Angry Urination & Other Scenes From Homefront 2

By Alec Meer on June 12th, 2014 at 8:00 am.

Let’s move on from the “huh? But why?” issues around Crytek making a sequel to the THQ-dooming COD rival Homefront, and indeed on from “North Korea successfully invades the US, seriously?” and spend our time instead asking “OK, so what’s it like?”

Going on this footage from straight outta E3, clearly it’s working the occupied city line hard, as well as fun with improvised future-tech. The ‘uprising’ system is intriguing too – potentially moving the game away from Broman Saves The World and into something that’s about co-ordinating a massed resistance movement. Also there’s a scene where a guy has a wee in public while swearing his head off, then promptly gets beaten up for it, which very much reminds me of living in Camden.

This comes from someone’s recording of someone’s Twitch stream, but as far as I can tell that’s a Crytekdude talking us through what’s going on.

Looks like Cryengine doing its thing adeptly, lots of optional things to make, do, explore and destroy, a whole lot of different combat and tactical options, and maybe, hopefully, a shooter that now very much has its own identity rather than desperately tries to snatch a piece of someone else’s pie.

There’s a lot to like here, in theory at least, and the idea of Crytek apparently stepping back from heavily-scripted chaos into something much more open is one it’s hard not to get excited about. Let it be, let it be.

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  1. SupahSpankeh says:

    Out of curiosity, have they announced support for just Windows or also Steam OS?

    Cos if Steam OS is to stand a chance of shaking things up, then we should start seeing announcements to that effect.

    • Sghirate says:

      The target platforms are: Xbox One, PlayStation 4, Windows, Mac and Linux – and considering that SteamOS is essentially a “pimped up Ubuntu”, the Linux version is ‘the SteamOS version’

      • LionsPhil says:

        Basically.

        Announcing Linux and SteamOS separately would be like announcing that it’s available for both Windows 7 you installed yourself and Windows 7 preinstalled by Dell.

        • TacticalNuclearPenguin says:

          It’s funny because, in a way, there really is a difference as OEM solutions tend to be overfilled with extremely pervasive bloatware.

          I got your point though!

      • rustybroomhandle says:

        SteamOS is based on Debian, not Ubuntu. And it’s more de-pimped than pimped-up. (which is a good thing)

    • Ramshackle Thoughts says:

      Y’know, as if to prove your point, I’d totally forgotten SteamOS was a thing…

      • TacticalNuclearPenguin says:

        Aye, for now i feel it’s still rotting in the same dungeon in which they locked Mantle aswell.

        Once in a while they are permitted to look out ot the window and scream “WE EXIST!”, only to be later clubbed into unconsciousness and pissed upon by underpaid guards.

    • Keyrock says:

      Yes, it’s coming to Linux (SteamOS) as well as Windows.

  2. dsch says:

    Pure right-wing propaganda. It is a reliving of the US’s favourite self-image, that of “the people” throwing off “tyranny,” all the while occupying precisely the opposite, imperialistic position in the world. And it’s no coincidence that the oppressors are communist Koreans and they represent the functions of government as such as tyrannical.

    • Baboonanza says:

      Except, ah, made by Germany company at their studio in Nottingham.

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        cpt_freakout says:

        Nationality of the producer is relevant inasmuch as it reveals just how much of this US image of the concept of freedom is prevalent all over the West. Most people’s ideal of thing unfortunately coincides with this kind of ‘self-defense against (foreign) tyranny’ construct, which goes on to say just how much of our ideology has been shaped by US culture and policy.

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        DrollRemark says:

        What’s its target market though?

        It’s pretty much the same reason they make big FPS games with male lead characters (topical!) – dull pandering to their perceived audience.

    • joa says:

      I’d rather have the US being the imperialist superpower than North Korea.

      • SIDD says:

        It would actually have been a novel twist that the “oppressive regime” were the american government, their puppetmasters and their “security agencies” …. the 1% vs the 99% … but that one might hit a bit too close to reality to be approved

      • joa says:

        Oops – what I mean by that is if we’re going to have a imperialistic superpower in the world, I’d rather that it be one that respects freedom and human rights rather than one that doesn’t. America is a force for good on the most part.

