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disill
31-10-2011, 09:21 PM
I found this while looking through Kickstarters new projects. I think it looks really interesting, and thought everyone over here at RPS might be interested as well.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1034897274/against-the-wall-0

Smashbox
31-10-2011, 09:24 PM
Ham fisted viral marketing?

Great aesthetic, nice concept.

Nalano
31-10-2011, 09:25 PM
Interesting concept, but I hate Kickstarter. The hipster vibes it gives off makes my teeth ache.

disill
31-10-2011, 09:42 PM
I know, joining and then this being my first post does look pretty suspect, but I am actually a real person, unrelated to anyone making the game, honest.

Nalano
31-10-2011, 09:53 PM
Then tell us a bit about yourself, Real Person.

disill
31-10-2011, 10:20 PM
I don't suppose anyone'd believe me if I said longtime lurker, etc etc. But look! I've got real things in my sig now! I'm real!

DigitalSignalX
31-10-2011, 10:29 PM
uh oh. Shits getting real now. Game does look interesting though.

http://www.aaanything.net/wp-content/gallery/demotivate-october-2011/real_person_or_a_shiny_wooden_doll.jpg

Heliocentric
31-10-2011, 10:58 PM
Dear developer, please show the game within the first second of your game, i dont care what you look like but i have the attention sp...

Look a butterfly!

Heliocentric
31-10-2011, 10:59 PM
Also, the ring in the character's hand has made me decide this is a sonic the hedgehog fan project.

Heliocentric
31-10-2011, 11:01 PM
also

http://xkcd.com/417/

the butterfly is back!

TillEulenspiegel
31-10-2011, 11:11 PM
Dear developer, please show the game within the first second of your game, i dont care what you look like but i have the attention sp...

Look a butterfly!
Yeah. I think for most people, you have about five milliseconds to get them interested. If you aren't presenting people with something along the lines of two pictures and three short sentences as the very first thing they see, you need to rethink your approach.

Hook first, long rambling video after. It's like the activation energy of an endothermic reaction. You need that initial surge to get 'em to a higher level of interest.

It's also slightly worrying when you can't or won't clearly describe the basic gameplay.

Starfarer (http://fractalsoftworks.com/) is my favorite recent example of how I want to be sold a game, particularly one that's still in development. It's not the prettiest site, but they're presenting exactly the right information. Screenshots, informative text (look at all those tasty keywords in the very first sentence), then the video just underneath, and scroll down for even more information. Simple.

Heliocentric
31-10-2011, 11:35 PM
hell, the wall based world was a dream I had, so I will be buying it if it ever releases a playable version.

Wizardry
31-10-2011, 11:39 PM
Starfarer (http://fractalsoftworks.com/) is my favorite recent example of how I want to be sold a game, particularly one that's still in development. It's not the prettiest site, but they're presenting exactly the right information. Screenshots, informative text (look at all those tasty keywords in the very first sentence), then the video just underneath, and scroll down for even more information. Simple.
That looks quite fun for a real-time game.

outoffeelinsobad
31-10-2011, 11:40 PM
I have a tendency to be terrified by wide, open spaces in video games, so this one made me pretty tense. I ctrl-tabbed to a different browser tab though, and it froze.

Heliocentric
01-11-2011, 12:14 AM
That looks quite fun for a real-time game.
You should know that metacritic translates that into a 10

TailSwallower
01-11-2011, 03:16 AM
I'm intrigued by the concept, but yeah, haven't used Kickstarted before and this hasn't convinced me to start now.

Might try the alpha later, but at the very least I'll keep it on the radar.

mr.doo
01-11-2011, 04:08 AM
I don't suppose anyone'd believe me if I said longtime lurker, etc etc. But look! I've got real things in my sig now! I'm real!

The developer of that game is also real. Also those steam and last.fm profiles can also belong to the developer. i.e probably you.

sabrage
01-11-2011, 04:30 AM
If he was the developer, why wouldn't he just come out and say it? The game looks interesting enough, no reason to give the man the third degree for wanting to share it.

DigitalSignalX
01-11-2011, 04:58 AM
hell, the wall based world was a dream I had, so I will be buying it if it ever releases a playable version.

I once had a floor and wall based dream. It was a PvP or Co-op where the whole level was a two equal sized, walled mazes placed on a carefully balanced fulcrum. Each player in first person view had to navigate the maze, and as one player got closer to an objective, it would tilt the floor in their favor, and re-arrange the walls for his opponent as they slid some down the losing side. But the opponent could make up for it by either using some special skills or side-quests that take you from your objective but slow down your opponent / level the field some.

I can't recall if I'd been drinking or not, and someone makes this game, I want 5% of the net profit :P

Gentleman Jim Stacey
01-11-2011, 05:05 AM
You literally dream up game designs?

Must be in the genes. My dreams are all a bunch of random nonsense.

DigitalSignalX
01-11-2011, 05:14 AM
You literally dream up game designs?

Must be in the genes. My dreams are all a bunch of random nonsense.

It doesn't happen often, but yea I actually do dream about games I've played, or create ones that I would like to. Most of times though, it's cheerleaders selling cookies and falling off cliffs like everyone else.

winterwolves
01-11-2011, 01:30 PM
If he was the developer, why wouldn't he just come out and say it? The game looks interesting enough, no reason to give the man the third degree for wanting to share it.
I think it would be fine too. I make indie games as well but I never started a new thread just to promote them, I only keep a simple link in the signature.

TailSwallower
01-11-2011, 02:46 PM
Maybe we should have a Sticky thread "Tell us about new game X". That way legit forum goers could post links to things they find, and shameless devs would have a thread to post in (start a new one instead = delete + ban). The RPS guys could even use it to see if there's anything interesting that they haven't found by other means.

