View Full Version : RPS Blood Bowl Stunty Tournament – The Gauntlin Goblet!
DarkFenix
12-01-2012, 01:28 PM
In fact Eski you're due to play me from the off, twice. I've added you on Steam so we can find a time to play, I ought to have the next few days free.
Kelron
12-01-2012, 09:31 PM
Smushed many Snotlings in a 2-0 victory over Snoozer's Ogres.
Vexing Vision
13-01-2012, 09:53 AM
Drawlien! We will soon have a REMATCH. Of BLOOD and PAIN and GLORY TO THE GOBLINS.
However, I'm fleeing country and won't be back until the 20th, at which point I will be utterly and thoroughly dead. So, 21./22. would be nice for a match.
drawlien
13-01-2012, 03:58 PM
Hi VV. I will be away that weekend so how about the 25th, 26th or 27th (is that within the deadline? Stupid work computers not allowing GoogleDocs). If they are outwith the deadline I could do the 23rd but would rather not.
Screwie
13-01-2012, 04:18 PM
...the 25th, 26th or 27th (is that within the deadline?)
Sure why not.
DarkFenix
13-01-2012, 06:26 PM
Mine and Eski's game needs resetting, his game crashed before kick-off and it awarded me the win.
Screwie
13-01-2012, 06:38 PM
Alright, I've reset that match for you!
DarkFenix
13-01-2012, 08:11 PM
Bend Ogre 2 - No Solids Crew 0
Three words sum this game up quite nicely: Nine injured halflings.
Where the armour/injury dice usually hate me, today they were almost unanimously in my favour. It started off looking so good for the poor halflings, the chef stealing two rerolls and a blitz event. Fortunately the 'flings aren't exactly the best team to take advantage of a blitz, so little came of it. And so ended the halflings' hopes. The very next turn the impossible happened, a treeman went off injured, rescued from harm by the apothecary, but losing your apoth within a turn is never a good sign for any team and any halfling player can probably attest that you absolutely cannot afford to lose a tree from play.
The rest of the half entirely consisted a small cage of snotlings moving up the field while the ogres ran rampant through the poor unprotected halflings (the remaining tree being predictably immobile and helpless in a mobile game). Halfling injuries were coming in thick and fast, one per turn generally plus two on one turn. By turn 5 all of Eski's subs were spoken for, by the end of the half he was down to 8 players on pitch (one 'fling unconscious, 6 or 7 injured) as a snotling ran in my first touchdown. 1-0.
The second half was equally brutal, albeit not so one-sidedly. The short-handedness of the halfling team meant that apart from a lucky TTM a goal was never a realistic possibility, but this time the treemen stayed on and fought (albeit in rather stationary fashion, but this time I boxed the 'flings in rather than having to chase them around). Another two or three halflings went off injured, this time accompanied by two snotlings. An Ogre ran in a second touchdown just before the end. 2-0.
Screwie
13-01-2012, 08:20 PM
Ouch, sounds like Eski had a hard time of that one...
Day 4 has ended, just two more matches before the winners in each group meet in the playoffs!
The provisional deadline for Day 5 is the 27th.
Jiiiiim
13-01-2012, 11:32 PM
Gorm! I will FIGHT YOU! When?
moondogjazz
14-01-2012, 10:20 AM
NieA7, I think we're scheduled to play next. When is convenient? I should be ok for Sunday and Monday evening (from about 6pm).
NieA7
14-01-2012, 12:05 PM
Tomorrow evening should be good, 6:00pm?
Just played Jim, he beat me 2-0 but i feel it was actually a really close game. Both the TD's were near the end of the 2nd half the rest of the game could have gone either way.
Jiiiiim
14-01-2012, 02:22 PM
Three things that probably decided the game
1: Towards the end of the first half, despite bash dominance, I had lost the ball but had it surrounded. Gorm went to scoop it up with his pogoer, failed the pickup but the crowd threw it practically to my endzone where the only guy in range was a single happy looking goblin. I scrambled some desperate defence around the guy and was pretty confident he wouldn't be able to get out, get the ball and do anything of use. And so he leapt his pogoer for a one dice blitz on one of the halflings, getting a pow, then dodged the happy goblin away from my diving tackle halfling, picked the ball up from next to yet another of my flings, dodged away and managed 2 GFIs. Without a reroll. He was now one square away from the touchline, holding the ball. After messing up my throw team mate all I could do is get a single tackle zone on that happy goblin, and so all he had to do was a simple dodge to score and end the half. And, of course, after all the ridiculousness that had got him to that position, he messed up the dodge. Gorm's "damn" in chat was a lot more restrained than what I'd have said in that situation.
2: Bombardier had been saved for the second half except apparently we'd all brought tennis racquets. First my treeman caught the bomb then threw it at a goblin to win a turnover, then, a couple of turns later, my ball carrier caught the bomb (presumably juggling it with the ball), hurled it at a troll, who also caught it, but then accidentally ate the bomb instead of continuing our game of hot potato. After that, the field was clear enough for me to chuck the carrier into scoring range and make it 1-0.
3: Gorm had 0 rerolls throughout the entire game. He lost all his starting ones to my halfling master chef, both halves. He didn't win one on a kickoff event. He spent the entire thing at the mercy of lady luck, and managed to stave her off until the final few turns, at which point he failed to pick up the ball about four times in a row while my halflings gradually got closer. After the fourth failure, he was blitzed, with the blitzing fling immediately picking up the ball first time. "That's how you do it", I think I said. The goblin didn't respond. 2-0.
moondogjazz
14-01-2012, 02:24 PM
Tomorrow evening should be good, 6:00pm?
Yeah, 6pm should be good, see you then :).
<snip>...2: Bombardier had been saved for the second half except apparently we'd all brought tennis racquets. First my treeman caught the bomb then threw it at a goblin to win a turnover, then, a couple of turns later, my ball carrier caught the bomb (presumably juggling it with the ball), hurled it at a troll, who also caught it, but then accidentally ate the bomb instead of continuing our game of hot potato. After that, the field was clear enough for me to chuck the carrier into scoring range and make it 1-0...<snip>
Did he drop the bomb or did he actually eat it? If he ate it - PMSL, I did not know they could do that (I know they can eat teammates ofc).
Screwie
14-01-2012, 07:56 PM
Hmm, that would be news to me too.
(On a related note yes, carrying the ball does not stop you catching a bomb... one of the first things I found out with the bomber :( )
Jiiiiim
14-01-2012, 08:26 PM
He didn't actually eat it, he only fumbled it. Still, I like to imagine that 1 on the pass roll represents him eating the bomb in a fit of confusion.
NieA7
16-01-2012, 09:40 PM
moondogjazz and I played an exceptionally bloody game yesterday, the Halflings of Piemageddon vying with the Gobbo Philanthropists to see who'd come first in a "kick 'em in the nuts" contest.
In the end it was The Philanthropists that won...
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/NieAUnder7/PieCas.jpg
(Not pictured: 4 KOs and a dead halfling, apo'd back to life)
Although not without Piemageddon giving them a good run for their money
http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/NieAUnder7/PhilCas.jpg
(Not pictured: 3 KOs and a troll with fractured skull, apo'd to badly hurt)
Alfred Nobel had another unbelievable match with his bombs, knocking down, then stunning and finally badly hurting a treeman he took a particular dislike to (not to mention KO'ing the ball carrier at the same time). As if that wasn't enough he then withstood every attempt to punch his lights out, skipping merrily through the hail of blows as if he 'twer a butterfly born aloft on the gentle breeze of an explosion.
Bono, alas, has played his last though. After successfully stunning the remaining treeman with his first chainsaw attack a succession of turnovers saw him standing next to the mighty creature when it finally stood back up again. Apparently his amateur arboricultural sculpture attempt was not appreciated - the treeman killed him stone dead with a single blow. RIP Bono, you useless masochistic waste of space, you will be missed.
