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Heliocentric
18-09-2011, 11:40 PM
Serious, I am in love with this game. Its real time, but you don't aim. The skills needed are judgement, timing, planning and style. This is in no way a twich game, patience is a real virtue here I'm Heliocentric85 on the ubiservers.

Cue video which makes the game look terrifying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0UzsaeARSs&feature=related

I actually meant to post this in "Game Clubs And General Sociability Ok"

JohnnyK
19-09-2011, 08:01 AM
I played the hell out of it, but it got increasingly hard to find games. Is it more active again?

Heliocentric
19-09-2011, 08:48 AM
I play ranked on the evenings in the UK and match making is usually less than a minute, but if RPS had a group that would certainly help.

JohnnyK
19-09-2011, 09:23 AM
Hm, might have to try again. I almost exclusively played Assassinate though - which gamemode(s) are you playing?

QuantaCat
19-09-2011, 10:21 AM
!!! I loved the multiplayer, but then my computer blew up and I didnt reinstall..

Heliocentric
19-09-2011, 10:55 AM
Ooh, I'll have to read up on the game modes, ranked often defaults to wanted, which I like because it difficulty scales (do well get hunted by lots, do badly don't get hunted, in the middle you might only have one after you but you'll be competing for your prey).

ntw
19-09-2011, 10:59 AM
well, that video was confusing.

Heliocentric
19-09-2011, 11:02 AM
well, that video was confusing.
But will it blend? Wait, no! What I mean is, did you like?

ntw
19-09-2011, 11:27 AM
I don't know - I'm still trying to figure out wtf was happening. :)

I think, having long been a fan of the 'original' assassination 'game' (hunted on TFC), I like the idea. Also the asymmetric nature of the game is good. But the player seemed to be earning xp somehow - what was going on there, I didn't see him do anything...Also once spotted it seemed very difficult to evade your pursuer.

But yeah, I think it looked good. I liked the "cyberspace" style thing going on as well.

sinomatic
19-09-2011, 11:33 AM
I, also, didn't have a bloody clue what was going on there. Other than there being hunters and prey (and maybe everyone is both?). How do you know who you are hunting?

I've played AssCreed I and II, so I understand the blending/hiding mechanics, but not really how it works in multiplayer.

JohnnyK
19-09-2011, 12:01 PM
Assassinate is FFA - everyone hunts everyone. You have a radar that shows you the proximity of other players but not what they look like, so you have to watch out for suspicious behaviour and then strike. The numbers indicate the score for the kill - the more variety you put in and the stealthier you do it (prey doesn't spot you, you don't run etc.) the higher the score.

Wanted gives you a contract - a specific player you need to hunt, and you know what the character looks like. You are also hunted (by 1 player at the start; do well, and more players are after you at once).

There are abilities (like smokebombs, a gun, charge etc.) and perks (passive abilities like Blender, which transform one guy in the group you stand in to look like you) as you level up.

There are 3 or 4 more gamemodes as well as team modes.

ntw
19-09-2011, 12:07 PM
it looked in the video like it was team based, with (AFAICT) the teams taking it in turns to hunt and be hunted. From what I could see the hunters were able to cycle through the prey to select the target they wanted to hunt, with the radar giving an approximate location, but not the appearance.

I was more mystified by the way the player seemed to start as the prey and very quickly level up to 3 without actually seeming to do anything.

sinomatic
19-09-2011, 12:10 PM
Assassinate works like a much more manic Spy Party then? Interesting. I presume/hope the npcs are random and varied enough in their behaviour to make it harder to spot players?

(Also, I had totally forgotten about Spy Party. Wonder what's happening with that these days).

JohnnyK
19-09-2011, 12:29 PM
@ntw - didn't watch that particular video. In modes where you have a contract, you can drop that, but it takes a bit before you get a new one. In Team-modes you can cycle between the members of the opposing team(s)

@sino - the NPCs are varied; they walk in groups, might turn around, might stop at another group etc.

ntw
19-09-2011, 12:34 PM
@ntw - didn't watch that particular video. In modes where you have a contract, you can drop that, but it takes a bit before you get a new one. In Team-modes you can cycle between the members of the opposing team(s)...{snip}

well it was the video in the OP :)

JohnnyK
19-09-2011, 01:04 PM
Yeah, but I can't be arsed ;-)

Just kidding - just wanted to give a general overview of the game.

Heliocentric
19-09-2011, 01:36 PM
To resolve some mystery, leveling up happens over multiple matches in the style of Call of Duty. Your prey is apparent in various game modes in different ways. Sometimes you have a general direction radar circle which is useless at close range, but it confirms if you have line of sight, sometimes you had a picture in the top right identifying your target or sometimes all you have to guide you is keeping your eye open for suspicious behaviour.

