X-Ploration: X – Rebirth Scans The Stars

By Adam Smith on November 8th, 2013 at 10:00 am.

Space is so big that you could fit everything else inside it and still have room to spare. I know that because a Neil DeGrasse Tycoon image (edit: an upcoming management sim) that I found on an internet forum told me that it was so. Who needs research grants? Look at this, for instance. You wouldn’t learn that in a lab. I’m not sure if X Rebirth will simulate such wonders but it does have a lot of space to explore and the video below shows how long range scanners will help players to discover the exciting parts.

It’s been so long since I played an X game that I can’t remember which one it was. I do remember that it gave me no reason to feel as excited about Rebirth as I’m becoming. It’s looking damn fine.

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61 Comments »

  1. BattleXer says:

    I am X-cited! Can’t wait for next week.

    • BobbyDylan says:

      Indeed. I need to think of some TriX I can use to get more time off work.

      • Surlywombat says:

        I have no doubt you will be able to Xtricate yourself.

        • soldant says:

          I shall join you all in your irrational Xuberance.

          • Revengencer Alf says:

            I dare not Xtrapolate how much time I’m going to spend X-ploring all that space.

    • Aderthad says:

      Same here. I just hope it won’t suck.

    • Keyrock says:

      This will really Xpand my space sim collection.

    • Sharon says:

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    • Bahlof says:

      I think the game will looks very nice on Xtreme settings as well.

    • Sharlie Shaplin says:

      I am feeling Xtra giddy! I might have just eaten too much chocolate though.

  2. FullMetalMonkey says:

    I’m looking forward to X Rebirth however I hope they have handled the piloting a single ship thing well. I’m gonna miss the ability to disable ships, hop out into the void in my space suit and pilot it home to use to my devious deeds.

    Hopefully someone will make a mod to pilot more ships.

    I’m keeping cautiously optimistic about Rebirth.

    • Honsou says:

      Capturing ships was insanely fun. Especially some rarer ships you would chase for about an hour just hitting the shield. I completely forgot about this game mechanic till you bought it up, getting a sudden hit of nostalgia.

      • Syphus says:

        Well you can still own other ships and command them indirectly.

    • Cinek says:

      And another thing I hope for: That turret AI isn’t a garbage like it used to be in old X-series games.

    • Sic says:

      This is the only reason why I’m not screaming with excitement right now.

      Horrendous decision.

      • arccos says:

        I personally don’t think it’s a horrendous decision, they explained why it couldn’t be done and came up with a pretty ingenious compromise.

        The explanation was that they basically didn’t have the time or money to do everything they’ve done AND do what’s needed for piloting multiple ships: rebalancing how ships handle, model a cockpit view for every ship in the game, possibly needing to model the internal view of the ship in the process, etc. What would you have them take out to allow for piloting multiple ships? Personally I’d rather have what’s in the game and drop the multiple ships, since I pilot the same ship in X3 for 95% of the time anyways.

        But think about the compromise they came up with. You can directly pilot drones, which can be small enough to provide unique content getting to otherwise inaccessible areas. You can upgrade and modify your ship. And my personal favorite, if I understand it correctly, commanding from the bridge of a capital ship. Let me say that again: you can freaking COMMAND FROM THE BRIDGE OF A CAPITAL SHIP!!

        Imagine docking your customized fighter with your flagship, leading it into battle as the fleet admiral, and watching as the battle plays out. If something goes south, you hop in your fighter and take care of it personally as a force multiplier.

        God damn it sounds amazing! I think it’s an AWESOME idea!

        (Not to mention modders can and almost certainly will do the work to allow for piloting the other ships)

        As long as it has the depth of previous X games, I may not ever come back from this one. If they succeed, they will have created a new X game that allows for some actual different roles besides “combat pilot” or “transport pilot”.

        • vecordae says:

          Sorry to disappoint, mate, but there will be no bridge for you to command from. Based on what Egosoft has said (and clarified), you can enter a capital ship and walk around, but the entire inside is not modelled. You can talk to the captain via an intercom from the area you can actually walk about on. Industrious modders will likely fix that in a year or two.

          • arccos says:

            Nooo! Well, that’s a bummer. Why model the inside of a ship if you aren’t going to do the bridge? that’s the best part!

            Edit: I’m a bit confused. According to this: http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=306576 you can land and watch the ship maneuver from the “deck.” I guess they mean the flight deck?

          • vecordae says:

            “Deck” just means any bit of floor on a ship in naval jargon. Egosoft hasn’t said WHAT bit of floor it will be, but given other statements they’ve made, it’s likely either a hangar deck or, hopefully, a nicer observation deck. They said you’d be able to watch from within while the cap ship maneuvers, so it will be someplace with at least one window, open bay, or view screen linked to a camera outside.

    • FataMorganaPseudonym says:

      *facepalm*

      And there it is. The obligatory “wah, only one ship” comment that never fails to appear in threads about this game. All we need now is a “wah, no multiplayer” comment, and we’ll have run the whole, tedious, banal gamut.