3-0 to the Philanthropists at full time, with a bumper crop of skill-ups to follow (5 if I've done the sums right, including one each on the trolls). Coming soon to a pitch near you, a rematch the Gobbos have been waiting for since their very first game: The Tiny Little Presidents. This time, it's personal.
Screwie
19-01-2012, 12:03 PM
Looking forward to an interesting game against Tom O'Bedlam tonight (if all goes to plan).
I can no longer catch up to Jiim's lead in our group, but Tom can. So if I do win tonight I not only assure Jiiim wins our group, I screw his only remaining competitor as well...
President Weasel
19-01-2012, 12:13 PM
Looks like I need to play Lowkey at some point this week. Give me a shout when you're available and we'll sort something out.
Why's it personal, by the way, NieA7? I was planning to brutalise your goblins in a purely impersonal way.
groovychainsaw
19-01-2012, 06:17 PM
Ntw, I'm free tonight if you want to play our EPIC match...
NieA7
19-01-2012, 07:43 PM
Why's it personal, by the way, NieA7? I was planning to brutalise your goblins in a purely impersonal way.
Well obviously I wouldn't be dim enough to throw the goblin with the ball into the crowd to die, it must've been some malign influence you put on poor Shakira.
Vexing Vision
21-01-2012, 06:28 AM
Hi VV. I will be away that weekend so how about the 25th, 26th or 27th (is that within the deadline? Stupid work computers not allowing GoogleDocs). If they are outwith the deadline I could do the 23rd but would rather not.
A goblinoid evening-date on the 26th (that's Thursday, right?) sounds perfect! Shall we say 20:00-20:30 UK time?
drawlien
21-01-2012, 07:01 AM
A goblinoid evening-date on the 26th (that's Thursday, right?) sounds perfect! Shall we say 20:00-20:30 UK time?
Well as long as Halflingoids are allowed too... Thursday 8pm GMT sounds great to me.
*Another* disastrous outing for the Friendly Little Fellas resulted in a 2-0 loss to GC's Ogres.
Either I simply cannot manage the increased risks of playing stuntyball, or I suck as a coach. The only alternative explanation would be that Nuffle is inflicting dice-based revenge on me for some previous transgression.
LowKey
21-01-2012, 12:12 PM
Mr President I am out this and sunday evening but should be around in the day to play, ill hang around on steam so just buzz me if you're free
DarkFenix
22-01-2012, 12:28 AM
Played Eski again earlier, extremely dull 1-0 win for me. Rained all match and couldn't catch a break from shitty rolls all first half and most of the second (only reason I scored second half was because Eski started getting shitty rolls too).
Only one snotling injured and two halflings.
President Weasel
22-01-2012, 09:21 AM
Mr President I am out this and sunday evening but should be around in the day to play, ill hang around on steam so just buzz me if you're free
I sent you steam messages and you ignored them and kept playing XCOM you bounder.
LowKey
22-01-2012, 09:28 AM
Haha sorry about that they didn't pop up in the game so i didn't see your response until i quit, ill be on steam all day so just give me a shout when you're free before
Screwie
23-01-2012, 08:48 AM
Bully Culprits (Goblin, me) vs Blighty's Stuntys (Ogre, Tom O'Bedlam)
It was a brutal game. In the first half I pretty much destroyed Tom's team with a slow cage advance. My bomber threw gold, causing loads of hurt. My looney injured a snot on his first turn and then spent three consecutive turns fouling an ogre with 4-5 assists, but amazingly he was still taken off the pitch before the big guy was.
I scored in turn 8 of the first half, when Tom only had an ogre and two snots left on the pitch. With a goal down and the slow dripfeed of players returning from KO, he was on the backfoot for the rest of the game.
He went for a quick TTM-TD to even the score, but after his snotling landed poorly (and very nearly off the pitch) I took possession of the ball and scored again. That was that.
Final Score: 2 - 0 to the Bully Culprits
It was (in Tom's words) a massacre. I think the crucial moment was very early in the game, when Tom's ogres were taken out of action. One ogre alone was not enough to beat out the goblin cage, even ignoring the trolls acting as bookends. Still Tom was a good sport about it all and I've had much tougher matches against him in the past. Cheers man.
---
After the game I validated all the matches that had been done. As I'm away next weekend, I've put back the deadline to Sunday night. If you're still on Day 5, you have seven days to get your game on!
Kelron
24-01-2012, 08:56 PM
1-0 victory over Indefatigible Snoozer maintains my lead in Div 4, but it looks like it's the only division where the winner is not yet decided.
NieA7
24-01-2012, 09:03 PM
Don't think Div A's decided yet, if President Weasel beats LowKey and then me he'd get through as our previous game was a draw. Not that I keep checking to see whether they've played each other yet or anything.
Kelron
24-01-2012, 09:51 PM
Don't think Div A's decided yet, if President Weasel beats LowKey and then me he'd get through as our previous game was a draw. Not that I keep checking to see whether they've played each other yet or anything.
Indeed, neither is div 3. Didn't pay attention to unplayed games when I looked before.
Vexing Vision
26-01-2012, 06:22 PM
Hoy drawlien, you can ping me on Steam when you're ready. I'll probably need a bit of time then.
Vexing Vision
26-01-2012, 08:25 PM
In a STUNNING (literally) display of skill, the Shortstuff Stumblers faced off in a highly anticipated rematch against the Fat Fred Flings, who both outplayed AND outeat the Stumblers during their first meeting.
Incredible techniques were shown on both sides of the pitch (causing many self-inflicted injuries), and the crowd showed appropriate approval by throwing valuable rocks at the halflings.
A few highlights of the first Half!
The Stumblers start with their bombardier on the field as the Flings decide to receive first, in a (fairly misguided) attempt to cause havoc on the LoS later in the game. The ever present halfling cook annoyingly steals half of the Stumbler's rerolls, and brings Zara on board to deal with the super powerful army of my (one) strength 3 goblins!
The Bombardier burns through the remaining rerolls within two turns, first stunning one corner of the half-hazard cage the halflings throw up, then engaging with an exciting Hot Potatoe match against the ball-carrier. Thankfully, after two passes back and forth, the halfling takes the "Hot Potatoe" a bit too literal and attempts to take a bite of it, blowing himself and the ball up.
Zara and the trees are taking their toll though, and in turn 6, an unchallenged halfling manages to score 0 - 1.
The goblins bring out their main offensive weapons - with Steelball, the fastest Fanatic this side of a termite mound proving his worth by knocking the chopped tree around, mentally scarring it forever. However, that one turn of stunning skill display was all they got, as a troll makes a perfect throw of a goblin who makes the one GFI necessary to score the 1 - 1.
With one turn left, the Halflings attempt to do the same. A tree grabs the ball-carrier, aims, and throws perfectly. The halfling would have only needed two GFIs to take the lead again... if it hadn't been for the lone goblin standing on EXACTLY the right spot the halfling attempted to land on, and the half ends with no change to the score.
The second half sees both teams slightly exhausted but willing to show some SKILL. Especially after a rock-solid advice from the halfling fans encourages them.
And skill it was, with both Goblins and Halflings showing amazing wrestling skills - just without the wrestling skill. Every second block ends with both participants on the ground, and here the weakened armor of the Halflings FINALLY starts to show, injuring them left and right and then left again.
By turn 15, there are two (rooted) trees left and a handful of goblins marching in a turn 16 2-1 touchdown for the Stumblers.
The Flings' final turn sees Zara flanked by their two trees at the LoS. Try as they might, Zara proves to heavy to throw, and so the bloody game ends 2-1 for the Stumblers, who suffered one Goblindeath and caused countless of injuries. Unlike the trolls.