Some game modes are true free for all with all the bottom feeding that entails, some game modes are team play and some (wanted) have some lovely scaling which creates a gradient, when you are massacring like KGB assassin everyone wants you dead, but when you n00b it up you'll get some peace.

ntw
19-09-2011, 02:39 PM
See, I like the 'anti-kingmaker' aspects of that. More games should do it.

JohnnyK
19-09-2011, 03:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20QBe43tyVM

KarpaDyem
19-09-2011, 04:01 PM
Tried this for the first time the other day, even though I'm not a big multiplayer guy. So far, I'm really impressed with it. It's a nice change of pace because it requires you to be slow and measured in your approach, as opposed to frantically shooting at everything that moves (looking at you, COD!)

I've just started, so I don't have many of the skills yet, but they seem really interesting so far. I used the disguise ability when I was being pursued by rounding a corner and turning it on, and watched my pursuer run by me. And stabbing someone in the face who's just sitting on a bench when they're not expecting...that's just good times right there.

Heliocentric
19-09-2011, 04:49 PM
Tried this for the first time the other day

It's insane how many people will never touch the multiplayer because of the fear, what should have happened should have. been some sort of "the crossing" style multi-singleplayer merge.

KarpaDyem
19-09-2011, 05:07 PM
It's insane how many people will never touch the multiplayer because of the fear, what should have happened should have. been some sort of "the crossing" style multi-singleplayer merge.


It's funny, I tried to pick up single-player after playing a couple MP matches and it had lost some of its luster. Still entertaining, but MP adopts the AssCreed mechanics very nicely.

Whereas in SP I freely will run across rooftops (in fact, that's a huge appeal for SP), in MP I would avoid that like the plague. Constantly scared of tipping my hand, as it should if I was hunting a prey that's looking for death in the shadows. Cool stuff.

vinraith
19-09-2011, 05:15 PM
I'll definitely play with you again Helio, I've just got to find a moment between the three projects I'm working on right now to come up for air long enough to do it. And of course that moment has to coincide with you being around. Pesky time zones.

As a side note, I've been having a bitch of a time getting into a game on regular North American hours.

JohnnyK
19-09-2011, 05:42 PM
Just as a note, my uplay name is JohnnyK77. Not sure how much time I will have to play, want to get into Dead Island a bit, but I'd still like to get stabbed by friendly people like you lot.

Heliocentric
19-09-2011, 05:50 PM
Agile hunting can still be stealthy, people stood on the roof get spotted but dangling off an edge or tucked beside a chimney can still get you a good 600 point kill. But actually chasing someone across rooftops will likely net you 100 to 200 points assuming you don't get interrupted by a sneaky hunter and net the hunter near 1000.

Since kills matter less than points, finesse is paramount. But if you get chased and you know your target is out of sight you can kill 2 birds with one stone by fleeing across roofs to your target you will escape/expose your hunter and close on your target. Still, get a contract who is running about like an ADHD toddler on the roof, peg them with a throwing knife and hobble them then just before they start again peg they with a long long charged assassination, it will be much more subtle when you've had then in your sights and let the target reticule charge up and you'll get a hefty score for your efforts.

KarpaDyem
19-09-2011, 07:25 PM
As a side note, I've been having a bitch of a time getting into a game on regular North American hours.

I'm on the East Coast, and I haven't had a problem yet. Get a game in less than a minute. But that's only been the last few days, can't attest to what it was before that.

Berzee
19-09-2011, 08:11 PM
a video

I am glad to see someone posting this. :D It's the BEST THING.

Bobtree
19-09-2011, 10:29 PM
Thanks for talking us all into trying this out. I laughed, I cried, I cursed, I sweated bullets. It's like assassination improv theater. All I played was Wanted mode (up to level 12 now), and it's enormously more interesting and satisfying than the single player was (collection-ism, ugh). Definitely go for kill quality over quantity!

Heliocentric
19-09-2011, 10:47 PM
Bobtree, whats the username?

Bobtree
19-09-2011, 10:54 PM
Bobtree2. It's the old "how many games of publisher X have you previously played online" usernames problem (I'm up to Bobtree4 for the Battlefield/Gamespy set IIRC). I'm US East too, but I'll try to add you.

I also recommend that anyone interesting in picking up AC:Brotherhood (or anything else), avoid the Ubishop like the plague. No matter what kind of discount or incentive they offer you, the potential support nightmare isn't worth the risk. Trust me on this one.

