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WombatDeath
24-10-2011, 07:19 PM
Sign-ups for season 4 are now open! If you would like to take part please do three things:

1) Add yourself to this list. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvmG4SoJhEYbdFgtbjN3VFE4OUxQTEtSLWVoVmJGX 3c&hl=en_GB#gid=17)

2) PM your email address to me (optional, but it will be very useful if I need to give you a nudge). I will not disclose it to anyone else. If you have previously PMd your address to me in an earlier season you don't need to send it again, but if you're not sure then please re-send it.

3) Click here (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/profile.php?do=editoptions) to go to the RPS forum settings and edit the 'Private Messaging' section so that you get an email and/or a popup when someone (e.g. me) sends you a PM.

Season 4 will begin on Monday 31 October and will last two weeks, so please don't sign up if you expect to be unavailable during that period. You will probably be required to play between 4 and 6 games (division sizes are subject to the number of players). Rules are mostly as in previous seasons, and will be posted later this week.

New and old players are all welcome! No experience required, and weaponry will be provided. Sign up! (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvmG4SoJhEYbdFgtbjN3VFE4OUxQTEtSLWVoVmJGX 3c&hl=en_GB#gid=17)

Palodin
24-10-2011, 07:41 PM
Sure, I'll have a go. FS is one of the games I'm actually not terrible at so I might have a chance for once. Shall PM you my Maily address shortly and I've added my name to the spreadsheet.

I'm available most days though I'll generally be out between 6-10PM GMT

WombatDeath
24-10-2011, 07:53 PM
Excellent, thanks. We don't tend to play matches out in real time, so as long as you're around now and again over the course of the fortnight that'll be groovy.

imirk
24-10-2011, 08:20 PM
I Signeded Up!

Cable
24-10-2011, 09:19 PM
I am also signed up! Hooray!

rodeoclown
24-10-2011, 09:40 PM
I'm in again, that was great fun last time :)

SF Legend
24-10-2011, 09:43 PM
Signed up. Will we be switching to the ingame tournament support this time round?

Heliocentric
24-10-2011, 09:56 PM
http://www.globalmeattraders.com/images/meat.jpg

imirk
24-10-2011, 10:37 PM
mmmm meat!

Roarster
24-10-2011, 11:26 PM
I'm in again and on my honour I promise that I will do my best.

We going to try the new in game tournaments or are we sticking with the challenge system?

lagnut
24-10-2011, 11:42 PM
Here goes nothing... Signed up.
New to this whole tournament thing, but I love this game!

WombatDeath
24-10-2011, 11:58 PM
We going to try the new in game tournaments or are we sticking with the challenge system?
Oooh, I didn't realise that it's finally gone live. Having had a play around with it, I'm having two problems:

1) I can't find a way to generate symmetrical maps
2) It doesn't seem to support a league-style format (i.e. everyone in a division plays everyone else).

Has anyone figured out how to do it?

TailSwallower
25-10-2011, 01:39 AM
Excellent! Added my name to the list. Have been distracted by other games, so this is a good excuse to get back into FS. I find it's a good game to play windowed while I'm doing other things, so I don't feel as guilty if I'm also doing something productive in parallel.

killer_monk
25-10-2011, 02:25 AM
I have signed up. This time will it will be a true .500 without a forfeit.

Antares
25-10-2011, 08:20 AM
I'm in for another go. Let's do this.

Labbes
25-10-2011, 09:45 AM
I'm in as well.

desvergeh
26-10-2011, 01:36 PM
Signed up and ready to get all my little green men shot to bits!

WombatDeath
26-10-2011, 01:53 PM
Could you add your FS name to the spreadsheet please, desvergeh?

Roarster
26-10-2011, 02:37 PM
Oooh, I didn't realise that it's finally gone live. Having had a play around with it, I'm having two problems:

1) I can't find a way to generate symmetrical maps
2) It doesn't seem to support a league-style format (i.e. everyone in a division plays everyone else).

Has anyone figured out how to do it?

I've never actually used it, I was just hoping it would mean I wouldn't have to bother with challenges anymore!

desvergeh
26-10-2011, 04:53 PM
Could you add your FS name to the spreadsheet please, desvergeh?

Thought I had, must not have saved.

WombatDeath
27-10-2011, 12:30 AM
Twenty people have signed up, which is lovely, but more would be splendid - no experience necessary. Yes, you! Sign up! (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvmG4SoJhEYbdFgtbjN3VFE4OUxQTEtSLWVoVmJGX 3c&hl=en_GB#gid=17)

TailSwallower
27-10-2011, 01:35 AM
Twenty people have signed up, which is lovely, but more would be splendid - no experience necessary. Yes, you! Sign up! (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvmG4SoJhEYbdFgtbjN3VFE4OUxQTEtSLWVoVmJGX 3c&hl=en_GB#gid=17)

With all the Humble Indie Bundles that were surely purchased from people around these parts we could have the BIGGEST LEAGUE EVAR!

If you're worried about how terribly you might die, I didn't win my first game until I had 11 losses under my belt... So don't be scared of a few losses to figure the game out (I also couldn't get past the first campaign mission until I'd played a bunch of MP, so don't be put off if that's the case for you also).

