been the entry point for other countries for a variety of reasons.

      • InternetBatman says:

        The language definitely has a romance tempo.

        • Einirr says:

          Yeah those baddies were speaking Spanish. I know because Spanish is my first language.

      • Ciaphas22 says:

        Just FYI, the only two major languages spoken south of the US (Latin America) are Spanish and Portuguese . There are some minor native languages that still exist and a few countries that speak English, Dutch and French but the wide majority is Spanish and Portuguese.

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          Carra says:

          No more Incan or other native languages? :(

          • ghost55 says:

            Actually, a surprising number of people in Ecuador and Peru speak a language called Qechua, which is basically what the Incas spoke.

          • Ciaphas22 says:

            They still exist it just isn’t widely spoken. Out of 385.5 million people in South America only about 13 million people speak the native languages still.

          • gamma says:

            Really, i’m so pleasently surprised by where this exchange is going. I mean it!

            And Ecuador is actually mentioned in the narration… i still have doubts if he means the latitude or the country.

          • Kubrick Stare Nun says:

            I, as a brazilian, think that a plot where south americans kick some aquiline ass must be a pretty good one. That might be just my call to play a CoD game… Unless, of course, that the imperialist south americans be displayed as “generic bad guys” cause that would spoil the hell out of it… goddamn my mouth.

            PS: Guarani is a official language in Paraguay.

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            Jackablade says:

            I think I’d like to play the game where modern United States gets invaded by the Inca. Or do a Civilisation crossover with CoD and have the Yanks under seige from Montezuma’s Aztecs.

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        cpt_freakout says:

        It says something like “from south of the equator”, so either they’re doing the whole South American socialist invasion thing or… or nothing, because why choose the south border and use the words “left us open for invasion”, as if the border was already hermetic? These games are getting worse and worse.

        • Dances to Podcasts says:

          Surely the South American lack of reverence for the regimes that the US so gracefully granted them means that they are corrupt commies itching to invade and force the freedom-loving and dashing denizens of the land of liberty to comply with their despicable doctrine of socialist savoir faire.

      • Geen says:

        See, you’re all forgetting that according to American media the only country south of us is Mexico.

        • Dozer says:

          Yeah. CoD:Ghosts is about the Australian-American War, the biggest war since the big one. It’s about time it was featured in a game. Those explosive boomerangs and kangaroos – they were specifically developed as traps for the CoD dogs.

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            Jackablade says:

            Oh that’d go well. We can attack them with our submarines that submerge and then never come back up.

          • Medicine says:

            I’d just like to applaud you for this lovely Chatterbox FM reference, a station so good I cheekily ripped it off my PC copy of GTAIII for personal listening.

            “They even wired up kangaroos with explosives – come hoppin in the camp – knock out ten guys“.

        • Solidstate89 says:

          Well…technically it’s the only country we share our Southern border with. But that’s not what you said, so I guess that doesn’t count.

  3. durruti says:

    “A man who truly loves his country doesn’t just give his live – he gives – his sons.”
    fucking disgusting sick fucks

    • Alexander says:

      Call of Duty – the defining warmongering event of our generation.

    • Bull0 says:

      Yeah, if you take that line out of the fictional context of the game’s story it is pretty bad. But it’s part of a work of fiction, so…

      • durruti says:

        so? please continue to educate me as you have already proven that i have taken the line out of context and didn’t consider it part of a fictional context and that fiction is not part of a bigger context with which tendencies it resonates.

        • Bull0 says:

          No, that’s all I’ve got, I don’t really know what else there is to say beyond that it’s a work of fiction.

          Did you ever see Starship Troopers? Those guys were fucking fascists. Disgusting!

          • gladius2metal says:

            as far as I know Starship Troopers was meant to be satirical, but well nearly nobody got the message as far as I remember.

          • Dances to Podcasts says:

            Starship Troopers wasn’t just satirical, it was damn near prophetic.

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            Vandelay says:

            Out of all of the centuries of fiction, you managed to pick Starship Troopers? “Those guys were fucking fascists.” Err… yeah. That was kind of the point (for film or novel, for different reasons).

          • Bull0 says:

            Yeah, I’m not sure why you guys don’t realise I’m using an absurd example to lampoon people who are outraged about this trailer

          • jaguar skills says:

            I can’t reply to your other reply so going to quote it here;

            “Yeah, I’m not sure why you guys don’t realise I’m using an absurd example to lampoon people who are outraged about this trailer”

            I got your point the first time around. However, it’s clear that with Paul Verhoven you can look at his previous work to determine what his point was with Starship Troopers. He has a history of blackly comic satire.