Anybody know how to get ACB to keep your gamepad selected? I have to go through the control options to pick it every time, in SP and MP both.

Heliocentric
20-09-2011, 12:40 AM
Anybody know how to get ACB to keep your gamepad selected? I have to go through the control options to pick it every time, in SP and MP both.

I just have it plugged in when i start and make sure its always plugged in when the games running (ever having it unplugged seems to set keyboard)

Bobtree
21-09-2011, 05:42 PM
I use a DualShock2 with PSX-USB adapter from Radioshack, and ACB refuses to keep it selected. Presumably it does the right thing for x360 pads. I hate that MS has shoved Xinput down our throats and left all the other game devices that use DirectInput out to rot.

I'm close to 9 hours in ACB multi now, and I'm scoring mid-range pretty consistently, but am usually beaten by those with the Poison ability because of the bonuses they get and the fact that they don't have to expose themselves to kill. I love the throwing knife that slows players down, and prefer abilities that can be used on both offense and defense (some are quite clever).

Scoring well is very dependent on knowing when to be a devious bastard and when to run around and climb like a jerk (and the ratio of these varies a lot between maps). I play very little defense, but if you can force your pursuer to settle for 100pt kills and expose themselves, it may be a good idea when you have 2-3 players after you. Sometimes the kill/counter precedence drives me crazy, but that's down to split second timing and lag (especially with smoke bombs), and if you know who your pursuer is you should stay hidden or run if exposed instead of trying to stun. Some players are extremely good at spotting your approach and can see fast-walking a mile off.

I avoid playing the characters that are super easy to identify, like the Doctor with his super-nose mask and triangular hat. A couple are hard to ID by default though (man in brown with a head-wrap), and some very good players use easily seen models regardless (the unlockable Thief with her unique hair seems popular). My biggest annoyance is the dark blue and muddy night lighting on some of the maps, and the 2d pre-rendered character portraits that don't always match player-customized character appearances, both of which make identifying targets unnecessarily difficult.

My best round by far (4300 points IIRC and first place) was on the map with a large centrally-elevated Church and crowed plaza, where I hid out (usually by the corners) and repeatedly intercepted running targets. Staying in a busy zone when you're ahead is great because your target is very likely to be chasing one of your pursuers.

JohnnyK
21-09-2011, 06:07 PM
I'm close to 9 hours in ACB multi now, and I'm scoring mid-range pretty consistently, but am usually beaten by those with the Poison ability because of the bonuses they get and the fact that they don't have to expose themselves to kill. I love the throwing knife that slows players down, and prefer abilities that can be used on both offense and defense (some are quite clever).
In which gamemode? In Wanted Poison is not that great due to the long CD and it's purely offensive nature, you are often better off with Charge or Mute (Smoke is a given for me in any setup).
In Assassinate Poison is a good choice IMHO, but it also depends on your playstyle.

One tip for beginners - Stun range is much closer than Kill range. That means if you smoke an attacker, move all the way up to him to be able to stun. This drove me crazy in the beginning.

Heliocentric
21-09-2011, 08:54 PM
Poison is OP and useless in different modes. Anything team based its fine as i neutralises the player without them (or their team) knowing, its awesome in assassinate, but with 3 people tracking the leader poison isn't much use (great for the leader though).

Personally I'm in love with morph, I just morph and walk away sometimes, especially travelling groups, but morph and disguise can lead to some awesome situations where all 3 of your 3 hunters get the wrong targets. But i stick to morph and smoke for versatility, I'm sure that will change as i unlock more.

Bobtree
21-09-2011, 10:31 PM
I've been playing Wanted almost exclusively (and some Advanced Wanted with Helio), but this is due to the Matchmaker we're stuck with. Lets gripe about that for a minute!

Why can't I search for ANY of multiple modes or regardless of player/ranked setting, and why must the "play now" player-match search pick a mode BEFORE trying to find a match? Sometimes I just want any match right away! Why isn't there a rotating-modes playlist option? Also it should let you fiddle with customizations or browse the bonuses/challenges/etc while it searches.

The lack of in-game chat also stinks, and nobody else seems to be on voice. It's terribly ungainly to use the friends message system, especially while playing (though maybe d-pad down is a shortcut to it).

DOW2 Retribution is like this too, where there are 7 or so MP modes but you have to pick one to search for without any prior idea of their populations, so I end up only playing the most popular stuff all the time, but at least there you have a custom games browser. The Retribution FFA's are great, but good luck trying to find a game of it by auto-matching.