Quantumnerd
27-10-2011, 07:50 PM
Thanks to the recent workload at university, I have to drop out of the tournament. I'll probably show for the next season, though.

Sorry for that!

Dr. Shenanigans
28-10-2011, 02:59 AM
Signing up again, good luck to you all, gentlemen!

WombatDeath
29-10-2011, 12:10 PM
Tomorrow evening I will close the season 4 sign-ups and create the divisions. There's still time this weekend for more players to enlist!

imirk
30-10-2011, 01:43 AM
mo ppl is mo fun sign up everay body!

Antares
30-10-2011, 01:16 PM
Hey gents, unfortunately I'm running across some pretty nasty computer issues, so I'm going to have to bail out. Have fun you lot.

CMaster
30-10-2011, 03:25 PM
Annoyed to have missed the last one. However now, I'm back!

WombatDeath
31-10-2011, 02:43 AM
Right! Sign-ups are now closed, and season 4 will consist of three division of seven players each. I haven't yet decided how those divisions will be constructed, taking into account the results from previous seasons, but one way or another the game will be afoot by this time tomorrow.

WombatDeath
01-11-2011, 12:40 AM
Season 4 has now begun! This time we have three divisions of seven players each, and the new players have been added to the league in the order in which they registered their participation. You can now start issuing challenges and playing your matches - click here to see the league tables (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvmG4SoJhEYbdFgtbjN3VFE4OUxQTEtSLWVoVmJGX 3c&hl=en_GB#gid=15).

Important: each player has the responsibility of challenging every player above him/her in the appropriate division. That means that, for instance, SFLegend in division one has to issue two challenges: to cimethink and Jolima.

If you are unsure who you should be challenging, look at the second tab on the spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvmG4SoJhEYbdFgtbjN3VFE4OUxQTEtSLWVoVmJGX 3c&hl=en_GB#gid=16). You need to issue a challenge for each game in which you are Player 1. If you're still unsure, post in this thread or send me a PM.

Game rules and league procedures

1) Each game must conform to the following settings:

Mode: Dark Elimination
Map type: symmetrical
Turn limit: eight turns
Turn duration: five seconds per turn (i.e. 5000 milliseconds - this is the default setting)
Visibility: vis at time zero
Team strength: four men per player
Server: UK1

Any game that does not conform to these rules will be void and must be replayed. Please see the next post if you're not sure how to create a game with the correct settings, and post in this thread if you are in any doubt.

2) After creating each game on server UK1, the challenger must state the challenge in this thread. Format: "[Player1] has challenged [Player2] in game [game ID]".

Example: "ColOfNature has challenged WombatDeath in game 123456".

3) After each game has been completed, the player accepting the challenge must report the result in this thread. Standard format: "[Victorious player] has defeated [defeated player] in game [game ID] by [number of men killed by victorious player] men killed to [number of men killed by defeated player]".

Example: "ColOfNature has defeated WombatDeath in game 123456 by 4 men killed to 2".

In the event of a draw, the format is "[Challenging player] and [challenged player] have drawn in game [game ID], killing [number of men killed per player] men each."

Example: "ColOfNature and WombatDeath have drawn in game 123456, killing 3 men each".

I will update the spreadsheet with the result of each game.

4) Challengers may start issuing their challenges from today (Monday 31 October). All games must be completed by the end of Sunday 13 November GMT.

5) We're all reasonable people, probably, so some flexibility will be applied. If you're going to be on holiday, or dead, or otherwise restricted in your availability, please post in this thread and we will try to accommodate you as far as is reasonably practical.

6) Try to start your games in the first week and finish them early. Players leaving it to the last minute to issue a challenge or submit orders risk forfeiting the game. If any game is unfinished by the deadline I will use my discretion and award points to one, both or neither player, depending on the circumstances.

7) At the end of the season the final results will be used to determine the divisions for season 5, according to a fiendishly cunning set of rules which I will arbitrarily put together at some point.

8) Any circumstances not catered for in these rules will be handled according to some combination of common sense, consensus, whimsy and iron-fisted authoritarianism.

Finally, a polite reminder that although PMing your email address to me is optional, it will make organisation easier so please consider doing so if you haven't already.

Good luck!

WombatDeath
01-11-2011, 12:40 AM
How to create a game with the correct settings

This may be useful to those newer to Frozen Synapse:

1) Log in to server UK1.
2) Click the 'Multiplayer' button at the top of the screen
3) Click 'Create a game'
4) Set the game mode to Dark Extermination
5) Click the 'Advanced setup' button
6) Ignore the scary warning and click 'OK'
7) Click the 'Generate symmetrical' button
8) If you get a silly map, or if you don't have four men per side, go back to (7) and repeat until you're happy
9) Click the 'Submit' button
10) Ensure that the 'Game mode' is set to 'Extermination'
11) Ensure that the 'Vis mode' is set to 'Vis at time zero'
12) Ensure that the 'Turn limit' is set to 8 (and the 'Turn length' to 5000, which is the default)
13) Enter your opponent's username
14) Enter 'RPS Dark Extermination League' or something suitable so that your opponent knows it's for this league
15) Click the 'Submit' button
16) Take your first turn and note the challenge in this thread, using the format in point 2 of the post directly above this one.

