S.EXE: Ute by Lea Schönfelder (NSFW)

By Cara Ellison on January 17th, 2014 at 9:00 pm.

Lady of many mans
S.EXE is a new monthly column written by Cara Ellison which explores sex and relationship games. The column is published on the third Friday of every month and, like Cara herself, is NSFW.

Rhythm, thrills and bodies are all things games are good at, so where’s the goods my friends, readers, players? Where’s the junk all up inside that trunk? Wherefore does the mainstream ignore our fiery loins and blustering hearts, and refuse to lay claim to our feelings and intimacy? Why do mainstream games render our lives as placid jogs through sanitised, picket-fenced streets, and never as joyful sprints through neon jungles lit up with the expression of our needs and our far-reaching hunger for pleasure?

I do not know the answer, denizens of netclick cities, but this column desires to devour the games that address the sexy parts with thought and consideration and perhaps a little experience. Are You Experienced? Well it’s okay if you’re not because I’m here. My name is Cara. You may remember me from such puns as Highway To The Bonerzone and ‘booty hall‘. This is my new monthly column: S.EXE. Let’s start with Lea Schönfelder’s Ute. THIS WON’T BE SAFE FOR WORK YOU KNOW. LEAVE YOUR COAT AT THE DOOR.

Grandma could I just go to the gym today instead

Lea Schönfelder is nominated in the Nuovo IGF category this year along with Peter Lu for Perfect Woman, a game in development for Xbox One, PC and Mac, but Lea’s been experimenting with transmedia for an age. The German game designer’s game Ulitsa Dimitrova was under discussion by the Russian Parliament to be banned due to its bleak portrayal of a Russian street child’s life, and she received an Honourable Mention in the IGF Student Showcase in 2011 for the free browser game we’re about to get close with: Ute.

Ute’s a woman whose grandmother sends her on a mission: to fuck as many men as she can before she gets married. Ute can grab a guy (spacebar to seduce), take him to an out-of-the-way corner, and then have outrageous sex with him (more points are awarded if you press the arrow keys in a designated rhythm). But Ute has to climax before another man walks by: if he catches some driveby dogging, his heart and the heart of the man you are sleeping with will be broken, and you will never get to sleep with either again, or more importantly, Ute will never get to marry them. The idea is to rack up as many points by sleeping with as many of the eleven men as you can. It’s actually kind of difficult to do this as there’s no damn privacy, and men keep walking in on me before I’ve even screamed my victory (and in the game). Incidentally, Ute’s orgasm noise is the cutest thing I’ve ever heard.

My favourite thing about Ute is her face after being interrupted clearly showing no shame whatsoever

Like real sex the timing can be tricky and the rhythms certainly differ man to man (I like to think of it as compatibility) and it’s interesting to note that you can learn to judge how much time you have and how to… make it end faster… with a little practice. I used to think when playing that having sex with the same man more than once gave you less points, but I’m not sure that’s true? This might just be me doing some sort of confirmation bias. Perhaps you can debate the scoring system in the comments. GO FORTH AND PREY UPON THE FINE MEN OF UTE.

This guy is adorable

There’s a huge variety of men out there (in the game): there’s the mysterious detective man whose sexual style is to windmill his junk around in the dark, Che Guevara whose sexual proclivities extend to some sort of cigarplay, and Martin Lebowski, President of the Employers’ Association. (I seem to recall he likes being whipped.) The yoga man has some extraordinary poses and for all intents and purposes is scarily bendy. There is also a small boy of 14 amongst the selection of men. But one of the problems this game posits is that once you press spacebar you only then see who it is you have committed to sleeping with. Ute has no idea, for example, that this person is a 14 year old boy until she’s already said she’d get on top of him and throw a bucket of water on him after each thrust. It’s initially shocking but it gets the point across (pun unintended). The more I think about this game, the more layers I think it has.

All of the sex animations are enjoyably outlandish, an obvious ‘collection’ reward for scoring each man. It’s completely great that Ute visibly seems to enjoy all the sex acts – something big budget games are particularly guilty of portraying is that women are somewhat dead-eyed wet fish in bed, beings who merely moan slightly at the delivery of dudeflesh in the manner of Shirley Manson getting the wrong latte. In this game, there’s quite an equal amount of nakedness on both male and female characters, and they’re both usually having a flipping riotous time. This is refreshing considering we usually only get a Geralt-eye-view of women, depriving penis lovers of any joy – and shame on the callous games industry I say.

This is not to say Ute is particularly ‘graphic’: it is just line drawings of wangs. I had to send Graham an email subject line WANGS with the text “Graham, the screenshots for this game I am sending you have a lot of line-drawn wangs in them. What is the RPS policy on wangs.” It turns out RPS has a clear policy on wangs. This policy is Kieron Gillen-written. KG thought dongs were 1) very funny and 2) that they warranted lists.

Che Guevara is a dead revolutionary who enjoys sex with German women and cigars

When you’ve broken all the men’s hearts but one, you are left to marry that last man, which ends the game. Your grandmother congratulates you on however many men you managed to sleep with before you were swiped off the market. And you get a nice little snap of Ute with her new husband, although she usually looks more pissed off than happy about the ceremony. The Drug Dealer guy is always wolf whistling at some other woman in the wedding photo. But I did make her happy by marrying the pizza guy once.

I married the pizza guy, here he is, and we got a pizza wedding cake. This is actually Jenn Frank's dream wedding

The structure of the game has a lot to say about the sexual constraints heterosexual women find themselves in. Society’s attitudes towards sex and monogamy creates a currency of us; the marriage market for men and women that Jane Austen described still seems pertinent in that light. Women might feel as if they’re ‘spoiled’ if they admit to a prospective love interest that they have been with other men, just as Ute breaks two men’s hearts every time she is discovered indulging her desires. And they do fulfil her desires: the game’s win state is when Ute climaxes, not when the man does so. Ute chooses whomever she’d like to sleep with, but ultimately, her life is still a market in which men seem to regard her sexual choices as so disgusting or distasteful as to avoid her for the rest of the game. Unless it really is that they are all in love with her and become broken hearted (which, though she is lovely, I wonder if it’s more of a comment on possessiveness than much else). Ignorance of Ute’s true self is the only state in which men seem to want to be in a long term relationship with her. And that relationship is often not even her choice; it’s just the last man… standing.

A good number methinks

Ute’s a charming main character wearing dainty heels, her strolls accompanied by calming lounge music, and I often feel as if men disturbing her sexytimes really is an invasion of privacy and space. The jarring noise of your discovery by another man is frustrating, there is a real twinge in the feeling of being judged. But for the men too, there is cutting social commentary: they are judged solely on their profession. Their job title appears as soon as you elect to sleep with them, and even their sexual mores are connected to what it is that they do. It’s interesting to see the inversion of what usually happens in games: in this, men have no sexual agency. They are collectibles. Ute uses what seems like their inability to say no or their taking whatever they can get for her own gratification, even though she too is eventually being punished for it.

It’s rewardingly complex as a narrative told through mechanics. There is no dialogue apart from the small intro and outro with the grandmother. Games that have something to say, not only thematically, but throughout the actual structure of how it works can effectively critique a social system. This game conveys Ute’s agency and desire for fun whilst also indicating there are still constraints on her ‘freedoms’ or sexual liberation. It takes a game system we so often see without consequences – say, again, The Witcher and his prostitutes – and makes it far more interesting by imposing limits and outcomes on the play. It’s also more interesting to play than just paying a busty 3D lady to trigger a cutscene in which she dramatically and floridly drapes herself on Geralt’s cock. This isn’t to say I wouldn’t too, but I’d be a little more enthusiastic about it, and I’d probably assault the cameraman and forcibly point the camera at Geralt instead.

It’s possible to game the system, and marry the librarian like I always wanted, but it takes practice, a somewhat ruthless heartbreaking attitude, and the ability to be able to ignore the only person in the room you’re attracted to.

So hunky.

These videogames are very gritty and realistic these days.

Many thanks to game designer Jana Reinhardt for pointing me towards Ute. You can play Ute here, and check out Lea Schönfelder’s upcoming game Perfect Woman here. See you in a month! Cara XOXO

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    X_kot says:

    It is good to see this game promote casual sex in vertical and horizontal alleyways…unlike those filthy ones that encourage using diagonals. FOR SHAME!

    But seriously, yay for a sex-positive game that also addresses the psychological minefield that is dating.

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    Big Murray says:

    An actual person being NSFW implies psychopathy.

    • Reginald XVII Archduke of Butts says:

      Boy, you sound fun.

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      RobF says:

      I dunno about that, I’m fairly NSFW and not a psycho. I just don’t like wearing pants.

      • Interference says:

        You say “not safe for work”, I read “unemployed”.

    • Deano2099 says:

      I reckon if she can prove she’s not you now have to take her into work with you for the day.

    • Jac says:

      A lot of successful business people are psychopaths/sociopaths. I’m actually borderline and perfectly safe!

      • gwathdring says:

        Well, typically the idea is that a “high-functioning” sociopath/psychopath doesn’t necessarily feel bound to the rules in the same sort of way as your typical Johnny Citizen does, but is nonetheless perfectly capable of following them if they want to or for atypical reasons–similar logic applies with all other elements of sociopathy such as empathic capacity.

        Since it is defined so much in terms of social transgression and social interaction, being safe for work as someone with borderline sociopathic tendencies goes somewhat with the territory.

        That said, you point is taken in that most people who are not safe for work are such less out of sociopathy and more out of incompetence or non-sociopathic carelessness

    • sharkh20 says:

      Said person could have hooks for arms and would therefor be a danger to those around him/her.

    • frightlever says:

      That’s pretty profound. Suddenly I’m looking at a bunch of people I work with and thinking NSFW because they’re either psychopaths or just really careless.

  2. Tjee says:

    Those have got to be the ugliest female breasts in video game history.

    Ah well.
    *Unzips pants*

    • Janek says:

      Almost seems like it deserves a “staring eyes” tag in that third pic.

    • plsgodontvisitheforums_ says:

      I know right, they promise Naughty Sex From Woman and this is what we get!?

      • The Random One says:

        No one promised Naughty Sex from Good Looking Women. The Better Business Bureau is powerless.

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    X_kot says:

    It is good to see this game promote casual sex in vertical and horizontal alleyways…unlike those filthy ones that encourage using diagonals. FOR SHAME!

    But seriously, yay for a sex-positive game that also addresses the psychological minefield that is dating.

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      Gap Gen says:

      What do you do if you are tested for sex and come back sex positive? Is there a treatment?

    • Vinraith says:

      I’m not really sure I’d call a game about deceitful anonymous hookups (in one case with an underage kid) “sex positive,” regardless of the protagonist’s gender.

      • The Random One says:

        Why not? It’s a game that shows sex as something desirable and fun. You may say that the position it takes up on the issue is gross or vacuous or disgusting, and I might agree with you, but the game would still be sex-positive.

        • Vinraith says:

          See, I tend to think portraying sex as vacuous and disgusting is actually sex-negative. Maybe it’s just me.