By far one of my most common complaints with recent multiplayer games is the amount of downtime due to these setups. When I get anything half decent going with these, I'm likely to keep playing as long as I can manage.

Heliocentric
21-09-2011, 11:45 PM
I've been playing Wanted almost exclusively (and some Advanced Wanted with Helio), but this is due to the Matchmaker we're stuck with. Lets gripe about that for a minute!

Why can't I search for ANY of multiple modes or regardless of player/ranked setting, and why must the "play now" player-match search pick a mode BEFORE trying to find a match? Sometimes I just want any match right away! Why isn't there a rotating-modes playlist option? Also it should let you fiddle with customizations or browse the bonuses/challenges/etc while it searches.

The lack of in-game chat also stinks, and nobody else seems to be on voice. It's terribly ungainly to use the friends message system, especially while playing (though maybe d-pad down is a shortcut to it).

DOW2 Retribution is like this too, where there are 7 or so MP modes but you have to pick one to search for without any prior idea of their populations, so I end up only playing the most popular stuff all the time, but at least there you have a custom games browser. The Retribution FFA's are great, but good luck trying to find a game of it by auto-matching.

By far one of my most common complaints with recent multiplayer games is the amount of downtime due to these setups. When I get anything half decent going with these, I'm likely to keep playing as long as I can manage.


My only real Hope is that they sort out the flexibility of the match making for AssRev, but as I'll be buying it regardless for the SP I guess I'll just have to wait and see. I Don't expect anything to get patched in that solves our problems though. Splinter cell Conviction shares exactly the same issue, if you match in any mode you have zero indication if you re the only person in the world trying to play it or not.

Guys, if you are making an online game without massive MMO style servers that host hundreds of people have server browsers, it allows people to dodge lag, play with their friends and customise their experience.

This is the legacy of console first design, I wont even grouse about mods as the game is so unique, but really a server browser would mean dedicated servers could be done and then lag would be an article of the history books.... Ah, we can but dream.

Heliocentric
22-09-2011, 05:30 PM
Seeing as its the fashionable thing to do I was going to make a steam group.
All I can think of for a name is 'Rock, Paper, 'sassin's Creed'. Any suggestions?

JohnnyK
22-09-2011, 05:57 PM
Rock, Paper, Stabbin'?

Bobtree
22-09-2011, 06:38 PM
I don't intend to buy ACR. One was enough TBH, and the mp beta feedback is unpleasant.

I can't login to ACB at all right now, and it says to check my username & pw which is not helpful if their server is down.

The player-mode "play now" search works a little better than I thought it did, because sometimes it will join a session right away, but if there isn't an open game/group waiting it will still pick a mode and then search for something nobody is playing. One of the loading tips also suggests that you're intended to max your level before playing Ranked. The player/ranked distinction is still not terribly useful, and I agree that what it needs is rated matchmaking AND a custom games browser.

Customized profiles have a lot of goofy restrictions on renaming, and you can't even type spaces or clear the names by resetting a profile. I'm stuck using undescriptive short names with underscores and wishing I hadn't renamed anything (you can't even rename them the same thing as the defaults).

I played some Assassination mode (FFA DM) and it was ok, but the haphazard and reckless style it promotes is not as interesting or intense as Wanted, and the radar has a bunch of extra features that aren't explained. It was very common to have face to face kills that were essentially decided by coin-flip, or a dogpile of players each killing the last one who made a kill.

Vandelay
13-11-2011, 06:12 PM
Resurrect!

Just picked this up yesterday in the Gamersgate deal (still going I believe, if anyone is interested) and delved straight into the multiplayer, as I've still got to finish AssCreed 2 SP*. Only played for about 30 mins, but it is pretty awesome.

Did a Steam group ever get setup?

* As a side story, idiotic Ubisoft seem to have wiped my save game. I was playing AssCreed 2 about a year ago and got around about halfway-2/3rds of the way through when I got distracted by some other game. Coming back to it now and after doing all the updates, cloud saving has been re-enabled and it looks like it has taken me all the way back to the point I originally turned it off, probably about an hour into the game!

Creeping Death
13-11-2011, 06:26 PM
I'm curious about this as well, been having a lot of fun with the mp over the last few days... even though it has a tendancy to crash randomly after 30mins to an half... even though sp runs fine for hours oO. It would be nice to have a group of rps players to arrange games with. Would cut down on the wait times a bit

somini
13-11-2011, 07:31 PM
Yeah, now that Revelations is almost here we could form the Rock Paper Blade group to organize MP games of every AC game. Just a though...

