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Giaddon
16-08-2011, 03:11 PM
This thread is to gather up the overflow of people who couldn't get into a game in this thread (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?1022-Alpha-Centauri-PBEM-club).

THE PLAYERS -- TURN ORDER

1) Lukasz: Gaia's Stepdaughters
2) Johnny Lizard: Human Hive
3) Zyrden: University of Planet
4) Liqourish: Morgan Industries
5) riadsala: Spartan Federation
6) Giaddon: The Lord's Believers
7) The Innocent: Peacekeeping Forces

riadsala
16-08-2011, 03:28 PM
yeah, I'm in!

Zyrden
16-08-2011, 06:33 PM
Sure, count me in. As University.

kingbiscuit
16-08-2011, 06:56 PM
I'll take the fungus-huggers / Gaians :)

Johnny Lizard
16-08-2011, 11:53 PM
I'm in! I'll take the Hive.

Liqourish
17-08-2011, 06:11 AM
In! I'll take morgan industries.

riadsala
17-08-2011, 09:40 AM
Can I go the Spartans?

Giaddon
17-08-2011, 01:11 PM
OK, we're just looking for one more player.

Giaddon
19-08-2011, 04:05 AM
I'm going to be in Vegas for the next week (???), so that will give us time to pick up another player. Stay tuned, everyone!

The Innocent
20-08-2011, 12:24 PM
I'd like to play! I can take Peacekeepers.

Lukasz
22-08-2011, 06:14 PM
so is everyone playing it?

Liqourish
26-08-2011, 12:26 PM
Need one more guuuuy.

Zyrden
26-08-2011, 03:08 PM
Actually, since The Innocent joined, we have 7 players.
Not surprised that The Lords Believers is last pick :P

The Innocent
26-08-2011, 03:26 PM
So are we doing this via Dropbox?

Giaddon
28-08-2011, 05:16 AM
Hello everyone!

I'm back in Boston and ready to get this party started. Full player and faction list is in the first post.

Dropbox works for me. Is there anyone who can't use dropbox?

riadsala
28-08-2011, 09:58 AM
dropbox is fine for me

Zyrden
28-08-2011, 02:31 PM
Same here.

Liqourish
28-08-2011, 06:31 PM
Dropbox is fine for me too. Can't wait to get this going.

Giaddon
28-08-2011, 07:37 PM
Settings:

Normal Map, 30-50% water, average erosive forces, average native life, average rainfall?

Lukasz
28-08-2011, 08:32 PM
will you guys do aar?

The Innocent
28-08-2011, 10:32 PM
@Giaddon

Those settings sound great to me. Looking forward to this!

@Lukasz

If there's enough interest I'd be happy to write down what's going on from my perspective at least. It would be cool if we could create something from everyone's point of view (I'm thinking back on the excellent RPS Solium Infernum pieces), but that might not be a project the other players would be interested in.

Lukasz
28-08-2011, 10:35 PM
it would be cool... everyone after 10 turns writes a short summary (with narrative if he can) of what happened to his faction

Liqourish
28-08-2011, 11:11 PM
Almost definitely.

EDIT: re: AAR.

I'll probably jot down notes every turn, actually - since it's only once a week.

kingbiscuit
29-08-2011, 12:37 AM
Can't get this working sadly, you may need to find a sub for me.

riadsala
29-08-2011, 09:33 AM
Can't get this working sadly, you may need to find a sub for me.

As in, your computer won't run SMAC? What OS are you using? And maybe it's worth having a look on gog.com for advice?


AAR

I'll be writing my side of the story up. But is a turn 10 delay not too small? If I, god forbid, build up an army and start planning for war, i'd want those plans kept secret until everything was in position. Not that I'm likely to do such a thing. That's more Yang's style. Can't trust him. Keep a bead eye on him.

The Innocent
29-08-2011, 02:37 PM
@riadsala / AAR-interested people

I think that our AAR should be an after-action report, and not a game diary. Unless we really want the risk of potentially having our plans read by other players (and what's the fun of writing it down if not to talk about our rotten plans?).

I think we should all write it up as we go, and then all post it together when we're done.