          • The Random One says:

            I’m not saying that- ugh, OK. Look, I agree with you, kind of. I think casual sex is disgusting and I would not want to do it with anyone I wasn’t absolutely in love it. So I think the relationships displayed on the game – regardless of the level of abstraction you believe it has – are absolutely disgusting. But I also believe that a sex-positive attitude is an attitute that fosters positive experiences about sex. Lots of people like casual sex. Cara likes casual sex. This game’s creator likes casual sex. This is an opinion that I disagree with, but an opinion that I believe, when expressed, helps people being happier with their sex lives. I have no wish on imposing my personal views on anyone else, just like I would not like someone else to tell me that I’m unhappy because I’m not getting laid with hotties at the hottie bar. So I don’t think this game is saying sex is vacuous or disgusting. I think it’s saying sex is great, and even though the way it’s saying that is, in my opinion, vacuous and disgusting, it’s still reaching a conclusion I can meet eye to eye.

          • Vinraith says:

            There’s casual sex, and then there’s compulsively jumping every anonymous stranger you see, while trying to hide your activities from everyone else you’re having sex with. Then again, I gather you think this is abstracted in some way, whereas I’m simply taking it at face value. The actual, shown behavior is definitely not “positive” in any sense, leastwise the statutory rape.

            I think I understand where you’re coming from, but I suppose my point is that any sex-positive intent is (for me, at least) lost in the vocabulary of the message.

    • ostropol says:

      I’m not sure why this game is considered “sex-positive.” Simply due to the reversal of traditional gender roles? I don’t think a game that rewards the player for sleeping with as many partners as possible before marriage adds any value to the discussion, regardless of gender stereotypes. A game about larry doing it would be typical and gross but Ute is atypical and liberated?

      • Ergates_Antius says:

        10 seconds on google: Sex positivity is “an attitude towards human sexuality that regards all consensual sexual activities as fundamentally healthy and pleasurable, and encourages sexual pleasure and experimentation”

        It’s sex-positive because it doesn’t portray sex as something dirty and/or shameful.

        • ostropol says:

          Again, I’m not sure how we are construing sex with 14 year olds as “consensual” or maximizing number of anonymous partners in alleys as “healthy.”

          I don’t think a game where your goal was to have sex with a 14 year old girl in an alley would fit in with the notions of consent or healthy practice.

          • gwathdring says:

            I don’t know where this is made, but it should be noted that consent laws vary wildly from place to place and that legal consent and ethical consent, while for practical purposes identical, are somewhat more convoluted in principle. It’s worth being concerned about, I suppose, but some food for thought in any case.

          • Ergates_Antius says:

            I was responding to:
            “I’m not sure why this game is considered “sex-positive.” Simply due to the reversal of traditional gender roles? I don’t think a game that rewards the player for sleeping with as many partners as possible before marriage adds any value to the discussion, regardless of gender stereotypes”
            You didn’t mention the statutary rape of the 14 yr old (or “unlawful sexual intercourse” in the UK) in your original criticism. I’d agree that the inclusion of this is more than a little disturbing, but doesn’t necessarily prevent the game, as a whole, being “sex positive”

          • Sedatives says:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Germany

            Age of consent in Germany looks to be 14, so at least in the creator’s home country, it’s not necessarily statutory rape.

            Of course, like everyone else, I know that the age of consent in my own country (16) is the one true age, so I’m just as disgusted as anyone else here. Just thought I’d ruin a good discussion with some fact.

      • mukuste says:

        > A game about larry doing it would be typical and gross but Ute is atypical and liberated?

        Actually, yes, it is pretty novel in that regard, there is no denying that.

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    psepho says:

    This is a great idea for a column! Although I will be blaming it on RPS when my spouse finds me playing Cara’s recommendations and gets the wrong idea…

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    Headlight says:

    Was funny until I ran into the 14 year old boy. No thanks.

    • Ergates_Antius says:

      To be fair, the little guy looks about 10 whilst walking around….

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      Lacero says:

      I’m pretty sure possessing drawings of a 14 year old having sex is a criminal offence in the UK. I’m not going anywhere near this game.

      • Ich Will says:

        As with everything in UK law, context is key.

      • HadToLogin says:

        Wouldn’t be so sure about that.

        Photos for sure. 3d models/pictures, maybe. 2d pictures, especially fictitious might not be a problem – there’s lots of artists making hentai pictures and living off it – and not only in Japan.

      • sophof says:

        That doesn’t make any sense, who is the victim in that ‘crime’? Or is it illegal to even be a paedophile in the UK? And are you truly dependent on the whims of a jury?
        Man, that disturbs me to no end…

        /disclaimer because that is usually necessary with things like this: I’m not saying paedophilia is awesome.

    • JFS says:

      I guess it’s only child porn if men make it. Made by women, it magically becomes art!

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        RobF says:

        Sometimes I really wonder what makes people type things onto the internet. This is really one of those times.

      • plugmonkey says:

        I guess it’s only child porn if it involves a child…

  6. Jody Macgregor says:

    My first thought was “wow, a game involving sex I could actually recommend to a woman” and my second thought was “that’s a depressing first thing to think.” Both thoughts were soundtracked by ‘Highway To The Bonerzone’ though, so that’s all right.

  7. Frosty says:

    Why oh why do the submissive men always have to be large business men? I might be a chunky monkey but I’m certainly totally and utterly businessless. It’s actually bizarrely upsetting that the stereotype of the submissive male is one who is the man who spends all day chasing the money and crushing the poor etc and then releases all that guilt with a good couple of spanks.

    The joy of being a submissive (for me at least) is the power exchange! Not punishment for some bloody sin.

    I dunno. Being a submissive man is weird isn’t it?

    • gwathdring says:

      Depends on what you mean by weird. Atypical? Probably but I don’t have stats on it. Counter to archetypal masculine principles? It also depends on exactly what we mean by submissive/dominant. Everyone has a slightly different idea of what that means within their relationship and the presence of entire sexual sub cultures that use the terms differently makes things a bit more explicitly unclear on top of the normal linguistic weirdness that comes with territory this varied and personal.

      The trouble with talking about weirdness and sexual “perversion” is that very few people hang out at the extremes. Defining a normal sex life is doubly difficult because people don’t talk about sex terribly openly for the most part and also because there’s a fair amount of variety in preference and experience and one’s expectations of normalcy often modulate their urges. Consider someone who has submissive tendencies but hasn’t really explored them–if that person enters a relationship with someone who expects some degree of sexual dominance, they might not explore their tendencies until both are extremely comfortable with each other and/or in an experimental frame. If you were to conduct a sexual behavior survey, then, you would have to be aware that submissive men, being counter to the “normal” sexual mode of males in our prototype society, are more likely to ignore their tendencies or postpone them in order to live up to the expectations both of their partners and their society.

      At least in surveys. What’s further complicating about sex is that it’s private (usually). This means people can transgress expectation while still maintaining a dutiful public adherence to expected form. It further means that people don’t necessarily consider it your business when you ask, even if you’re doing an anonymous sexual survey. Indeed, as has been mentioned recently, there’s some evidence that anonymity makes people more susceptible to peer-group pressures because their identity has been temporarily stripped from them and their assumption of anonymity is more like putting on the same specific mask everyone else in the group is wearing than it is putting on a colorful yet concealing disguise of your own making; blending in, as it were, makes one susceptible to pressure.

      So … it’s probably weird? But, as I hope you’re already inclined to suggest, not in a bad way and figuring out exactly how weird it is can be so difficult that the distinction of it as weird is of limited usefulness.

  8. Deano2099 says:

    Are you aware of Onyx and 4Play? They’re basically sexy Monopoly for couples (or Swingers), a bit like that Tease board game Quinns and Leigh reviewed, but by virtue of being digital are a lot more customizable to your own preferences/limits/experience. Which don’t even have to be revealed to the other player, and the game will only offer stuff you’re both interested in.

  9. crinkles esq. says:

    Well, I could’ve done without the bitter anti-male tendencies of this article (“the males might be broken-hearted…nah they’re probably just possessive”), but this game seems like a really interesting social critique. And in general, I welcome your sex-positive column here, Cara!

    • Cooper says:

      Anti-male tendencies?
      Did you read a different article to me?

    • Sleepymatt says:

      Those poor men, all they wanted to do was FLOWERS TO WOMANS.

      Sadface :(.

  10. Fonzcorp says:

    Great column. I read this article at work :/

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    lowprices says:

    How could anyone be satisfied with only once a month? More, I say!

  12. DanMan says:

    Cara is NSFW because she keeps tripping over the wires and spills coffee across the keyboards.

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      Gap Gen says:

      Soup everywhere.

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        RedViv says:

        In an alternate universe, Cara is travelling the world with game devs, but now paid by the vastly rich RPS Hive Central. In a motorhome, its walls lined with row upon row of Tesco’s Finest pea soup.

  13. harr0p says:

    As far as video games and sex are concerned they really haven’t come along way from the days of the Amiga and the porn clips controlled by the waggling of the joystick (no pun intended).
    I thought things had changed when mass effect introduced there none interactive scene. Unfortunately from that point every other entry in the series made me feel like shatner in the 60′s going from green skinned girl to blue skinned girl or which ever orientation you desired.

    Nothing has changed here either. There’s obviously bigger questions to be asked about sex in video games or the objectification of female characters but these certainly don’t do it.
    Personally I would say push your mouse or pad aside put your coat on and go to the pub, interact with the opposite or same sex whatever floats your boat and hopefully you may get your end away or if your lucky start a meaningful relationship.

    This is the one area of the games industry that is still so far behind other media ie TV/movies. That its still sat in a corner giggling at tits on page 3.
    The article is all good and well but I think instead of pointing out these release it should be calling into question why the games Industry can’t get to grips with the subject.

    And I didn’t even want to bring up the subject of Larry and his shell suits. :/

    • Faxanadu says:

      • Rapelay, you get to stalk people and rape them!

      • Hentai games from Illusion!

      • Various MMO’s, find real people and cyber with them! Even the animations are there!

      • Text based porn games, TONS of content for Oh Gods so many tastes!

      • Skyrim, high quality graphics, have sex with everyone and everyTHING, such fun!

      I think sex in videogames has come a VERY long way. But maybe I’m not reading this right – I don’t even understand what the column is supposed to be about. Sex AND relationships? …like, dating sims or something? Or like, videogames that just have an awkwardly placed hardcore porn scene somewhere in the plot? What exactly are we talking about?

      • harr0p says:

        I can agree there’s a lot of games that have sex in them and sure the graphics have come along way.
        The way in which the subject has been handled since someone thought about sticking it into a game not some much.

        It’s either done to an extreme for example you mentioned a game where you can stalk and rape women (is that the objective of the whole game!!!) or to the other end of the spectrum where its just childish titalation.

        But I suppose its what your trying to get across to the player if anything at all. This debate could easily spiral into are video games art catagory.

        I just don’t think its been done in any meaningful way as of yet. And I have no idea now what the article was trying to achieve now if anything it got me thinking about how poorly the subject matter has been addressed in video games and how it will probably continue.

        • Faxanadu says:

          (is that the objective of the whole game!!!)

          No, no, good heavens, no! After you rape the women you get to enslave them and teach them to be better sex slaves!

