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Gentleman Jim Stacey
26-10-2011, 08:35 AM
What happened to the franchise during the Activision buy-up of Sierra? Why has no one tried to make a NOLF 3?

Even though there's a solid chance a new sequel would be dog shit that entirely misses the point, its still kind of sad that this franchise seems dead and forgotten.

agentorange
26-10-2011, 08:41 AM
It's a good thing. Both of the games were fantastic and the premise was quite original, no need to run it into the ground with another sequel, or let's face it - a "visceral and engaging reboot of the franchise".

Gentleman Jim Stacey
26-10-2011, 08:54 AM
There are a few developers that could do the series justice if given the chance.

If it turned out shit, who cares? We don't have to play it.

Rii
26-10-2011, 10:12 AM
The gaming world could definitely use some more Cate Archer.


If it turned out shit, who cares? We don't have to play it.

You and your crazy ideas.

soldant
26-10-2011, 10:58 AM
The gaming world could definitely use some more Cate Archer.
So long as it's the Cate Archer we know from the previous games, and not a crappy reboot. I would support a new NOLF.

'Caus no one lives forever!

orcane
26-10-2011, 11:37 AM
Two-weapon limit, cover system, QTEs, dark and gritty. You know you want to.

Harlander
26-10-2011, 01:28 PM
Wasn't there a third game in the series, based around a different protagonist?

Contract J.A.C.K
http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/contract-jack

Apparently a bit ropey.

buemba
26-10-2011, 01:33 PM
As awesome as those games were (And my god were they awesome) I'm pretty sure they didn't sell well, so whoever holds the rights probably is in no hurry to do anything with the license. Shame too, since as far as I'm concerned NOLF and its sequel were Monolith's high point.

Let's face it - 60's spy spoof with female protagonist, colorful environments and a strong focus on stealth are so far removed from what publishers consider a hit formula these days I wouldn't be surprised if an Activision exec broke into hives if someone suggested making a new game in the series.

Gentleman Jim Stacey
26-10-2011, 03:14 PM
Shame too, since as far as I'm concerned NOLF and its sequel were Monolith's high point.

This is mostly why I had to ask. Monolith had reason to expect FEAR 2 to be a hit after the first one was so acclaimed, but they had to know no one would give a shit about FEAR 3 after that (and to my knowledge, no one did). If they had the license to make NOLF I doubt they'd have wasted their time with it. I wouldn't be surprised if the next game announced by Monolith is a FEAR spin-off or sequel; it seems like its all they got after the buyout.

Okami
26-10-2011, 03:40 PM
We are very excited to anounce a new game in the No One Lives Forever franchise. ARCHER:ORIGINS is a re-imagining of the original game for a modern audience. Featuring a new, sexier, grittier and more mature Kate Archer, it takes the series in a new direction, without forgetting the core of what made the original series so great. Everyone here at GenericSoft is a great fan of the original games and some of us have even watched a Let's Play of them on youtube. The new Kate Archer is an eighteen year old, leather thong wearing slutty looking girl, that acts all tough but secretely needs a guy to take care of her, but we'll still somehow manage to sell her as a strong and independent woman and get extremely sensitive and touchy if anyone accuses us of doing otherwise. The game will feature multiple new grim and dark looking environments, fast paced and visceral gameplay and a whole host of new gadgets, which will be automatically used during cutscenes and quicktime events, because we want to keep players in the flow of the game. This is not reducing the complexity but streamlining the interface for modern audiences. Also, we've replaced the 60s soundtrack with some generic heavy metal.

archonsod
26-10-2011, 04:25 PM
Nah, another game wouldn't work. They'd just end up turning it into a generic isometric turn-based affair.

Xercies
26-10-2011, 04:53 PM
Best FPS ever, in these times it would be turned into a modern shooter. Or it will be still set in the 60s but Kate Archer will be turned into a gruff american and he will be fighting Russia!

Okami
26-10-2011, 04:54 PM
Communist Russian Muslim Terrorists!

Gentleman Jim Stacey
26-10-2011, 05:06 PM
We get it, devs butcher revived franchises. NOLF WITH METAL MUSIC HAW HAW HAW.

Juan Carlo
26-10-2011, 05:14 PM
Anyone remember what engines they ran on? I think the sequel was some kind of proprietary monolith thing, but didn't the first run on Quake 3? IF so I imagine the first, at least, would run ok on modern hardware.

They should at least re-release them. GOG or steam would be nice. And an HD remake ala MDK2 would be awesome.

Gentleman Jim Stacey
26-10-2011, 05:19 PM
Anyone remember what engines they ran on? I think the sequel was some kind of proprietary monolith thing, but didn't the first run on Quake 3? IF so I imagine the first, at least, would run ok on modern hardware.

They should at least re-release them. GOG or steam would be nice. And an HD remake ala MDK2 would be awesome.

I did a full search last night and they aren't for sale anywhere digitally. They definitely need a GOG overhaul though. The last time I tried to play the first NOLF the only music was drums. So during the main theme all I heard was "boom bap boom bap boom bap" for a few minutes.

NOLF 2 holds up a lot better in the stability department and is still nice looking artistically.

Tikey
26-10-2011, 05:27 PM
Anyone remember what engines they ran on? I think the sequel was some kind of proprietary monolith thing, but didn't the first run on Quake 3? IF so I imagine the first, at least, would run ok on modern hardware.

They should at least re-release them. GOG or steam would be nice. And an HD remake ala MDK2 would be awesome.

I think the first one ran in the same engine as Shogo. The lithech engine I think it was.

Okami
26-10-2011, 05:52 PM
Yup, was lithtech.

Flint
26-10-2011, 05:58 PM
Wasn't there a third game in the series, based around a different protagonist?

Contract J.A.C.K
http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/contract-jack

Apparently a bit ropey.
Well it basically killed the franchise so yeah, it was a bit ropey.

orcane
26-10-2011, 06:12 PM
Killed may be a strong word, it wasn't that strong as a franchise to begin with (the games obviously didn't fit the gaming culture then any more than they would now).

IIRC they used different versions of Lithtech for all their games of this time. I remember a video of the new version's water effects for NOLF2.

Easily my two favourite games. Kinda silly there are no digital downloads around :o

Smashbox
26-10-2011, 06:17 PM
Very silly. They're beloved. I wonder if they run on Win 7

Kevin
27-10-2011, 06:54 AM
Nah, another game wouldn't work. They'd just end up turning it into a generic isometric turn-based affair.

Got a good laugh from that one.

soldant
27-10-2011, 06:58 AM
IIRC they used different versions of Lithtech for all their games of this time. I remember a video of the new version's water effects for NOLF2.
Yup, the Lithtech engine was pretty cool in some ways. Ran smooth on pretty much anything for the most part. It was also used in AvP2.