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jp0249107
03-09-2011, 08:26 PM
Dear History Channel,

I can deal with Pawn Stars, I can deal with American Pickers, and I can even deal with reruns of 5 year-old Modern Marvels. At least those shows are slightly historical. But you simply must stop airing shows about aliens with the crazy hair guy from "Alien Fetish Monthly". His logic rivals the "I told you so" theory of parenting, and he makes me wonder if the Mayans predicted the end of the world to occur next year because they wanted it to be destroyed before people started to take him seriously.

Just....stop it.

Nalano
03-09-2011, 08:54 PM
The Learning Channel, 'SyFy' (sigh) and Discovery Channel are similarly plagued with concentrated forms of stupidity. The worst, in my opinion, are the endless "ghost" shows. If it's not shows where the host/narrator's stupidity is treated with the utmost seriousness, it's shows where the premise is "look how stupid these people are!"

And to think, saying you don't watch this shit labels you a smug elitist in most parts. What the fuck is wrong with us.

TillEulenspiegel
03-09-2011, 09:22 PM
Remember when it was The Hitler Channel? Happy days.

History is interesting, you fuckers. Get a few good professors, and you can make some quality programs.

westyfield
03-09-2011, 09:35 PM
The Learning Channel, 'SyFy' (sigh) and Discovery Channel are similarly plagued with concentrated forms of stupidity.

More like Sigh-Fy, amirite?

(Sorry.)

Xercies
03-09-2011, 09:36 PM
Yes History is pretty interesting, like a lot. Other channels have found this like the BBC, remember Dan Snows Battles of 20th century that was a great and interesting series. You just seem to talk about WW2 all the time with the same things we know about. And now your not even trying with Ice Road Truckers and the like.

Nalano
03-09-2011, 11:05 PM
Yes History is pretty interesting, like a lot. Other channels have found this like the BBC, remember Dan Snows Battles of 20th century that was a great and interesting series. You just seem to talk about WW2 all the time with the same things we know about. And now your not even trying with Ice Road Truckers and the like.

Well, WW2 was the last war we won, so...

But seriously, even when they actually have history programs on the History Channel, they supplant it with so much B-grade dramatization and wild supposition as to render it practically unwatchable.

Oak
03-09-2011, 11:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/FQpJq.jpg

Nalano
04-09-2011, 12:19 AM
Pauly Shore is... a historian!

Kaira-
04-09-2011, 12:30 AM
Remember when it was The Hitler Channel? Happy days.

History is interesting, you fuckers. Get a few good professors, and you can make some quality programs.

I remember watching History Channel at my girlfriend's mother's home. I really liked all those history shows. Then recently I thought about ordering History Channel and Discovery, only to discover that they both are... erm, a bit shitty, to say.

icupnimpn2
04-09-2011, 02:26 AM
Pauly Shore is... a historian!

Well yeah. I think he earned that cred with Encino Man.

Skalpadda
04-09-2011, 02:50 AM
I was thinking about this very thing the other day, trying to find some interesting science and nature documentaries to watch. Turns out every American one I had a look at was either obsessing over stupidity or was in fact not a documentary about science at all but a reality TV show about making the documentary I thought I was going to see.

I ended up watching First Life and it was great. Thank god David Attenborough and the Big British Castle still exist.

Anthile
04-09-2011, 08:58 AM
The Learning Channel, 'SyFy' (sigh) and Discovery Channel are similarly plagued with concentrated forms of stupidity. The worst, in my opinion, are the endless "ghost" shows. If it's not shows where the host/narrator's stupidity is treated with the utmost seriousness, it's shows where the premise is "look how stupid these people are!"

And to think, saying you don't watch this shit labels you a smug elitist in most parts. What the fuck is wrong with us.

What I really like about those ghost shows is that most of them, after not discovering any ghosts, try to make some "maybe, maybe not" stance by the end. One might expect they'd come to the conclusion that either ghosts don't exist or they are so elusive that looking for them is pointless. But hey, apparently people watch this garbage.

Nalano
04-09-2011, 04:31 PM
What I really like about those ghost shows is that most of them, after not discovering any ghosts, try to make some "maybe, maybe not" stance by the end. One might expect they'd come to the conclusion that either ghosts don't exist or they are so elusive that looking for them is pointless. But hey, apparently people watch this garbage.

There was one episode of Ghost Hunters I saw that was hilarious: The hunters travel to New York City to bring their incredible attention to detail and sleuthing skills to ferreting out a ghost from an old storefront theatre. Too bad their sixth senses don't work on the realm of the living, for they don't notice a random guy on the street walking off with their luggage.

archonsod
04-09-2011, 06:21 PM
And to think, saying you don't watch this shit labels you a smug elitist in most parts. What the fuck is wrong with us.

Pfft, if Elitism is such a bad thing they wouldn't run armies on it.

Personally I think decent TV pretty much died circa 2000.

jp0249107
04-09-2011, 06:26 PM
I've basically given up on television. While I will watch some football or catch up on the news, everything else is utter crap.