Heliocentric
13-11-2011, 07:39 PM
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rpac

Made

somini
13-11-2011, 07:41 PM
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rpac

Made
Damn, just a few minutes after. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/RPBlade
Now we must face each other in a Deathmatch to determine the Unofficial Official AssCreed steam group.

Heliocentric
13-11-2011, 08:39 PM
Let's do it. Best of 3 games, ranked death match? I'm open to discuss your terms.

somini
13-11-2011, 08:47 PM
Let's do it. Best of 3 games, ranked death match? I'm open to discuss your terms.
Your from the UK, right? For timezone purposes. If so I'm in, just say when, starting tomorrow night. I'm an university student and this week I'm pretty much free except today. Weekends might be tricky. The winner invites the loser to be admin in the group, so that the group becomes the best possible.

ntw
13-11-2011, 09:57 PM
must...remain...strong...

OK, I've looked at my existing backlog and really cannot justify getting this until it drops in price EVEN MORE!

Vandelay
13-11-2011, 10:33 PM
I was obviously too quick in joining the group. May the dirtiest scoundrel win.

somini
13-11-2011, 10:34 PM
must...remain...strong...

OK, I've looked at my existing backlog and really cannot justify getting this until it drops in price EVEN MORE!
Amazon (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Assassins-Creed-Brotherhood-Classics-Xbox/dp/B00524UZK4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321219936&sr=8-1) has it for 7£. Not bad...

ntw
14-11-2011, 02:45 PM
Amazon (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Assassins-Creed-Brotherhood-Classics-Xbox/dp/B00524UZK4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321219936&sr=8-1) has it for 7£. Not bad...

I'm managing to stick to my unofficial rule of "if it costs the same as or less than a pint of beer, it can be added to the backlog"

oceanclub
14-11-2011, 05:44 PM
I just bought this on play.com for a lovely €6.49, so am hoping to get some MP action in too over the Xmas, if I can tear myself away from Skyrim (_when_ it arrives...)

P.

Heliocentric
15-11-2011, 02:23 AM
learned 2 things, just forget about doctors stood on the roof and that fraps and assbro dont play nice.

I lost, somini is the guvnor.

somini
15-11-2011, 03:00 AM
We now have a group! Rejoice!
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/RPSTAB
After an epic battle between me and Heliocentric,that soon will be broadcast in a YouTube near you, it was decided that a Steam Group would be formed to organize matches between RPS forumites. So here we have, a brand new group, named after JohnnyK's suggestion because it's cooler (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool).
The group will hopefully be active for both AssBro and AssRev, and maybe even Ass3(ω (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AssPull)). So if you have a copy AND want to play Ass MP (not very appropriate in the UK ,this expression) be sure to join.
Is this is now the official thread for the group or shall we create another?

Heliocentric
15-11-2011, 03:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1Js2J76N_Y this was the deciding match but i someone lost the end and the audio is synced badly... Blah, i suck at youtube.

Bobtree
16-08-2012, 06:47 PM
ACB should be $5 on the Ubi shop tomorrow, and at that price I would risk it despite my awful customer support experience after last summer's sale. Sale listing: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326821

I just got in a couple rounds without much waiting (and after disabling Uplay's new in-game overlay that conflicts with D3Doverrider and caused ACB to crash on alt-tabbing). It's worth revisiting (I skipped the sequel, and it went p2p for multi), and the sale may bring more fresh players, so now's as good a time as any. I'm going to suggest that my friends pick it up.

If anyone here wants to revisit it or get trained up a bit, we could coordinate an event. My in-game nick is Bobtree2, and iirc the in-game voice chat works decently (the laughs and curses are rather satisfying). The install is about 8.53 GB, but there's no hurry.

somini
17-08-2012, 05:38 PM
I would love to, but my Internet connection is in shambles. Only in September.

Sal Paradise
25-08-2012, 11:26 PM
Does anyone still play Brotherhood? I couldn't urge myself to buy Revelations due to the lackluster media response (and the price until recently). Brotherhood seemed so perfect, though, and I loved it to death more than once.

Last time I tried to corral two friends to play we either played an empty 3-way game or got stuck in a game with people who were ungodly skilled. I guess those are the only souls who would even want to keep playing, but if there's a better group I'm all ears.

Heliocentric
25-08-2012, 11:37 PM
Does anyone still play Brotherhood? I couldn't urge myself to buy Revelations due to the lackluster media response (and the price until recently). Brotherhood seemed so perfect, though, and I loved it to death more than once.