        • SIDD says:

          ” one that respects freedom and human rights”…

          Edward Snowden, the Occupy movement, pretty much any person who has been subjected to the scrutiny of homeland “security” for no apparent (or explained) reason, and a few detainees at Guantanamo Bay would like to have a word with you ;)

          • The Godzilla Hunter says:

            Yet, if you were/are American, you would still be able to say that.

            Seriously saying that America and North Korea are similar in oppression only serves to water down the actual horrors that go on in North Korea.

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            cpt_freakout says:

            That it’s not worse does not in any way make the US “a force of good”, so no, it’s still very naive to say something like that.

          • SIDD says:

            “seriously saying that America and North Korea are similar in oppression only serves to water down the actual horrors that go on in North Korea.”

            Nobody is saying that, and your world is VERY black and white if that’s what you took from the above.
            And I doubt anyone wouldn’t prefer living in the USA as it is today over North Korea.

            My points merely were:

            1) Extrapolating how USA looks today, a much more likely scenario for game setting would be the “corporate american government” turning into a totalitarian regime oppressing the “average citizen” rather than North Korea ever having a chance to invade USA.

            But…

            2) Stating that the USA “respects freedom and human rights” is a bit naive. The major difference between USA and North Korea in that regard being that USA still puts up the pretense of conforming to those values and not openly practicing violation of them, whereas North Korea so blatantly obviously don’t give a flying f***! However the bullshit you see USA pull of in the name of “fighting terrorism” is frightening similar to what Stasi and KGB pulled off before the wall fell and I don’t recall EVER hearing anyone describe them as being either great believers in freedom or human rights.

          • The Godzilla Hunter says:

            @SIDD

            Sorry, I had assumed from your statement that you were someone who really didn’t know too much about NK and were actually comparing them in levels of oppression of freedom. It’s not my worldview that lead me to that belief (I realize that you can have two oppressive nations with one being less oppressive than the other) so much as my general experience with the internet. Apologies.

            Regarding you two points:

            1) Yeah, definitely. However, realize that NK really is just a stand in for China, which is far more likely (though still on the far edge of probability) of successfully invading America.

            2) Agreed, though I would put in that the American people, for the most part, believe in these ideals and we still do have some power over the government.

          • SIDD says:

            @ The Godzilla Hunter
            No worries, mate – no offense taken.

            I guess one of my pet peeves really is that the bad guys are always so caricatured (evil commies or extreme fundamentalists seeming to be the main categories for modern day shooters) and I’d love to see a game being a bit more critical of western politics and giving a bit of grey nuance to the moral consequences of gunning down “our own” rather than it always being so black and white, “Us vs Them”.
            Home front would have been excellent for this kind of back story but doesn’t dare push the envelope.

            That said….as a “troubled teen in the eighties”, how can I not look forward to playing “Red Dawn the Game”?! ;)

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            Joshua says:

            Mirror’s Edge does do point 1.

          • joa says:

            Obviously there’s a balance to strike. While I’m not keen on having my internet and phone spied on, I’m less keen on being blown up by a terrorist. While it is a violation of human rights for terrorists to be detained and tortured in secret prisons, it’s done to prevent hundreds and thousands of people from losing their lives, which is a greater violation of human rights.

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          cpt_freakout says:

          Haha go read the news, my friend.

          • hungrycookpot says:

            You’re the naive one if you think that what America does and has done is not radically better than the alternative. We were all anarchist/anti-imperialists when we were 18 and didn’t know what the rest of the world was like.

          • SIDD says:

            “hungrycookpot says:
            You’re the naive one if you think that what America does and has done is not radically better than the alternative. ”

            What alternative would that be?

            If you actually read the conversation above you’d see that it was never stated nor intended to imply that “USA = North Korea”.
            And if those are the only two choices then yes, most likely any person would prefer USA – which is ALSO clearly mentioned above….but I dare say that you’re very limited in your vision if you think the American model on society is the pinnacle of perfection.

            However if you in all seriousness can state that USA is the definition of “freedom” and the great defender of Human Rights, then you ARE naive – and in denial.

            “We were all anarchist/anti-imperialists when we were 18 and didn’t know what the rest of the world was like.”

            And now that we’re grown up we should just accept the lesser of two evils and never question authorities because “they know what’s better for the greater good”?
            Sorry, but I prefer to strive for something better!