            Activision have made the same awful jingoistic, paranoid story about eight times now. The only thing that changes is how much they ratchet up the awful, paranoid jingoism with each installment and who the enemy is. You’d have to be very generous indeed to think that the next one is going to be 80’s era Robocop. 21st century remake of Robocop perhaps, with the edges dulled and the message surgically extracted.

          • Bull0 says:

            It’s a plot in which the protagonists’ way of life has been badly threatened / destroyed, so the jingoism on display is justified within that context. Much like in Starship Troopers. “I’m from Buenos Aires and I say kill ‘em all! ” That’s all I meant. You’re clouding the issue by bringing the question of authorial intent into it, but I agree that Starship Troopers also has the defense of being satire whereas this doesn’t. That wasn’t my point, though. You’re right, Call of Duty isn’t satire. Good spot.

          • SillyWizard says:

            Unless… http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/12/19/far-cry-3s-jeffrey-yohalem-on-racism-torture-and-satire/

            (In response to the CoD isn’t satire comment.)

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          darkChozo says:

          Hard to say if the actual game justifies it, but in this context it’s pretty standard action movie trailer-style exposition; end with a jarring statement, cut to randomly spliced snippets of videotaped testosterone. I wouldn’t exactly read it as advice to the public.

          • greg_ritter says:

            I think they just fucked up the delivery and wording. I wouldn’t make this phrase so gung-ho, I’d go for more tragic angle. I kinda get the sentiment, but yes, the delivery was rather jarring.

    • greg_ritter says:

      Hm, nice overreaction, mate.

    • John Mirra says:

      This reminds me about this scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPg-e4-GaKQ

    • MrTambourineMan says:

      My thoughts exactly, it made hair on back of my neck stand up & I don’t mean that in a good way.

    • rockman29 says:

      Yea… that’s kind of going over the deep end saying something like that… that’s so… so politically incorrect.. wow.

    • gamma says:

      “With truth* you shall deceive me”

      *posing as fiction

    • Synesthesia says:

      What a load of bullshit. This is truly fucked up. Now i really, really want to sabotage this. Warmongering fucks. Damn, this made me angry. Not to mention the south of the equator line. What the actual fuck!

      • A Bunny says:

        Relax,

        A video game made by a Mass Media manufacturer does not share the same ideals as your every day American. Yes, the games sell millions, but they do not reflect the ideals of the American Public.

  4. JavJav says:

    On one hand, as an aspiring game artist I can’t help but admire all the bling that goes in preproduction and production on these things. And I’m more thank amused at them actually using the rods from the gods concept as a mcguffin! But every time they try and make full scale invasion a central theme of this it’s just… do they even grasp how EXPENSIVE that is?

    Is it too much to ask for my gunwank to have a detailed geopolitical framework under it?

    • elmo.dudd says:

      “wank” kind of precludes “detailed … framework”.

    • Bull0 says:

      Trouble is they’ve sort of had their foot firmly on the accelerator since the first Modern Warfare, and the whole thing just feels silly now. We’re at the point where amurrka has to have been totalled for them to feel that they’ve achieved any kind of impact with the premise.

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        Gap Gen says:

        The first Modern Warfare had the US intervening pointlessly after militants overthrew a Middle Eastern leader called al-Assad. So they get props for that one, before their writers went insane.

    • nearly says:

      I’d start by asking them to have infantry combat in the contemporary setting not play out like it did in World War II. Because it does not.

  5. AtomicTroop says:

    Ghosts… in space? NASAghasts?

    • Lord_Mordja says:

      It is a crime that we don’t have a Dr. McNinja game yet.

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        liquidsoap89 says:

        I believe a mobile McNinja game was kickstarted a while ago. I don’t know if anything came of it, but I know it exists in some form.

  6. Drinking with Skeletons says:

    Anything can be improved with the addition of the supernatural.

    CoD with ghosts? Good.

    Crusader Kings II with ghosts? Better.

    XCOM with ghosts? BEST.*

    *I am 100% not being ironic or anything. I want a BPRD game so bad it hurts.