Zyrden
29-08-2011, 03:00 PM
What does AAR stand for?
I don't mind doing it, but it'll be my first time.
Posting it all at once, kinda defeats the purpose imo. I assume it's meant to be something for the non-players to read, and get something out of the game as well?
If there's something you want kept secret, just don't write about it. It can be explained later with flashbacks or in-world notes and such.

@Giaddon
No objections to average settings.

The Innocent
29-08-2011, 03:07 PM
AAR stands for after-action report. It's fairly traditional to post about PBEM games after the game is over so as to avoid spilling your plans.

It's not just that I don't trust you guys; it's also that I don't trust myself.

If people want to write up stuff during the game, that's fine of course. But I'll probably keep anything I write pretty close to the chest until the game is finished.

Lukasz
29-08-2011, 06:17 PM
how long a game will take? with a turn per week... that's like half year at least.

and if king won't make the game run i would like to join :P

Johnny Lizard
29-08-2011, 06:18 PM
I agree with Innocent re AAR.

Liqourish
29-08-2011, 10:12 PM
Obviously you wouldn't publish what has been happening until after the game's done with, right?

The Innocent
30-08-2011, 01:03 AM
I think that's what we're discussing. I'm for writing up the AAR as we play and publishing it afterwards, but there is an appeal to publishing it as a series while it's ongoing.

Zyrden
30-08-2011, 01:52 AM
Oh I see. I just misunderstood what you were really talking about; I've been reading too many LP's lately :P
Either way is fine by me.

Giaddon
01-09-2011, 03:39 PM
Are down a dude (kingbiscuit?) Should we continue with 6 players?

Also, everyone PM your dropbox account to me so I can start linking us up!

The Innocent
01-09-2011, 04:22 PM
Lukasz said he would fill in for kingbiscuit.

Giaddon
02-09-2011, 04:31 PM
Why can't I read my own thread?

OK, Lukasz is in as Gaia's Stepdaughters. Welcome aboard!

I have the dropbox accounts of:

The Innocent
Liqourish
Johnny Lizard
Riadsala
Giaddon
Lukasz

So I need the dropbox account of:

Zyrden

Lukasz
02-09-2011, 06:19 PM
sent my info

and are you guys good? cause i haven't touched the game in six years :P

Zyrden
03-09-2011, 02:47 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot to check the forums. PM sent.

And I haven't played in years either, though I played a couple of turns after reinstalling, just to get a little familiar with it again.

The Innocent
03-09-2011, 05:08 AM
I played through a game two weeks ago, but other than that I haven't played it since it was new. So I plan on being massacred quite easily!

Lukasz
05-09-2011, 10:04 PM
so when do we begin?

riadsala
06-09-2011, 03:04 PM
What he said. I'm all ready to go!

Giaddon
07-09-2011, 12:47 PM
I sent out a shared folder invite to everyone. There should be a txt file in it called welcome. Confirm the folder and I'll set up the game when I get home from work!

Lukasz
07-09-2011, 02:05 PM
how do we play? everyone has a turn once a week on certain day? we do turns in order but whenever we feel like but maybe with time limit

riadsala
07-09-2011, 02:12 PM
how do we play? everyone has a turn once a week on certain day? we do turns in order but whenever we feel like but maybe with time limit

It seems silly to restrict progress to 1 player turn per day. It should be too hard to get a couple of of organised so that we can get the turn passed round a few people in one evening. I'd suggest we just play it by ear... as long as each player knows who they're waiting for, so they can remind people to take their turns if everything goes quite for over a week.

Lukasz
08-09-2011, 06:19 PM
I left message for Licquire and Lizard. They are the only one who did not confirm.

Giaddon
09-09-2011, 02:57 AM
The first turn is in the 'box, it is for Lukasz, Gaia's Stepdaughters

Good luck and have fun, everyone!

riadsala
09-09-2011, 09:01 AM
Good work.

Do we have a turn order?

Giaddon
09-09-2011, 12:33 PM
We do, we do!

1) Lukasz: Gaia's Stepdaughters
2) Johnny Lizard: Human Hive
3) Zyrden: University of Planet
4) Liqourish: Morgan Industries
5) riadsala: Spartan Federation
6) Giaddon: The Lord's Believers
7) The Innocent: Peacekeeping Forces

I've updated the first post to reflect this.

Lukasz
10-09-2011, 12:37 PM
right.