Heliocentric
01-11-2011, 12:49 AM
17)The map generator will screw about a little with the symmetry, not much you can do about that.

CMaster
01-11-2011, 02:03 AM
CMaster has challenged WombatDeath in game 355966
CMaster has challenged ColOfNature in game 355967
CMaster has challenged Desvergeh in game 355980
CMaster has challenged Roarster in game 355971
CMaster has challenged imirk in game 355975
CMaster has challenged Dr_Shenanigans in game 355976

TailSwallower
01-11-2011, 04:01 AM
Wasn't there a symmetrical map pack in use for Season 3? Might be easier to use instead of fiddling with the map maker (though CMaster just issues all his challenges and apparently didn't have any issues with the generator).

(Not on my gaming computer right now, will issue my challenges this evening.)

imirk
01-11-2011, 04:04 AM
imirk has challenged WombatDeath in game 356020
imirk has challenged ColOfNature in game 356023
imirk has challenged Roarster in game 356025

imirk
01-11-2011, 04:05 AM
Wasn't there a symmetrical map pack in use for Season 3? Might be easier to use instead of fiddling with the map maker (though CMaster just issues all his challenges and apparently didn't have any issues with the generator).

(Not on my gaming computer right now, will issue my challenges this evening.)

Nope the double elimination tournament uses map-packs and has a symmetrical pack

Cable
01-11-2011, 04:21 AM
Urthran(Cable) has challenged Labbes in game 356035

rodeoclown
01-11-2011, 04:24 AM
rodeoclown has challenged cimethink in game 356043
rodeoclown has challenged Jolima in game 356041
rodeoclown has challenged SFLegend in game 356038
rodeoclown has challenged echodb in game 356037
rodeoclown has challenged ComradePenguin in game 356036
rodeoclown has challenged Heliocentric in game 356033 (I forgot to set the name in the challenge, sorry)


(As an aside, while generating symmetric maps, I managed to generate one with no men on it :S)

killer_monk
01-11-2011, 04:56 AM
Plain0 has challenged Urthran in game 356049
Plain0 has challenged Labbes in game 356050
So the wars begin.

Fumarole
01-11-2011, 05:32 AM
I don't have to send out any challenges this time? Sweet.

Good luck all.

tpiece
01-11-2011, 07:30 AM
tpiece has challenged Plain0 in game 356083
tpiece has challenged Urthran in game 356085
tpiece has challenged Labbes in game 356086

TailSwallower
01-11-2011, 09:41 AM
Palodin - please disregard game 356112 - only 3 men per side. My bad. (I'm happy to still play it, but it's obviously 356113 that will count for purposes of the tournament)

TailSwallower has challenged lagnut in game 356111
TailSwallower has challenged Palodin in game 356113
TailSwallower has challenged tpiece in game 356114
TailSwallower has challenged Plain0 in game 356115
TailSwallower has challenged Urthran in game 356117
TailSwallower has challenged Labbes in game 356119

desvergeh
01-11-2011, 12:27 PM
Desvergeh challenges Imirk in game 356171
Desvergeh challenges Roarster in game 356175
Desvergeh challenges ColOfNature in game 356174
Desvergeh challenges WombatDeath in game 356177

Good luck everyone.

desvergeh
01-11-2011, 01:00 PM
CMaster has defeated Desvergeh in game 355980 by 4 kills to 2

Palodin
01-11-2011, 05:19 PM
Palodin has challenged Labbes in game 356317
Palodin has challenged Urthran in game 356358
Palodin has challenged Plain0 in game 356361
Palodin has challenged tpiece in game 356364

Fumarole
02-11-2011, 01:24 AM
cimethink has defeated rodeoclown in game 356043 by 4 to 2.

Heliocentric
02-11-2011, 01:45 AM
Heliocentric has challenged cimethink in game 356810
Heliocentric has challenged Jolima in game 356913
Heliocentric has challenged SFLegend in game 356814
Heliocentric has challenged echodb in game 356815
Heliocentric has challenged ComradePenguin in game 356816

Heliocentric
02-11-2011, 01:56 AM
I must be missing something about movement, i just saw my opponent rodeo clown do an evasive move i could not model in the prediction despite anticipating it, it happened, he evades, wtf?

*sighs* i guess it was down to the pixels, but the timing seemed off.

killer_monk
02-11-2011, 04:20 AM
Palodin has defeated Plain0 in game 356361 by 4 to 1.
It was not even close. the one kill was him run into my shotgun.

rodeoclown
02-11-2011, 04:58 AM
I must be missing something about movement, i just saw my opponent rodeo clown do an evasive move i could not model in the prediction despite anticipating it, it happened, he evades, wtf?

*sighs* i guess it was down to the pixels, but the timing seemed off.