    • pierrot says:

      Crusader Kings 2 with ghosts would be genuinely awesome. i’m imagining Hamlet-style father/plot-victim coming back to reveal the plot of his brother who thought he’d got away with it

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      svendelmaus says:

      I was thinking about what you could do with the XCOM pattern that might move it into a different era, and thought it would be neat to have some sort occult investigation/elimination game set in the 1920s/1930s (since that makes transportation, communication and weaponry interestingly limited). Ideally, you’d use some random generation to make the background, so one game could have ancient Lemurians trying to subvert the Holy Vehm and take over the Germanies (with a scattering of random hauntings, werewolves etc. to deal with), while the next has Stoker-style vampires as the main baddies (with a side order of a Polish necromancer raising parts of the Golden Horde). How free a hand your investigators had with any given problem would obviously depend on where you were based, your relationship with the hot-spot’s government, and how under-the-radar you were flying.

      I mainly want a game where I can take a group of commandos with Flammenwerfer and launch a raid to sneakily burn down Naglfar, in order to delay Ragnarok. I’m not sure that would appeal to everyone. :)

      • Geen says:

        I’d play that so hard.

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        Tom De Roeck says:

        Just need to set it back a bit more and you have War Of The Worlds.

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          svendelmaus says:

          Yeah, I was a little wary of going too far back; I didn’t want to go full Victorian, and wasn’t sure how you’d handle WWI, since it would make it a lot harder to deploy agents onto the Continent. But being able to use the Orient Express, or having a fight in the old Stockholm telephone tower — it just seems like there’s plenty of potential fun to be had.

          And if you’ve never seen that telephone tower:

          http://bldgblog.blogspot.co.nz/2013/08/voices-loom.html

  7. Alexander says:

    Kill it with fire? No, nuke it from orbit.

  8. Diatribe says:

    Did they just stop caring about physics at all? You can’t fire a gun in space where there is no oxygen (so images of guys in space suits with guns are incredibly silly). Why not just give them the BFG4000 and go full silly.

    • Bull0 says:

      I think they must be those futuristic space guns the movie stars are always talking about

      • colw00t says:

        Guns don’t need oxygen to fire, they bring their own.

        Dealing with recoil and with overheating are the main obstacles to space machine-guns, but they will fire just fine.

        • Bull0 says:

          Hmm… I’m no expert, but it seems far-fetched

          • Bull0 says:

            Yep, you’re right, it checks out. I stand corrected. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2282/would-a-gun-work-in-space

          • cfcannon says:

            Sure the guns would work but good luck aiming without moving (like in the trailer) as each bullet shot pushes you in the opposite direction.

            On the kinetic darts thing, back when I attended college (early 90s) we had this guy on the light rail who we ran into every week or two who would spend every trip ranting about the “kinetic darts from space” that the evil men who rule the would would so send to destroy us all. I had so much fun exploring this issue with the man. Once we started talking he calmed down a lot although it did mean that he’d seek us out for further talks from then on.

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            Wisq says:

            The article mentions the possibility that the gun might get too cold to fire, but it’s equally possible that it would get too hot, either because of direct sun exposure or due to firing it. (Hot things have a difficult time cooling down in space.) So you might even end up with an exploding gun due to rounds cooking off.

          • Pan Vidla says:

            Still, things wouldn’t explode in space.

          • Panda Powered says:

            @Pan Vidla
            If ammunition works in space it can overheat and explode in space.

    • Blue Shark says:

      Same as shooting under water. Yet IIRC, that will be there too.

    • airmikee99 says:

      Most bullets contain their own oxidizing agent, so they require no oxygen from the environment in order to fire.

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      Gap Gen says:

      The point of CoD is not that it’s realistic, it’s that pre-teens think it looks realistic.

    • brundlefly says:

      I’d be more interested if they do spend some time on the physics and you can actually maneuver by firing your gun.

    • Radiant says:

      Stand with your back to mars “I’ll shoot us both to hell”

  9. redredredguy says:

    It’s nice to see an alternative allegory for immigration from the sout-AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH okay i’m gonna throw up now.

    Seriously, this is fucking disgusting.

  10. marsilainen says:

    Rods from god i see. The space part was pretty cool. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

  11. dagudman says:

    First, CoD ruins cods for everyone, then they ruin dogs, and now… SPAAAAAAAAAACE.

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      Gap Gen says:

      I’m waiting for the game based on the UK-Icelandic war over fishing. That’d make a great game.

      • phelix says:

        But it doesn’t feature ‘Murricah! How will they ever sell such a game?