I just done my first turn. sorry but had no time to even turn on my gaming computer yesterday. Save is in dropbox named as 9-9. but probably should rename it as from Lukasz so Lizard will know its his turn.
Hopefully i did it right (I pressed save and exit after my turn was done)

I kept the old save on my computer just in case but should i delete the old one from drop box?

riadsala
10-09-2011, 01:13 PM
probably makes sense to keep all the old turns on dropbox... (unless they start taking up too much space).

Lukasz
10-09-2011, 01:58 PM
probably makes sense to keep all the old turns on dropbox... (unless they start taking up too much space).

extra folder for old saves? each with date and number as

10-09-01-Gaia
so 10th of september save first last turn was by gaia's daughters. seven turns later if it is the same day still
10-09-02-Gaia

Zyrden
10-09-2011, 03:17 PM
Then just add turn number if there are multiple saves on one day
10-09-01-Gaia-turn-13
10-09-01-Gaia-turn-14

Johnny Lizard
10-09-2011, 10:21 PM
Right, technical probs sorted, turn taken and placed new file in folder with my faction name on it. Hopefully all should be ok.

Zyrden
10-09-2011, 11:21 PM
Turn done. My game froze up when I was quitting, let me know if there's something wrong with the save

Liqourish
11-09-2011, 01:43 AM
Turn taken.

Lukasz
11-09-2011, 11:24 AM
so mister lizard. on your first turn?

riadsala
11-09-2011, 12:32 PM
Turn taken.

Giaddon
11-09-2011, 03:04 PM
Turn taken.

Let's all assume Mr. Lizard had technical issues and move forward in a spirit of camaraderie and friendship... for now.

Johnny Lizard
11-09-2011, 06:06 PM
What Giaddon said.

Lukasz
11-09-2011, 08:38 PM
just done my turn. its gong pretty smooth.

Giaddon
11-09-2011, 08:44 PM
Wait, did The Innocent take his turn?

Zyrden
11-09-2011, 10:10 PM
Yeah, his save is in the Past turns folder

Johnny Lizard
11-09-2011, 10:12 PM
Just to explain the problem I had, I lost the save file and had to play the turn again. And again. Turned out Windows 7 is tricking Alpha Centauri into hiding saves in a hidden folder somewhere in the depths of the Documents folder instead of the Program Files folder where it thinks it's putting them. I think it's sorted now though.

Giaddon: Now that the Dropbox is nice and tidy we should be able to easily see who went last, so we shouldn't have to post in the thread every time we take a turn.

Giaddon
11-09-2011, 10:27 PM
Sure, just wanted to make sure that's what was happening. Feels good to be playing AC again. :D

Giaddon
12-09-2011, 07:00 PM
I'm thinking about starting a generic/narrative game diary (so as not to reveal too much about my plans!), and I was thinking about where to put it. I could dump it in this thread, but I was also thinking about starting a wordpress blog if others are interested, which we could all post to.

Anyone interested in something like that?

riadsala
12-09-2011, 07:04 PM
I'm thinking about starting a generic/narrative game diary (so as not to reveal too much about my plans!), and I was thinking about where to put it. I could dump it in this thread, but I was also thinking about starting a wordpress blog if others are interested, which we could all post to.

Anyone interested in something like that?

I've already set up a blog. Although just writing drafts for now. Don't want to give away my starting position etc. I'm happy to let you post up your stuff too if you like.

Giaddon
12-09-2011, 07:10 PM
Sure, what are the deets?

Lukasz
12-09-2011, 09:14 PM
i am writing notes. will dress them up with narrative a bit later when i have more context.

Liqourish
13-09-2011, 05:48 AM
I am also writing turnely notes, similar to what I did for the neptune's pride game.

Lukasz
15-09-2011, 10:37 AM
I must say having no save/reload mechanism makes the game scary. A single mistake so early can cost a whole game... and on Planet full of dangers its easy to make that mistake.

Liqourish
15-09-2011, 10:46 AM
I was endlessly nervous before I took my third turn. Turned out I had actions from the previous turn and had no moves to make.

:|

riadsala
15-09-2011, 10:48 AM
I must say having no save/reload mechanism makes the game scary. A single mistake so early can cost a whole game... and on Planet full of dangers its easy to make that mistake.


tell me about it. I'm loving it though. Makes me realise how much I "cheat" in single player strategy games.