          ANYWAY, (:D) I do think there is one GLARING hole in sex and videogames – the IMMENSE LACK of WESTERN PORNOGRAPHIC GAMES. Japs are doing fine on this front, there’s a million hentai games and then there’s illusion.

          But here in the west? *chirp chirp chirp* *wind blowing* NOTHING. And why? I DON’T KNOW. I’m 100% certain a high quality adult 3D game would sell enough to make it very much profitable. But there just ain’t none. This is something very puzzling. Unless ofc the explanation is the boring old “it’s still too embarrassing to do this stuff”.

          • harr0p says:

            That game just sounds extreme. I think the lack sex or out and out western sex video games lies at the feet of the US/UK. Despite having massive porn markets. Sex in consumable format its still something that is cast to the fringes of our society’s when compared to mainland Europe and the rest of the world which is very liberated in most parts plus the threat of backlash off the media.

  14. smeaa mario says:

    But why does everyone have to offend the memory of Che Guevara on every possible occasion? Isn’t it enough that capitalism has already nicely capitalized on the man with t-shirts and stuff?

    • Reginald XVII Archduke of Butts says:

      Couldn’t have happened to a nicer fellow.

    • harr0p says:

      I blame rage against the machine.

    • tossrStu says:

      The alt-text for that screenshot confuses me; either it’s in dire need of an oxford comma or Che just really, really, really liked cigars.

      • pepperfez says:

        If you look closely at the image, I think you’ll realize the alt text is correct.

    • Dave Tosser says:

      Yeah, Che Guevara is perfectly capable of defaming his own memory! He doesn’t need you! Let the man ruin his own name with all his murder! Capitalist scum trying to do it for him…

      • Lone Gunman says:

        When you crush a people they will turn to people like him.

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    RedViv says:

    I am still chuckling at the line about dead-eyed fishy Hollywood women. Much of that because I had to imagine my own bedtime like that, just two snapping-gasping individuals, growing paler and paler each second.
    Club NSFW Persons, I will join you.

  16. Ergates_Antius says:

    I’ve not actually managed to complete a single “session” yet. I’m obviously just not very good at having sex with men in alleys.

  17. Sam250 says:

    Man, I keep giving Rock Paper Shotgun another chance. I hear about some cool games from this site so I’m willing to look past some rubbish, but when this pseudo-intellectual tripe is the first thing I see, what do you expect me to do?

    I’d love to hear a smart, interesting analysis of sex in games, but the over-analysis of some nobody’s random doodle game is not it. Look at this nonsense:

    “But for the men too, there is cutting social commentary” YEAH, some pointless flash game is really the medium to deliver “cutting social commentary”, christ. Anybody feel educated, enlightened or challenged in social issues by playing this game? Read a newspaper some time.

    “It’s rewardingly complex as a narrative told through mechanics.” HA. Which part of the game was complex, the mechanics or the narrative? Do you even play games? Read books?

    You’re welcome to replace this article with my straightforward, no-bullshit (and therefore far more intelligent) analysis:

    “This hideous and simple flash game involves sexually assertive women and atypical sex acts. That’s novel.”

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      X_kot says:

      Snobbish about graphics and programming language? Check. Namechecks the dev? Check. Ad hominem attacks? Check. Patronizing, arrogant tone? Check.

      7/10, would front page on Destructoid

      • Sam250 says:

        “Snobbish about graphics and programming language?”

        Oh God, to enjoy nice graphics and not enjoy ugly graphics makes your a snob! To criticize anything must make you a snob! I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at the absurdity of this statement!

        What, the representation of women in media isn’t good enough for you? Only play games that aren’t blatantly sexist? Social-issues-snob.

        What, this raw chicken isn’t good enough for you? Only eat food that that won’t give you salmonella? Food-snob.

        You must be a a snob-snob ie. anyone who likes something to be good isn’t a good enough person for you, which is on one hand painfully obnoxious and, on the other, disgustingly stupid.

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          AndrewC says:

          Everyone leave this commenter alone. He’s far too good for the likes of us.

          • Sam250 says:

            You said it, bro.

          • SillyWizard says:

            While is delivery is pretty aggressive, it’s hard (for me) not to agree with the sentiment.

            Why do my games sites keep having to get try-hard socially conscious on me? I quit Kotaku years ago for this reason. The PA Report was the next (brief) stop. When I realized that the only articles I cared for on their site were copy/pasted from here, here I came.

            I do appreciate that RPS’s articles about these things are much more moderate than those that convinced me to stop checking the aforementioned sites.

            Still: our hobby here, as it exists, isn’t really a great place for gender-identity/ -inequlity/ -whatever issues. Lots of people are totally in to talking about that stuff, and there are places specifically designed to facilitate those conversations.

            Of course, “If you don’t want to read it, don’t click on the article.” Yeah, yeah. But with a catchy title like “S.EXE,” who could refuse?

            It’s especially bothersome when these things come from so far out of left field. It’s not like Ute is such a deep and compelling construct that Cara was simply unable to stop herself from writing a glowing critique. It’s that clearly the site is looking for gender-issues-relevant, PC-games related fodder. Because that’s what the cool kids are doing. Yippee skip.

            You want to write a socially responsible article on gender issues? How about The Banner Saga’s acknowledgement of the ill-will the townspeople have for attempting to enlist women into the army? (By the end of the game, my unit with the highest kill-count by far was female.)

            How about we look at ways that games deal with gender issues in subtle ways? In clearly positive ways? (See my comment below about what I think of the “sex positive” nature of this game.) In ways that facilitate conversation/understanding/appreciation?

            While some of it is that I’d prefer not to have actual real-life issues polluting my escapist hobby, it’s far more that if you’re going to do it, I’d like there to be a level of gravitas and academia for which frankly people don’t typically go to a video game blog (or any other kind of blog, possibly excluding xkcd).

          • The Random One says:

            It’s not like Ute is such a deep and compelling construct that Cara was simply unable to stop herself from writing a glowing critique. It’s that clearly the site is looking for gender-issues-relevant, PC-games related fodder. Because that’s what the cool kids are doing. Yippee skip.

            BZZT. No. Stop. Right there. You are wrong. You are simply wrong.

            Maybe Ute is not a deep a compelling construct, (that’s arguable) but to think that Cara tried to write this piece just because she felt writing about a sex thing would endear her to some sort of avant-guard crowd is disingineous at best. She wrote this article because she thought making this analysis of this sort of game would be interesting, and so she made an interesting analyisis of the game (or tried to – maybe it didn’t hold your attention, and that’s fine). If you follow Cara’s work here and elsewhere and on the twitters and facebooks you’ll know she is fascinated with sex and sexuality and gender constructs and thus she is likely to think of how these things are approached in a game even when playing something that hints at them, let alone something that has it as a major themes.

            This column is not in any way different from a column about how playing Doom and then Shen Megame Tensei and then Assassin’s Creed II makes the author think about religion and spirituality and how they relate to games. The only reason there’s been a lot of talk about gender issues in games is simply because there’s been a lot to talk about, but Cara, RPS and everyone else continue to talk about a lot of things as well.

          • SillyWizard says:

            I really expect she wrote the article because she was assigned to write the article by her editor.

          • Ada says:

            @SillyWizard

            “Still: our hobby here, as it exists, isn’t really a great place for gender-identity/ -inequlity/ -whatever issues.”

            …yeah, that’s exactly why we need to talk about it when and wherever we can.

          • SillyWizard says:

            No, it’s really not, and repeating that mantra won’t make it so.

          • Ada says:

            @SillyWizard

            I was making a joking misinterpretation of your point.

            If ‘our hobby’ is not a “great place for equality,” i.e. not [a 'great place' where people are equal] then we need to fix that!

            But I realise you were probably trying to say that ‘our hobby’ isn’t [a "great place" to try to make advances in the realm of equality and identity,] that you think these ‘battles’ would be best discussed elsewhere.

            The joke I was trying to make was, if it’s not the best place to make advances in the politics of respect, then we’ll need to try harder to make any advances at all!

            So where you say, “it’s not a great place for equality/identity” you are right in two ways, and both of those ways invalidate your own point!

            That’s the joke!

          • The_B says:

            I really expect she wrote the article because she was assigned to write the article by her editor.”

            Cara is freelance and if you’re at all familiar with her work this is exactly the sort of thing she would actively pitch herself, not just because she was told to. If you’re not familiar with her work that’s fine too, of course, but within this very article is a link to a silly article about people drawing penises in another game. In other words, writers brought into RPS tend to write whatever the fuck they want, which was somewhat the point in starting the site. Not to fill any kind of perceived “quota”.

          • The Random One says:

            I really expect she wrote the article because she was assigned to write the article by her editor.

            I understand she pitched this article to RPS and chose the game herself. I suppose I could be wrong though.

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            drewski says:

            “Lots of people are totally in to talking about that stuff, and there are places specifically designed to facilitate those conversations.”

            Yep. This is one of them.

        • Focksbot says:

          “Oh God, to enjoy nice graphics and not enjoy ugly graphics makes your a snob! ”

          It does if, as in this case, the graphics are actually nice – and a damned sight more charming than your average polygonal uncanny valley-a-thon – but you’ve decided you don’t like them because it looks too easy.

          It’s like the constant whining about pixel art – you people blindly equate quality with man hours put in. Meanwhile, every single AAA game that tries for realistic human characters gives us plastic freaks with stiff fingers and dead eyes, but that’s OK because they spent lots of money on it.

    • Ergates_Antius says:

      “Man, I keep giving Rock Paper Shotgun another chance”
      Do you think, if you tried really hard, you could be *more* full of yourself?

    • Noviere says:

      OMG! World famous internet commenteur Sam250 was going to give you a rare second chance RPS! And you went and fucking blew it… Now what?

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      thedosbox says:

      Man, I keep giving Rock Paper Shotgun another chance

      Please don’t. We’d appreciate it.

      Signed,

      Everyone else.

      • SillyWizard says:

        Not really.

        You guys are actually being more dismissive of Sam250 than he is of the article. He makes valid arguments, though probably not phrased in the best way if he was looking to spark a conversation (which I don’t think he was).

        Is it helpful to ostracize someone for making his opinion about site-content known? Considering that the site’s goal is to entertain, and to draw as much of a population as it can, they should be concerned with the thoughts of their readers.

        If the only readers here were those with thedosbox’s seal of approval, the bills probably wouldn’t get paid.

        I’m just saying it’s better to engage than to vilify.

        • The Random One says:

          Sorry, he makes no valid arguments. His arguments are:

          - This is a flash game and therefore cannot be taken seriously.
          - Cara says that the narrative is mechanically complex, but is absolutely completely impossible that a game’s narrative and mechanics are intertwined, so she is wrong.
          - I think this game is is not as good at doing its thing than books/newspaper, therefore Cara only thinks this game is good because she has never read a book/newspaper.
          - I have written a review here. It’s better and more intelligent because I agree with it.

          I don’t think I need to go into depth into why those arguments are not worth the ink they aren’t printed on.

          It’s absolutely OK to disagree with the article and to think it’s rubbish, but if you want to state your opinion of the same then I too am allowed to disagree with your post and think it’s rubbish, especially if you sprinkle it with ad hominems while also acting like you have the intellectual moral ground. You, on the other hand, seem to have a more sensible take on it and are more sensible on expressing it, even if you agree with him, which is why I’m expending some effort on responding to you that I would not expend on responding to him.