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          Gap Gen says:

          Well everyone will have American accents anyway, I assume.

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          Surlywombat says:

          Well known fact Ben Affleck came over and flew spitfires during the cod war, don’t ya know history!?

  12. colw00t says:

    That dog is so dead.

  13. Bull0 says:

    That dog knocked out a helicopter. Impressed.

  14. aepervius says:

    Egad did these guy never hear of orbital mechanic ? A pylone (ETA verified it was actually tungsten) launched by a satellite is a real project studied at some point, but it would not go “vertically” toward a target , it would follow a parabolla. You would fire before the target is below you, following an orbit curve taking into account initial velocity of the pylone, and current velocity of the firing satellite. Ha. Whatever.

    • marsilainen says:

      I have played Kerbal Space Program too!

    • Blue Shark says:

      Dude, you are over-thinking is soo much, they just do not care. Also, like people that play cod would think about something like that. For example there was level in Prague in MW3. And man, google translator would do a better job than they did.

    • Dave L. says:

      Not to mention that the reason Project Thor was never actually developed was because A: it’s absurdly expensive to build and maintain, B: while it isn’t technically in violation of the Outer Space Treaty, it’s certainly skirting pretty damn close, and C: it’s only possible utility is as a first strike weapon, so building it is basically begging to be attacked.

    • aldo_14 says:

      Ah, but then it wouldn’t look like GI Joe 2, would it?

    • Dances to Podcasts says:

      Angry Cods In Space.

    • TechnicalBen says:

      Yeah, that’s a massive error, unless they show a fuel/rocket propulsion on those things. I’m willing to suspend disbelief for that. As it would at least be them “trying”.

      I nearly threw up in the scene in ST: Into Darkness when the Enterprise FELL from the MOON when the engines TURNED OFF.

      Sadly, even friends and family fail to see why that is wrong. The example of the ISS having no engines (well, propulsion) did not suffice. So I said it was akin to a film saying “the ship has sunken because our engines turned off”. IE, boats just float, and space ships in orbit STAY in orbit when you turn off the engines.

      • EPICTHEFAIL says:

        At least Trek has the excuse of throwing around so much subspace bullshit that the size of any given object`s gravity well is basically up to RNG. DoG, however, does not.
        I am generally angered by incorrect depictions of space travel and DoG is so guilty of that in the 30 seconds or so of orbit gameplay that we see it isn`t even funny. Shitty orbital shuttle painted gunmetal gray without a heat radiator in sight. Thor-shot that has enough power to outright ignore orbital mechanics but doesn`t tear itself apart and fly backwards out of orbit when firing. Astronauts with machineguns. Why they bother sending them up instead of just saving fuel and dumping explosives or nuke-pumped Xrasers into the offending killsats is beyond me.
        Sigh, another year of bad mainstream sci-fi it is then.

        • InnerPartisan says:

          Sigh, another year of bad mainstream sci-fi it is then

          Don’t despair yet. Have you seen Europa Report? If not, you definitely should – it’s pretty good. Hard SF all around.

  15. colw00t says:

    If Kerbal Space Progam has taught me nothing else, it has made sure that I know that burning straight towards the surface of a planet is a hideously inefficient way to de-orbit.

  16. jonahcutter says:

    I hope the bad guys win.

  17. brundlefly says:

    FIRST RESPONSE: Holy shit! Kinetic bombardment! So cool!

    SECOND RESPONSE: “Our new enemies advanced from south of the Equator…” Ugh. Really?

    • greg_ritter says:

      I don’t get this reaction. Russians as enemies? No problem. South Americans? BOOOOOOOO
      What gives?

      • Bull0 says:

        Any excuse for a bit of righteous indignation, it seems. It’s pretty addictive and gamers have been exposed to a crapload of it of late.

        • David Bliff says:

          Probably it’s because Russians don’t make up 15% of the population of the US and they’re not treated like second-class citizens. Demonizing Russians is tired and shitty but it’s at least marginally less offensive than “I always knew those Mexicans were out to destroy us!”

      • Smion says:

        Well, with Russia you could at least argue that it’s one of the closest powers to the US in terms of military. South America, though, not so much (at least in part thanks to cold war politics from the US).

        • greg_ritter says:

          We are talking about future here. Not any future, a videogame-universe future. Why not South America? It’s the best choice for attacking the US on land. Well, Canada is also nice.