Last time I tried to corral two friends to play we either played an empty 3-way game or got stuck in a game with people who were ungodly skilled. I guess those are the only souls who would even want to keep playing, but if there's a better group I'm all ears.I keep it intalled but drifted from it during the whizz bang of release season. Join the group
, try and corral people in steam.

somini
27-08-2012, 12:20 PM
I'm in a middle of a period without stable internet, but I can play either Brotherhood, Revelations or AC3 in middle September.

TechnoJellyfish
24-05-2013, 11:24 AM
Thread necrophilia is the best kind of necrophilia!

As mentioned in the What are you playing ... (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?4-What-are-you-playing-at-the-moment&p=305719#post305719) thread, I'm a bit late to the party (massive understatement) that is Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood multiplayer. I finally managed to put in a few hours this week ... and I love it!

It is still very much possible to get some games going via AC:B's matchmaking, but you're restricted to the most popular game modes (mostly 'Wanted') and player population seems highest in the early evening hours. Outside of that you can easily end up starring endlessly at a depressing loading screen, however.

So, what's better than stabbing avatars with completely random names in the back? Exactly, stabbing avatars with somewhat familiar names in the back!

I'm not sure if there's enough interest left to dedicate an evening to AC:B - most gameplay modes require a minimum of 6 players, IIRC. If it turns out there's not enough demand to warrant an organized session, you may still express your interest in this very thread or, alternatively, add me on Steam (ID/in-game: 'Don_himself') to allow for some ad hoc sessions.

Heliocentric
24-05-2013, 11:40 AM
And me steam/in game Heliocentric/Heliocentric85, I'm very much out of habits so you have a good chance of stabbings.

somini
25-05-2013, 01:59 AM
Luckly I'm free this week, so I'm in. Installing it right now.
Here's the anemic steam group I created a while ago.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/RPSTAB
I'll be available tomorrow all day, playing Bioshock.

Sketch
25-05-2013, 04:25 AM
Brotherhood is the only AC game I don't own on PC unfortunately. Maybe when it's on sale.

TechnoJellyfish
25-05-2013, 11:42 AM
@ Heliocentric: Not sure if directed at me but I think we're well past that point, good sir! :)

@ somini: Sounds good! I'm planning to get a handful of matches played late afternoon/early evening today. I'll send you a quick reminder, if you so desire; I also joined the Steam group, FWIW.

@ Sketch: That's unfortunate; AC:B is the only one I do own. Do the gameplay improvements actually warrant a purchase of Revelations or is it more along the lines of a roster/map update?

somini
25-05-2013, 12:44 PM
@ Heliocentric: Not sure if directed at me but I think we're well past that point, good sir! :)

@ somini: Sounds good! I'm planning to get a handful of matches played late afternoon/early evening today. I'll send you a quick reminder, if you so desire; I also joined the Steam group, FWIW.

@ Sketch: That's unfortunate; AC:B is the only one I do own. Do the gameplay improvements actually warrant a purchase of Revelations or is it more along the lines of a roster/map update?
Great! The game is almost downloaded.
Revelations MP is mostly the same, as I recall. AC3 I haven't even played MP.

TechnoJellyfish
25-05-2013, 03:21 PM
For anyone not following the Steam group: We're doing some backstabbing, hiding in haystacks, falling from rooftops and whatnot in Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood at 3 p. m. GMT (yes, that's in about 40 minutes) today. Do not hesitate to pester somini (:P) or me about the details!

The Walrus
25-05-2013, 04:53 PM
Although I'm without ready access to a gaming pc atm, just wanted to express my interest. Picked up 2/Brotherhood/Revelations in the xmas sale and still haven't got round to finishing the multiplayer-lacking 2.
But if this is going to be a thing then I'd love to install brotherhood soon as I'm capable!

Heliocentric
25-05-2013, 09:15 PM
@ Sketch: That's unfortunate; AC:B is the only one I do own. Do the gameplay improvements actually warrant a purchase of Revelations or is it more along the lines of a roster/map update?

I would argue that Assrev was a backwards step, in introducing a cash store and some harmfully designed powers, Ass3 has access to some of the ruinous powers from Assrev and some others that sounded great and has a coop mode which has my imagination but not as yet access to my wallet.

TechnoJellyfish
26-05-2013, 11:17 AM
Thanks for yesterday's session, somini and Helio!

My personal highlight involved me trying to morph somini - who was sitting on a bench beside me and whom I thought to be an NPC - into a Doppelgänger. When the info "There is no crowd to be morphed" popped up, I instantaneously knew I was dead. Well played! -_-


@ The Walrus: I'm not sure about scheduling regular events, considering the fact that there doesn't seem to be that much interest in the game. But I'd be absolutely happy to set up some more ad hoc sessions. If you're on Steam, consider joining the Steam group which allows for better organization (like the announcement of events).