Cheers drawlien for the match - this makes the final game of the season quite interesting!
drawlien
27-01-2012, 07:21 AM
Yes thanks for the write-up VV. I'd only add that Zara was largely useless apart from scaring off a few gobbo's in the first half. The 1st turn of the second she went for a blitz and rolled AD-AD which got lonered on the re-roll and caused a KO.
If I draw against Groovy and VV wins against ntw then it will be a draw for the lead in our division....
Vex - you and me for what will be the last game in the Friendly Little Fellas disastrous campaign for Stunty glory. Usual story - available most evenings after 8:30pm UK, not tonight and probably not Tuesday though.
Vexing Vision
27-01-2012, 08:55 AM
Work-life is a bit beyond crazy at the moment, dearest ntw. Why don't you have some tea while we wait for an opportunity to arise? I made you something nice.
I think we can start realistically looking at something next week's Sunday. Or maybe even this Sunday if the league rolls on fast enough.
Screwie
29-01-2012, 04:54 PM
Alrighty, I validated what games were done.
The only match outstanding is Lowkey vs President Weasel. Do you guys need more time for it?
LowKey
29-01-2012, 06:53 PM
Hmm if I am honest I forgot we hadn't played, I buzzed Pres earlier but no response, I can play this evening but if not perhaps a default would be necessary
Screwie
30-01-2012, 08:26 AM
I'd rather not default on it to be honest, since a draw would make NieA7's lead in your group unreachable. :(
If you two can organise a match to take place within the next couple of days, I'll wait. If that's not possible then I'll have to default.
LowKey
30-01-2012, 08:51 AM
Okay dokey ill be on from 8 tonight president if you're about
PW posted in another thread suggesting that he is currently without BB...
Screwie
30-01-2012, 09:21 AM
Yeah, I just saw that. Bum :(
Anyone know if it's possible to use Dropbox to pass over a BB installation?
LowKey
30-01-2012, 09:22 AM
So he has, well the decision is yours screwie
NieA7
30-01-2012, 09:22 PM
For what it's worth I don't mind waiting, though it's up to moondogjazz as well of course. I would like to know why my lead being unreachable is such a sad thing for you though Screwie :p
Screwie
31-01-2012, 08:32 AM
Because then the Day 6 game would have less meaning :P
I would rather get PW's input on this before defaulting, as he is the player currently still in reach of first place.
I will pester him before making a decision.
President Weasel
31-01-2012, 09:48 AM
default it, sorry to hold things up. Lowkey made more of an effort to play the game than I did - although I tend to only see the Steam messages hours after they're sent when I finally log out of Star Wars or Battle Man Shooty Fields.
(and now I am temporarily without BB)
Screwie
31-01-2012, 10:26 AM
Okay then, I'll put it to a 0-0 tie (since you've both made efforts to arrange the match more than once) and get the competition's day rolled on tonight.
When do you want to play then Screwie?
drawlien
31-01-2012, 11:44 AM
Hey Groovy, sorry I didn't reply on Steam last night but it looks like we couldn't have played then after all! I am free most evenings this week apart from Thursday so you can catch me on Steam if you like or if you have a particular day that's good for you let me know here!
Screwie
31-01-2012, 11:54 AM
@drawlien: Yep, unlike the Divisions of Death this tournament is listed as a single league in-game, so I can only roll on a day once all 4 groups are ready. Apologies for the delay.
@Gorm: Thursday of Friday evening after 8pm, or any time at the weekend. If I don't already have a game against Jolima tonight then potentially tonight from 10pm also.
groovychainsaw
31-01-2012, 11:54 AM
Hi Drawlien - I got a busy week - I'll see if I can catch you on steam at all rather than fixing a day yet. No worries about missing me last night though, it was always a bit speculative :-)
Vexing Vision
31-01-2012, 05:53 PM
ntw, you despicable but lovable person, I am heading home now.
I would be willing and ready to match it out with you in 90 minutes.
Rawr.
Screwie
31-01-2012, 06:35 PM
Ok, Day 6 is upon us! For some this might just be a nice winding down game. For others, key preparation for the playoffs. For other others, it's all still left to play for!
Day 6 is due to end on the evening of Friday 10th February. Good luck!
NieA7
31-01-2012, 07:53 PM
Gotta say I've really enjoyed these stunty games, had any thoughts about continuing them after the cup? Perhaps we could have a stunty open or something, if enough people are interested.
Another crushing loss for the Friendly Little Fellas.
I just cannot cope with the *randomness* of them. It was particularly galling when I Snake-Eyes'd a GFI to take the lead, then rolled DEAD.
Vexing Vision
31-01-2012, 10:02 PM
So, this game of the Stumblers versus ntw's Friendly Fellas was a homage to Nuffle and Pain.
The Stumblers elect to receive to do some carnage before their weaponteam gets inevitably sent off. And indeed (or "ahoy"), the first turn knocks down both trolls and KO's the Fanatic with a well-aimed bomb, kills a goblin with a chainsaw and badly hurts another goblin by NUTSHELL THE MINI-ORC, who would continue to be the str-3 terror of the match.
Alas, my luck lasts exactly until the end of the turn, which ends with a triple skull from my troll.
The second turn knocks out my ball-carrier and KO's my chainsaw with my own bomb, which was passing back and forth and finally accidentally dropped by the recent catcher, and I'm completely unable to recover the ball which ntw uses to score in turn 4.
Which brings his heavy weapon team to the spot.
Which I cancel with a perfectly thrown goblin who makes the perfect run to the endzone while holding the ball before ntw even gets to move one of them.
The rest of the first half is angry wailing and the gnashing of teeth and ends 1-1 with the ball somewhere half-forgotten near a sideline.
ntw lines up to cage towards my zone, breaks through by turn 12 and needs one more GFI to score.
Which fails, of COURSE killing the lone Goblin, while his companions are pinned by my Stumblers.
I have 4 turns in which to bring the ball home - by now there's not many players left on the field. An unfortunate Really Stupid roll (lonered, too) leaves my ball-carrier quietly exposed, but the goblin attempting to move in for the takedown fails his first dodge - and Shortleap the Pogoer poncies unopposed to the opponent's touchdown line in Turn 16, ending the game 2-1 for the Stumblers and no major injuries.
Jiiiiim
31-01-2012, 10:21 PM
My last game against Tom O'Bedlam's ogres was, uh, painful. The first half was played in a blizzard and I couldn't afford a master chef in inducements so it was a tentative affair. I received and watched a succession of snotlings either get knocked out or knock themselves out while I walked down the field, unopposed. I tried a pass to get a quick score but the game wasn't having it and once the ball was on the floor, that was it. For turn after turn I failed to knock any snotlings over or pick up the ball, and for turn after turn Tom would dodge his snotlings into about eight tackle zones, pick up the ball, and then just lose it to a diving tackle or failed GFI. This was like a game of cat and mouse if the cat was a mouse and the mouse was dead. Finally in turn 7 I managed to pick it up and score. The first cas of the game waited until the end of the first half, a broken shoulder on a snotling that was apothecaried. 1-0 to me at half-time.
Tom sets up for a one-turned at the start of the second but instead fakes left, placing two guard ogres around a snotling right on the sideline. I can't get in to smack him because of all that guard so settle for smothering that formation, and after Tom's snotlings just relentlessly get tripped up by Diving Tackle, failed GFIs, or simple ennui, we push into that ogre cage, surfing one off the pitch with a tree and keeping the other one down under lock and key. The ball now recovered, it's a second boring procession to the touchline to make it 2-0 on turn 16. At some point my treeman tried to throw my halfling, and dropped and killed him (fortunately the Apothecary was on hand.) But mainly the massively fragile armour of the snots, plus my ridiculous quantity of diving tackle, made this a bit of a straightforward victory.
ONWARDS TO THE SEMI FINALS
There was also a very good spontaneous Andre the Giant setup and punchline which made my night, just thought I'd mention that.