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            Gap Gen says:

            Well, Mexico. Marching troops from Brazil to Texas would take some logistics to do.

        • Wurstwaffel says:

          They were talking about “an already crippled nation” in the trailer, so I guess the story continues on from the last CoDMW3 where the US had already been invaded. It’s not all that unrealistic for southern dictators to attack then I suppose.

      • jonahcutter says:

        Scapegoating south-of-our-border brown people is a go-to in the U.S. Our posturing table-pounders who rage over “securing our borders” and immigration. And there are strong racial overtones to it, no matter the denials of those who indulge in it.

        Scapegoating Russians doesn’t have the same racial overtones. It’s more an indication of the knee-jerk anti-communism that is still very strong in the lower-information segments of the U.S. today. Stupid yes. But not with the same sick thread of racism running through it.

      • brundlefly says:

        Russia is a global power and is an individual country. “South of the Equator” is, you know, half of the entire planet and home to a bunch of developing nations still feeling the impacts of colonialism.

        Saying “South of the Equator” and leaving it at that strikes me as an appeal to xenophobic fears about third world brown people rising up and invading. It’s especially screwy given our own habit of invading and bombing, and it appeals to a certain American type of persecution complex.

        • biggergun says:

          So, someone wants to make a game that appeals to xenophobic fears. A lot of good fiction does, H.P. Lovecraft comes to mind in particular. So? Are you saying that all fiction should be rosy social advertising?
          Don’t get me wrong, I think that whoever wrote that line is an idiot, but some people reacting to it managed to surpass him.

          • brundlefly says:

            Yeah, Lovecraft’s racism was pretty nasty and it actually makes his work more interesting because it reflects his fear of the unknown.

            But CoD is a modern work and reflects some pretty nasty things I see right now in the culture at large. Maybe in 70 years, with the distance of time, people will be able to look back at games from the 2010s and find the xenophobia interesting in the same way I find Lovecraft’s. Until then, I’m going to think it’s pretty problematic and will say so.

            Edit: And no, I don’t think all games should be required to be “rosy social advertising”. Nothing should be required to be anything. But that doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to criticize.

          • biggergun says:

            This is, I think, a matter of principle. Either we criticize all artists for their personal opinions (such opinions being irrelevant to the actual artistic quality of their work), or we allow them all a certain degree of liberty from the dominant ideological dogma (no matter how good and noble said dogma might seem to us as citizens).
            I must say I prefer the second option, because a line between freedom of speech and censorship (even unofficial censorship based on “upholding one’s good name”, or self-censorship) is extremely easy to cross. One might say that as a russian I’m a bit more qualified to make such conlusions than a first-worlder.

          • brundlefly says:

            “This is, I think, a matter of principle. Either we criticize all artists for their personal opinions (such opinions being irrelevant to the actual artistic quality of their work), or we allow them all a certain degree of liberty from the dominant ideological dogma (no matter how good and noble said dogma might seem to us as citizens).”

            I’m not criticizing the artist. I’m criticizing the art. I don’t agree with Clint Eastwood’s politics, but I love his work.

            “I must say I prefer the second option, because a line between freedom of speech and censorship (even unofficial censorship based on “upholding one’s good name”, or self-censorship) is extremely easy to cross”

            Isn’t it self-censorship if this line of thinking prevents me from criticizing a work?

            I would never demand that work conform to some specific ideology, but we should be free to think critically about art and that includes the ways that it intersects with contemporary politics. Approaching it with blinders on is its own kind of political position.

          • biggergun says:

            >I’m criticizing the art.

            You criticize it for it’s political component, do you not?

            > but we should be free to think critically about art and that includes the ways that it intersects with contemporary politics

            I agree. Too often, however, “thinking critically” turns into “bashing everything that is different.”
            As much as I dislike racists, I honestly believe that if a racist wants to create a rasict work of art, we should let him do so, and reply in art also, not just say “bah, rasim, bad, go away”, because before long the the definition of racism and the gravity of the accusation will erode, and everybody will suffer for it.

            We have a pretty strict law about hate speech here in Russia, for example. Do you know who gets convicted most often? Critics of the government and of the corrupt police, for “inciting hate against cops and government officials”.

            You might say that comparing russian civil rights situation to an unagruably trash videogame is somewhat comical, and you’d be right. But, again, this is a matter of principle, a part of a bigger issue, and, as I see it, a slippery slope for us as a culture.

            At the end of the day, it’s all about trying not to be too arbitary and not crying “wolf” too much. We simply have to be better than that.