Are you talking MG or GL?
If it's the MG, I zoomed right in and backed all the way into the corner, so it could quite well be the pixels.
For the GL, seeing we both did exactly the same thing, you can see that you fired juuuuuust a bit further in than me, so it is almost certain to just be a fluke (although I didn't fire a grenade, which you might have modelled me doing).

Cable
02-11-2011, 08:09 AM
hey tpiece, i've just played the first turn for our game and we've both done exactly the same thing with our top shotgunner so they've stopped just outside they're range aiming at each other and just staring each other down. I thought it was pretty hilarious.

Heliocentric
02-11-2011, 10:13 AM
Are you talking MG or GL?
If it's the MG, I zoomed right in and backed all the way into the corner, so it could quite well be the pixels.
For the GL, seeing we both did exactly the same thing, you can see that you fired juuuuuust a bit further in than me, so it is almost certain to just be a fluke (although I didn't fire a grenade, which you might have modelled me doing).

The gl, I knew mine was dead if you fired right away, same of yours but clearly I didn't quite aim far enough to ensure coverage. Annoying to fall at such a hurdle as this.

Heliocentric
02-11-2011, 12:10 PM
rodeoclown was defeated by Heliocentric in game 356033 4 killed to 2 with magic rocket grenade fun time

ColOfNature
02-11-2011, 12:34 PM
ColOfNature has challenged WombatDeath in match 356804.

killer_monk
02-11-2011, 06:10 PM
tpiece has defeated Plain0 in game 356083 4 to 1.
I am a horrible slide. Hope the other games are better.

WombatDeath
03-11-2011, 12:12 AM
CMaster and WombatDeath have drawn in game 355966, killing three men each. Good game!

Cable
03-11-2011, 01:04 AM
tpiece has defeated Urthran in game 356085 by 4 kills to 0
Plain0 has defeated Urthran in game 356049 by 4 kills to 2
not a very auspicious start for this season i fear.
Hopefully i'll end strongly...

and another
Urthran has defeated Palodin in game 356358 by 4 kills to 3
good tight game

Heliocentric
03-11-2011, 11:36 AM
The curtain just slipped and I saw the man behind the curtain.
The shotgun mandidnt die, because the bullets weren't "for" him.
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594701250399556313/5365675419CE42BCA947A686DFFA5C8DCD3FA561/

echodb
03-11-2011, 06:20 PM
echodb has challenged cimethink in game 357996
echodb has challenged Jolima in game 357998
echodb has challenged SFLegend in game 358000

cimethink, i accidently issued a normal challenge to you as well :S ...can ignore.

WombatDeath
03-11-2011, 06:37 PM
I'm sure I just posted this, but WombatDeath has defeated imirk in game 356020 by 4 kills to 2.

SF Legend
03-11-2011, 07:04 PM
echodb has defeated SFLegend in game 358000 by 4 kills to 0.

Roarster
03-11-2011, 10:13 PM
Roarster has challenged WombatDeath in game 358150

Roarster has challenged ColOfNature in game 358152

Good luck!

WombatDeath
03-11-2011, 11:01 PM
WombatDeath has defeated Desvergeh in game 356177 by 2 kills to 0. Great shotgunners think alike!

Fumarole
03-11-2011, 11:28 PM
The curtain just slipped and I saw the man behind the curtain.
The shotgun mandidnt die, because the bullets weren't "for" him.
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594701250399556313/5365675419CE42BCA947A686DFFA5C8DCD3FA561/I find it highly amusing that this scenario played out exactly as I anticipated, with my shottie killing yours after my gunner ate buckshot. Pawns being moved on the board, don't take it personally gunner man #4.

Labbes
03-11-2011, 11:48 PM
Urthran(Cable) has defeated Labbes in game 356035 4-0

Goddam rocket launchers! :D

Heliocentric
04-11-2011, 01:03 AM
I find it highly amusing that this scenario played out exactly as I anticipated, with my shottie killing yours after my gunner ate buckshot. Pawns being moved on the board, don't take it personally gunner man #4.

gunner man #4: Well, things went really well for your shotgun didn't they *scowls*

Fumarole
04-11-2011, 04:34 AM
gunner man #4: Well, things went really well for your shotgun didn't they *scowls*Well your shottie gets the last laugh:

Heliocentric defeated cimethink by the score of 4:1.

Cable
04-11-2011, 05:22 AM
Goddam rocket launchers! :D

Wow that was one pretty intense turn. This game's so amazing when things work out like that.
Thanks for the game!

echodb
04-11-2011, 08:23 AM
rodeoclown and echodb have drawn in game 356037, killing 3 men each

rodeoclown
04-11-2011, 08:48 AM
Thanks for the game echodb - nice rocket work near the beginning, I was real annoyed you got both guys :S

killer_monk
04-11-2011, 06:04 PM
Plain0 has defeated TailSwallower in game 356115 by 4 kills to 0.
Back to .500, baby.

Palodin
04-11-2011, 06:13 PM
Palodin has defeated TailSwallower in game 356113 by 4 men killed to 1

Also labbes, have you got my game invite? I sent it days ago and theres been no movement and you don't seem to be inactive.