          • Synesthesia says:

            Here we go. bingo! Just ignore him. Do not feed the trolls, etc.

          • SillyWizard says:

            I’m gonna present my own interpretation of the original post:

            Man, I keep giving Rock Paper Shotgun another chance. I hear about some cool games from this site so I’m willing to look past some rubbish, but when this pseudo-intellectual tripe is the first thing I see, what do you expect me to do?

            Woe is me, I despair of seeing the day when RPS will contain only content I deem suitable!

            I’d love to hear a smart, interesting analysis of sex in games, but the over-analysis of some nobody’s random doodle game is not it.

            S’truth! Unraveling the mysteries of life is a task well worth the attentions of our keenest minds; however, methinks they’ve been waylaid by drivel.

            Look at this nonsense:

            Spy this, gentle sir:

            [“But for the men too, there is cutting social commentary” ]

            YEAH, some pointless flash game is really the medium to deliver “cutting social commentary”, christ. Anybody feel educated, enlightened or challenged in social issues by playing this game? Read a newspaper some time.

            By our lady! The things of import in this world should be treated as such! There merest child knows that that which is worth being revered must be handled with due reverence. T’is no light thing to compare the weighty with the scribbles of a dunce!”

            [“It’s rewardingly complex as a narrative told through mechanics.”]

            HA. Which part of the game was complex, the mechanics or the narrative? Do you even play games? Read books?

            Scoff! I begin to wonder if the author of this opinion is aware of what she is saying. Surely it, her words are in jest!

            You’re welcome to replace this article with my straightforward, no-bullshit (and therefore far more intelligent) analysis:

            No autographs, please.

            “This hideous and simple flash game involves sexually assertive women and atypical sex acts. That’s novel.”

            I may be missing the forest for the trees, but I fear the author may be seeing too much forest for what trees there are.

          • TheWhomp says:

            I’d like to interpret your reinterpretation, if I may.

            I can be sarcastic and talk funny on the internet!

            I like to think it’s a lot more readable.

          • Faxanadu says:

            Only because you are not versed in the gentlemanly expression of words.

            I myself applaud this civilized attempt at discussion.

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          thedosbox says:

          I’m just saying it’s better to engage than to vilify.

          He dismissed a game because of its delivery mechanism, then asked if Cara “even plays games”.

          Given that level of “discourse”, no, it’s really not worth engaging. If he doesn’t find RPS to his taste, the web is a big place.

        • sophof says:

          For what it is worth I agree with SillyWizard. The original poster is clumsy and aggressive, but he does make a point imo. Being equally clumsy and aggressive towards him is understandable. All jumping on the bandwagon to somehow prove him wrong however is a bit of a circle-jerk. Being an asshole does not make someone wrong.

          It might not be a surprise that I agree with him that this article basically over-analyses something that in my opinion isn’t really worth anyone’s time. I guess it is the lack of any interesting games in such categories, but I don’t think we should then treat the rare games that try automatically as worthy of our time, just because they exist. Basically I don’t think merit is relative, it appears the author went out of her way to find something.

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      Haywardan says:

      “Do you even play games? Read books?”

      By Jove, she’s been pretending to play games this whole time! To TRICK us!

    • MellowKrogoth says:

      I don’t think this was an extremely deep or smart analysis (kind of hard given the subject matter i.e. rather basic game), but taken in a light-hearted fashion it was enjoyable to read.

    • Wurstwaffel says:

      I gave the game a spin and was surprised by how simple and shallow it was. There is no way that thing should warrant an article of that size. It’s a top down walking game in the most boring level imaginable about collecting naughty scribbles. Also a very basic rhythm minigame. Also your scribble collecting can and will be interrupted at random.
      The actual game part of the game really is nothing special.

      I agree that Ellison is reading too much into it. I wonder what would happen if somebody actually made an honest effort to make an interesting game about the subject matter.

      • The_B says:

        @Wurstwaffle Sorry, but I really don’t think it’s right for anyone to say whether Cara’s reading too much into the game – her writing tends to come from her own personal experiences, so what she gets out of it is what she gets out of it. Moreover, it’s made quite clear this is going to be a regular, monthly column – so to imply/assume that this is (or that say, this site or Cara thinks that) this game is the only way that sex is approached or will be approached within this column is jumping to conclusions – in fact, I’d say that’s what most of the point of this column is, to explore exactly that (how different games approach sex in different ways.)

    • plugmonkey says:

      Just my 2p, but it’s the articles like this that are the only reason I still read RPS. It’s the drawn out ‘humourous’ waffle of Grayson et al that tune me out.

      Probably a good thing they publish both then, really. It takes all sorts, I hear.

  18. The Random One says:

    I imagine NSFW in this instance just means “unemployable”.

    A cool super weird article about a cool super weird game. But what is the deal with the pizza delivery guy, is he a burn victim or something?

    • Geebs says:

      Blackface is obviously still considered acceptable in the pizza delivery joint as long as your boss is a ridiculous Italian cliche

  19. Geebs says:

    Um, so somebody has a bit of a thing for the white wolf, huh?

    Also, how do you construe a game which shows the protagonist making themself and everybody around them miserable through enjoying the occasional knee trembler as “sex-positive”? About the only thing you could do to make it sound worse is a score multiplier for STDs

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      Jackablade says:

      Let’s be honest here. Does anyone -not- have a bit of a thing for the White Wolf?

      • Geebs says:

        Ahem. I do think he’s a bad example in this instance though – his major selling point with the ladies is being the era’s most uncomplicated shag, rather than being some unstoppable sex maniac.

    • gwathdring says:

      That’s only presuming that you feel the game is saying “How things happen is this game is both how they DO and SHOULD happen. If you presume otherwise (as the article does) then a sex positive message can appear. Or if you prefer, and anti-sex-negative message which, if you read that as a double negative, can be seen as a positive thing for sexual culture.

      It doesn’t portray sex itself, as an act, as bad and in some ways celebrates it. However, it is definitely interested in problems at work in sexual relationships and problems with gender roles at the same time.

      It’s a bit like making an anti-war film that shows you how shitty war is and how wonderful soldiers can be at the same time and how sad it is that wonderful, worthwhile people are wasted in war. Or, bringing it back, how unfortunate it is that our traditional gender roles make a mess of something as awesome as sex.

      • Geebs says:

        Err depicting something as both icky and potentially socially stigmatising is being positive about it? I don’t really follow how a double negative works here.

        • gwathdring says:

          Well, I’d counter with: since when is portraying something as potentially socially stigmatizing automatically judgmental of the thing as opposed to the society and the stigma?

          Also who said it was portrayed as icky? I don’t agree that it was.

          Sex is portrayed as fine and enjoyable. Everyone seems happy about it. Even Granny. Further, simply by bringing social stigma into play you’re already reading between the lines–all we ever see is stigma from people who find you having sex in an alleyway. By extrapolating that to a) sex overall and b) social perceptions rather than the perceptions of potential suitors who walk in on you having sex in a public place … you’re already doing the same sort of thing I’m doing so your confusion in turn confuses me. You seem to be taking certain parts of the game more literally than others which, while not necessarily disingenuous or incorrect, makes me unsure how to proceed in order to make my case.

          What we see, in my opinion, is a positive view of the act coupled with a negative opinion of the clearly awkward social structure being presented or alluded to by the game’s abstractions. The game is saying that sex is fine, but the structure in which we place and view sex damages our enjoyment of sex and could be more positive. So there’s your anti-sex-negative/double-negative.

          There’s clearly a lot of tongue-in-cheek at the very least and while you can read it either way in theory I think it reads best in a way similar to how Cara read it.

  20. Dozer says:

    Yay! More Cara articles. I like!

  21. SillyWizard says:

    Is monogamy not a sex-positive option anymore? As much as tolerance for alternative lifestyles is important, there’s also much to be said for more traditional roles and relationships.

    How is this even a positive portrayal of sex for women? The female character is forced into an uncontrollable urge (through the gameplay mechanic) to have sex with literally the first man she comes across, over and over. This is more “Sex Addiction: the Game.”

    Imagine all of the men are meth dealers, and whenever someone walks by Ute destroying her life, they’re horrified by what they see. (Presumably because they thought they’d monopolize her business?) At any rate…if this were an identical game about something more commonly accepted as unhealthy behavior, would it warrant an article about how cute and “rewardingly complex” it is?

    Seriously: it’s being praised because you control the person who has no concern for her own physical or emotional well-being? The more I think about it, the more this is extremely gross to me.

    It certainly doesn’t seem particularly forward-thinking.

    • The Random One says:

      I think the game is highly abstract and doesn’t literally depict her picking up random man and walking into corners to fuck them, but I also think your analysis is completely valid, interesting and a point of view I might not have considered.

    • Cheese Wold says:

      My favourite bit is when men who stumble across the protagonist having sex with a 14 year old boy in public are seen as the ones in the wrong.

      I can’t help but feel this game would have been received very differently if the genders were reversed.

      • Ada says:

        The game would have been received differently if the genders were reversed, yes.

        This is always a true statement because we live in a society that differentiates between people according to gender.

        • Cheese Wold says:

          I am not talking about simply ‘differentiating’ between gender here. I am talking about vilifying one gender and praising another in the same scenario. It’s sexism, and I hate to see it in games journalism.

    • SillyWizard says:

      By the way I should caveat my post above by saying I played the game and got a kick out of it. It’s enjoyable for what I think it is, but it seems disingenuous or naive or something more sinister to label the thing a “positive” portrayal of female sexuality.

    • Muzman says:

      Your first point is a good one. Contrary to sometimes popular belief the opposite of restricted, religiously mandated conservatism isn’t complete libertine hedonism.

      But I think in broader context the game can be seen as sort of a poke (ar ar) at the indiscriminate and shakily founded justifications for wholesale murder we usually find and generally don’t give much moral consternation for.

      • SillyWizard says:

        Ugh yes can we see more commentary on the un-health of our culture’s love-affair with murder? While I’m not inclined to believe that playing violent games leads to violent behavior, as I age, the ubiquity of remorseless violence in games (and movies to the point where I don’t generally have any interest in action flicks anymore) has been bothering me more and more.

        That may be part of what I love about The Banner Saga: fighting is heavy in that game. I don’t want to spoil any bits of it, but I’ve really enjoyed how they’ve handled it. (And I don’t mean “heavy” as in “good feedback when a hit connects,” I mean “you kind of want to fight as little as possible due to the potential consequences and emotional toll it can take.”)

    • gwathdring says:

      I believe the game’s intent is one step removed from it’s subject matter. It is presenting commentary through the way in which it presents things rather than explicitly. It doesn’t come out and explicitly say anything sex-positive, no, but between the lines it says quite a bit.

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      RobF says:

      “Is monogamy not a sex-positive option anymore? As much as tolerance for alternative lifestyles is important, there’s also much to be said for more traditional roles and relationships.”