Oh, and it's in no way necessary to complete the SP campaign beforehand. That is what I did and I burnt out on the single player pretty hard (which is the reason why I only started to play MP recently).

@ Helio: Sounds like a step backwards, indeed. That moves it into the '5-bucks-territory' for me, then.

somini
26-05-2013, 02:44 PM
Thanks for yesterday's session, somini and Helio!

My personal highlight involved me trying to morph somini - who was sitting on a bench beside me and whom I thought to be an NPC - into a Doppelgänger. When the info "There is no crowd to be morphed" popped up, I instantaneously knew I was dead. Well played! -_-
That was great. I think I arrived with a large group of NPC, so it wasn't easy to distinguish. :)

I was running away from someone through the rooftops and jumped into a bale of hay to hide. I was watching my hunter looking over the area where I had gone, and suddenly he jumped into the same bale, forcing me out.

TechnoJellyfish
21-06-2014, 11:32 AM
Just a quick note for anyone even remotely interested in AC multiplayer: until 5 p.m. UTC today you can get Assassin's Creed Brotherhood (http://store.steampowered.com/app/48190/) and Assassin's Creed Revelations (http://store.steampowered.com/app/201870/) for € 3.74/$ 4.99/£ 3.74 each as well as Assassin's Creed 3 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/208480/) for € 4.99/$ 4.99/£ 3.74 on Steam; that is in addition to the more prominently featured discount on Black Flag (http://store.steampowered.com/app/242050/). I'm pretty sure this will end up as a fully featured daily deal later down the line but you'll never know ...

I've been dabbling with AC:B and AC:R multiplayer again the last couple of days and while I wouldn't call it thriving by any stretch of the imagination, you can still get a game going at almost any given time of the day (as long as you're in for the most popular game modes). It's also quite possible that there'll be an influx of new players due to the sale.

Heliocentric
21-06-2014, 05:02 PM
Brotherhood was the sweet spot for multiplayer, after that they started ruining the game flow to add 'features' to justify a sequel and microtransactions (which result in broken by design grinding).

The Walrus
21-06-2014, 09:27 PM
Hmm. Might be time to reinstall Brotherhood again. Though I only uninstalled a month or so ago, never seemed to be able to find a game.

Bobtree
22-06-2014, 02:42 PM
I'm up for revisiting ACB. Perhaps when the sale madness has settled we can arrange a multiplayer event.

Heliocentric
22-06-2014, 07:06 PM
Count me in, obviously.

somini
22-06-2014, 09:40 PM
Me too. A heads-up of half a day or so is appreciated.
There's also this: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/RPSTAB

somini
08-10-2014, 03:09 PM
Today is the day.
AC: Brotherhood for 3€ on Steam. He should organize a match.

Heliocentric
08-10-2014, 03:13 PM
I'll reinstall. It would be good if we could get a good pack, at least 4 players going.

somini
08-10-2014, 03:21 PM
I'll reinstall. It would be good if we could get a good pack, at least 4 players going.
I'll reinstall later today too. We'll see.

jerseyspud
08-10-2014, 04:08 PM
What is the multiplayer in black flag like? It's the only one I own on PC.

Heliocentric
08-10-2014, 04:33 PM
All the ass creeds are essentially the same, it's bunch of civilians for you, your hunter and your prey to mix within. You want to kill without being killed, but that requires not getting noticed.

It's a bit like the ship or spy party.

Bobtree
08-10-2014, 05:14 PM
Just tried to run ACB, but Uplay had some issue when updating and would crash on launch.
Uninstalled Ubisoft Game Launcher, deleted leftover files, reinstalled & updated fine, still crashes.
Uninstalled again, downloaded a fresh Uplay, now it works fine.

I will try to recruit another friend as well.

AceRimmer
10-10-2014, 12:36 PM
I heard a while back Ass Creed Brotherhood and Black Flag are the best ones of the series, so I figured I'd give brotherhood a whirl (had it sitting there for a while) and if I liked it I'd get black flag, and well, its a reasonably fun game, bit shallow but fun regardless, however the control scheme is driving me frigging crazy, it uses a different layout to 'every other pc game on the market', and if that wasn't bad enough, it regularly throws new control schemes at ya that you only use for 10-15 minutes at a time, ie that piece of crap bit on the boat. Has the control scheme / porting been improved on in black flag?