Fumarole
05-11-2011, 12:46 AM
cimethink defeated echodb in game 357996 by the score of 4 to 0.

Cable
05-11-2011, 08:26 AM
Urthran has defeated TailSwallower in game 356117 by 4 kills to 3

good tight game, cheers!

Roarster
05-11-2011, 04:40 PM
CMaster has defeated Roarster in game 355971 by 4 kills to 1.

Excellent last grenade there, and I ran right into it!

CMaster
05-11-2011, 05:29 PM
CMaster has defeated Roarster in game 355971 by 4 kills to 1.

Excellent last grenade there, and I ran right into it!

Just watched that and I was thinking "ugh, this could go badly" then, BOOM!

lagnut
06-11-2011, 05:41 AM
lagnut has defeated TailSwallower in game 356111 by 4 men killed to 1

lagnut
06-11-2011, 05:54 AM
lagnut has challenged Labbes in game 359906
lagnut has challenged Urthran in game 359908
lagnut has challenged Plain0 in game 359910
lagnut has challenged tpiece in game 359911
lagnut has challenged Palodin in game 359912

echodb
06-11-2011, 08:21 AM
echodb has defeated heliocentric in game 356815 by 4 men killed to 1

echodb
06-11-2011, 08:24 AM
Thanks for the game echodb - nice rocket work near the beginning, I was real annoyed you got both guys :S

hehe, ye, i call it luck :) Was a good game, cheers!

WombatDeath
06-11-2011, 09:09 PM
WombatDeath has defeated Roarster in game 358150 by 4 kills to 1.

ColOfNature
06-11-2011, 11:13 PM
Roarster has defeated ColOfNature in 358152 by 4 kills to 3.
ColOfNature has defeated Desvergeh in 356174 by 4 kills to 2.


And while I've been very lax in updating YouTube recently, normal service will resume this week.

WombatDeath
07-11-2011, 05:23 PM
ColOfNature has defeated WombatDeath in game 356804 by 4 kills to 2.

I was on the back foot from the start, and didn't hold great hopes for my rather desperate dash at the end. That was a good pasting, well played!

Jolima
07-11-2011, 10:09 PM
Jolima has challenged cimethink in game 361184. (And am slowly working through all of the challenges I have received.)

ComradePenguin
07-11-2011, 11:56 PM
ComradePenguin has defeated Heliocentric in game 356816 by 4 kills to 1.

Nice kill from RL on MG in the final turn by Heliocentric there. I'll get about making my challenges today/tomorrow.

Heliocentric
08-11-2011, 02:43 AM
ComradePenguin has defeated Heliocentric in game 356816 by 4 kills to 1.

Nice kill from RL on MG in the final turn by Heliocentric there. I'll get about making my challenges today/tomorrow.

Classic house of cards for me there, once people started dying(turn one) I didn't feel i had the means to do anything aggressive.
GG

TailSwallower
08-11-2011, 05:23 AM
And while I've been very lax in updating YouTube recently, normal service will resume this week.

Any trick to achieving perfect Frozen Synapse/YouTube synergy? From the game itself it never seems to work for me, then last night recording offline worked fine, but uploading to YouTube said it worked, but only actually worked for 1 out of 5.

Anyway, I've had a terrible run this first round 1 win, 4 losses, awaiting one opponent. Can't remember if the one challengee I managed to beat has posted already (it was a blur of defeat being posted so I may have missed it), but otherwise I'm still waiting on Labbes for the last game.

ColOfNature
08-11-2011, 02:25 PM
ColOfNature has defeated Imirk in 356023 by 4 kills to 2.
CMaster has defeated ColOfNature in 355967 by 4 kills to 1.

The uploading is terribly bugged. Mode7 says it's Google's algorithm not handling ogg video correctly and I believe them, simply because trying to get any kind of confirmation or refutation from Mountain View makes getting blood from the proverbial stone seem like a walk in the park.

Anyhoo, my usual method is to try the upload from FS first. It used to work more often than not, but seems to fail almost every time these days. So when that doesn't work I convert the ogg video to avi (I use Any Video Converter) and upload that, which does work every time but has none of the metadata set, so I have to go into YouTube and copy the title and so on from the failed video. It's a bit laborious and decidedly annoying, which is a large part of the reason I've let it slip.

So yeah, I'm doing slightly better this time than I did last time - more by luck than judgement. I've had a couple of lucky wins and a couple of well-deserved losses. Must practice more between tourneys!

ComradePenguin
08-11-2011, 04:02 PM
ComradePenguin has challenged Jolima in game 361613.

Cable
08-11-2011, 09:29 PM
lagnut has defeated Urthran in game 359908 by 4 kills to 0

SF Legend
09-11-2011, 12:39 AM
SFLegend has challenged Jolima in game 361982
SFLegend has challenged cimethink in game 361983


rodeoclown has defeated SFLegend in game 356038 by 4 kills to 2

rodeoclown
09-11-2011, 01:45 AM
Thanks for the game SF Legend!

TailSwallower
09-11-2011, 02:38 AM
Thanks for the advice ColOfNature. Hopefully I'll get it sorted out tonight so I can update my blog.

imirk
09-11-2011, 03:12 AM
imirk has defeated Desvergeh in game 356171, 4 kills to nil.