      I’m fairly sure there is a lot to be said about traditional roles and relationships but there’s nothing in this game that invalidates that as a choice, paints that as in anyway not sex-positive or what have you, y’know? Although certainly if we’re adhering to a very traditional view of sex/relationships then we’re looking at it as especially dirty/between man and woahman only and all that and I’m not convinced that’s painting sex in a good and healthy way BUT…

      I dunno. Just seems kinda weird to take one exploration of a particular lifestyle/lifestyle choice as immediately invalidating another, right?

    • Ada says:

      You’re awfully judgemental about her ‘not taking care of her own emotional and mental wellbeing’ when you’re the one who made her walk around having sex with all those men.

      I thought Ute had fun anyway.

      Comparing sex to meth is a bit weird, sir.

      • SillyWizard says:

        It’s not weird to compare addiction to addiction. At all. Sex addiction is just as much a mental illness as alcoholism, etc.

        • gwathdring says:

          Medical folks tend to see a rather significant difference between chemical dependence and behavior patterns. Addiction is not a very useful concept if it’s merely a measure of “self control” since the concept of self-control is really rather wobbly. Especially dealing with things that a healthy body is “supposed” to find engaging based–like sex, eating food, exercise, etc.

          Everything in moderation is a good mantra, but only so long as, when we want to get more precise, what we mean is “everything moderated to an extent that does not cause undue distress, dysfunction and disorder in the life of yourself and those around you–which sometimes means excess is perfectly fine.” Even the simpler version shouldn’t be taken to mean “Immoderation = addiction.”

  22. GunnerMcCaffrey says:

    “S.EXE”

    Well, that’s probably the best title anything’s had. Time to stop titling things, I guess.

  23. altum videtur says:

    Will there be an article about Jetstream Sam in the foreseeable future, espousing the merits of his dreamy eyes and DAT ASS?

    /nohomo /icannotconfrontmyownrepressedfeelingsonewayoranother /zandatsuisaeuphemism

    Also, interesting as this all is, I cannot read it with a straight face. Am I immature or just really immature? At 21 years of age I should have some practical perspective.

  24. hypercrisis says:

    About as risque and poignant as a pierside postcard with a pair of tits on it. Come off it, you can find a more intelligent subject than this.

  25. TheWhomp says:

    I wonder what the reaction would be to a game where a man needs to have sex with as many women as he can, by choosing a woman and pressing space bar and not getting caught. Pretty sure it would be disregarded as childish titillation at best and kind of rapey, and probably cop flak for being Misogyny: The Game. Not to mention the bit where you grab a 14 year old girl and have sex with her.

    Swap the genders so it’s a woman doing these things, (including raping a 14 year old boy) and it’s somehow intelligent and thought-provoking? Any other time a game has gone near rape it’s spawned massive controversy for not being respectful enough. This one has you raping a kid to get points and it gets two lines?

    The whole “men judging her for fulfilling her desires thing” is also a bit weird. It seems pretty logical that if you see two people having sex in a public, you’re not going to line up to marry one of them? Maybe sex in a filthy alley *is* disgusting and distasteful? The men not wanting to have sex with her is only weird on their part if you assume that their default state should be wanting to sex her up?

    • Ada says:

      There are sooo many games ‘where a man needs to have sex with as many women as he can.’ That’s already the default sex game.

      By not doing that, this game was already new and different.

      Now, you say it “It seems pretty logical” but I don’t think you could actually bang out a decent syllogism (or any sort of logical process) connecting the two.

      • TheWhomp says:

        New and different doesn’t equate to thought-provoking though? Especially when the only reason it’s being considered critically is *because* it’s different, instead of any actual merit. My point is that a mechanically similar game (have all the sex before you get married, but try not to get caught!) where you played as a male would be disregarded instantly. I feel like placing more importance on the character’s gender than the actual game is a pretty silly way of doing things.

        Since we’re being pedantic though, I’d love for you to name any games where you’re playing a man and your main objective is to have all the sex. I can think of Leisure Suit Larry, and that’s about it? As far as sex games go there was one on here about running a hotel or something, and maybe some kind of RPG a while back – I don’t think there’s really enough of them to start complaining about male over-representation.

        I apologise for using the word logical, would it be better to you if you pretended I said that Cara’s idea didn’t make sense?

        • Ada says:

          The Witcher, Custer’s Revenge, All those games on NewGrounds… Damn, that’s already like 100 games where the objective is for men to have sex with women. Looks like male sexuality is over-represented again, and you spoke too soon.

          You say you “feel like placing more importance on the character’s gender than the actual game” is a problem. But the character’s gender is a new and different part of the game… and therefore worthy of new and different criticism.

          A gender-swapped version of this game wouldn’t be simply ‘disregarded,’ it would probably be played, criticised, etc… just as this game was. It would however, have a different meaning, because people of different genders are discriminated against in different ways. Your gender-swap comparison is rather circuitous.

          Which idea of Cara’s do you think doesn’t make sense?

        • TheWhomp says:

          For someone trying their hand at pedantry, you’re sure not paying attention to what you’re reading. Unless you’re suggesting that the main objective of The Witcher was to have sex with women? I’d forgotten Newgrounds even existed, but I’m not sure off the top of my head how many you play as a man in. I remember most of them being a “click here and see boobs!” kind of deal. I suppose you’ve put more research into it than me though, so what does the ratio on there look like? And is Custer’s Revenge representative of anything anymore? If it is, I think we should include Beat ‘Em & Eat ‘Em (same dev, buy you play as a woman trying to catch semen in her mouth). Since you’re stretching it this far, can I include children playing with Ken and Barbie?

          Sure, it’s worthy of new and different criticism. At this point the criticism is that it’s only superficially different. Was that unclear?

          So, just so we’re on the same page here: a gender swapped game would be treated differently to this one, because different genders are treated differently? Because you’re totally saying what I did. Or is the problem that I didn’t say that it was it would be treated poorly in comparison? (speaking of being circuitous, I’m sure there’s an easier way to make your point here) If they aren’t disregarded, could you point me to a similar piece about a similar game?

          The idea of Cara’s that I don’t think makes sense is that the men’s apparent distaste for seeing someone having sex in an alley is representative of the constraints placed on heterosexual women by society. It’s the one you picked at because I said “logical”.

          • Ada says:

            You’re right about The Witcher, I guess I forgot you said ‘main’. I still think you’re off the mark, because there are literally hundreds of simply flash games about that topic. And we were talking about a simple game weren’t we? There are of course others but don’t really need to get pedantic about that.

            My point was that because different genders are represented and treated differently, the differences in analyses are anything BUT superficial… They are crucial.

            I didn’t just pick at it because you used the word logical, I picked at it because you’re completely illogical.

            How is the illogical pressure from heterosexual men to not have sex with other men before you marry them not representative of the illogical constraints placed on the behaviour of heterosexual women?

          • TheWhomp says:

            This is dangerously close to “what is a game” territory, but I do believe there’s a difference between playing a game about having sex and clicking through an interactive slideshow to see naked people. Probably something about being an active participant? Reading back though, I’m not even sure why we’re arguing about this? It doesn’t seem like it had much to do with my original comment.

            The differences in the analysis can be more than superficial (indeed, this analysis is anything but superficial), but they’re analysing a superficial difference.

            Are we going around in circles here? I’m not well versed in my syllogisms and the like, but you asked what didn’t make sense. I told you, and now you’re saying I’m not being logical?

            That’s not all it is though, it’s the ‘illogical distaste from heterosexual men upon discovering you having sex with another man (potentially a child) in an alley, apparently moments before you’re married’. Which doesn’t sound that illogical to me at all. If I discovered someone I was considering marriage with having sex with someone else in alley the day before our marriage – would it be illogical of me to not want to marry them? If it was a dude it could easily be about the illogical constraints placed on men to only have sex with their partner. Except I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen anything like that in a game, because it wouldn’t attract nearly so much positive attention.

            Maybe it could’ve tried a little harder with its symbolism or something. All I know is that it doesn’t seem like the ‘wrong’ choice, so I don’t see how it could be representative of something I do see as wrong. Like if I was told someone not drinking a glass of water in a movie was representative of drowning – I could see how maybe there’s a link, but it seems like a stretch?

          • Ada says:

            I feel like you’re not catching on to the abstraction of an actual societal phenomenon that is represented here… I didn’t say it’s a ‘wrong choice,’ but it is definitely a widespread societal standard that enforces the madonna/whore dichotomy.

            Which is anything but logical, and has a much more than superficial effect on gender relations…

          • TheWhomp says:

            I feel like maybe you’re not catching my point. I know more than enough about gender roles and how they affect people broadly, or day to day.

            My point is that representing it through something that most people wouldn’t think is unreasonable is inelegant at best. Why not represent it with something that is actually bad?

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      Rizlar says:

      Absolutely (except I’m pretty sure it’s not rape).

      What does this say about the different ways men and women are perceived?

      • TheWhomp says:

        The child is absolutely rape, since we’ve decided that children cannot consent to sex. I guess this could be cultural though, since I’m not sure what the age of consent is in other countries (16-18 here though). I don’t believe the other ones are, but there’s absolutely a case to make for it.

        I’d say that men and women are treated equally shitily on the subject, since both get judged in different ways for having lots of sex. I can agree with some of the article, but I’m annoyed that that it took over-analyzing a game (because of the protagonist) to get to it.

        • Nick says:

          Its a tricky one, because at 14, there were few things I’d have wanted more than sex. With pretty much anyone female. But taking advantage of those hormonal feelings is another moral matter. As I say, from the males perspective, I would have been 100% fine with it, I can’t speak for anyone else, but I know how powerful the puberty change was on creating my libido.

          That said, reguardless of the 14 year olds feelings, from the older parties perspective its creepy as fuck.

        • Ada says:

          It is obvious why you think women and men get treated equally shittily…

          It is because you think analysing (unheretoforeseen) women’s experiences and representation is inherently ‘over-analysis.’

          • Geebs says:

            I had to pul out my copy of Dr Dan Streetmentioner’s Time Traveler’s Handbook of 1001 Tense Formations to parse “unheretoforeseen” which I think is more commonly used in describing the feeling that one has left the oven on in the future while travelling back to the past with the aim of becoming one’ sown mother or father.

            That said I think there’s precious little analysis here, while to claim that the human race hasn’t done much thinking about sex in the last few tens of thousands of years is a bit gauche,

            Now, if you had a sandbox game where sexual behaviours were emergent, that would be interesting.

        • TheWhomp says:

          Are you suggesting that men and women don’t get treated equally shitily? And those sure are some words you’re putting in my mouth. Instead of pretending you’re a psychic, why don’t you take them out and try again?

          Bear with me where: I copy Doom, *but* changed DoomGuy to DoomGal and make his grunts a woman’s. Then someone gushes all about it, saying that the demons and the hordes of possessed men shooting at the player are representative of how women need to be constantly aware of male aggression. Someone else goes “This seems like Doom, but you’re playing as a chick. What’s the big deal?”. According to you, the second person is only disagreeing because they believe that any exploration women’s experiences and representation is too much?

          • Ada says:

            http://dtserv2.compsy.uni-jena.de/ss2010/sozpsy_uj/17512154/content.nsf/Pages/FB013EF9784B54E8C1257706003686BC/$FILE/Buss%20Larsen%20Westen%20Semmelroth%201992.pdf

            Is a nice study on how women and men are treated differently shittily. They’re not treated the same shittily.