On the other hand, it's gotten so bad that my wife no longer wants to watch regular tv, and I've gotten her hooked on Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. Neither of us really like excessively "japanese" things (and from what I've watched most anime is under that category), but DAMN that show is good. Reminds me of my depressed teenager phase when I was younger and watching the original anime on Adult Swim. Plus it's good to watch a show that advocates good and righteousness and all that nonsense the rest of world has thrown to the wayside in favor of "gritty realism". Life is a bitch, I don't want to watch a dramatization of it.

QuantaCat
04-09-2011, 06:57 PM
Dont have a TV, watch a lot of series, though. Just caught up with One Piece.

Nalano
04-09-2011, 07:18 PM
Well yeah. I think he earned that cred with Encino Man.

*cry*

10char

Drake Sigar
04-09-2011, 09:12 PM
Guess they’re going after the young money just like everyone else, despite how little sense it makes. Thank god the old folks still have Challenge TV and UK Gold (incidentally, those are among my favourite channels) or they’d take to the streets and spark a revolution.

Wooly Wugga Wugga
06-09-2011, 08:36 PM
What pisses me off are all the nature documentaries that seem to have taken up the mantle from Steve Irwin. Every second program on the National Geographic or Discovery channel is some yahoo wrestling with some poor bloody animal all in the name of conservation. Hey folks! If you're going to teach conservation how about starting with the lesson that we should leave the bloody wildlife alone! I miss the days when nature documentaries were about observing animal behaviour, not yokel behaviour.

Sorry, a bit off topic but jeez is this becoming a bugbear of mine.

Anthile
06-09-2011, 09:07 PM
What pisses me off are all the nature documentaries that seem to have taken up the mantle from Steve Irwin. Every second program on the National Geographic or Discovery channel is some yahoo wrestling with some poor bloody animal all in the name of conservation. Hey folks! If you're going to teach conservation how about starting with the lesson that we should leave the bloody wildlife alone! I miss the days when nature documentaries were about observing animal behaviour, not yokel behaviour.

Sorry, a bit off topic but jeez is this becoming a bugbear of mine.

You should watch Grizzly Man.

Jorum
10-09-2011, 09:59 PM
What pisses me off are all the nature documentaries that seem to have taken up the mantle from Steve Irwin. Every second program on the National Geographic or Discovery channel is some yahoo wrestling with some poor bloody animal all in the name of conservation. Hey folks! If you're going to teach conservation how about starting with the lesson that we should leave the bloody wildlife alone! I miss the days when nature documentaries were about observing animal behaviour, not yokel behaviour.


Sorry, a bit off topic but jeez is this becoming a bugbear of mine.

I'm with you on that. What they all forget (or deliberately avoid) is that Irwin wasn't doing it out of bravado or for exciting TV.
"wrestling" an alligator is actually the best way of capturing and handling it.
They have a perculiarly bad reaction to anathestics and associated stress, so tranquiliser darting them as you would for most big animals is bad idea.
What he was doing was moving "problem animals" away before they got shot, and doing it in the least harmful way (for them).

Capt. Eduardo del Mango
15-09-2011, 11:07 PM
BBC 4 remains undoubtedly the best (only) place to watch history documentaries on British TV. The current series of programs on the Regency by posh-can't-pronounce-her-Rs-lady is superb, as are any of the three-parters they do on the history of science (especially Jim Al-Khalili) and the history of art. They get hold of an actual expert - somebody who's head of his or her department at somewhere reputable - and let them write and present it. You actually get some real insight, some genuine lessons to learn - the concepts and understanding you can actually take away from looking at a period - whereas the history channel, even when it is being 'historical', is almost invariably a string of talking heads fetishising a bygone period.

Xercies
15-09-2011, 11:39 PM
Actually I agree with that and add further that its not just History that BBC 4 excels at, it actually puts a lot of decent science and other programs on there. And shows the non dumbed down episodes of Horizon still(Truly what happened to that series because it is pretty bad now a days)

Jorum
15-09-2011, 11:43 PM
I gave up on Horizon when it reached the point where one hour of horizon told me the same as a 5 paragraph item in New Scientist I can read in minutes.
They just repeat the same 10 minutes of information over and over and over again in case the audience are thick or not paying attention.

jp0249107
16-09-2011, 12:57 PM
I guess all of this is a testament to why streaming content like Hulu or Netflix will become the way we watch TV. Yeah the incessant commercials on cable or even network TV are annoying, but the real reason I use the Internet for my television is because I can't find anything good to watch just flipping channels. Convergence is the future!

Xercies
16-09-2011, 01:42 PM
They just repeat the same 10 minutes of information over and over and over again in case the audience are thick or not paying attention.

Yes and the information they do give you is at the shallow pool end of the subject they are talking about. I don't mind that but I would like as the hour goes along to get something a bit more meaty. Instead of something I could have learnt from wikipedia in 5 minutes or soemthing I already know.


but the real reason I use the Internet for my television is because I can't find anything good to watch just flipping channels. Convergence is the future!

A thousand times this. I could be just happy without a TV and just have a laptop, every program is one there whether legal or illegally and I don't have to fit the time to watch it to some arbitary time a channel has decided to play on.

Nalano
16-09-2011, 02:13 PM
If the Daily Show went live online the same day it went live on TV, I'd have no reason to have a TV.

Okay, okay, to watch the Yankees, but that's it.