Fumarole
09-11-2011, 05:22 AM
cimethink has defeated SFLegend in game 361983 by 4 to 2.

Labbes
09-11-2011, 10:57 PM
Hey everyone!

I just wanted to let you know that due to more-or-less unforeseen (but happy) circumstances, I quite probably will not be able to play all my games. I will try to make as many turns as I can, but I guess there will be some freewins :)
Cheers!

ComradePenguin
10-11-2011, 12:17 AM
ComradePenguin has challenged cimethink in game 362640.
ComradePenguin has challenged SFLegend in game 362650.
ComradePenguin has challenged echodb in game 362666.

Sorry about the lateness of the challenges. Unfortunately I moved the correct men in my first turn so they may last more than a turn as well.

Dr. Shenanigans
10-11-2011, 02:53 AM
Dr_Shenanigans has challenged Desvergeh in game 362611
Dr_Shenanigans has challenged imirk in game 362654
Dr_Shenanigans has challenged Roarster in game 362733
Dr_Shenanigans has challenged ColOfNature in game 362748
Dr_Shenanigans has challenged WombatDeath in game 362764

rodeoclown
10-11-2011, 03:11 AM
Hey everyone!

I just wanted to let you know that due to more-or-less unforeseen (but happy) circumstances, I quite probably will not be able to play all my games. I will try to make as many turns as I can, but I guess there will be some freewins :)
Cheers!

Unforseen, but happy... congratulations!
Sounds like giving away a few games is probably absolutely fine :D

imirk
10-11-2011, 03:57 AM
imirk has defeated CMaster in game 355975 with 3 kills to 2

Roarster
10-11-2011, 08:39 AM
imirk has defeated Roarster in game 356025 by 4 kills to 2.

SF Legend
10-11-2011, 07:24 PM
ComradePenguin has defeated SFLegend in game 362650 by 4 kills to 1.

CMaster
10-11-2011, 10:05 PM
imirk has defeated CMaster in game 355975 with 3 kills to 2

I'd mistakenly thought that if we both had units left alive at the end it was a draw, so hung back, wheras in fact I should have been striving for a kill in that game. Ah well.

Fumarole
11-11-2011, 08:17 PM
cimethink and ComradePenguin have fought to a 3-3 draw in match 362640.

SF Legend
12-11-2011, 06:01 AM
SFLegend has tied with heliocentric 3 kills each in game 356814

Palodin
12-11-2011, 03:07 PM
Palodin has defeated Lagnut in game 359912 by 4 men killed to 1

Would've been a perfect victory too if I hadn't cocked up with a grenade at the last minute :(

Huh. Doing better than I thought I would in this tourny, 4 wins to 1 loss now, can't complain there

ComradePenguin
12-11-2011, 11:36 PM
Rodeoclown has defeated ComradePenguin in game 356036 by 3 kills to 1.

I really struggled in this game. Rodeoclown played well but I find it very hard to adopt an attacking strategy in games without RL and GL. Anyone got any thoughts?

ColOfNature
13-11-2011, 02:52 AM
Dr_Shenanigans has defeated ColOfNature in game 362748 by 4 kills to 1.

rodeoclown
13-11-2011, 03:02 AM
Thanks for the game ComradePenguin.

I find it really hard without the explosive weapons too. What I generally try and do is have an MG covering a wide area, and then scout with the shotguns. If you look closely at the turn before I took out your SG at the top, I ran my SG through the room below him, and just used the check command to figure out exactly where you were. Knowing where you were positioned meant I could sim out my other SG to make sure I could clear yours out (he was well camped).

My first SG got wasted because I didn't have a line of sight on your guys, instead of running him in for an attack, I should have sent him along the bottom edge of the map so I could see where your men were positioned.

Without indirect fire, knowing where your enemy is becomes even more important.

WombatDeath
13-11-2011, 06:09 PM
I've been away for the weekend, so will try to get the spreadsheet up-to-date this evening. If any of you have been waiting for an opponent to submit orders for more than a couple of days, please say so in this thread.

echodb
13-11-2011, 06:32 PM
echodb has defeated ComradePenguin in game 362666 by 2 men killed to 1

I'm waiting for Jolima to complete his turn in game 357998

ComradePenguin
13-11-2011, 08:04 PM
I'm waiting for Jolima to complete his turn in game 361613.


echodb has defeated ComradePenguin in game 362666 by 2 men killed to 1


Well played though I must apologise for the map I chose that ended up with both us have a RL and MG camped in an area unable to reach the other.

WombatDeath
13-11-2011, 08:32 PM
WombatDeath has defeated Dr. Shenanigans in game 362764 by 4 kills to 1.

CMaster
13-11-2011, 08:43 PM
I've completed all games - just been waiting for Dr. Shenanigans to report the result.

ComradePenguin
13-11-2011, 09:53 PM
Jolima has now completed his game against me. As I'm here I might as well report it.

ComradePenguin has defeated Jolima in game 361613 by 4 kills to none.