            That’s for sure.

            To compare this phenomenon to the treatment women vs. men by _demons_ is a reaching I think… But there was a large response to the modding of Zelda that switched Link and Zelda’s sprites and names… Mostly from small children, who weren’t already used to the ‘normal’ way we do things.

            And this isn’t actually a palette switch of another game, it is an entirely new game, with mechanics based on actual societal beliefs. P;

          • TheWhomp says:

            I didn’t really come here for a 20-year old (at least) paper on jealousy, but I read the discussion to be a sport. What is the relevance of males being more distressed by physical cheating and women being more distressed by emotional cheating (within a specific age group)? That gender roles used to serve an evolutionary purpose? Maybe it’s a problem with my original phrasing, but I don’t think it’s controversial to say that men and women get equal amounts of shitty, in differing ways.

            It certainly is reaching, and I don’t understand how in this case changing the protagonists gender would (justifiably) change the point of the entire game. I have absolutely no doubt that there a game exists where you play as a man trying to have as much sex as he can without being caught, there’s probably one where you have to do it before your marriage too.

            Mechanics inspired by societal beliefs, I feel would be far more correct. Even though I do think most people would have a problem with finding people having sex in public.

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          Rizlar says:

          I would still prefer to see that word used in terms of consent. Using the technical, legal definition seems a bit misleading, giving an impression that the game features something truly horrendous rather than just distasteful.

        • plugmonkey says:

          According to the font of all knowledge that is Wikipedia, the age of consent in Germany is indeed 14. You can criticise the legislation, but it seems wrong to criticise the game for reflecting the reality.

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            Rizlar says:

            Ah, so it’s not even technically accurate. Cheers for looking it up!

    • Focksbot says:

      “I wonder what the reaction would be to a game where a man needs to have sex with as many women as he can …”

      False equivalence. Subsequent argument is void.

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    Bluerps says:

    A column about sex in games by Cara Ellison? And it’s called S.EXE? To be honest, I don’t know how RPS could get any better from here on.

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      Big Murray says:

      More use of the word “wang” in general articles, maybe?

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        Jackablade says:

        I think I’d prefer to see more of the decidedly British terms that Monty Python’s Penis Song references like “tadger”, “Percy” or “John Thomas”.

        • Chorltonwheelie says:

          The correct medical name is “Tallywhacker”. You’re welcome.

  27. RProxyOnly says:

    And we wonder why there isn’t more parental supervision/responsibility as far as children and games go…. When it’s normal that a story like this can be next to/on the same page as the latest game from disney.. WHAT’S THE FUCKING POINT.

    • Muzman says:

      This statement makes no sense.
      One instance doesn’t equal ‘normal’ does it? (I don’t even see this Disney game)
      Risque content makes parents throw up their hands in supervising children? Can’t be doing that much supervision methinks.
      Risque content just makes them let kids play anything?
      RPSs readership consists of many unsupervised children?

      Does not compute

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        strangeloup says:

        RPSs readership consists of many unsupervised children?

        Well, judging by the average comments section…

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      RobF says:

      Won’t somebody think of the children? :(

    • Strabo says:

      Luckily Cameron saves you from all this disgusting sex-affirming dreck on the Internet by default! Isn’t that awfully nice of him?

      • RProxyOnly says:

        Really? did you ALL miss the point?… All you all so dense, or are you simply blinkered to any negative arguement whatsoever regardless of relevence…

        The point is when childrens material is in the same place as adult material.. what the fuck is the point of even TRYING to kid yourselves on that there are separate markets.. Even RPS have done articles or at least has made comments about the being no adult resposibilty when selling 18 games to kids… but why even kid yourselves that you give a shit about that arguement, when you all think it’s a ok to have tits and Bambi on the same page (pedantists.. be quiet).

        ..And if none of you see the irony in there being no demarkation in the reporting or advertising of video games, at the same time as were supposed to have an adult market and a kids market.. then I’m not the one with the problem.

        You don’t get porn mags and the fucking Beano on the same shelf for a REASON… or is it just that you have no idea what the reason may be anymore?

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          RobF says:

          This is a grown up website for grown up people. It’s not the Beano, man.

          It’s OK to deal with grown up games on a grown up website. It’s also OK to deal with games that aren’t grown up on a grown up website.

        • Ada says:

          Yes, the reason keeps making less and less sense every day.

          Why do we hide our sexuality from our kids again?

          …apart from the fact that we normalise unhealthy sexual mores on a mass-produced scale?

          Your talk of ‘reason’ needs statistics to back it up. Otherwise it’s a weak appeal to tradition of lying to our own society at the very age that we are trying to educate them.

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          Jackablade says:

          I’m still confused by this tirade. Is there a picture of Bambi or something Disney related that I’m not seeing here somewhere?

        • TheWhomp says:

          I *think* we’re supposed to be talking about the internet in general. And how terrible it is that you can’t gate off sections of it a whim? Hence this story being relevant to why parents don’t supervise their kids on the internet more, because they can pretend to be playing a disney game?

          I don’t know, but that’s my interpretation. I know stuff like netnanny (is that still a thing?) isn’t perfect, but I’m sure it would at least help in this case.

        • Muzman says:

          Yes, I did miss the point. Possibly because it’s poorly made and poorly argued and generally incoherent.
          I’m still not sure what two markets or not has to do with RPS’s content, audience or parental responsibility over supervision.
          Wrapping up with the ol’ “If you can’t see my laser acumen then I’m not the one with the problem!” doesn’t really help. Just using this “argument” means clearly you do have the problem.

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    Rizlar says:

    Yes!

  29. edwardoka says:

    “A Game For Adults” quoth the title bar. I respectfully disagree. This is “A Game For People Who Find Eurotrash Titillating”

    I’m almost certainly missing whatever point it’s trying to make (privilege duly checked), but the only message I took from was that it is a ham-fisted (fnarrr!) attempt to repulse players into accepting that they hold double standards.

    • Nick says:

      I thought eurotrash was great fun =/

      I miss you Antoine!

      • tossrStu says:

        Pepe & Popo, RIP :(

      • edwardoka says:

        I liked Eurotrash too, it was the right mix of quirky, weird, and fun, but it wasn’t in the slightest bit titillating. :-)

    • PopeRatzo says:

      And it does so by managing to drain every bit of pleasure from sex.

      But it’s post-modern and deconstructive and it’s from a developer with lady parts so stand up and cheer you cis-gender boar.

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        Rizlar says:

        If you didn’t get pleasure from those sex scenes I am inclined to think you were doing it wrong.

  30. Strabo says:

    there’s the mysterious detective man whose sexual style is to windmill his junk around in the dark

    Wait, are you saying that’s not how you are supposed to do it?

  31. Megakoresh says:

    WTF… This is a joke, right? It’s got to be a joke…

  32. Wurstwaffel says:

    This game getting an honorable mention at the IGF further affirms my view of the festival as irrelevant hipster bullshit.

  33. Ada says:

    I love you Cara.

  34. ZakG says:

    Wot a lot of comment! This has ruffled some trousers, so well done Clara, debate is the path to progress.

    Wouldn’t it be great if the wider games industry treated sex just as it treats violence (i don’t think in our modern societies you can be healthy by dividing the two)?

    Instead it is the preserve of the one-person-band Indie-type to give it any real attention.

    “Why is this?”, you may ask.

    “Money.”, is the answer. The games industry receives large sums of cash from the arms industry, and is allowed to do so. Good luck in hunting down the exact numbers.

    This is not saying that the ‘sex industry’ should follow the arms industry’s investment strategy, that would just be counter productive, and probably do as much *’harm’ to the sex in our games as the violence in our video games.

    *harm is not related to the intended purpose of the actual investments the arms industry makes. From their perspectives it is not ‘harm’ but a ‘Good’ they are aiming for, which ultimately is about desensitization of future generations (mixed in with game publishers concerns about sales etc):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desensitization_%28psychology%29

    But back to the subject at hand, sex in video games. It really needs to be better doesn’t it. Why is it in general handled so badly? Why is it often, 99% of the time, not even handled at all (where as violence is everywhere you care to look)? Our own societies hang-ups, often inherited from previous less-gaming-generations, is part of it. But we have fantastic books and films on all aspects of sex, so why not games?

    Taken in the context that the games industry is seen mostly (by the Publisher) as the preserve of the teenage boy, it is a very odd paradox, the lack of sex. I know as a teenage boy pretty much ALL i could think about was sex, pretty much every second of every day.

    But the powers that be (did they really?) decided it was going to be about ‘violence’, rather than sex, because……..?

    • Wurstwaffel says:

      You must be joking, man.

      The reason violence is prevalent in media is because of an arms industry conspiracy?
      Surely it can’t be the fact that physical violence is one of the most powerful dramatic tools in storytelling. A property only established by its disturbing nature. FPS are of course not popular because guns can cause immense dramatic impact on the narrative literally at the click of a button. No no no, it’s the man brainwashing the youth.
      God damnit, man.

      As for sex:
      Without peripherals of some sort there is no way for sex in game to evoke an emotion as close to the real thing as other actions in games can. Walking around a game world, shooting and jumping and the like make you actually feel something similar to the excitement of performing real physical actions. Sex in games has mostly been cutscenes up to now. And hitting left and right to the beat? Does make you feel like you’re having sex?
      And (speaking as a bloke) why would I want sex in games all the time? I only want to actually observe sex in my media when I’m rubbing one out. In narrative movies it’s usually relegated to a couple of seconds of screentime showing that it’s done.

      • Kitsunin says:

        Yup.

        In general, there is no narrative reason to depict sex. In a movie, book, any story, violence is often…actually, near always, a means to an end. The bad guy wants to kill everybody, so the bad guy must be killed before he can. That is the core of most stories, it establishes a problem and a possible solution in a way that makes logical sense. The violence is also the action, it establishes risk (Who is going to get killed!?) and drama (He got killed!!!?)

        Sex is something we do for fun, or for reproduction, and depiction of it almost never succeeds at doing anything other than titillate; in a story it can almost always be implied instead of shown without damaging the narrative in any way…actually, many stories are damaged by unnecessary sex scenes (In Fate/Stay Night, which I otherwise liked, for instance, I skipped every one of those awkward things.)

        The only non-erotic (Purely erotic, I do not play eroges because I want to fap, and I can’t fathom why the sex scenes are there in nearly any of the ones I’ve read) game series I’ve ever played where I actually found the sex scenes contributed to the narrative, was the Rance series. Funny, because those scenes were supposed to be erotic, yet I mostly found them funny or at least tolerable, and Rance’s character doesn’t really work without them.

    • Ergates_Antius says:

      The games industry receives large sums of cash from the arms industry, and is allowed to do so
      Riiiight.
      Good luck in hunting down the exact numbers.
      a.k.a. “I don’t have any evidence to support my theory, but you should all just take my word for it anyway”

      Even if it is true that at some point a games studio has recived money from an arms manufacturer (despite it usually being the other way around – arms manufacturers make a lot of money from licences sold to games studios) that’s a massive stretch to suggest that the games industry *as a whole* recieves money from the arms industry. To suggest that this is why so many games feature violence is patently ludicrous.