      • dE says:

        Why so hostile? You’ve contributed absolutely nothing here, except a lame attempt to rile people up. For example you could have mentioned how Drone Control will essentially allow control over other ships quite similar to how X3 handled it and that the reason you can’t physically switch ships is because that’d require a truckload of handcrafted cockpits. Or how it shouldn’t be a problem to mod it in, at least with a third person camera instead of a cockpit view… But nope, you chose to be a hostile prick.

    • WrenBoy says:

      I dont really care at all about the single ship part. Ive been replaying the latest X games a bit recently and what is annoying to me is how they promise the world and then only deliver half.

      Take the above video for instance. Its clear from the way you are scavenging beside giant space stations that you are the only one scavenging in the entire X universe.

      Just like you will probably be the only one pirating in the entire universe despite the ubiquity of supposed pirates.

  3. notlimahc says:

    Neil DeGrasse Tycoon? Is that a new Chris Sawyer game?

    • phelix says:

      If only Chris Sawyer made a new game. The world needs a true HD remake of Transport Tycoon (NOT Locomotion, thank you very much).

      • Sic says:

        Can’t we all just play Transport Tycoon?

        It’s not like Sawyer is ever going to top it.

  4. Matchstick says:

    No comment in the article on this being another European release from Deep Silver featuring their repulsive PC pricing and distribution policies ?

    • scorcher24 says:

      Since when is 50€ repulsive? Go, pay your 120€ for COD and then come back.

      I just hope you not gonna argue with some 10€ Indie Title..

      • Matchstick says:

        It’s repulsive when they block you from buying the game from any seller that might undercut their RRP in Europe, while gamers from the rest of the world get the choice.

        This is the same policy from the same distributor that meant Saints Row 4 was more expensive at release on PC than either XB360 or PS4.

        Check out the US price for X-Rebirth on Green Man Gaming then explain why in Europe you can’t even buy it from there ?

        • scorcher24 says:

          Because Tri Synergy is handling the publishing in Americas, Deep Silver in Europe and Egosoft themselves on Steam.

          • Matchstick says:

            Indeed and my problem is most definitely with Deep Silver who I think have utter disregard for PC gamers.

        • Leonick says:

          The release for this game sure is a bit odd. If I want a retail box I can’t get it from any of the regular sites where I usually get my games. I could use Steam but their price is, as always, a bit higher than the retail price would be.

          As for the US price on GMG, yea, it’s lower, it always is. Steam does the same thing, if you want to see their US price for a game just take the € price and use a dollar sign instead, done. Prices vary a bit depending on region (as stupid as it is these days, specially with online distribution) and then there is VAT.

          There sure is quite a bit of stupidity going on here regarding how you can buy it, which is a shame, and it is a bit odd how it’ll cost me more than a high profile release like AC4 but it isn’t really over priced.

          EDIT: OK, just visited the Egosoft shop http://www.egosoft.com/shop/ where I found they have two Steam editions of the game. One for 49,99€ and one for 39,99€, both are identical except the cheap one can only be activated outside of Europe… That is some bullshit right there.

      • Kelron says:

        It is expensive at £40 in the UK. It’s not just Deep Silver though, it’s the same price direct from Egosoft, and new releases from other publishers seem to have gone up in price recently too.

        I do worry it will hurt their sales. Egosoft have typically been a niche developer selling to a small audience who know they’ll get a lot out of the game. Rebirth is aiming for wider appeal and seems to have a lot of potential new players interested, but the high price could put people off. Still, X3 has regularly been on Steam sales, Rebirth won’t be expensive forever.

  5. Maxheadroom says:

    Against all better judgement I went and pre ordered this. Would love to see some reviews though.

    Made the mistake of asking on the forums when we could expect reviews and got met with a wall of comments like “It just won’t happen because you need to put hundreds or more hours into it just to experience such a small percentage. ”

    Thats an actual reply I got, and i think it put me off more than anything. I dont want to spend 100s of hours deciding if I like it.

    • phelix says:

      I don’t think you need 100 hours to decide whether you like this game. I’d say you will only need 100 hours to form a nuanced judgement of all aspects, merits and flaws of X. As a result, reviews will be likely be among the lines of “I’d like to share some impressions” than “I dove in and experienced every bloody thing, here’s wot I judge”.

    • Zenicetus says:

      I can understand the point about complex strategy games (and this series has always included that, under the hood) taking a while to experience fully. On the other hand, the things that will make me buy the game or avoid it, will be easy to review:

      Does flying through space still feel like swimming through molasses, or is there an actual feeling of speed, this time around? Are the space sectors tiny, or big? Do enemy ships fight in interesting ways, or is the AI as brain-dead as the last X game? Less than an hour’s play should tell us that. I know there will also be the traditional big economic sim running as well, but without a decent space flying/fighting experience, I’m just not all that interested in the spreadsheet side of the game.