Zyrden
15-09-2011, 01:09 PM
Curious, I always enable Iron Man(Save/load only on exit) when playing single player. I generally dislike going for a "perfect" play. Not having to worry about making mistakes makes a games more boring imo.

Lukasz
15-09-2011, 07:01 PM
Curious, I always enable Iron Man(Save/load only on exit) when playing single player. I generally dislike going for a "perfect" play. Not having to worry about making mistakes makes a games more boring imo.

which means you have an advantage over us cause you know what risks you can take and what should not be done if you can not spam load.

Zyrden
16-09-2011, 08:04 AM
Keep in mind that it's been years since I played last though, so that advantage probably won't matter as much as lack of memory does :P

Liqourish
18-09-2011, 08:24 AM
I'm terribly embarrassed, I was wondering why it was taking so long for my turn to come around, when I noticed that it already had!

riadsala
26-09-2011, 05:41 PM
Zyrden, everything ok? The game tells me you have been saving and reloading your turn several times.

Zyrden
26-09-2011, 06:21 PM
Strange, as I did not. How many times? I got a message saying TheInnocent took 2 turns, so maybe it carried over? I also went back some time ago to get some more screenshots, and there I did reload many times, since i couldn't get on that damn fungus to recreate my turn. But that was turn 4 or so.

riadsala
26-09-2011, 07:39 PM
Strange, as I did not. How many times? I got a message saying TheInnocent took 2 turns, so maybe it carried over? I also went back some time ago to get some more screenshots, and there I did reload many times, since i couldn't get on that damn fungus to recreate my turn. But that was turn 4 or so.


ah, my apologise. I gor University and UN mixed up. I am stupid sometimes.

So, let me try again:

The Innocent, everything ok? The game tells me you have been saving and reloading your turn several times.

The Innocent
26-09-2011, 08:06 PM
Yeah, things are fine now. The last batch of turns had a problem for some reason and only loaded on my third try, after warning me that others would be notified. The first turn I turned in didn't work. I have no idea what was going wrong, since I just kept doing the same thing until it worked.

Lukasz
27-09-2011, 08:32 AM
Strange, as I did not. How many times? I got a message saying TheInnocent took 2 turns, so maybe it carried over? I also went back some time ago to get some more screenshots, and there I did reload many times, since i couldn't get on that damn fungus to recreate my turn. But that was turn 4 or so.

How do you take screenshots? printscreen does not work for me

Giaddon
27-09-2011, 12:45 PM
Funny, printscreen works for me.

Try opening it via Steam and using the Steam screenshot button (F12).

Zyrden
27-09-2011, 01:24 PM
Printscreen is what I used. You can't use default steam though, since f12 in-game is comms, so change it in steam settings. Couldn't find any way to change the keys for AC :/

riadsala
27-09-2011, 01:47 PM
printscreen works for me, but alt-tab doesn't. so saving the screenshots is a bit tricky!

Lukasz
27-09-2011, 02:57 PM
mhmm. weird. maybe i pressed it wrong.

Lukasz
10-10-2011, 11:18 PM
bump
anyone has contact with Zyrden? it had been 4 days already.

riadsala
11-10-2011, 09:01 AM
bump
anyone has contact with Zyrden? it had been 4 days already.

He's been about. I'm guessing he just forgot to check for a few days. I'll try and remember to remind him on steam :)

Zyrden
11-10-2011, 02:10 PM
I just uploaded. Last couple of days have been a little weird for me, so it wasn't exactly my top priority.

Lukasz
11-10-2011, 06:31 PM
I just uploaded. Last couple of days have been a little weird for me, so it wasn't exactly my top priority.
we missed you

Zyrden
12-10-2011, 06:14 PM
Awww <3
Looks like the mindworms missed me too *sigh*

Lukasz
13-10-2011, 11:21 PM
*done my turn and*
Not good. Not good at all...

riadsala
21-10-2011, 11:19 AM
People, I was wondering if it would be a good idea to find an hour sometime when we're all free and attempt to rattle through a few shots. We're managing around 1 game year per week. I reckon we could easy get a month's worth of turns done in an hour :)

Zyrden
21-10-2011, 06:15 PM
Sounds like a fine idea. I have no idea what my original plan was, since it's been so long since I thought of it. At this rate we won't be done before summer next year.