        • InternetBatman says:

          The US has an incredibly mixed human rights, there is no clear indication that the US government does more good than bad. US foreign aid is about equally mixed between military aid / war on drugs / anti-terrorism and humanitarian aid. The US government also frequently lies about its foreign impact (as does everyone else); most notably, the military had private and public civilian death tolls for the war in Iraq. Privately we killed over 100k civilians by mistake, publicly 5k.

          Even so, if we decide that the world needs a single superpower, I would also prefer the US than North Korea. But that’s like choosing between goofus and Hitler.

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      Gap Gen says:

      Every day on all the cable networks they’re playing a two minute advert of this so Americans can shout invective against the Axis of Evil at the TV. [\SUBTLE ORWELL REFERENCE]

      • CookPassBabtridge says:

        “He imagines himself in the Ministry of Love – innocent, where all is forgiven. He imagines himself walking down a corridor, the long-hoped-for bullet entering his brain, and totally awesome destructibility effects scattering bits of blood and bone and sick and testicle and stuff”

  3. JimboDeany says:

    Camden has more crazy shouty people but otherwise very similar

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    Gap Gen says:

    And then the military located them immediately via the signal from the illegal phone the protagonist is using.

    “And this is the sky whale everyone’s talking about?”
    “Yes, it follows you in the sky, offering positive advice and observations.”
    “Now what made you implement this feature?”
    “Oh, we didn’t implement it, it sort of showed up in the code. We’re still not sure why it’s there or how to get rid of it, but it mostly just floats around and talks to the player, so we’re not worried.”

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      RedViv says:

      Damn Outsider and his shenanigans.

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        Gap Gen says:

        “Here’s a human heart with a cog in it. I made it myself.”

        • CookPassBabtridge says:

          Will they be making a Sky Surveillance Whale plushie? Just because, er you know… merchandising is important. From a marketing perspective.

          (Sky Surveillance Whale plushie)

  5. Crane says:

    Am I the only one mildly alarmed by a game in which the white protagonist slaughters the Yellow Peril with a nice ‘justification’ for all the racially-based killings?

    Considering RPS’ focus on social injustices in games, I’m a little surprised no-one’s mentioned this…

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      Gap Gen says:

      You’re not the only one, no.

    • GernauMorat says:

      I agree. It also plays into the bizarre obsession the world’s biggest military power has with being the victim/under attack.

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        Gap Gen says:

        I think in general the US distrusts authority, so has to play a weird game where it’s the most powerful nation on the planet and at the same time can’t use the word empire because that goes against its founding myths of revolting against empire. I mean, it’s better than the overt jingoism and racism that European powers had, but sure, it’s still there, just cloaked in layers of fiction.

        • GernauMorat says:

          Yeah, England for example was outright resource exploitation sometimes masked or alleviated by paternalism. The modern one is political and economic hegemony backed up by massive force. Still, the point is unless you set a game 500 years in the future or something the US being the underdog is just silly/ insulting

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            Gap Gen says:

            Yes, even some quite progressive writers in the 1800s still believe the idea that people of a different “race” need to be subjugated and brought into Western modes of thinking for their own good, equivalent to restricting the rights of children compared to adults. The first part of On Liberty says this, despite espousing in things like gender equality and personal freedom. No doubt our generation will have things that future generations think of as weird and reactionary too, of course.

          • GernauMorat says:

            Agree. Also, off topic, but this is why I love RPS. There are not a lot of sites in which we could have such a civil discussion, let alone gaming ones!

          • CookPassBabtridge says:

            Glasses of sherry and port for everyone. Huzzah!

    • The Godzilla Hunter says:

      As a half-white half-Asian American, I am not concerned. I feel it has much more to do with, you know, trying to find a plausible enemy (in the sense of a nation who are completely antagonistic to America, if not in the sense of actual capabilities) than for a justification to kill Asian people.

      • Smion says:

        I guess it might also have something to do with the fact that the average non-North Korean knows jack-shit about North Korea and usually isn’t able to change that without undertaking great efforts, whereas you can relatively easily go on vacation in Shanghai or St. Petersburg and see that people there live a life at least superficially similar to ours. I think nowadays, the only other (human) alternative as alienating and scary to western audiences would probably be strongly islamic theocracies but in the current climate that’d open an even bigger can of worms.