That's the end of another decent season for me. Thanks to everyone I played.

rodeoclown
13-11-2011, 09:55 PM
I'm also waiting for Jolima.

Fumarole
13-11-2011, 11:54 PM
Jolima has defeated cimethink in match 361184 by 4:1.

lagnut
14-11-2011, 01:36 AM
Well, frustratingly, Labbes did not even take the first turn for game 359906 - and now of course the deadline has passed.

TailSwallower
14-11-2011, 02:25 AM
Labbes already posted that he probably wouldn't get to his games - I'm still waiting on him in one game, though I haven't checked in the last couple of days, so perhaps the deadline has passed for this one as well.

Dr. Shenanigans
14-11-2011, 06:59 AM
Sorry, for some reason I thought that I had challenged you, CMaster.

CMaster has defeated Dr_Shenanigans in game 355976 by 4 kills to 1.

Incidentally, I'm still waiting on turns from Roarster, imirk and Desvergeh.

Jolima
14-11-2011, 09:13 AM
Jolima has won against Heliocentric in game 356813 with 4 kills against 1.
Jolima has won against SF Legend in game 361982 with 4 kills against 1.
echodb has won against Jolima in game 357998 with 3 kills against 0.

Only the rodeoclown game left, I missed that one when I played the others because it had moved out of the active games. I'll gladly accept a forfeit if we won't have time to finish it up. Sorry for the lateness everyone, I had too much going on.

rodeoclown
14-11-2011, 09:32 AM
I'm more than happy to play it out Jolima :)

WombatDeath
14-11-2011, 12:16 PM
Happy to allow a couple of day's grace for the remaining games to be finished, not least because I've been busy and rather sluggish on the nagging front.

imirk
14-11-2011, 04:53 PM
Wops, I'll be right on it Dr. Shenanigans!

Jolima
14-11-2011, 08:49 PM
rodeoclown has defeated Jolima in game 356041 with 4 kills against 2.

Interesting game that one, started out with one kill each, then a hidden rocket launcher took out both of my shotgunners and I was left trying to hunt down a shotgun and a rocketeer with a single machinegunner. It was the kind of map where that could have worked, but it didn't.

Thanks for the games everyone.

rodeoclown
14-11-2011, 09:32 PM
When I saw your shotgunner next to my rocket, I'd assumed it was all over - I was just out of line of sight, which I saw, and I tried using my other SG to draw your fire to give me time to launch a rocket. Unlucky your other SG was right there.

Good game, thanks!

Jolima
14-11-2011, 09:39 PM
I had assumed in simulations that he was hiding in the other corner and was bringing up that other shotgunner to shoot him through the window. If I tried to turn the one who was in the room around instead simulations showed your shotgunner getting mine. I'm not sure that would have been the case for aiming in the correct corner though.

rodeoclown
14-11-2011, 09:51 PM
If you'd aimed for the right corner, I wouldn't have got the rocket off, and that game would have gone very differently (I simmed it out a lot).

lagnut
14-11-2011, 10:54 PM
Labbes already posted that he probably wouldn't get to his games - I'm still waiting on him in one game, though I haven't checked in the last couple of days, so perhaps the deadline has passed for this one as well.

Yes, I did recall that but I was hoping that at least the first turn would be submitted so that I could proceed to a timeout win. As it is, the game will simply expire.

TailSwallower
15-11-2011, 01:15 AM
As it is, the game will simply expire.

Yeah, I checked last night and my game against Labbes has expired as well.

imirk
15-11-2011, 07:41 AM
imirk has defeated Dr_Shenanigans in game 362654 4 kills to 2 kills.

Labbes
15-11-2011, 11:27 AM
I apologize for giving out freewins, unfortunately my laptop does not have an internal wifi card (worst. oversight. ever.), so I couldn't play very much. Seems I will take last place in my division. Again.
Well, at least I am on my way to B.Sc. now \0/
Edit: Oh god, I didn't know I had to do a turn first! I'm so sorry! If you challenge me again, I'll submit a turn this weekend (where I'm at home).

ComradePenguin
15-11-2011, 01:27 PM
Pretty sure that for the purposes of this tournament any timed out games will be awarded as default forefits as has been done in the past so I wouldn't worry Labbes, Lagnut and the others will get a default win here if not in FS.

WombatDeath
15-11-2011, 05:37 PM
Yes, I'll be awarding the points for unfinished games to whoever is least responsible for holding them up. I intend to do that at some point tonight, so please post here if you have any unfinished games which are actively in progress.

desvergeh
15-11-2011, 07:14 PM
Currently playing the match vs Dr_Shenanigans.

Won the match vs Roarster (4-2 I think), but have been waiting for him to update the thread with the results.

WombatDeath
15-11-2011, 07:57 PM
I've checked the outstanding matches and can report the following:

Desvergeh has defeated Roarster in game 356175 by 4 kills to 2.
Tailswallower has defeated tpiece in game 356114 by 4 kills to 3.
Lagnut has defeated Plain0 in game 359910 by 4 kills to 3. Great grenade on the final turn.
Lagnut has defeated tpiece in game 359911 by 4 kills to 1.
Palodin and tpiece have drawn in game 356364, killing 4 men each.