The Innocent
21-10-2011, 06:41 PM
It'd be worth trying. I have trouble aligning my online times with the Brits though. But I would be willing to try!

riadsala
21-10-2011, 07:11 PM
Well how about an hour or two next weekend? it's not like we all need to be around continuously... we just need everybody to be on the lookout for turns and steam message/email the next person in the queue :)

Lukasz
22-10-2011, 01:29 PM
im available every night (europe time) except fridays. so fine by me.

we are still doing better than the other group :)

The Innocent
22-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Sure, I can try to be on for a couple of hours next weekend. What times are we thinking?

Lukasz
31-10-2011, 10:38 AM
so what about this saturday 8pm British time?
we can use steam chat as instantmgs so it will be easy to communicate.

riadsala
08-11-2011, 05:17 PM
Liqourish, it's your turn!

Lukasz
08-11-2011, 07:43 PM
Liqourish, it's your turn!

yeah. I pmed him but no answer :(

Lukasz
10-11-2011, 01:19 PM
well.. it has been a week already and no answer. yet he is alive as he posts here on RPS...

riadsala
10-11-2011, 01:34 PM
well.. it has been a week already and no answer. yet he is alive as he posts here on RPS...

Is he on steam? Does anybody have his email address?

Lukasz
12-11-2011, 10:44 AM
Is he on steam? Does anybody have his email address?
I don't.

It has been over a week. Since he is not responding I'll say we skip his turn and continue the game.

Lukasz
12-11-2011, 10:46 AM
Is he on steam? Does anybody have his email address?
I don't.

It has been over a week. Since he is not responding I'll say we skip his turn and continue the game.

riadsala
12-11-2011, 10:58 AM
or swap a new player in?

Lukasz
12-11-2011, 11:42 AM
or swap a new player in?
do you know the password or how to reset it?
and you cannot skip turns anyway at least from what I can see. :(

Lukasz
21-11-2011, 02:19 PM
I had quite fun even tough we never got into a conflict with each other (i didn't at least). shame it ended so early. We should have our passwords stored somewhere else.

Liqourish
30-11-2011, 11:55 AM
Oh god oh god oh god.

Taking my turn now.

I feel terrible.

edit: took my turn.
I'm Liqourish on steam (and in the RPS group)

riadsala
30-11-2011, 01:03 PM
Ah, cool.

My turn then.... I'll do it shortly. I think we need a system in which each player notifies the next player.

Johnny Lizard
30-11-2011, 06:34 PM
Yay, we're back!

Giaddon
02-12-2011, 06:32 PM
Ha ha ha, I thought this was dead for sure. This rules.

Lukasz
02-12-2011, 09:15 PM
sorry. I had to redo my turn as i think it didn't save first time.

Giaddon
10-01-2012, 07:03 PM
Amazing that we keep trucking away...

I was wondering: are people getting the messages I try to send in game? I haven't heard anything back, and I want to make sure people can read them.

Heliocentric
10-01-2012, 10:04 PM
Hi, i forgot but I re-bought this on gog, if you guys want another player i am ready and willing.

The Innocent
10-01-2012, 10:52 PM
I was wondering: are people getting the messages I try to send in game? I haven't heard anything back, and I want to make sure people can read them.

Well, I haven't received any messages.

riadsala
11-01-2012, 09:50 AM
Well, I haven't received any messages.

me neither :(

Lukasz
11-01-2012, 10:17 AM
nope here either. how do you check it tough? Is there some inbox?

Giaddon
11-01-2012, 02:54 PM
I was hoping there would be an "alert" or something... I've been sending them through the diplomacy screen; it's possible they don't go through unless you actually send a negotiation or something.

I'll post my message here, as it applies to everybody:

STAY. OUT. OF THE BELIEVER'S TERRITORY. ♰

Lukasz
11-01-2012, 10:41 PM
...
that's a message for me isn't it :)

Zyrden
12-01-2012, 01:53 PM
I haven't gotten any messages either. And I think it's too late now. Besides, I'll just move your borders a bit, you won't mind right?

Liqourish
12-01-2012, 07:45 PM
I believe in-game messaging is sadly broken for PBEM.