It's not necessarily a bad thing that we get these sorts of threads semi-regularly from people with little-to-no post history, but it is annoying when a) they try and pretend that they aren't devs (see CrazyEthan's thread), and b) they obviously have no interest in fostering any sort of dialogue about their game but simply want to get people clicking links.
Already we've seen in this thread that some members of the community are over it, so a catch-all Sticky thread could be a good option.

TillEulenspiegel
01-11-2011, 03:01 PM
b) they obviously have no interest in fostering any sort of dialogue about their game but simply want to get people clicking links.
That's the important part, IMO. I'm definitely interested in talking to people about the stuff they're making, like that guy with the Minecraft-y game. There's a pretty clear line between drive-by spam and someone who takes the time to engage with the community in a meaningful way.

disill
03-11-2011, 08:43 PM
I'm sorry I seem to have caused such confusion. If I was the developer I simply would have said so. but I'm honestly just a guy who liked the concept, and decided to put his money where his post is, and would like to see it succeed.

Acheron
24-11-2011, 07:24 PM
Hi, I'm the developer for this game. This thread is freaking hilarious!
Disill, thanks for the shout-out. Either these guys are trolling you hard or are seriously cynical. Then again you aren't convincing anyone by being defensive. Hell, I didn't believe you for a second there. ;)

@Nalano: Kickstarter too hipster for you? What do you call someone who hates something just because other people like it?
@outoffeelinsobad: Oh man, the game didn't freeze, the pause button for the game is "Tab". Didn't think about people ctrl-tabbing or alt-tabbing. Serious oversight, will need to fix it.
@sabrage: Yup. Funny thing, logic.
@DigitalSignalX: Something that you said reminded me of the Milkman level in Psychonauts. (Dream+selling cookies+cliffs).
@TailSwallower and @TillEulenspiegel: Ask away if you have any questions. I'm all for talking to you guys and starting a dialog.

Fumarole
24-11-2011, 09:58 PM
It doesn't happen often, but yea I actually do dream about games I've played, or create ones that I would like to. Most of times though, it's cheerleaders selling cookies and falling off cliffs like everyone else.Cheerleaders falling off cliffs is pretty random.

Nalano
25-11-2011, 12:00 AM
@Nalano: Kickstarter too hipster for you? What do you call someone who hates something just because other people like it?

It's too hipster in the sense that it allows people to gain loans without collateral, not unlike how hipsters tend to want to earn money without effort (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-funemployment4-2009jun04,0,7581684.story).

DarioSamo
25-11-2011, 01:01 AM
I admit I'm pretty retarded when it comes to new games, but I don't get what the hell is going on when trying this one. :(

I start, alone in the platform, and I see some weird blue-caped man. I walk to him and he suddenly disappears. Then I read the on-screen tip that I should left click the blocks but... I don't see facing and clicking a block has any effect. Or standing up close to it. All different types and sizes of block.

WTH am I supposed to do?

CuriousOrange
25-11-2011, 02:57 AM
It's too hipster in the sense that it allows people to gain loans without collateral, not unlike how hipsters tend to want to earn money without effort (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-funemployment4-2009jun04,0,7581684.story).

So the Prince's Trust is too hipster? What on earth are you talking about?

Nalano
25-11-2011, 03:14 AM
So the Prince's Trust is too hipster? What on earth are you talking about?

Kickstarter is not a charity, and the folks on it are not underprivileged youths.

Acheron
25-11-2011, 04:51 AM
@DarioSamo: Okay, that's a bug. Some people's machines don't seem to like Unity engine physics. I've heard of that exact same thing happening to other people, but have been completely unable to replicate it. Would like to get a video of this happening sometime.
What OS and browser are you using? Are you using the stand-alone? Any details that you can give would be a big help, because this bug seems to be pretty unreasonable.

DarioSamo
25-11-2011, 11:19 AM
@DarioSamo: Okay, that's a bug. Some people's machines don't seem to like Unity engine physics. I've heard of that exact same thing happening to other people, but have been completely unable to replicate it. Would like to get a video of this happening sometime.
What OS and browser are you using? Are you using the stand-alone? Any details that you can give would be a big help, because this bug seems to be pretty unreasonable.
Oh so it's a bug then? Here I was thinking I was just retarded. :P

I will get a video later today(gotta go to an exam atm), I'm on Windows XP SP3, using the stand-alone exe. Other unity games have worked on the past for me(Sonic Fan Remix). AMD Athlon x2 3.0 ghz BE OC, ATI Radeon HD 6870, 2GB DDR2 RAM.

DarioSamo
25-11-2011, 09:49 PM
Double posting for notifying Acheron, I just tried the game today and it worked. So I can't record the bug. D:<

What's interesting tho, is that I bought a new Xbox 360 pad today, and I just plugged it in replacing the old generic controller... I don't know if it's related? I play with mouse+keyboard anyway.

Acheron
29-11-2011, 05:46 PM
Interesting. If you unplug the controller and use the generic one are things messed up again? Perhaps there is some kind of conflict between the input devices. I programmed the game to support Xbox 360 controllers. I think that this could be the root of it.


Double posting for notifying Acheron, I just tried the game today and it worked. So I can't record the bug. D:<

What's interesting tho, is that I bought a new Xbox 360 pad today, and I just plugged it in replacing the old generic controller... I don't know if it's related? I play with mouse+keyboard anyway.

CuriousOrange
05-12-2011, 01:49 AM
Kickstarter is not a charity, and the folks on it are not underprivileged youths.

The Princes Trust isn't for "underprivileged youths". Its for people without the funds to, lets say 'kickstart' their business. Some of which happen to be underprivileged.

I am particularly opposed to your views on this because it enabled my partner to start her business. It was a loan without collateral, which you oppose.