    • ShatteredAwe says:

      Yeah, Racism against Asians seems to be tolerated a whole lot, at least in gaming.
      Sort of scary.

  6. DumbCreature says:

    Since Crytek Frankfurt involved in making this game it would be funny if space aliens will appear in the game. How else North Korea will conquer USA if not with the help of alien technology? Aliens may give Korea something to beat US as they are really powerful and may slow down alien invasion to Earth.

    • XhomeB says:

      Hacker attacks? EMP?

      • DumbCreature says:

        I haven’t played first game. Are you explaining to me how NK beat USA?

        • XhomeB says:

          Just throwing some ideas around, but yes, in the game, NK used EMP (detonated a nuclear device in space) to destroy the infrastracture.

  7. XhomeB says:

    Mandatory iron sights, yay for crappy design. Look at how giant the reticule is, it pretty much guarantees it’s flat out impossible to hit anything when firing from the hip. Sigh.

    • CookPassBabtridge says:

      This is Crytek so I’m not worried. Despite their many faults, shooting and guns is a particular talent of theirs. Personally am looking forward to some next gen Crytek Gear Porn and single-shot selected headshots.

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        Gap Gen says:

        Yeah, even if the story and setting are guff, it’s probable that the actual action of pointing at mans and clicking on them will be well designed.

  8. The Godzilla Hunter says:

    “THQ-dooming COD rival Homefront”

    I thought that the uDraw, or whatever it was called, had more to do with THQ’s demise.

    • Keyrock says:

      It was. THQ sunk a whole lot of money into the uDraw tablet and it never panned out the way they hoped it would. It was actually a pretty decent piece of hardware, but it killed the company.

  9. TacticalNuclearPenguin says:

  10. Drakshaa says:

    I really want this exact game except you play as the occupiers and crush the rebellion. I do not know if other people feel like this but i am tired of playing the underdog rebel fighting for freedom or whatever. I want a game where i can play as just another soldier in the machine crushing the rebellion so that we can have time to develop the non-military applications of the obviously insanely advanced tech.

    And i REALLY want to play as someone who isn’t bearded and ruggedly handsome who can deflect from his fashionably ragged clothes while gunning down fully armored soldiers with a pistol.

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      Harlander says:

      It’s not really the same genre or type of game, but if you want to play an overwhelming force crushing the puny resistance, you might keep an eye on Isomer

    • SillyWizard says:

      Not in the same genre, but I’ve long wished for a turn-based strategy type game (I’m too old and slow for the real times, now) that pits one player as an overwhelming military force (the gov’t) against a tiny resistance movement, with the general population caught in the middle.

      Each side would work on eradicating the other, while at the same time needing to somehow manipulate the populous for assistance. (For example, the resistance having popular support would enable them to move through the country/city/whatever undetected, whereas the government having the approval of the people would receive plenty of notifications about what the resistance is up to and where they might be.)

      Sort of think of it as a Vietnam simulator, with one faction numerically and militarily superior in every way, but concentrated in a few power-centers, and the other faction being a genuine underdog that’s hard to pin down due as they vanish into the countryside swiftly whenever directly engaged.

      So half the game is trying to get the best of the other side, and the other half is trying to ingratiate yourself to the people.

      Yeah. I want to play that game.

  11. Highstorm says:

    I’m not entirely sure why, but I felt immediately put off by that persistent, GTA-esque (identical?) minimap.

    I’m still waiting for someone to do something interesting with in-game maps and the increasing prevalence of smart phones. He’s got the map on his phone there, so why not have the player connect their phone, and display the map/minimap/cell phone menu on their actual phone?

    Though to answer my own question, I’m sure that would require a large investment of resources, and testing for the huge variety of devices out there would be a massive pain in the ass.

    • SillyWizard says:

      I’m also waiting for smart phones to become a tool for manipulating PC games in addition to the kbam. I don’t care how hard it is to implement. Just do it.

      • The Random One says:

        It’s at best a gimmick on the WiiU. Using a device with variable specs, resolution and even OS is unlikely to result in a improved experience.

  12. CookPassBabtridge says:

    This is probably the first shooter I have felt excited about for a very long time.
    Live up to the promises please Crytek :)