Kelron
31-01-2012, 10:38 PM
Eski, when play? Free all day thursday and saturday before the evening.
Vexing Vision
01-02-2012, 08:29 AM
I would love to watch Groovy's and drawlien's match Live, as it'll decide the Division-lead. When are you guys going for it? Can you live-tweet it? :D
groovychainsaw
01-02-2012, 09:13 AM
For a second there, i thought you meant I could still top the group. But no - Third place is the best I can achieve. And i'm already in 3rd place :-D.
As for live-streaming the game, its not something I've done before and I'm a bit tight on time this week, making setting it up with Drawlien a bit tricky. 'Course, if drawlien wants to set it up, I have no complaints, whoever wants to see how hilariously rubbish our teams are can view it in that case (Although I have all 4 Ogres this time Drawlien, I will bash some halflings with them!)
Screwie
01-02-2012, 09:25 AM
Gotta say I've really enjoyed these stunty games, had any thoughts about continuing them after the cup? Perhaps we could have a stunty open or something, if enough people are interested.
I was toying with the idea that the teams could return for an eventual second season. However a Stunty Challenge open league might also do the trick. It might also be a good place to test if a Saurus-deficient Lizardman team is truly Stunty or not.
Another crushing loss for the Friendly Little Fellas.
I just cannot cope with the *randomness* of them. It was particularly galling when I Snake-Eyes'd a GFI to take the lead, then rolled DEAD.
I was about to write a comment about how I really dislike playing Halfings, but then realised your team name was sarcastic and you had Goblins, so... heh.
I find Goblins have the advantage of a broader range of tactics than the other Stunties thanks to their Secret Weapons and their (weirdly) superior linemen, but you do have to pay for this with randomness. They're the only team that has to deal with big guy Loners (not to mention Really Stupiders and Always Hungriers), for example...
TBH - after their (my?) performance in this competition, I'm not sure Friendly Little Fellas is sarcastic...
drawlien
01-02-2012, 10:25 AM
I have no idea how to go about live-streaming. If anyone wants to show me to a good guide then I will give it a go.
I think the skinks are too fast for a stunty league to be honest.
Screwie
01-02-2012, 02:47 PM
I think the skinks are too fast for a stunty league to be honest.
At the same time for +2 MA, they're 50% more expensive than Goblins and don't have the Right Stuff. Also the team would have only 1 big guy on the roster (and a Loner to boot).
Their speed might make them very competitive in a Stunty league (a fast moving cage, for one thing), but on the other hand they still have a lot of drawbacks. The more expensive players mean you're going to get worse TV bloat, and you're going to be out-muscled by everyone.
I dunno.
It was suggested before the start of this tournament, and while I vetoed it as an unknown (also it's pretty difficult to enforce an unofficial team make-up with Cyanide's admin tools) it is still worth exploring at one point. An open Stunty league might be the place for that, or I might just have talked myself into my next team pick for the DoD...
Jiiiiim
01-02-2012, 02:57 PM
Thing with halflings is that they're uniform in their awfulness. The thing that turned me off goblins is that they lose so much kick when the weapons get sent off. Snotlings place so much emphasis on a couple of ogres performing. But Halflings just carry on, being a bit crap.
groovychainsaw
01-02-2012, 03:03 PM
My concern for a 'for fun' stunty league was the MA8 combined with dodge and stunty. The lack of tackle (and access to tackle) in a stunty league and the typical MA5 of an ogre or halfling team means those skinks could be seriously effective unless you can smash the majority of them fast or get lucky with them failing a dodge. Its not impossible, but you'd need to handicap the skink team a bit to make it work and I don't want to even start suggesting how you'd go about doing that, a strict limit on saurii, maybe? No krox? And then the expensive skinks don't cause the team inflation so much... tricky.
I'm well up for another season of stunty-bashing, regardless, makes a nice change of pace from the VERY SERIOUS games in the other leagues :-).
/@Jiiim - snotlings put a lot of emphasis on 4-6 ogres performing, which helps when you get the numbers :-D. My biggest problem this season? MNG injuries on my ogres...
Screwie
01-02-2012, 03:15 PM
The other teams can always use TTM to keep up ;)
A single Kroxigor, in a league where every other team has at least two big guys, makes them of dubious worth as it is. I suppose you could trade in the Krox for 2(?) Saurus but I'm loathe to give the Skink team more capable players.
I'm going to have to make a Skink team for the Challenge League and try a few friendlies now.
groovychainsaw
01-02-2012, 03:29 PM
I'd like to see how well the team worked with 10 skinks and a krox, I'd be interested in the results of that challenge league testing :-). I suspect it would still be a surprisingly effective team against other stunties (and would be getting some good inducements, as the starting team would be worth about 750k?). The pace in the side over 10 players would be a handful, but maybe the opposing big guys would have fun bashing the skinks. That 8MA means a potential 10 square move. Thats tough for an MA5 team to cover off (I like your optimism that a single thrown snotling is the solution though - you obviously haven't witnessed my ogre's throwing abilities....). They're also tough, of course. AV7 is very high for stunties :-D (says the snotling coach...).
It's an interesting setup, nonetheless, I await your results!
Is there a limit of 10 skinks then?
Screwie
01-02-2012, 03:40 PM
They're also tough, of course. AV7 is very high for stunties :-D (says the snotling coach...).
Take it from a Goblin coach... AV 7 on a Stunty doesn't count for much ;)
Actually the team is not all that cheap:
10 Skinks = 10 * 60k = 600k
1 Krox = 140k
Add to that 740k, 1 substitute and 2 TRRs (60k each), and you're at 920k already.
Is there a limit of 10 skinks then?
Competition Rules say 16 is the max. I think GC was just talking about the starting 11, minus the Krox.
groovychainsaw
01-02-2012, 03:47 PM
Yeah, i was talking about the number on the pitch. And yeah, I'd forgotten rerolls/apothecary :-D.
Also, unless you can play tonight Screwie it will have to be on Friday, or late Thursday.
NieA7
01-02-2012, 06:12 PM
I'd be interested to see how skinks/krox perform, but I don't think sauruses should be let in - even if there's a lower number than usual it'll still basically be a normal lizardman team, and a normal lizardman team is in no way a stunty team. I imagine halflings will struggle against them a bit, but gobbo's should be OK so long as they leave some cover behind - after all, the chainsaw will be super-effective and the pogo-er is just as maneuverable as the skinks. A single krox won't be hard to tie up either so there'll be at least one troll hanging about.
Ogres would be OK so long as they don't derp out, so they're in trouble I guess.
I think gobbos are a much stronger team than flings. They do suffer without the secret weapons, but a basic goblin is much better than a basic halfling while costing only 10k more. The extra MA has made all the difference in the games I've played so far, it's been comparatively easy to maintain a local numbers advantage even if I've been outnumbered on the pitch (and the lower AV has meant I've never been outnumbered by flings, even with the secret weapons sent off). Pried cometh before a fall though, I've got a feeling all stunty teams are walking a knife edge every turn - only takes one thing going wrong for the whole team to implode.
Screwie
01-02-2012, 06:54 PM
Also, unless you can play tonight Screwie it will have to be on Friday, or late Thursday.
Friday will be fine, no worries.
Vexing Vision
01-02-2012, 08:38 PM
20:32 - drawlien: i'm receiving, good weather
20:33 - drawlien: groovy setting up strong left with only snotlings on the LOS
20:34 - Vexing Vision: And you got Zara, I hear. :D
20:34 - Vexing Vision: AGAIN.
20:37 - drawlien: 2 injured snots from the trees
20:38 - drawlien: i've gone right to keep away from the tackle ogre
20:38 - Vexing Vision: I know that one very well...