          • brundlefly says:

            A slippery slope argument is rarely convincing to me, and I certainly will not let it affect how I engage with art. I will do that on a case by case basis and respond in different ways.

            I will say that I am generally against hate speech laws.

          • biggergun says:

            “Сase by case” turns into “However I want” pretty easily. In case of a single individual it is quite harmless, but in case of public opinion can have disastrous effects on freedom of speech and plurality.

            I don’t mean you personally, of course, and I certainly wasn’t aiming to change the way you engage with art – that is obviously beyond me.

            Bear with me; russians are still allergic to any and all attempts to impose ideological limits on art, however noble the ideology. Anita Sarkeesan, for example, always gave me creeps.

            Thank you for a civilized discussion and good night.

          • brundlefly says:

            Good night to you as well!

          • Apocalypse says:

            Just because we let racist do their racist art, does not mean we have to like it. Approve it or even endorse it. And in this case this is not even the question as the inherit racism is just use as mean to sell more games.

            “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.”, does not mean that we should not criticize others for what they say.

            Besides that I am absolutely certain that the racism in Call of Duty: Ghost is intentional done by people who are themselves not really racist. Racism of this kind sells nearly as good as sex. Our little ape brains work with frames, and using this frame of the southern threat at our borders should work very well for the target audience of a call of duty game.

            Take note in this context what Activision is approving as fitting comments on this video. Its hilarious sad.

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          darkChozo says:

          To be fair, the whole Russian invasion thing has its roots in xenophobic fears that 2nd world red people would invade. Significantly less topical at this point, and also has fewer racial and pseudo-colonial implications, but still worth considering.

          • biggergun says:

            To be fair, the fear was pretty justified in my opinion. I mean, I’m russian, and even I am afraid of the 2nd world red people I still see in the street sometimes; what they managed to turn this country into is truly lovecraftian. Socialism: not even once.
            But I digress. Let’s use this as an illustration of how things in fiction that seem inappropriate or even outrageous can be just a representation of a different viewpoint.

        • derbefrier says:

          of course its not totally unfounded.. do a little reading on the affect the mass exodus of illegal immigrants from mexico to US has had on our economic and social and justice systems in the border states and how any attempt to do something about it is met with uneducated claims exactly like yours. People like the people here don’t really understand it and would probably prefer to ignore it and just pass it off as good old american racism because its easier than confronting some very uncomfortable truths and it all but cements their current beliefs. Not that this has anything to do with a video game but your world view seems to be very skewed by decades of propaganda and and miss information.

          • brundlefly says:

            Today I learned that Mexico is south of the Equator.

          • SkittleDiddler says:

            Dude, nobody cares about the border states. Least of all the states above them.

            Now off to boss my brand new Mexican immigrant gardener around.

          • breaklock190 says:

            Thank you brundlefly for causing me to spit my mouthful of water onto my screen.

      • biggergun says:

        We’re talking about a culture that condemns toy soldiers and plastic pistols for making future murderers out of kids for god’s sake.
        All they need is an excuse to be offended.

        • identiti_crisis says:

          And yet, so far as I can tell, nobody has actually challenged your right to own a penis extension. But you brought it up anyway. ;)

          • biggergun says:

            I honestly fail to see what does my penis have to do with the subject of our discussion.

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            Gap Gen says:

            Wait, you never played with a dildo like it was a gun when you were a kid? Man you had a repressed upbringing.

          • identiti_crisis says:

            I guess I was at least two assumptions too deep. Your screen name and the mention of toy guns kinda screams gun debate, though. The rest was just poking fun. Also your screen name.

            I don’t know about this singular culture, though – sounds dangerous.

          • biggergun says:

            Oh, gun debate. Right.
            No, I’m out of the gun debate for the simple reason of living in a country with extremely restrictive gun laws. As for my screen name, it was supposed to be ironic.
            I just detest the tendency of the public opinion to take a good idea, in this case pacifism and multiculuralism, and push it to the limits of absurdity, where it provokes аn equally radical and absurd response from the opposition and the process replicates itself, creating an endless cycle of idiocy.

          • identiti_crisis says:

            Maybe it’s difficult to get people to pay attention if you’re not making a big deal of it. I am intimately familiar with this kind of phenomenon you describe, in a more mundane and totally inconsequential field of interest (that’s probably convenient for “experiment”…)

            It’s like people feel they need to act, so they turn to the biggest weapon they can find (sorry to keep bringing it up) in an attempt to cause the biggest effect and get things “done” sooner.