WombatDeath
15-11-2011, 08:13 PM
The season is now more or less over - we'll wait for desvergeh and Dr. Shenanigans to finish, and see if Roarster chimes in for his game against Dr. Shenanigans.

In other news, I've instituted a new rule: in the event that two or more players are tied for points at the end of a season, the first tie-breaker will be the number of Horsemen of the Apocalypse in each player's name, followed by goal difference and then number of kills scored.

rodeoclown
15-11-2011, 08:42 PM
So if we can get a Pestilence War-Eagle playing, s/he'll get a big leg-up in the case of a draw then? ;)

Just out of interest, what does "GD" stand for in the spreadsheet? (Is it 'Guy Difference'?)

WombatDeath
15-11-2011, 09:11 PM
It stands for goal difference! When I was drawing up the rules, the notion of goal difference in a game that doesn't feature goals tickled my whimsy gland. Guy Difference would perhaps be more appropriate but it also sounds a bit like a cross-dressing crime-fighter, which might be confusing.

WombatDeath
15-11-2011, 09:14 PM
By the way, I nearly forgot: a Frozen Synapse player named Icebrain has kindly offered a copy of his FS strategy guide to the winner of the league. I'm inclined to the view that it's more logical to award it to whoever is at the bottom of the league. Anyone have any thoughts?

Roarster
15-11-2011, 11:08 PM
Incidentally, I'm still waiting on turns from Roarster, imirk and Desvergeh.

I took my turn in this one yesterday, if not the day before.

TailSwallower
16-11-2011, 12:55 AM
I'm inclined to the view that it's more logical to award it to whoever is at the bottom of the league. Anyone have any thoughts?

It's definitely more logical, but Icebrain might not see it as a worthy donation of a prize if it's given to the "loser". Maybe ask Icebrain how they feel about it, and we can come up with something logical for the winner? Like some Steam credit, an upcoming Indie Bundle, something like that. Though that would mean a few people offering to pitch in. I could offer Sanctum + DLCs, but I think every man and his dog has a copy of that by now.

rodeoclown
16-11-2011, 01:14 AM
From what I've read on the forums, it's a pretty decent strategy guide. I guess I'd want to see it go to someone who wants to keep playing, and improve their game. So last place could be good (but I agree, we should probably ask!)

I'm not worried about a prize for first place (easy to say as I didn't win ;)), there was no prize when I signed up, so it's not a great loss if there wasn't one.

WombatDeath
16-11-2011, 01:42 AM
I should have mentioned that I ran this past Icebrain when he made the offer and he seems to be happy to let the community decide.

I've previously considered the idea of offering a prize to the winner, but I don't want people to feel pressured to contribute to a prize fund. The idea of donating Steam games to the winner is a good one, though the only giftable game I have is, ummm, Frozen Synapse...

imirk
16-11-2011, 02:20 AM
By the way, I nearly forgot: a Frozen Synapse player named Icebrain has kindly offered a copy of his FS strategy guide to the winner of the league. I'm inclined to the view that it's more logical to award it to whoever is at the bottom of the league. Anyone have any thoughts?

Congrats Labbes!! :P

What is the strategy guide?

WombatDeath
16-11-2011, 02:39 AM
We will not be giving prizes for forfeiting!

The prize is Icebrain's Frozen Synapse Guide to Advanced Mechanics & Tactics for Multiplayer (http://icebrain.net/guides/game/advanced-mechanics-tactics-multiplayer/).

Roarster
18-11-2011, 08:34 AM
Roarster has defeated Dr. Shenanigans in game 362733 by 4 kills to 3.

That's the last of my games. Not really one I deserved to win and a draw would've been a fair result.

desvergeh
18-11-2011, 12:28 PM
Desvergeh has defeated Dr_Shenanigans in game 362611 by 3 men killed to 1.

WombatDeath
18-11-2011, 10:39 PM
Hooray! The season is over, and I can rest in pieces.

Congratulations to all of the division winners, particularly echodb who has followed his victory in last season's championship round by becoming the leader of the league proper. Commiserations to those who didn't get the results they'd hoped for; you'll get the chance for revenge soon enough. Sign-ups for season 5 will open next week, and thank you all for taking part in season 4!

echodb
19-11-2011, 09:07 PM
Hooray! The season is over, and I can rest in pieces.

Congratulations to all of the division winners, particularly echodb who has followed his victory in last season's championship round by becoming the leader of the league proper. Commiserations to those who didn't get the results they'd hoped for; you'll get the chance for revenge soon enough. Sign-ups for season 5 will open next week, and thank you all for taking part in season 4!

Thanks for all the games folks! Looking forward to getting killed next season :)

rodeoclown
28-11-2011, 04:02 AM
So is there a season 5 this year?
Or is it waiting for next year?

WombatDeath
28-11-2011, 07:03 PM
Thanks for reminding me; it's been a busy couple of weeks. Sign-up thread for season 5 is here (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?2204-Frozen-Synapse-dark-extermination-league-season-5&p=62785#post62785).