20:42 - drawlien: zara got K.O.'d and i've just had a halfling K.O.'d from a trip
20:42 - drawlien: i've moved the ball just into groovy's half on the right, with 2 ogres and a swarm of snots nearby
20:43 - drawlien: tackle ogre blitzes but doesn't manage anything
20:44 - drawlien: a snot gets a knockdown and K.O.s a halfling. knocked down my treeman next to the ball carrier as well
20:47 - drawlien: pretty uneventful turn for me. tree didn't stand up. moved forward a bit more.
20:47 - drawlien: tackle ogre K.O.'s another fling
20:50 - drawlien: TD!
20:50 - Vexing Vision: Noooooooo. Which turn?
20:51 - drawlien: only turn 4 so plenty of time for a reply
20:51 - drawlien: only one K.O. got up
20:52 - drawlien: kick goes deep and i got perfect defence
20:53 - drawlien: 2 ogres on los 2 in backfield running back towards the ball
20:54 - drawlien: i still have 2 RR's groovy has none btw
20:56 - drawlien: a snot fouled a tree giving it a K.O.
20:56 - drawlien: i ran around a bit but didn't cause any damage
20:57 - drawlien: groovy's doing a lot of stuff before moving the ball
20:57 - drawlien: looking ominous
20:57 - drawlien: 2 stunned halflings
20:59 - Vexing Vision: I'll copy paste this log later as your match report by the way. :)
20:59 - drawlien: out of re-rolls now and stunned a halfling on a gfi
20:59 - drawlien: ok :)
21:00 - drawlien: tackle guy gets bonehead trying to blitz
21:00 - drawlien: groovy got antsy and tried a hand-off and throw but the snot was dropped!
21:02 - drawlien: i didn't manage much to stop further progress, stunning yet another of my own halflings
21:02 - drawlien: groovy tried to throw again having picked up but the snot fell badly and got injure
21:04 - drawlien: i pick up the ball and run away, tackle ogre comes to get him and only manages triple push
21:04 - drawlien: no more injuries and the half is over!
21:06 - Vexing Vision: Even your tree? Argh.
21:06 - drawlien: all KO's got up thankfully
21:06 - drawlien: feel a bit safer with zara back on
21:07 - drawlien: only got 1 re-roll with chef and groovy gets it right back
21:07 - drawlien: kicked off field
21:07 - drawlien: ball given to snot at the back
21:07 - drawlien: running down the middle
21:08 - drawlien: actually ball went to an ogre
21:11 - drawlien: he left the ogre exposed to a blitz from zara who knocked it down even though only 1d rolled!
21:11 - drawlien: ball picked up and run over towards the left of LOS still 2 squares in my half and i got a kind of cage
21:12 - drawlien: still got blitzed K.O.ing the fling but knocking the ogre down at the same time
21:15 - drawlien: so i pick it up with zara to make it a bit harder to knock the ball out
21:15 - drawlien: tackle ogre jumps up and stuns a fling but then falls over on the gfi!
21:15 - drawlien: zara is free!
21:18 - drawlien: move right and into groovy's half. manage to BH a snot but a lot of pushing apart from that
21:18 - drawlien: get a semi cage going around zara but then turnover when a fling is tripped over
21:19 - drawlien: groovy manages a few moves before getting BD on a tree to turnover
21:22 - drawlien: move further up the pitch, only one ogre in reach, still semi cage round zara
21:23 - drawlien: try to improve cage by throwing a fling at it but that almost hits zara and KO's the fling!
21:23 - drawlien: groovy tries same tactic but snot only falls over
21:24 - drawlien: he blitzes one corner of the cage hurting the fling and is in contact with zara now
21:26 - drawlien: TD!
21:26 - drawlien: zara dodged away from her markers and ran it in, passing a GFI
21:27 - drawlien: 2 - 0
21:28 - drawlien: ball kicked high and long
21:28 - drawlien: ogre tried to do a long pass!
21:28 - drawlien: iit failed
21:31 - drawlien: zara knocked down the nearby ogre and a fling picked up the ball
21:31 - drawlien: ogre tried to blitz the cage and fell over his own feet
21:33 - drawlien: moved ball into groovys half, left flank
21:33 - drawlien: get a screen going
21:34 - drawlien: ogre does amazing dodge but then falls over on the gfi to try and blitz the ball'fling
21:36 - drawlien: i was so excited i didn;t notice it was the final turn and tried going for the 3rd TD
21:37 - drawlien: still it's over now
20:31 - groovychainsaw: he has 380 in inducements! :-S
20:31 - Vexing Vision: KILL HIM.
20:31 - Vexing Vision: I NEED YOU TO WIN.
20:31 - groovychainsaw: if he steals my rerolls, ill be at the mercy of nuffle
20:33 - groovychainsaw: he's got zara :-S
20:33 - Vexing Vision: Who didn't do a thing for me. KILL HER.
20:33 - Vexing Vision: He used her against me too. No avail.
20:34 - groovychainsaw: lost 2 rerolls...
20:36 - Vexing Vision: If you win, I will buy you two beers.
20:36 - groovychainsaw: 2 snots badly hurt
20:37 - Vexing Vision: Better the snots than the Ogres this time!
20:39 - groovychainsaw: ko'd zara
20:39 - groovychainsaw: 2 boneheads
20:41 - Vexing Vision: Three beers?
20:48 - groovychainsaw: down to 0 rerolls
20:48 - groovychainsaw: causing him problems tho
20:51 - groovychainsaw: 1-0 down now
20:51 - groovychainsaw: kinda just ran through me :-)
20:52 - Vexing Vision: Four beers, that's my last offer.
20:54 - groovychainsaw: ko'd a treeman
20:54 - groovychainsaw: good stamping by my snots :-)
20:54 - Vexing Vision: Excellent.
20:55 - groovychainsaw: s'gonna have to be a snot throw to level the scores in the first half
21:02 - groovychainsaw: 2 snot throws, 1 2 turn stun, one badly hurt
21:02 - groovychainsaw: think thats the half over
21:02 - groovychainsaw: not scored any inujries yet, but 4 KOs
21:05 - groovychainsaw: oh crap
21:05 - groovychainsaw: all his players are back for the second half
21:11 - groovychainsaw: not going well now
21:11 - groovychainsaw: lost the ball from kick off
21:12 - groovychainsaw: zara took my ogre down
21:24 - groovychainsaw: zara needs 1 dodge to score
21:24 - groovychainsaw: zara is proving excellent today
21:24 - groovychainsaw: i think you jinxed her into being good
21:25 - Vexing Vision: Awww, I am sorry. :(
21:26 - groovychainsaw: TD for zara
21:26 - groovychainsaw: its all over VV
21:26 - groovychainsaw: sorry!
21:26 - Vexing Vision: Zaraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......
21:26 - groovychainsaw: I've only scored 1 injury
21:26 - groovychainsaw: so nuffle has had his hand in
21:31 - groovychainsaw: gah - totally nuffled now - rolling one's for everything
21:31 - groovychainsaw: its all over VV, sorry
21:31 - Vexing Vision: I am thoroughly disappointed in you and your lack of delicious beer.
21:31 - groovychainsaw: as am i
21:31 - groovychainsaw: especially the beer bit
21:32 - Vexing Vision: How many turns left?
21:32 - groovychainsaw: one
21:32 - Vexing Vision: Let's pray for a Riot.
21:36 - groovychainsaw: done - 2-0 loss
21:36 - groovychainsaw: my ogres were rubbish
There you go - a minute by minute report with catcalls and cheerleaders that did nothing. Disappointing, groovy. Disappointing.
Vexing Vision
01-02-2012, 08:40 PM
Oh well. Congratulations to your Fat Flings (his words, not mine) for our group championeering. At least go ahead and WIN this now, will you? ;)
drawlien
01-02-2012, 08:41 PM
Thanks VV and most especially thanks to Groovy for being a great opponent as always!