  6. Muzman says:

    I couldn’t connect what was happening on screen to that commentary at all.
    I couldn’t even say it looked nice because it’s in illegible 360p
    I know 1080 is a heavy upload, but come on guys. It’s not like you live in Australia or somewhere.

    • dE says:

      Yeh, but Egosoft is based in Germany. And Germany is still in the stone ages, when it comes to internet connections. In some regions, the highest you can get is ISDN. And the telecommunication services market it as LIGHTNING FAST.

      • Muzman says:

        Really? It can’t be as bad as Aus though. Surely. Surely! (we need the big western democracies to be miles better than us anyway. Not that the government will listen, but it gives the complaints some weight at least)

        • Apocalypse says:

          Germans start complain if they have to pay more than dollar per mbit, so yeah its really stone age. 100mbit cable is like 50 dollar per month and available about everywhere that can be called civilized area. ;-)

          The amazing thing is, no matter how fast your internet is, people will always complain that they are paying to much for to little about it. And I have to agree, I am getting not as bad deals as the poor germans, and still I pay far to much for far to little.

    • Jigowatt says:

      You might want to check again, because I just watched it in 1080p.

    • Syphus says:

      I’m not sure what you’re missing here, but I just watched it in 1080p.

      • Muzman says:

        No, I get nothing. 360p only. Maybe I need one of those tricks that forces youtube to read from a particular server. Or the address line code to force 1080.

        • Cinek says:

          Works in 1080p just fine.
          You don’t know where to look for it? Google changed it to some obscure stupid way now – you need to click the cog, than pick from a drop-down, and than scroll movie to some other moment in order to re-load it in a full resolution.

          • Muzman says:

            I know exactly where to look for it. It isn’t there.
            Probably the mirroring is taking its sweet time.
            I’m surprised because usually by the time the 300+ views are calculated the high reses are done too. But not everything goes the same all the time I suppose.

          • JiminyJickers says:

            If you are using Internet Explorer 10 then it is a bit borked. You need to open it in Youtube and refresh to get all the quality options, doesn’t happen all the time but has happened to me a few times now.

    • SuicideKing says:

      Yeah i couldn’t really get what he was doing till half the video was through.

      I’m still not sure i see the point of what he was doing. Seemed a bit lame.

      But i do see the option for 1080p.

  7. Mittens89 says:

    Please be good, please be good, please be good!

  8. derbefrier says:

    Looks really good but I will wait for some reviews or some let’s play videos before buying. I bounced off the last X game I tried pretty quickly. I love the idea of these games on paper I just hope the execution of it this time is a little easier to get into.

    • cpmartins says:

      The entire concept behind Rebirth has been the streamlining of the user experience, so on that front you’re set. Only problem I foresee with the game is bugs on release. Wait for a few reviews on the stability of code, then decide.

  9. Gap Gen says:

    Looks like someone doesn’t understand how depression works! (I mean, I get that that isn’t the point, but this is kinda the point).

    Also, personal significance is relative. The bakery next door is more important to me than the whole of the Virgo cluster. It’s not a matter of perspective; I mean, space junk is nice (and it even pays my bills), but in the end a vast ball of hydrogen ions doesn’t care what happens to it, whereas a meatsack sitting on a self-gravitating ball of rock does.

    • stblr says:

      Came here to post exactly this. The cause of depression is rarely, if ever, an “unjustifiably large ego.” Very small-minded thing to come from someone who is often heralded as a Big Thinker. It’s the equivalent of telling someone with clinical depression to just get over it.

      Anyway, X Rebirth is pre-ordered, I couldn’t follow what exactly was happening in the video in relation to the gentleman’s words, but it sure looked pretty and spacey and explorey.

    • WrenBoy says:

      I know nothing about the man but he clearly wasnt talking about depression in general.

  10. SuicideKing says:

    The dude sounded like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

  11. wodin says:

    Sounds like Boris Becker..didn’t know he was making games these days.

    Also..The face on the “I love to mix business with pleasure” was pretty scary..

  12. CookPassBabtridge says:

    I feel kind of underwhelmed by the long range scanner really. I had images of poring over Star Trek-like galactic map rooms in my head, with the ability to pick a planet, up a bit and to the left, and just go there: Oooh look its Rigel 7. Whats that unidentified power signal in that quadrant?

    What they showed here seems like a cross between Half Life’s overheating Tau Cannon and a metal detector, for finding what seems similar to the “secret artifacts” in Far Cry 3. Maybe the real experience of it will be a bit richer, but whats presented here seems a bit after-thoughty. I sort of feel like I am just going to come across endless alien sewage and tampon pods hidden in asteroid fields.

  13. Erithtotl says:

    I’m correct in remembering that the X series has a long history of buggy releases right?

    Anything to assure me we aren’t in for it again this time? Have they had a more extensive beta period than in the past, for example?

  14. Kubrick Stare Nun says:

    Containers full of goodies simply drifting around in the middle of random asteroid fields. Why?

    • arccos says:

      The same reason they didn’t make a space game devoid of people in space: to make it more interesting.