Squirly
10-10-2014, 01:07 PM
It's still the thing that bugs me the most about the game, actually, though I can't tell you which is better. The only AssCreed I've played is the first one and Black Flag, and that only because of the promised focus on the ships. I like the ships, I like the pirate aspect, and it's fun sailing around, getting into scraps with various ships and then sinking or boarding them. At least the first few times, then it becomes another thing that feels like it has to get crossed off the checklist.

But yeah, the most frustration for me was still the free-running that seemed to swing back and forth between working-kinda and driving me up the wall, just as my player character decided to once again try and run straight up a wall he shouldn't have. Or jump off a building. Or not move at all, leaving him briefly stuck, perched on top of a wall.

QuantaCat
10-10-2014, 01:09 PM
move these posts here from a thread in PC gaming.

Eight Rooks
10-10-2014, 01:56 PM
All the ass creeds are essentially the same, it's bunch of civilians for you, your hunter and your prey to mix within. You want to kill without being killed, but that requires not getting noticed.

It's a bit like the ship or spy party.

Well, might be worth noting AC and AC II have no multiplayer, and Unity has removed the competitive, it's just co-op.

Heliocentric
10-10-2014, 02:03 PM
Unity has removed the competitive, it's just co-op.

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AceRimmer
10-10-2014, 02:18 PM
Aye if it aint much of a step up I don't think I'll bother with black flag. Hell I don't even know if I'll finish this one, might leave the rest of it for next time I'm hungover and don't feel like thinking.

And oh aye, was reading a while back some guys are working on a 'navigation plug in thingy', for devs to just plug into their game and it calculates if your dude or an ai or whatever can make a jump, which route, etc. And if they for example vaulting a wall it'll calculate ok he'll put his hand here, won't put his hand here cause it'll slide off, etc. If that thing does take off could be hella cool. Was thinking about it the other day actually, was thinking it'd be cool to have different settings for different levels of agility, as they get tired they can jump less, etc. Might see if I can track em down and suggest it.

Heliocentric
10-10-2014, 02:22 PM
Aye if it aint much of a step up I don't think I'll bother with black flag.

The single player is good, by all means try that.

AceRimmer
10-10-2014, 02:30 PM
ehh, the writing I've found to be hollow, extremely predictable, and borderline cringeworthy, unless they hired a whole new writing team I don't see it being much of a buy. That and the combat just don't cut it considering I just played the batman trilogy.

somini
10-10-2014, 02:55 PM
As single player goes, I think the first one is the best, followed by II. Brothehood is still good, but then it goes to the dogs. Haven't played anything past III.

AceRimmer
10-10-2014, 04:55 PM
Honestly think I might just play through arkham city again or get off me ass n check out the witcher 1/2, pretty done with ass creed.

QuantaCat
10-10-2014, 04:56 PM
ACB is pretty good though. MP funss.

my AC enjoyment goes thusly:

ACB>AC4>ACL>AC2>AC1

I omitted the ones I didnt play, though I did play the spinoff one, which I cant remember the name of.

Bobtree
06-11-2014, 05:47 PM
This thread seems to have been derailed by the merge. Still interested? Lets pick a day and time to play.

Heliocentric
06-11-2014, 06:00 PM
I'm Heliocentric85 on uplay, feel free to add to your friend/target list.

Eight Rooks
07-11-2014, 03:24 PM
Unity's probably going to be my one new AAA game this festive season, so I might pester people to see if they want to co-op when it finally turns up. I'm EightRooks on Uplay, though I only have Brohood on Steam. :(

Also the correct order is Black Flag > Brohood > 3 (you heard) > Revelations > 2 > 1, and I loved the story in Black Flag, for all its flaws. So refreshing to have a game that all but outright says to you fuck your silly, childish dream of sticking it to the man, going home, owning your mistakes and taking care of the people who need you is real heroism.

somini
07-11-2014, 08:49 PM
Also the correct order is Black Flag > Brohood > 3 (you heard) > Revelations > 2 > 1
That is factually wrong. 1 is better than 2, or at the very least a tie. Above brotherhood, 3 and Revelations. Haven't played Black Flag yet.

Heliocentric
07-11-2014, 08:52 PM
I ran all of the assassins creed games through the objective review-o-meter but 3 got jammed in and broke it, when I opened it up I found a high quality wolf pelt.

somini
07-11-2014, 09:18 PM
I ran all of the assassins creed games through the objective review-o-meter but 3 got jammed in and broke it, when I opened it up I found a high quality wolf pelt.
I could find that wolf pelt, but it was inside about 5 levels of menus.