Now for the playoffs!
groovychainsaw
01-02-2012, 09:00 PM
I'd like to add - I had great injury dice. All on the armour breaks. I was rolling 10's and 11's to break halfling armour. And then nothing more than 9 for the injury :-D. 6 KO's from 21 armour breaks, including one treeman and zara. All of them got back up for the second half - gutting. I had 2 attempts at snotling throws in the first half with my ag3 ogre, both failed. Most of my GFI's failed in the second half. Even my 'long pass' at the end was with my ag3 ogre, so was only a 4+ to make it. I rolled 3, which I did a lot for any 4+ rolls today :-). And i kept forgetting zara had dauntless which proved super-effective (she's got too many skills, that girl). Zara made the most difference for me, in the stunty league, I'm not used to playing such a competent player. I'm out of practice :-).
Still, my 2 unlevelled ogres levelled up, one got break tackle, the other pro. So they're now a bit of a force, all lvl 2 at least. I'd like to run them for another season, hopefully (although I fear inducements might start to make my life hard). I've got enough for another reroll or another ogre now, too. I might wait to see who their next opposition will be :-).
NieA7
01-02-2012, 09:29 PM
President Weasel, we need to play here as well as the Open! And then we'll need to play in the Divisions for our second group game! It's totally the month of the Weasel for me! Exclamation!
If we're playing the open game Saturday I've got all day Sunday free, then Monday and Wednesday evenings next week.
Reformatted to show both perspectives :
20:31 - groovychainsaw: he has 380 in inducements! :-S
20:31 - groovychainsaw: if he steals my rerolls, ill be at the mercy of nuffle
20:31 - VV -> GC: I NEED YOU TO WIN.
20:31 - VV -> GC: KILL HIM.
20:32 - drawlien: i'm receiving, good weather
20:33 - drawlien: groovy setting up strong left with only snotlings on the LOS
20:33 - groovychainsaw: he's got zara :-S
20:33 - VV -> GC: He used her against me too. No avail.
20:33 - VV -> GC: Who didn't do a thing for me. KILL HER.
20:34 - groovychainsaw: lost 2 rerolls...
20:34 - VV -> drawlien: AGAIN.
20:34 - VV -> drawlien: And you got Zara, I hear. :D
20:36 - groovychainsaw: 2 snots badly hurt
20:36 - VV -> GC: If you win, I will buy you two beers.
20:37 - drawlien: 2 injured snots from the trees
20:37 - VV -> GC: Better the snots than the Ogres this time!
20:38 - drawlien: i've gone right to keep away from the tackle ogre
20:38 - VV -> drawlien: I know that one very well...
20:39 - groovychainsaw: 2 boneheads
20:39 - groovychainsaw: ko'd zara
20:41 - VV -> GC: Three beers?
20:42 - drawlien: i've moved the ball just into groovy's half on the right, with 2 ogres and a swarm of snots nearby
20:42 - drawlien: zara got K.O.'d and i've just had a halfling K.O.'d from a trip
20:43 - drawlien: tackle ogre blitzes but doesn't manage anything
20:44 - drawlien: a snot gets a knockdown and K.O.s a halfling. knocked down my treeman next to the ball carrier as well
20:47 - drawlien: pretty uneventful turn for me. tree didn't stand up. moved forward a bit more.
20:47 - drawlien: tackle ogre K.O.'s another fling
20:48 - groovychainsaw: causing him problems tho
20:48 - groovychainsaw: down to 0 rerolls
20:50 - drawlien: TD!
20:50 - VV -> drawlien: Noooooooo. Which turn?
20:51 - drawlien: only one K.O. got up
20:51 - drawlien: only turn 4 so plenty of time for a reply
20:51 - groovychainsaw: 1-0 down now
20:51 - groovychainsaw: kinda just ran through me :-)
20:52 - drawlien: kick goes deep and i got perfect defence
20:52 - VV -> GC: Four beers, that's my last offer.
20:53 - drawlien: 2 ogres on los 2 in backfield running back towards the ball
20:54 - drawlien: i still have 2 RR's groovy has none btw
20:54 - groovychainsaw: good stamping by my snots :-)
20:54 - groovychainsaw: ko'd a treeman
20:54 - VV -> GC: Excellent.
20:55 - groovychainsaw: s'gonna have to be a snot throw to level the scores in the first half
20:56 - drawlien: a snot fouled a tree giving it a K.O.
20:56 - drawlien: i ran around a bit but didn't cause any damage
20:57 - drawlien: 2 stunned halflings
20:57 - drawlien: groovy's doing a lot of stuff before moving the ball
20:57 - drawlien: looking ominous
20:59 - drawlien: ok :)
20:59 - drawlien: out of re-rolls now and stunned a halfling on a gfi
20:59 - VV -> drawlien: I'll copy paste this log later as your match report by the way. :)
21:00 - drawlien: groovy got antsy and tried a hand-off and throw but the snot was dropped!
21:00 - drawlien: tackle guy gets bonehead trying to blitz
21:02 - drawlien: groovy tried to throw again having picked up but the snot fell badly and got injure
21:02 - drawlien: i didn't manage much to stop further progress, stunning yet another of my own halflings
21:02 - groovychainsaw: 2 snot throws, 1 2 turn stun, one badly hurt
21:02 - groovychainsaw: not scored any inujries yet, but 4 KOs
21:02 - groovychainsaw: think thats the half over
21:04 - drawlien: i pick up the ball and run away, tackle ogre comes to get him and only manages triple push
21:04 - drawlien: no more injuries and the half is over!
21:05 - groovychainsaw: all his players are back for the second half
21:05 - groovychainsaw: oh crap
21:06 - drawlien: all KO's got up thankfully
21:06 - drawlien: feel a bit safer with zara back on
21:06 - VV -> drawlien: Even your tree? Argh.
21:07 - drawlien: ball given to snot at the back
21:07 - drawlien: kicked off field
21:07 - drawlien: only got 1 re-roll with chef and groovy gets it right back
21:07 - drawlien: running down the middle
21:08 - drawlien: actually ball went to an ogre
21:11 - drawlien: ball picked up and run over towards the left of LOS still 2 squares in my half and i got a kind of cage
21:11 - drawlien: he left the ogre exposed to a blitz from zara who knocked it down even though only 1d rolled!
21:11 - groovychainsaw: lost the ball from kick off
21:11 - groovychainsaw: not going well now
21:12 - drawlien: still got blitzed K.O.ing the fling but knocking the ogre down at the same time
21:12 - groovychainsaw: zara took my ogre down
21:15 - drawlien: so i pick it up with zara to make it a bit harder to knock the ball out
21:15 - drawlien: tackle ogre jumps up and stuns a fling but then falls over on the gfi!
21:15 - drawlien: zara is free!
21:18 - drawlien: get a semi cage going around zara but then turnover when a fling is tripped over
21:18 - drawlien: move right and into groovy's half. manage to BH a snot but a lot of pushing apart from that
21:19 - drawlien: groovy manages a few moves before getting BD on a tree to turnover
21:22 - drawlien: move further up the pitch, only one ogre in reach, still semi cage round zara
21:23 - drawlien: groovy tries same tactic but snot only falls over
21:23 - drawlien: try to improve cage by throwing a fling at it but that almost hits zara and KO's the fling!
21:24 - drawlien: he blitzes one corner of the cage hurting the fling and is in contact with zara now
21:24 - groovychainsaw: i think you jinxed her into being good
21:24 - groovychainsaw: zara is proving excellent today
21:24 - groovychainsaw: zara needs 1 dodge to score
21:25 - VV -> GC: Awww, I am sorry. :(
21:26 - drawlien: TD!
21:26 - drawlien: zara dodged away from her markers and ran it in, passing a GFI
21:26 - groovychainsaw: its all over VV
21:26 - groovychainsaw: I've only scored 1 injury
21:26 - groovychainsaw: so nuffle has had his hand in
21:26 - groovychainsaw: sorry!
