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Bracket
21-10-2011, 08:53 PM
Hello

I've been mulling over the idea of building myself a new pc, then yesterday my current pc packed in, pretty sure its something to do with the power supply, but that's neither here nor there.

So anyways after a little research I've come up with the following...

CPU: i5 2500k 3.30 GHz
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/processors/intelcorei3,i5andi71155socket/bx80623i52500k.html

MB: Gigabyte GA-Z68
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/motherboards/intel1155z68chipsetmotherboards/ga-z68a-d3h-b3.html

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws-X 8GB DDR3 1600
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/memory-pc/ddr3-pc3-12800/1600mhz/f3-12800cl7d-4gbxm.html

PSU: Corsair TX 750W
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/powersupplies/cmpsu-750txv2uk.html

HDD: Western Digital Blue 1TB, Sata 6 gig, 7200rpm
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/harddrives-internal/sata500gbto1tb/wd10ealx.html

GPU: Novatech Geforce GTX 560 1024mb
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/nvidiageforcegraphicscards/nvidiagtx560fermiseries/nov-560oc.html

Case: Coolermaster enforcer
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/cases/sgc-1000-kwn1.html

Including a standard disk drive and windows 7 oem, that comes to a total of 793.89

I'm basically looking to run the current crop of games at med/high settings, but also to have a certain amount of future proofing. Im quite happy to pay around 800 quid but obviously the less spent the better.

My main areas of doubt with this build are the CPU and GPU. But for all I know the whole thing may be laughable.

Your opinions would be greatly welcomed. (also that was my first ever post in a forum on the internet ever in the world, just so you know.)

Ta.

duff
21-10-2011, 08:56 PM
Looks like a build from someone who knows their stuff to me. If you can possibly wait / use your old gpu, next year Q1 will see the release of the 600 series.

Your CPU and GPU are perfectly fine and considered as the best performance to price ratios. The only game I can think of where the 560 might not let you run on high is BF3.

slick_101
21-10-2011, 09:00 PM
I'd say wait ivy bridge to come out, Which should be in the end of Q4 '11 to the start of Q1 '12.

Bracket
21-10-2011, 09:48 PM
@ duff. I wish I could take credit for the build. It's and adaptation of something I read in another forum. The original used an i7 2600k 3.4GHz and a MSI Geforce 560 HAWK 1024MB, which pushed the cost a little too close to 1k.

My old pc really wasn't designed for gaming and the GPU is a bit of a relic, I'd love to be able to wait but I have the money now and I've got next week off work.

I'm only just getting back into pc gaming after about 7 years away, most of the games I'll be playing will be a few years old (bar Deus Ex and arkham city). I am however (like almost every one else) keen on BF3 but more than happy to play on med settings, besides it'll be a while before I can afford to upgrade my monitor.

@ slick_101. I really can't/don't want to wait. Pretty much relied on my pc for all my media interests and I'm in the middle of a job application. Had to dust of an old dell for this and it's taking all my patience not to hurl it from the window.

Thanks both for the advice though!

Think I'll go with the build unless I hear otherwise by tomorrow.

duff
21-10-2011, 10:19 PM
Bracket - there is absolutely no reason to go for an i7 2600k over the i5 2500k unless you are doing some kind of video editing. The 2500k right now is as good as any other processor for gaming.

It sounds like the 560GTX will suit your needs just fine. If you have the cash and spend alot of time playing multiplayer fps games it might be worth getting an EVGA superclocked 570 (http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1280mb-evga-gtx-570-hd-superclocked-40nm-3900mhz-gddr5-gpu-797mhz-shader-1594mhz-480-cores-plusfree-). This wil certainly be a better use of your money than getting an i7. But the 560 is a good card and better value than pretty much anything else. The card I linked is about as far on the cost to performance ratio I'm willing to go, and is probably about 10-20% faster than the 560 depending on the game, but obviously a bit more expensive. It comes down to personal choice really and what games you intend to be playing the most.

EDIT: If you haven't seen it already this is a factory overclocked 560 (http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-msi-gtx-560ti-oc-twin-frozr-ii-40nm-4200mhz-gddr5-gpu-880mhz-shader-1760mhz-384-cores-plusfree-b) with better cooling incase you want to overclock.

Bindibadgi
23-10-2011, 03:05 PM
I'd say wait ivy bridge to come out, Which should be in the end of Q4 '11 to the start of Q1 '12.