            I don’t know if that’s what’s happening here, but I suppose it doesn’t hurt to be aware of it (extremism comes in many forms!) Thanks.

    • aepervius says:

      They missed the shot. tehy should have made the enemy the US, attacking a country for reason X (they don#t like the president of that country, like panama, or they want revenge, or they want to do some other political BS) then the brave people of that country, using brick and brocks materials, wage a war of attrition against the vastly technologically superior US enemy, and finally, using PR and confronting the US folk against US war, get the US out.

      That would be frankly more realist and adapted to the past (how often the US attacked a country in the last 50 years ? How often they were attacked by standing army in their own country?) that *any* country attacking the US in any forseable future.

      As it is the continental US being attacked by anybody, is about as humoristic as a comand and conquer exagerated alternate history.

      • The Random One says:

        I’m hoping against hope that the new Homefront will be about that.

        “Hey guys, we’re pulling a Bioshock here. Homefront is not about crazy North Koreans invading the world, it’s about a recognizably Western society being attacked by a technologically superior, culturally incompatible enemy. So our game’s plot is: Future US go war crazy and invade fucking everyone. Defeat the red-and-blue menace!”

    • Moraven says:

      And Homefront had N Korea invading USA.

      Antarctica or Africa can be used in the next CoD.

      • Bull0 says:

        Penguins are easy enough to take down in ones and twos, but in groups, they become a deadly pack…

        • Geen says:

          Oh god fund it so hard I want my Nazi Penguins

        • Grape Flavor says:

          YES. If Call of Duty just embraced its ludicrousness like Saint’s Row did, and had the bad guys be a Antarctic penguin army, I would so buy that. Even if the gameplay were as stale as ever.

      • Grape Flavor says:

        I usually try to keep an open mind, but honestly I disliked Homefront from the start, not because it “offended” me, but because the developers’ very suggestion that we would accept such a unbelievably idiotic premise and take it seriously, was so deeply insulting to our intelligence.

        I mean, Tom Clancy games can be pretty silly sometimes, but even they have never dared to put out something as preposterous as a North Korean invasion of the United States.

        • Hmm-Hmm. says:

          If only they’d not taken it so seriously. And made a better game.

  18. Noise says:

    This looks awful. Shattered Horizon on the other was an amazing and under appreciated masterpiece.

    • chiablo says:

      All they have to do is release an Oculus Rift update and they’d be back in the game. Just include a barf bag with every purchase.

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    Colonel J says:

    That satellite – is that the same ODIN from the Archer TV show?

    Oh. Shame.

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      Gap Gen says:

      Organisation of Douchebags in… no, wait, I had something for this.

  20. ruaidhri.k says:

    i think the important thing to recognise is that bruce greenwood makes everything sound decent.

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    Gap Gen says:

    “And that day he became… AXE COP.”

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    Okami says:

    Hey, what’s Konrad doing in that trailer?

  23. buzzmong says:

    Oh cool, Activision and Infinity are making progess towards their animated war movie.

    Maybe the next release from them might actually be a full movie, rather than a number of action focused cut scenes strung together with some rather ropey FPS segments.

    • Shooop says:

      You reminded how much I wish the team who makes Blizzard’s CGI movies for their games would leave and make movies full time. They’re such a talented group.

  24. Wulfram says:

    Zombie Hugo Chavez strikes back!

    *Checks map* Damn, wrong hemisphere.

    Evo Morales?

  25. NotQuiteDeadYet says:

    Man, look at all those explosions. So I’m probably going to buy this then, cause I’m a mindless consumer console gamer peasant, or whatever.

    Seriously though, is anyone else going to buy this thing? Cause I can’t be the only one on this site that actually likes the campaign in COD games, right?

    • nearly says:

      This manages to make it look like an interesting game, and I felt the same way about Black Ops 2 trailers. Unfortunately, I know that it’s going to be the same old shit and that it’s not going to be anywhere near as interesting as the trailer makes it look.

    • Wurstwaffel says:

      The CoD games are all very competent at what they do for the most part. But for my tastes they tend to be a little overpriced for the length of the campaign. I did have around fifty hours of fun each with the multiplayer of MW2 and Black Ops, but I wasn’t interested in that since Battlefield 3 came along which did everything they did better and a lot more they couldn’t.

