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Althea
03-11-2011, 03:06 PM
Source (http://www.bethblog.com/index.php/2011/11/03/fallout-new-vegas-ultimate-edition-arrives-in-february/).

All six DLC packs (4 story packs, two item/gameplay packs).

Awesome!

squirrel
03-11-2011, 03:07 PM
Now that's why I often hesitate to buy singleplayer games at launch.

Drake Sigar
03-11-2011, 03:10 PM
Woohoo! Still haven't bought the game yet, and it seems my waiting has finally paid off. I'll just play some KotOR 2 in the meantime.

DigitalSignalX
03-11-2011, 03:16 PM
Coincidentally, I uninstalled Vegas yesterday. Kept the player savegames for my 2 play-throughs for the heck of it. Superb game, highly reccomend if anyone has been waiting to get it.

squirrel
03-11-2011, 03:20 PM
Coincidentally, I uninstalled Vegas yesterday. Kept the player savegames for my 2 play-throughs for the heck of it. Superb game, highly reccomend if anyone has been waiting to get it.

Thing is, that if my information is correct this game requires online activation?

But I'm sure if that's so, there must be cracks circulated on web.

Althea
03-11-2011, 03:22 PM
Thing is, that if my information is correct this game requires online activation?

But I'm sure if that's so, there must be cracks circulated on web.
It's a Steamworks title.

Kaira-
03-11-2011, 03:22 PM
Thing is, that if my information is correct this game requires online activation?

But I'm sure if that's so, there must be cracks circulated on web.

Isn't New Vegas Steamworks DRM? This is what I remember.

db1331
03-11-2011, 03:30 PM
I think I'll wait for next year's Christmas sale and get it then.

Drake Sigar
03-11-2011, 03:38 PM
Wasn't the DRM removed for the Fallout 3 collection? Maybe they'll do the same thing here.

Bristoff
03-11-2011, 03:41 PM
I got New Vegas about 6 months ago from a retailer for about €15, then bought the first 3 DLC's on steam sale at €3-3-5 respectively, only missing Lonesome road really. Fallout 3 GOTY is still €30 on steam, and I doubt the Ultimate New Vegas will be lower than that. So I haven't really spent much more than I would have getting the game before it came out :) (Betting Lonesome Road will be €5 in the christmas sale).

Still, it's a really good game. If you haven't played it yet I strongly recommend picking up that edition when it comes out.

Also, unlike FO3 GOTY New Vegas doesn't have any G4WL crap, so you won't have to deal with that.

Althea
03-11-2011, 03:49 PM
Wasn't the DRM removed for the Fallout 3 collection? Maybe they'll do the same thing here.
Nope. It still uses SecuROM and GfWL.

airtekh
03-11-2011, 03:52 PM
I'm not a huge Fallout fan, but I played Fallout 3 recently and thought it was decent enough.

Is New Vegas more of the same or is it different in any significant way?

Bristoff
03-11-2011, 03:56 PM
I'm not a huge Fallout fan, but I played Fallout 3 recently and thought it was decent enough.

Is New Vegas more of the same or is it different in any significant way?

The main storyline is much better, and the game points you in the direction of the story most of the time. Not in any annoying or pushy way, they just learned from their mistake in FO3 where the main story definitely was the low point of the game. The skills have been overhauled, and from my point of view it ended up better than FO3 where some skills were useless or split into various things for no obvious reason.

It does feel a bit more linear than FO3, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. At least in my opinion.

Althea
03-11-2011, 04:07 PM
they just learned from their mistake in FO3 where the main story definitely was the low point of the game.
They? It's a different developer with a different writing team.

I'd actually disagree and say I found New Vegas' story perhaps a bit complex and almost directionless. It also falls into the trap, at least if you go against the Legion, of putting you into a bit of a daft final boss fight. Fallout 3's story, especially post-DLC, wasn't ever really the main focus. It was there, sure, and you were guided towards it, but it was never hanging over you too much.

I mean FO3 vs New Vegas is really hard for me, because I loved both, but for different reasons. I loved the "simplicity" of Fallout 3, I guess. I loved going where I wanted, finding new areas that were really diverse, I loved kicking arse with my plasma rifle and Reilly's Ranger armour, and I never got that in New Vegas. I thought it was fairly well balanced, plus it had... I wouldn't say a charm, but I thought it was a great entry point into the series.

In New Vegas, I loved just wandering and seeing what I could find, plus there were a lot of smaller quests around. I found the game unbalanced, though, and it can really screw you over. Deathclaws are now pretty much walking instant-death monsters (Not always a bad thing, I'll admit), and I think the Legion Assassins are just annoying and really take away from the game for me. It also throws way too many items at you that are similar. There's a billion and one pistols, there's eight thousand shotguns (Obviously I'm exaggerating), there's tonnes of rifles. It seems complex for the sake of it, not because it balances the game.

New Vegas is better for a deeper experience, but I think Fallout 3 for me was just more fun 'n' stuff.

Nalano
03-11-2011, 04:07 PM
Is New Vegas more of the same or is it different in any significant way?

Same UI and general gameplay, but Obsidian did the story and I, for one, find that to make a world of difference.


I'd actually disagree and say I found New Vegas' story perhaps a bit complex and almost directionless.

Directionless? There's a war, and there's three distinct sides. Pick a side, or no side at all. That's it.

Althea
03-11-2011, 04:47 PM
Directionless? There's a war, and there's three distinct sides. Pick a side, or no side at all. That's it.
Wild Cards was annoying as hell. I wanted to go NCR, yet for some reason the game decided I was actually more interested in Mr House, and kept sending me everywhere. It should have been three separate quest lines (i.e. one per faction), not some irritating conglomeration.