      Firstly – Violence has been a central feature of video games from the start, long before the existance of a “games industry”. Why would arms manufacturers feel the need to pay studios to encourage this? It’s what they’ve been doing, for free, since day one.

      Secondly – how would that even work? Are you imagining some form of centrally appointed administrative body that recieves the money and distributes it to all the studios – depending on how many violent games they produce?

      Thirdly – if this is widespread and prevalent (as opposed to a thing that happened once ever) how come there is no evidence? Are the games studios unaware of where these large sums of money are coming from? Or maybe *every single member* of *every single studio* is part of the conspiracy?

      • Jamesworkshop says:

        Fox Mulder did warn us about your game on the part of the military-industrial-entertainment complex

  35. otruja says:

    >>Ute’s orgasm noise is the cutest thing I’ve ever heard.

    Yes it is. I’ve uploaded it to mediafire here – http://www.mediafire.com/listen/117y6v1eean4l6x

    • Cheese Wold says:

      When placed in the game’s context of statutory rape, these comments are creepy as hell.

      • MobileAssaultDuck says:

        You do realize that there are countries where 14 is the legal age of consent, right?

        In Canada it was 14 for non-sodomy until relatively recently, and it was only risen to 16. I, as a 30 year old man, could have sex with a 16 year old legally in my country. I doubt I would, but I legally could if I so desired.

        I believe in Mexico and Spain it is as low as 13.

        This game could be taking place in a country where 14 is legal, and hence it would not be statutory rape.

        • Cheese Wold says:

          I also realise that women are not allowed to drive in some countries and homosexuality is illegal in some countries. Doesn’t make it cool.

          As a 30 year old man, would you like the age of consent in your country to be lowered to 13?

          • MobileAssaultDuck says:

            Actually, I don’t believe in some universal age of consent because it makes maturity sound like it is tied to how many revolutions around the sun you’ve completed.

            I’d rather it be a case by case basis based on the psychological conditions of a given person.

            I know 14 year olds more mature and aware than 50 year olds, and the reverse. To tie anything to how many revolutions around the sun you happened to have made is kind of silly.

            It’s completely arbitrary.

          • joa says:

            So you would prevent 50 year olds you deem to immature from having sex?

          • MobileAssaultDuck says:

            Probably. That sex could lead to a child and I’d say at least 50% of the adults I know should never be allowed to raise children.

            Having children shouldn’t be a right, it should be a privilege one proves they are capable of performing adequately.

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          Gap Gen says:

          The game’s author is Danish, and in Denmark the age of consent is 15, or 18 for people in your care: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Denmark

          Granted, this could be taking place in another country, but yeah, still creepy.

          • mukuste says:

            She’s German.

          • plugmonkey says:

            Indeed. It says so in the article, and the age of consent in Germany is 14. The game reflects the reality in the author’s country of origin. If you find it morally unacceptable, shouldn’t you criticise the legislation rather than the representation of it?

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            Gap Gen says:

            Ignore me; I’m being an idiot today.

      • joa says:

        I think it is silly to call it statutory rape.

        Consider it from the perspective of the older person. Men can be sexually attracted to 14 year old girls (if they are sexually developed) so it is pretty creepy for them to have sex with them, as they will be driven by desire. An adult woman on the otherhand is not likely to be attracted to a 14 year old boy regardless of what he looks like. So the protagonist of this game accidentally having sex with a 14 year old boy is hardly an act of creepiness for her. If anything it is worse for her, because she has slept with someone whom she could not possibly feel attraction to.

        • Ich Will says:

          What planet do you live on?

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            Gap Gen says:

            It’s like how lesbianism in the UK wasn’t illegal in the Victorian era because Queen Victoria refused to believe that it existed.

          • joa says:

            Look I know that women do have sex with underage boys sometimes because they want to – but these women are mentally disturbed. What I’m saying is that women do not naturally feel attraction to underage boys, while men can naturally feel attraction to a sexually developed but underage girl (not that I am in any way saying that that makes it OK for them to rape her!).

            Unless you believe that the protagonist in this game is mentally disturbed and has sex with the boy because she wants to.

          • joa says:

            Biology is not as simple as you think. No, I do not find 13 year olds attractive. However the point I am trying to get at is that male sexual attraction is based on being attracted to female sexual features. Girls younger than the age of consent can develop these features and they could be attractive to older males. However most males also have a strong feeling that looking at 13/14 year olds in a sexual way is not OK, negating any attraction.

            Females, on the otherhand, do not have this sexual attraction to any “features” that a 14 year old boy could have — he doesn’t have any! So if a female who is not mentally disturbed accidentally has sex with a 14 year old boy, in a comic setting as this game, it could not possibly be construed in the creepy way that it can if it is a man. That’s the difference between the female and male statutory rape thing.

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            RobF says:

            No. None of that is actually true. Men don’t have some magical biological excuse for being attracted to teenagers but are stopped by a sense of moral duty and nor do women find themselves without that biological excuse. That’s just bizarre to even contemplate and I have no idea how you even came about this theory because it’s that bonkers.

          • Ergates_Antius says:

            Regardless of reason, there is no context in which an adult having sex with a child is not a bad thing. Ever.

  36. bladedsmoke says:

    I’m all for sex-positive games, but I’m struggling to understand why a game which features child porn and racist caricaturing is considered even remotely OK just because it’s a bit arty.

    I’m not trolling. I like Cara and I like the idea behind this column! But this article is so… uncritical. Like, I presume Care knows that this game would actually be illegal to own in the UK due to child pornography laws? And anyone playing it could get into very real trouble? It’s not likely but it’s possible.

    And all in service of what? I don’t understand the point of the 14-year-old even being in the game. It’s like the controversy around Hotline Miami 2′s faux-rape scene; that was intended to be “art”, to cause “comment”, but was still horribly misjudged. I really feel like this is the same thing. Except actually illegal.

    I’m going to keep reading this column, but I just wanted to register how viscerally different my reaction was to this than Cara’s seems to have been.

    • SillyWizard says:

      Does drawing a stick-figure fucking and writing the words “14 yrs old” underneath it constitute child pornography?

      • aoanla says:

        Ironically, under British Law, “maybe”.

        (The Coroners and Justice Act 2009 does make it illegal to possess or create drawn images of children in sexual situations; however, the wording also requires the work to be created for the purpose of sexual arousal, and to be judged “obscene”. It seems unlikely that a stick figure would be considered obscene, or arousing, but you never know.)

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      drewski says:

      14 year olds aren’t “children” in the “child” porn sense of the word (the term in that context refers to pre-pubescent “children”).

      They are adolescents. Your own personal reaction to that may, of course, be exactly the same.

      • aoanla says:

        Erm. No, you’re simply wrong.
        It is still illegal, under the same legislation, to make images of 14 year olds in sexual contexts, just as it is for prepubescents. Anyone under the age of 16 is legally a “child” in this sense, as they cannot consent, (actually, in this sense, it might extend to anyone under the age of 18) in the UK. [Of course, I am speaking from the perspective of UK Law. It's possible that this may be different in your jurisdiction {Australia?}. But, in the UK, possessing images {even if they're drawn, CGI or otherwise not actually drawn from a "real" person} of anyone under the age of 16 {maybe 18} in a sexual situation, intended to cause sexual arousal, is illegal under laws concerning "child porn".]

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          drewski says:

          Perhaps; I’m approaching it from a developmental standpoint, rather than a legal one. Which, I appreciate after re-reading, is not how the OP was talking about it.

  37. Chorltonwheelie says:

    Creepy, racist, aids casserole of a game.
    I get what Cara’s saying but this isn’t the horrible game to hang it on.

  38. Chillz says:

    Nice article Cara :) Gratz on all the butthurt you managed to deliver, comments make me giggle :D But yeah, great read. Calm the fuck down peeps, go get laid, look at Ute, she seems happy.

    • Faxanadu says:

      Actually I just read all the comments and there’s very little butthurt. A maximum of two commenters with any perceivable level of butthurt, the rest is very valid criticism which is mostly left unanswered.

      The next article in this column will prove interesting, because so far, it doesn’t seem like anyone has a clue what we’re actually talking about here.

      Which doesn’t bode well if you ask me, but maybe just cynic.

      • The Random One says:

        I think most non-butthurt criticism has been either answered by other posters, or has been unanswered on account of being valid criticism that is interesting to have arguing a counterpoint. Or are you saying Cara should come back and reply to those criticisms? It’d be interesting if she did, but I don’t think she’s bound to address anything if she doesn’t want to. Her article is what’s up there, and now we’re talking about it.

        • Faxanadu says:

          I really don’t get the same vibe, but I suppose if you feel that way, you can clarify to glassy eyed me what exactly is/will this column be about? “Sex and relationships” how?

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    Unknown says:

    I’m pretty sure this game is being more than a little ironic. Why are we all taking it at face value?

  40. Jamesworkshop says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkt7_xNJVCg

    how on earth did this article “slip in” and no numberwang gets mentioned

    on the topic of the 14 y/o if you don’t make a man out of him do you have to marry him if he is the only one left

  41. BarbaraRGonzalez says:

    my roomate’s half-sister makes $78 hourly on the internet . She has been out of a job for ten months but last month her paycheck was $12406 just working on the internet for a few hours.

    see this,,,,,,,,,,,, http://x.co/3fSON

  42. itchy01ca says:

    I still don’t understand the fascination Americans have with censoring nudity or sexuality. That in itself is degrading to people who are sexual which is to say.. well everyone. And what the hell is wrong with causal sex? CAN it be dangerous? If you let it. CAN it lead to hurt feelings? So can living. Casual sex is just that. Casual sex. You don’t want to be a couple and don’t want to fall in love.. so you just have sex. You know the repercussions, you are both consenting adults.. so what’s the problem with casual sex, exactly?

    Or do I have to start linking to articles about babies masturbating in their mothers wombs? Sexuality exists in all age groups. Get over it.

  43. callumdarke says:

    my buddy’s step-aunt makes $82/hr on the computer. She has been out of work for 10 months but last month her paycheck was $18010 just working on the computer for a few hours. read this….
    http://www.dub30.com

  44. RegisteredUser says:

    Finally, after only 30 years, “Sex games” has made it to the other playable gender! :D

  45. edwardh says:

    I don’t know… I find anything that makes it seem as if women are desiring of sex to be cruel propaganda. Much like romance movies/books/etc. that create unrealistic expectations.
    I’m with Jim Carrey’s character in “The Cable Guy”: “You think a woman like that would hang out with us if we weren’t paying her?”
    Which of course would imply that it’s more of a quality problem. But this is just a very simplified description of what I think. And I doubt any woman would be interested in hearing everything, since most women despise men who talk like that and immediately disregard everything they say. And with men, it’s useless too, as they mostly either are getting laid plenty and would thus be hostile or not get any and simply agree. It’s back to that ancient system of the leaders of the packs getting all the females. And I bet that as long as women don’t fight those primal urges, as long as sexual frustration is dominant among many men, there won’t be any equality. Because sex simply is the driving factor behind a lot of the things we do. And not everyone is as idealistic as me to behave according to how things ought to be and not according to how they are.