Lukasz
20-02-2012, 07:06 PM
Bump
Giaddon it is your turn mate!

Giaddon
21-02-2012, 02:44 PM
I am SOOOO sorry! My computer got put out of commission for a bit, but I have it going again now and I will submit my turn ASAP (tonight or tomorrow morning)

Lukasz
23-02-2012, 05:55 PM
I will not be able to play after fifth of march for i am moving to another country. not sure when i regain that ability so I need to give up my faction.

anyone interested to take over?

Lukasz
09-03-2012, 10:43 PM
a reminder that i am not able to play AC at this moment. Anyone wants to take over?

Johnny Lizard
11-03-2012, 12:06 AM
Also SORRY!!! Like Giaddon, my computer exploded. This game must be cursed.

The Innocent
28-03-2012, 06:08 AM
Sounds like this game is indeed cursed... are we going to continue? I'm fine waiting if someone has PC problems or whatnot, but it's been a while now. If there isn't interest, I see little point in continuing.

Liqourish
28-03-2012, 04:46 PM
There's not much we can do from here, anyway, other than wait it out.

X_kot
28-03-2012, 07:54 PM
I don't mean to be a vulture, but if you do end up starting a new game, I'd be interested in joining.

Heliocentric
28-03-2012, 08:45 PM
Same, preferred side is the Spartans.

Lukasz
29-03-2012, 03:50 AM
so game ended because of me? so sorry. :( but yeah. don't have access to computer on which i can play AC.
or someone can take over my faction. it is not doing any worse than everyone else :)

The Innocent
29-03-2012, 04:43 AM
Oh no, it hasn't ended yet! That's why I'm asking. Sorry to hear about your computer.

@X_kot, Heliocentric

Would either of you be interested in taking over Lukasz's spot? The game really hasn't been going all that long. I doubt (hope?) that anyone has more than one or two techs researched, and a few things built, so it would probably be like jumping straight into a game without the samey first turns.

X_kot
29-03-2012, 03:57 PM
Sure, I'd be willing to jump in for Lukasz if no one objects.

Heliocentric
29-03-2012, 04:16 PM
I'll happily be a standby then

Lukasz
29-03-2012, 04:24 PM
should i pm him my pass then?

and you need a dosbox x_kot

X_kot
29-03-2012, 05:56 PM
Hmm...I do have dosbox, but do you perhaps mean dropbox (which I also have)?

The Innocent
29-03-2012, 06:23 PM
Cool, just PM me when you're ready, X_kot (and pass along an email), and I'll add you to the DropBox folder.

Sorry about your PC again, Lukasz. That's a bummer. Even though I'm glad we've figured out a way to get this game going again, you'll be missed.

Lukasz
30-03-2012, 02:42 AM
thx. Im bummed too. can't play anything except flash games at the moment.

and pass sent x_kot.

X_kot
31-03-2012, 03:04 AM
All right, set up and ready to go. Looks like it's Liquorish's turn?

Lukasz
06-04-2012, 12:16 PM
so who is holding the game then?

The Innocent
06-04-2012, 06:55 PM
I think Liquorish is.

Liqourish
08-04-2012, 11:12 PM
Holy hell my turn came around! I must have missed the dropbox notification, I will quickly correct this error.

I'm glad things seem to be moving on again.

riadsala
09-04-2012, 10:55 AM
and that's my turn done :)

X_kot
24-04-2012, 03:57 PM
Yoohoo...Giaddon? You still with us?

Lukasz
15-05-2012, 08:00 AM
so is the game on?

Zyrden
15-05-2012, 02:04 PM
Dunno whose turn it is, but I'm still in.

X_kot
15-05-2012, 03:34 PM
Pretty sure it's been Giaddon's turn since last month. :(

The Innocent
15-05-2012, 06:07 PM
Yup. Has anyone messaged him?

X_kot
17-05-2012, 09:15 PM
Message sent, but no response yet.

The Innocent
18-05-2012, 04:52 PM
Well, what the hell. If this game is unsalvageable, sorry to have wasted your time, X_kot.

X_kot
18-05-2012, 06:05 PM
No worries...another time, perhaps.

Lukasz
23-05-2012, 05:07 PM
Giaddon appeared. did he take his turn?