Nope. It's later than that unfortunately but I cannot tell you how far.

The PSU is plenty for that build, you could probably get away with anything from a 550W upwards if you're sticking with a single graphics card tbh.

The GTX 560 is a non-Ti version so you're only getting 336 cores not 384. And you've not spec'd a heatsink? Think about noise as well - read some reviews of the stock card and see if it's what you want, otherwise look at custom designs with aftermarket coolers. I would certainly take an aftermarket cooler over an OC'd model, as the noise drop will be far more noticeable than a few FPS extra.

I would encourage squeezing in a 60GB SSD, even a 20-40GB one for SSD caching if you can and I'd love to suggest an ASUS motherboard (P8Z68-M Pro? P8P67-M Pro? P8Z68-V? or if you can stretch the ROG GENE-Z http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/Maximus_IV_GENEZ/) but it's your choice. ASUS boards all have UEFI BIOS as standard and the Pro/GENE has DIGI+ VRM for overclocking. I can link to an overclocking guide for it if you'd like :)

Jambe
23-10-2011, 10:36 PM
Asus has a better UEFI BIOS right now; I think Gigabyte uses a traditional BIOS. Both companies have a good track record with PC enthusiasts, though. If you tweak your case fans much, Asus' BIOS allows you to set temp-based fan speed profiles for the fans plugged into the board (it varies, but most motherboards have 2-4 headers for the CPU cooler and case fans). I don't think Gigabyte offers that on these newest motherboards.

The K version of the CPU is unnecessary if you're not gonna OC it. You'd want a different mobo if you were heavily OC, anyway.

PSU's overkill. 650 or a quality 550 would do. I like Seasonic. They actually produce some of Corsair's PSUs but I believe the one in question is made by Channel Well. Yep, AnandTech reviewed the unit in question (http://www.anandtech.com/show/2655/). Not a bad power supply but there are nicer units on the market. If I overspend on any aspect of a computer, the first one to see extra cash is the PSU. It doesn't make much sense to me to invest lots of money into delicate components unless I'm sure the power being sent them is filtered well! So you could actually spend more money on a lower-rated PSU and come away better.

For example... this Seasonic 660W unit (http://www.scan.co.uk/products/660w-seasonic-x-660-modular-80-plus-gold-92-eff-sli-crossfire-eps-12v). I actually run a more power-hungry setup than what you've proposed on the 560W version of that same PSU, for what it's worth, and most of the time the fan doesn't even kick on (it stays off until it detects a certain temperature, so it's mostly silent). I'm not familiar with UK distributors — I just did a Google product search, so that company may be crap (no idea). And again, the listed PSU would work just fine. I'm just personally anal about power supplies.

Everything else is fine! Any major brand of RAM is OK. The case strikes me as ostentatious but at least it has internal USB 3.0. Actually, you might check whether your mobo has an internal USB 3.0 header. I recommended an Asus board in another post because it has one — most motherboards don't! The model of GPU is good, but I'm unfamiliar with Novatech.

Bracket
01-11-2011, 10:33 PM
Well, I realize I'm a little late in posting this, but...

Completed the build last Friday, went pretty smoothly and overall I'm very, very satisfied with my new computer. Currently playing E:TW smoothly on ultra, will give BF3 a spin next week or something expecting med/high settings, which I'm happy with.


@duff. Couldn't stretch to a 570, but I did go for Over clocked 560 (http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-msi-gtx-560ti-oc-twin-frozr-ii-40nm-4200mhz-gddr5-gpu-880mhz-shader-1760mhz-384-cores-plusfree-b) after deliberating with that and the gigabyte version. I'm glad I did and thank you for the recommendation. Probably wont try and over clock for a while though.

@Bindibadgi. Did go for a Ti version in the end. SSD is on the wishlist, don't really think they're worth it at the minute, especially as my needs are fairly minimal.

@Jambe. I'm happy with the old style of BIOS although I agree ASUS makes some attractive boards. Pretty sure I can overclock the CPU on this board, but I don't really have much intention of doing so at the minute. Your comments on the PSU are spot on, I definitely dropped the ball on that one (went for the 750w before reading your post), guess I'll know better for next time though. As a side note the I actually received the V2 version of the corsair TX750, this received more positive reviews and appears to have addressed some of the problems with the original.

Cheers all for you comments and help!! 'Tis much appreciated.