21:26 - groovychainsaw: TD for zara
21:26 - VV -> GC: Zaraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......
21:27 - drawlien: 2 - 0
21:28 - drawlien: ball kicked high and long
21:28 - drawlien: iit failed
21:28 - drawlien: ogre tried to do a long pass!
21:31 - drawlien: ogre tried to blitz the cage and fell over his own feet
21:31 - drawlien: zara knocked down the nearby ogre and a fling picked up the ball
21:31 - groovychainsaw: as am i
21:31 - groovychainsaw: especially the beer bit
21:31 - groovychainsaw: gah - totally nuffled now - rolling one's for everything
21:31 - groovychainsaw: its all over VV, sorry
21:31 - VV -> GC: I am thoroughly disappointed in you and your lack of delicious beer.
21:32 - groovychainsaw: one
21:32 - VV -> GC: How many turns left?
21:32 - VV -> GC: Let's pray for a Riot.
21:33 - drawlien: get a screen going
21:33 - drawlien: moved ball into groovys half, left flank
21:34 - drawlien: ogre does amazing dodge but then falls over on the gfi to try and blitz the ball'fling
21:36 - drawlien: i was so excited i didn;t notice it was the final turn and tried going for the 3rd TD
21:36 - groovychainsaw: done - 2-0 loss
21:36 - groovychainsaw: my ogres were rubbish
21:37 - drawlien: still it's over now
drawlien
02-02-2012, 12:36 PM
Hmm, some of those got a bit mixed up there:
21:28 - drawlien: iit failed
21:28 - drawlien: ogre tried to do a long pass!
groovychainsaw
02-02-2012, 12:51 PM
Stop bringing that up! - it wasn't a long pass, it was about 5 squares! With an AG3 ogre! In turn 14! 2 scores down! I figured I was due one pass working for a consolation TD by then... ;-)
Hmm, some of those got a bit mixed up there:
21:28 - drawlien: iit failed
21:28 - drawlien: ogre tried to do a long pass!
yeah - there's a few mixed up, one of the problems of doing a quick sort tbh.
President Weasel
02-02-2012, 01:26 PM
President Weasel, we need to play here as well as the Open! And then we'll need to play in the Divisions for our second group game! It's totally the month of the Weasel for me! Exclamation!
If we're playing the open game Saturday I've got all day Sunday free, then Monday and Wednesday evenings next week.
I am not sure I have time in my life for this league in addition to the others. I foolishly thought it would be a couple of games, then I'd lose, then I'd be done. Nevertheless I shall soldier grimly on!
Let's try Sunday afternoon about two ish for this, shall we?
Screwie
02-02-2012, 01:43 PM
I am not sure I have time in my life for this league in addition to the others. I foolishly thought it would be a couple of games, then I'd lose, then I'd be done. Nevertheless I shall soldier grimly on!
Let's try Sunday afternoon about two ish for this, shall we?
As this is your final game, I say you did okay with the commitment! :)
(That one missed game because of technical issues doesn't count)
drawlien
02-02-2012, 03:26 PM
Groovy - It looked long to a Halfling. ;)
moondogjazz
02-02-2012, 04:42 PM
LowKey, Looks like we're next up for a match. How about this Saturday at about 2pm?
LowKey
02-02-2012, 09:14 PM
Should be grand pal see you then
NieA7
02-02-2012, 09:57 PM
2ish on Sunday sounds grand to me, hopefully I'll be able to get a bit of revenge for the pasting you'll doubtless hand me in the Open.
LowKey
03-02-2012, 06:44 AM
Actually I have just been informed by my better half that I have a prior engagement at that time, could to earlier on saturday, maybe 11am? otherwise sunday evening should be fine
moondogjazz
03-02-2012, 11:56 AM
Saturday at 11am sounds fine.
LowKey
04-02-2012, 10:06 AM
We still on for 11?
Kelron
04-02-2012, 11:53 AM
PMed Eski but it says he hasn't been on the forums for 2 weeks. Anyone able to contact him elsewhere?
Screwie
04-02-2012, 11:55 AM
PMed Eski but it says he hasn't been on the forums for 2 weeks. Anyone able to contact him elsewhere?
I will give him a poke. Steam is typically a good place to find him, too.
Screwie
04-02-2012, 04:32 PM
Bully Culprits (me, Goblins) vs Grom's Gittz (Gorm, Other Goblins)
With Group 2 already decided and absolutely nothing on the line, nevertheless this turned out to be a surprising (and extremely funny) game.
Final score: 1 - 0 to the Culprits
Ignore the score - it was a lot more entertaining than that.
This was the height of goblin misadventure, a real treat and a perfect finish to my and Grom's time in the tournament. It's uploaded on BB Manager if you want to view the replay. I may or may not write up a proper report later.
The first half was stupid and fun. And the 2nd half was fun and stupid. Praise be to Mork or Gork.
NieA7
05-02-2012, 02:45 PM
Another fun game against the PWeasel's Tiny Little Presidents, this time ending 2-1 for the Philanthropists. Despite being made of tissue paper the flings were shockingly agile, scoring a perfect one turn touchdown and displaying adeptness with the ball that'd put elfs to shame. With it pouring down with rain, the cursed flings managed to:
Pick up the ball
Pick up the ball in a tackle zone
Pass and catch the ball
Pick up the ball in two tackle zones
Pass and catch the ball again
Meanwhile the gobbos could barely get a hand to the thing, though as it turned out it didn't make a huge amount of difference. We'll never know why but for some reason Walt Disney, star pogoer extraordinaire, took to the field with a severe case of bloodlust. Over the course of the game he picked up no less than 16 SPPs - the MVP, a TD and 4 casualties, taking him to a mighty 34SPP in total.
The secret weapons had a so-so game - Dolly Parton (new loony) did well but got sent off for fouling the treeman, while Alfred Nobel knocked down a treeman but managed to smash the ankle of Jane Addams at the same time (just after she'd scored a TD to take her to level 2).
All in all a good game with lots of stunty-esque action, now onwards to the semi's!
President Weasel
05-02-2012, 06:25 PM
It's true. I wasn't really in a blood bowl mood at the start of the match but I was paying attention and having fun by the end, it was an excellent match. I nearly scraped an undeserved draw, too.
I am pretty sure the halfling casualties were caused, in order, by:
NieA7's blood-crazed pogoer;
Me, with failed throws and dodges;
The entire rest of his team.
The halflings suffered horrendous attrition, almost as though their coach didn't really care and just fancied throwing them at goblins (literally and figuratively) until none were left.
Vexing Vision
06-02-2012, 09:41 AM
Teh Future!
What's in it for our whimpy goblin teams? I have a few survivors, and I'd love to continue playing my MV4 Fanatic, the useless stunty he proved to be in the past matches.
Another league? Another tournament? Or a move to the Challenge league instead?
groovychainsaw
06-02-2012, 09:48 AM
I think we should definitely continue the stunty league, see how all the stunty teams develop (I'm shopping for a 5th ogre!). I don't mind the format too much (cup/divisions/mega-league are fine - preferably not knockout, as stunties are a bit too random over 1 game to make that fun/worthwhile), but its nice to play a game that you don't have to take quite so seriously, where there is a higher incidence of 'what the hell was that!' events (of course, you still get grumpy when every ogre boneheads on one turn....) and ogres are a actually a viable choice (although all of the ogre teams struggled a bit in the stunty league, but wait until next season, we'll show you...).
Also, (Brackets(bracketed)(in bracketS!))!
Screwie
06-02-2012, 10:20 AM
Indeed I will miss my ST 1, AV 6 Distraction Goblin if I have to retire the team. :(
I also believe that, what with the weird way in which Stunty teams grow in TV combined with the massive benefits they typically get with inducements (as NieA7 is showing in the Open right now), allowing veteran teams to return for a hypothetical second season is not out of the question.