  26. David Bliff says:

    Didn’t they say this was going to be a bit more low-tech and guerrilla-oriented? Then they’re in space? Like, I know that they said players didn’t have all the same gadgets as before right as they showed the player fucking mind-melding with a dog, but I still thought maybe they would just have that gimmick alone and then have the rest of the game set in a more believable world. NOPE.

    • Geen says:

      It’s obviously low-tech SPACE GUERRILLAS! They have spaceships and shit but they still fight with pointy sticks and rusty AKs.

  27. Shooop says:

    Poor Alec.

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    liquidsoap89 says:

    I liked the bit with the blood splatter emitting from the astronaut in space.

    Good times. Good times…

  29. Burgmond says:

    This campaign/storyline is actually very interesting, if it weren’t a CoD game. Twer this Deus Ex or BioShock (don’t know why that popped up in my head), I might have been intrested in it and will probably get it. HOWEVER! Since it is CoD, we know what it will be already. 4-5 hrs of painstakingly restrictive gameplay stealing ideas from just about every other game in existence just to find out that the ending is a theory to explain the meaning of life. Then it will display a JFK quote about bravery. Fade to black. THE END. Roll Credits. CoD Ghosts explained.

  30. PhilLThomson says:

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  31. Battle Pope says:

    Now waiting for COD: Ghosts 2 – Dogs in Space!

    • bstard says:

      I’m surpriced the spinn-off Spaceface wasn’t mentioned as of yet.

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    lowprices says:

    “You never expect something you trust to turn against you.”

    And the BAFTA for best writing goes to…

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    Henke says:

    My favourite part is when the dog hijacks the helicopter.

  34. ohferfuxsake says:

    It’s not politically correct to call this a ludicrous, pathetic, hackneyed attempt to cash in on the delusional fantasies of the knucklewalking spawn of Teatard simpletons; it’s simply correct.

  35. roflmayotaco says:

    If truly loving your country is giving your life and your sons, does that mean Garp loves his country the most?

  36. Scumbag says:

    DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGS
    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNN
    SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    For the next one (and there will be a next one) You better be able to play as dogs in low gravity barkshooting each other, while attacking helicopters.
    Actually, you need to be dogs in space flying space helicopters… THE HELICOPTERS ARE GIANT DOG HEADS AND WHEN YOU CALL THEM IN THEY FLY ABOUT BITING THE ANKLES OF NON PATRIOTS!

    Call of Duty: Jingoistic dog head space helicopters.
    You do know that is most likely the Treyarch title next year.

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      Gap Gen says:

      Dogs in space actually aren’t that out of the ordinary. I mean, the dog food is poisoned, but sure, dogs have gone where no man has gone before, before.

      • Scumbag says:

        Well the Russians did send one up there first and…

        wait

        That’s it! The next CoD: Space dogs. ITS TIME TO TAKE BACK SPACE FROM THE RUSSIAN TERRORISTS!

  37. Dozer says:

    Look at my set-pieces. Look at my lovely set-pieces.

  38. Wurstwaffel says:

    Judging from the guns I’m guessing the space bit is actually playable and not just a cutscene. In that case they would inevitably have some zero-gravity mechanics in there. That would be neat.

    • InnerPartisan says:

      You really expect that? My money is on something like the “I NOW TURN ON ROTATION FOR ARTIFICIAL GRAVITY!”-line in Armageddon.

  39. Audiocide says:

    So I’m not supposed to play this game because it’s extremely popular. Got it.

  40. Ubernym says:

    Interestingly enough the satellite used to destroy the world in this new COD is a realistic thing that the US government investigated once upon a time. Just look up Kinetic Bombardment on Wikipedia. If you prefer not to be depressed by my warmongering countrymen search for pictures of kittens on any major search engine.

    Long story short – COD:Ghosts….”couldn’t give a shit.”

  41. Jupiah says:

    Wow, these Call of Duty games keep coming up with more and more ridiculous excuses for making America the scrappy underdog fighting to protect it’s homeland. Fighting the Russians was bad enough, but now the invaders are from “south of the equator”? They might as well copy Saints Row 4 and have aliens invade America in CoD MW 5, it would be about as believable of a plot as this.

    Seriously Activision World War 2 was a long time ago, I think you need to come to terms with the fact that America is one invading weaker nations for profit and revenge, and has been for quite a few decades. We aren’t the noble defenders of justice and freedom any more.