Drinking with Skeletons
03-11-2011, 05:03 PM
I'll agree about being somewhat overwhelmed by the number of items. The big problem for me is that although there are seemingly a million different items to be found, the game can be really finicky about what items match up for repair purposes (even with the Jury Rig perk). For example, what items can be used to repair SPOILER Joshua Graham's armor END SPOILER ? The only items I've found are really rare in their own right, making it prohibitively expensive to keep this armor in repair.

Also, the DLC that adds in all of the pre-order stuff? They might as well have just given you more caps, because burdening a character with pounds upon pounds of largely average items right at the beginning of the game is just hastening the inevitable realization that the game should really have been called Inventory Management Tycoon.

Bristoff
03-11-2011, 05:04 PM
Wild Cards was annoying as hell. I wanted to go NCR, yet for some reason the game decided I was actually more interested in Mr House, and kept sending me everywhere. It should have been three separate quest lines (i.e. one per faction), not some irritating conglomeration.

Wild cards wasn't bad for me as by that point I'd already explored (and finished) most of the related areas and quests, so it didn't take too long, but I agree they weren't the best part of the game. I still felt it was a much better experience than FO3, but I really wish they would make a DLC that extended the main storyline, as they did with Broken Steel for the original.

Althea
03-11-2011, 05:07 PM
For example, what items can be used to repair SPOILER Joshua Graham's armor END SPOILER ? The only items I've found are really rare in their own right, making it prohibitively expensive to keep this armor in repair.
Really? It's easy. I think Merc armour can be used with Jury Rigging.


Also, the DLC that adds in all of the pre-order stuff? They might as well have just given you more caps, because burdening a character with pounds upon pounds of largely average items right at the beginning of the game is just hastening the inevitable realization that the game should really have been called Inventory Management Tycoon.
I think you choose which pack you start with, not all four. You only get all four - I think - if you load up an existing character.

Drinking with Skeletons
03-11-2011, 05:21 PM
Really? It's easy. I think Merc armour can be used with Jury Rigging.

Maybe I just didn't play enough after completing Honest Hearts (I didn't have much left to do in the Mojave with that character by the time the DLC came out), and Old World Blues featured a lot of equipment adjustment. I do know that the Marked Ones' armor in Lonesome Road did not count for repairing it, which annoyed me (although the General's Suit you can find did). Well, what can repair the Stealth suit from Old World Blues?

Althea
03-11-2011, 05:22 PM
Well, what can repair the Stealth suit from Old World Blues?
I could be wrong, but I think metal armour or combat armour. There's more info on The Vault (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Stealth_suit_Mk_II)

Lukasz
03-11-2011, 05:51 PM
yay. been waiting for it. love obsidian games, love fallout but the game was released when i had more important stuff to buy than games.
feb. is ideal time.

Nalano
03-11-2011, 08:37 PM
Wild Cards was annoying as hell. I wanted to go NCR, yet for some reason the game decided I was actually more interested in Mr House, and kept sending me everywhere. It should have been three separate quest lines (i.e. one per faction), not some irritating conglomeration.

It did. It just didn't lock you out of any of them until you did something to kill/piss off that faction. A number of the factions want the same things.


Maybe I just didn't play enough after completing Honest Hearts (I didn't have much left to do in the Mojave with that character by the time the DLC came out), and Old World Blues featured a lot of equipment adjustment. I do know that the Marked Ones' armor in Lonesome Road did not count for repairing it, which annoyed me (although the General's Suit you can find did). Well, what can repair the Stealth suit from Old World Blues?

With Jury Rigging, all light armors can repair all light armors. All medium armors can repair all medium armors. Et cetera.

This actually makes the Legion assassin squads quite useful, since they always come around with a variety of weapons and armor to patch you up after you murder them.

airtekh
04-11-2011, 12:09 AM
@lots of people

Thanks for the feedback. It sounds like New Vegas is worth investigating.

TailSwallower
04-11-2011, 02:01 AM
New Vegas is better in just about every regard than Fallout 3 (IMHO, though most people seem to agree), but at the same time it is also built with the same engine and many of the same resources, so it can feel very samey. I played probably 150 hours of Fallout 3, but only managed to play through New Vegas once (so far, I will get back to it one day), because it was too similar to engage with in the same way.

So yeah, it's definitely worth playing, but if you burnt yourself out on Fallout 3 then NV isn't really different enough.

Anyway, sold NV on 360 and bought it on PC about two or three months ago. I've barely touched it, so I really should have held off since we all knew some sort of complete edition would come along eventually. Oh well, I'm sure the DLCs will be on sale over Christmas.

vinraith
04-11-2011, 02:04 AM
Wasn't the DRM removed for the Fallout 3 collection? Maybe they'll do the same thing here.

No one ever removes Steamworks from anything, unfortunately.

Squiz
04-11-2011, 08:48 AM
Anyway, sold NV on 360 and bought it on PC about two or three months ago. I've barely touched it, so I really should have held off since we all knew some sort of complete edition would come along eventually. Oh well, I'm sure the DLCs will be on sale over Christmas.I feel sorry for the people playing Fallout 3 and/or NV on a console, without mod access. Mods are the thing that makes these games shine.

Concerning the pricing: I don't regret buying the game before release of the Collector's Edition. I bought the main game in the first Steam sale to feature it (which took place shortly after the initial release) and three DLCs afterwards in other sales, so I didn't really pay that much more (if at all) than the CE's price (assuming it will be the same as Fallout 3 CE's) if I wait for the rest of the content to be reduced in price. The Fallout 3 CE taught me that too much DLC at once can be a burden and I enjoyed playing through the NV's extra content bit by bit.

Highly recommendable game if you are willing to spend some time installing (and maybe testing) mods.