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      drewski says:

      I thought that was tongue in cheek to start with but by the end…not so sure.

      • edwardh says:

        Well, it’s not so black and white. ;)
        Yes, there is obviously some sarcasm and generalization involved but overall, it’s not purely a joke, no.

  46. bulbasaur says:

    People (females do it even more!) label easy woman “sluts” for a good reason. No man want a slut as a life partner, because:

    -bitch is more likely to cheat
    -she has trouble bonding with one person
    -she might be pregnant with another man child
    -it is a repulsive thought that she was fucked by many cocks

    Thats of course obvious truths, but there are many naive romantics out there that belive sluts are something more than just quick relief for any man. Dont be delusional please:)

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      Joshua says:

      This comment is wrong on so many levels that it is rather terrifying. It starts with labeling easy women as “sluts”, a label which is often used by rapists to justify their actions towards a person, and then lists some “obvious truths” about “Easy women”, one of which makes not a whole lot of sense in the context it has been stated in (cheating in a relationship has nothing to do with someones sexual morals, and a whole lot to do with someones relationship morals), and the other three which are traits predominantly associated with people who have been raped :|. None of which are a valid reason to not start a relationship with someone.

      Then it states that people with certain sexual morals (or who have been victimized by an entirely different set of sexual morals :| ) can be something more then a sex object. Or, indeed, since the term “easy woman” has not been readily identified, it may also apply to people who kiss others more often, or even go out with other people more often.

      Honestly. You don’t get to judge other people based on “easy women”. And ESPECIALLY not in this way.

      • bulbasaur says:

        I dont get to judge? Well, I just did. And I will continue doing it. Dont be mistaken – everybody does it, women more often and with more cruelty than men. If dumb easy woman want , they can believe that “Sex in the City” type of mentality is something to be proud of. But in reality there will not be a prince to pick your used up, aged, neurotic and narcissistic woman after you are ‘satisfied’. Fuck that shit!. Reason why virgins are more valued in many societies is beacause they make better life partners, period. The point here is: Go fuck as many sluts as you want, but never commit to them!

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          Joshua says:

          Wouldn’t that turn me into a slut?

          • bulbasaur says:

            No, but there is a risk of:

            -Std’s
            -Being robbed
            -Being ridiculed by friends (if u are sleeping with ugly bitches)
            -Not willingly cuckolding some other guy (he may even unknowingly have to raise your bastards)
            -Getting battered by some other fuckers who are after the same slut
            -Getting rinsed (if you are extremaly dumb)

            (Watch this if you dont know what rinsing is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgC9Z3uzPgY#t=1086 )

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            Joshua says:

            … Why wouldn’t it make me a slut? Isn’t there a significant risk of being percieved as having the traits you specified in the first post by other people, thus significantly worsening my chances for a long term relationship? Why would you consider a woman who has slept with ‘x’ men an undesirabibility, but then not apply the same standards to say, yourself?

          • bulbasaur says:

            :/

          • HadToLogin says:

            Joshua, there is a “joke”/anecdote/metaphor about that kind of mentality: women are like locks and it’s shitty lock if lots of keys opens it while men are keys – it’s master key when it opens many locks.
            Thanks to that mentality, women can be sluts, but men can’t be. Unless they are bottom-gay men, that is…

        • bulbasaur says:

          Listen, what is the main difference between man and woman? We cant get pregnant. Life style of a slut is a mayor risk for future motherhood because:

          -STDs may significanly weaken the womb (not really a case with man)
          -You cannot be sure who the father is (large percentage of men are raising another men children)
          -Sluts are overall materialistic, lazy, cant cook or do house chores – often reason for beaing a whore is to get material benefits and dont ever do any work ( see: rinsing)

          There is many other reasons, but just think about it for a while and you’ll get it, cheers!

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            Joshua says:

            I get it, you’re a misogynistic bastard.

            Do I get a cookie now?

            - men are just as likely to get STDs as women – which in turn signifacantly weakens the womb!, etc.
            - You can not be sure if your husband has… created… responsabilities elsewhere.
            - People like these often have unemancipated views on women and are content to let their wives do all the cooking.
            - … How did prostitution come into this?

          • bulbasaur says:

            Why misoginistic? I have great relationship with a good woman. Whats your problem gamers, why you feel the need to fucking defend easy girls? there is no prize for being delusional, kthxbb

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            Joshua says:

            Really? What does your partner think about your statement that you should ” fuck as many sluts as you want?” 0_o

          • bulbasaur says:

            Joshua says:

            Really? What does your partner think about your statement that you should ” fuck as many sluts as you want?” 0_o

            Believe it or not, she is even more repulsed by slutiness then me. I dont know if thats just polish woman traits or thats universal, but most polish woman are bigger “slut shamers” than mens are. This a matter of good instincts, which you seem not to posses at all.

            I said “fuck as many sluts as you want” beacause why would I tell others what to do with their life? You want to waste it (time and resources) on sluts? Go ahead! just dont commit and it can even be avaluable lesson about what to avoid in relationships. My gf understands that human worth comes from traditional values like loyalty,honor and courage. I teached her that, and sucking cock too – which is also a great woman skill.

            ps.reply system on this site is fucked

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            Joshua says:

            I am just curious why you go trough all this effort to explain your views on slut-shaming (which is, again, most often used on rape victims :|) and how terrible easy women are, yet then say that you have absolutely no problem with me sleeping with a bunch of them, even though I then display the same moral values as these “sluts” would.

          • bulbasaur says:

            First off you should stop talking about rape victims, this has nothing to do with this. Throwing this word around at every ocassion is just plain dumb attemp to stir emotions. Believe Im against hurting people, as much as you are.
            Everything I say is from experience. I knew easy females and easy males. The results of this life style for my male friend was STDs (visible) and financial cost. The female on the other hand -Std, then abortion(expensive and depressing) , now is unable to ever have kids. Were different than woman, thus we have differnt traits.
            Would you call woman a coward if she runs away from a fight? No. But a man does it – he is labeled a coward.
            Is this called “coward shaming’?

            Ps. Read the story of this painting by Kokoshka, it says alot about how actions of a bad woman can affect men http://www.guggenheim.org/new-york/collections/collection-online/artwork/2224

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            Joshua says:

            “First off you should stop talking about rape victims, this has nothing to do with this. Throwing this word around at every ocassion is just plain dumb attemp to stir emotions. ”

            The same applies to throwing the word slut around, and unfortunately, those are extremely related. Have you never heard of the victim blaming process?

            Would you call woman a coward if she runs away from a fight? No. But a man does it – he is labeled a coward.
            Is this called “coward shaming’?

            I suppose so. It’s perfectly sensible to back down from a fight, you should never be called out for that – the one who attempted to start a fight should.

        • bulbasaur says:

          Listen, try this: Pick up a slut from whatever place, fuck her, then ask if she takes offence if someone called her a slut. I guarantee that she will just laugh because she knows what she is, because she enjoys being it. Then marry her and have children. Happy ending, right? Thats what you romantics are for anyway, taking financial care of the slutty ones when they become too old or used up for taking every cock in the area. Good luck! http://vimeo.com/75534042

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      Thirith says:

      Wow, that was… what’s the word? Ah, there it is. Repulsive. Good to see that there are still people with the sexual double standards of a Tony Soprano.

    • joa says:

      Pretty crude but pretty effectively illustrates the biological underpinnings to the whole slut double standard, i.e. why we have evolved these contrary attitudes to promiscuous women and men. I’m not justifying it, but it does go to show that it’s a lot of more complicated than just cultural misogyny as left-wingers would have you believe.

  47. Josh W says:

    Why isn’t anyone talking about the rhythm game aspect? Isn’t that really cool? Different characters having their own rhythm in the game is a really nice way to describe differences in character that don’t normally get represented in games, or in media full stop, within a very minimal template.

    I can’t actually think of anything I’ve come across that does that.

  48. lofaszjoska says:

    This game has been around since 2010. Why write an article about it now and now only, I wonder?

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      Joshua says:

      Why not? Better late then never. Also, it might have something to do with Clara only having been around this year IIRC.

    • TWChristine says:

      Two possible reasons off the top of my head..just because it has been around for several years doesn’t mean she knew about it. One of my favorite books came out in 1984 and (besides the fact that I was way too young at the time) I didn’t know anything about it until several years ago. Now I try to make everyone read it.

      And even if she did know about it, perhaps there was no impetus to write about it at the time, where now it fits with the purpose of the column.

  49. Sedatives says:

    How does she come first in the pic where she has the guy bent over? I can see what he’s getting out of it, and I’m sure it could be exciting for her too, but for her to finish first that way?

  50. mailyard says:

    I once knew a Polish Catholic priest who had a little potato wrapped in a miniature babushka sitting on his desk. He lovingly called it “my babushka” and said it reminded him of his mother–and HOLY GOD did that man like to drink. Anyway, I mention this because that potato is a far more realistic depiction of humanity than the grandmother who bookends Ute. Grandmother serves two functions: she sends the heroine on her journey of casual sex then appears at the end to impose rigid social norms. I suppose there’s something to be said for the older woman encouraging our character to break free before she is “locked down” as they say, but Ute is really only offering the poles–senseless promiscuity or sexless marriage–while most of liberal humanity lies at the equator. This game’s view of sex and marriage is deeply, religiously conservative, right? Anyway, if it seems strange that Ute’s grandmother is both encouraging promiscuity and shackling (Punishing? I think my priest friend would like that) our character, it’s because she’s not really a character with explicable motives. She’s not really a character; she is Justification and Punishment.

    If Ute is communicating primarily in game mechanics, note that the mechanic is Stalk-Capture-Abscond-Screw. Let’s pause a minute there and acknowledge that, on its face, that is a really troubling dynamic. It is at heart a control fantasy and far into the icky side of control fantasies. Perhaps that’s an ungenerous reading and it should really be characterized as Follow-Seduce-Elope-SexyTime, but I have a hard time reading it that way since NPC choice (or the illusion of it) is in no way built into the game. As Cara mentions, your partners seem to be enjoying themselves, but, the thing is, Ute is really entirely unconcerned with how your partners feel one way or another as they follow you to a dark corner. Say what you will about a game like Leisure Suit Larry, at least the adventure game mechanics gave his partners a semblance of needs and desires (Oh, thank you for bringing me the apple I asked for–NOW WE SHALL HAVE SEX). Ute is about control: stalk a person, press SPACE, and they are yours. Press a button and a person is yours: that’s prurient in a *very* specific way. Grandmother is around to offer justification and punishment in non-sequitur bookends, but the core of Ute is self-gratifying, absolute control. It’s only a problem if you’re caught and, yeesh, isn’t that loaded. Is Ute rapey? Yeah, a bit.

    What defense Ute offers for our character’s actions reminds of the seedier side of control fantasy entertainment: a person’s initial powerlessness excuses their later abuse of power and, in the case of some pornography, an interview with the actor/actress wherein they assure the viewer that an encounter was entirely consensual. Fair enough, but I can’t shake the feeling that they’re putting a pretty little bow on something that is essentially ugly.