Do you guys want to jump back into another tournament right away though?
I suppose we could have an open "off-season" league similar to the Challenge League, and then use the teams we develop there in a second Goblet later in the year?
Vexing Vision
06-02-2012, 10:49 AM
I'd actually prefer jumping right back in. I don't have the time or energy to develop another team in off-league mode.
That's just lazy me though.
LowKey
06-02-2012, 12:11 PM
Aye id jump back in, one day i will get multiple block on a tree man and i will punch you gobbos in your stupid faces
President Weasel
06-02-2012, 12:20 PM
I do not have time in my life for another stunty competition. While it was a fun experience on the whole, and I enjoyed the occasional heroics of Reagan and Obama (who ended up a +1 move, mighty blow halfling, with a cape - and who scored the finest one turn touchdown ever seen, without even needing a go for it), I found it stressful trying to fit the matches in on top of the Open and Divisions ones.
Thanks for the games, boys. It was... interesting :)
Screwie
06-02-2012, 01:00 PM
Aye id jump back in, one day i will get multiple block on a tree man and i will punch you gobbos in your stupid faces
This is something I wish I'd picked up on when my trolls levelled. Instead I took Guard, which hasn't been all that helpful compared to fighting against non-Stunty teams. Meanwhile ST5 with Multiple Block in a competition where most players have ST 2 (or less) seems like it could be really nasty.
NieA7
06-02-2012, 06:11 PM
No team can ever have too much guard, but for a stunty league I think Break Tackle is a better first choice - let's you reposition them for throws, stops irritating distraction goblins marking them up and makes it easier to get through on a blitz. Guard for the second choice, so you can run into a ruck and give assists all round. I don't really rate multiple block, especially for trolls - two dicer-ers are moderately risky anyway so two in one turn is just asking for trouble, not to mention you can't use it on a blitz. Could be OK on a treeman, seeing as they've not got loner. Grab first though.
As for the stunty cup I'd prefer something structured to a challenge league, though mainly because I'm too lazy to organise stuff without a deadline. We could do a single large tournament - everyone plays everyone else once, then the two highest points play off against each other. This has been great, but all bar one of my games has been against 'flings!
Jiiiiim
06-02-2012, 06:18 PM
Bet you're looking forwards to the semis already.
Screwie
06-02-2012, 06:56 PM
No team can ever have too much guard, but for a stunty league I think Break Tackle is a better first choice - let's you reposition them for throws, stops irritating distraction goblins marking them up and makes it easier to get through on a blitz. Guard for the second choice, so you can run into a ruck and give assists all round. I don't really rate multiple block, especially for trolls - two dicer-ers are moderately risky anyway so two in one turn is just asking for trouble, not to mention you can't use it on a blitz. Could be OK on a treeman, seeing as they've not got loner. Grab first though.
Funnily enough, I normally go with Break Tackle first as it is very useful in a Goblin team. I took Guard this time to try something different, but Break Tackle is better.
Grab is also a nice idea, since so many opponents in this league will have Side Step.
Also, Ogres don't have Loner either.
NieA7
06-02-2012, 09:21 PM
Bet you're looking forwards to the semis already.
Actually I am, I got knocked out in the first round of the RPS Cup so this is a vast improvement, even if it's an achievement composed almost entirely of Halfling beating - just be nice to get some gobbo/ogre (and possibly skink) beating in there next time too.
Also, Ogres don't have Loner either.
Ogres? Hitting one thing leads to disaster, does hitting two sound like even a halfway decent idea?
*subliminal message*
Validate the game Screwie, Walt Disney demands Tackle!
Screwie
08-02-2012, 03:33 PM
No good, I remain quite convinced Multiple Block can turn even a troll into a Stunty murdering machine.
Three more evenings in which to play your Day 6 games, chaps. If you need the weekend to make it happen, let me know and I can amend the deadline.
Screwie
11-02-2012, 06:45 PM
Hey Kelron, DarkFenix, Snoozer and Eski:
Group 4 's still outstanding on both games. What's happening chaps? Do you need moderaty assistance?
Kelron
11-02-2012, 07:42 PM
I was going to play Eski on wednesday or thursday but didn't see him on Steam (when I remembered to check).
Sorry been on the lookout for yourself but just found out steam has been offline for lord knows how many days I seem to be having trouble updating it. Can play monday night at the soonist.
Screwie
12-02-2012, 08:14 PM
Okay then, if you can squeeze a game in then I'll hold off on defaulting the games until late on Monday night.
Kelron
13-02-2012, 10:51 PM
Didn't have time to play. I'm having trouble finding time for 3 blood bowl matches a week so if DarkFenix wants to continue I'd be happy to concede the division to him. Otherwise I'll keep going, as it's nearly done now anyway.
Screwie
14-02-2012, 12:39 AM
No worries. I'll sort out the league and finalise the play-off pairings tomorrow.
Thanks for your efforts Kelron, you might as well continue to the end at this point. I've not heard back from DarkFenix yet, in any case. Anyway I do hope you can find the time for (at least) one more match!
Screwie
14-02-2012, 08:33 AM
Alrighty, we have two Goblin vs Halfling semi-finals!
The Philanthropists (NieA7) vs Butterfield Diet Plan (Jiiim)
and
Fat Fred's Flings (drawlien) vs What iz dis (Kelron)
Best of luck all four of you! The provisional deadline for these matches is the 23rd February, but that can be changed.
Jiiiiim
14-02-2012, 11:13 AM
Hello Nie, I hope you continue to enjoy playing halflings! Half-term this week so nearly all times are doable except Friday I think. Add me (http://steamcommunity.com/id/Jiiiiim/) <-- link on steam and poke me when you want a game.
drawlien
14-02-2012, 02:01 PM
Kelron and I have agreed to play our game around 8.30pm on Friday.
NieA7
14-02-2012, 09:14 PM
Added, probably have some time tomorrow afternoon or Thursday evening. That's a lot of diving tackle you have there.
Will there be a third place play off by the way?
Screwie
14-02-2012, 09:30 PM
Er, no third place I believe. Unless the game adds it to the calender automatically.
NieA7
14-02-2012, 10:12 PM
Just wondering. Not anticipating losing or anything like that, no siree bob...
NieA7
15-02-2012, 02:56 PM
The Butterfield Diet Plan (Halfling, Jiiiiim) vs. The Philanthropists (Goblin, me)
Two undefeated sides. Two coaches aiming for the top. Two teams enter, one team leave.
The Philanthropists won the toss and chose to receive, treating themselves to two bribes funded from their treasury and hoping it'd go some way towards making up for the wizard and chef the flings had splashed out on. If there's one thing you can say about the Butterfields, it's that they've got diving tackle. A lot of diving tackle. Like, on everyone. And from their long experience of dealing with diving tackle and halflings the gobbos knew there was only one way to cope with it. Fortunately, that way was the say way you deal with any halflings skilled or otherwise – punch the fat little gits until they break.
It wasn't a subtle plan, but it was a plan. Sadly Nuffle hates plans.
A pretty lacklustre first turn saw The Philanthropists cage up on the left. A spectacular fireball from the flings gave the loony a smashed collar bone before she could even lift her saw. Recognising her critical important to The Plan the apothecary leapt into action and immediately killed her stone dead: RIP Dolly Parton, we'll bury you next to Bono. Another gobbo quickly went off badly hurt after a block, then a failed gobbo dodge left the half formed “cage” wide open. In poured the halflings, down went Walt, out went the ball. Another failed gobbo block left the field wide open for the halflings, who grabbed the ball then got an obliging treeman to throw the carrier across the field. Some desperate defensive scrambling from the goblins managed to get a few tackle zones on the carrier, but even diving tackle couldn't pin him down as the little bastard rolled a natural six to escape.
With the cursed halfling now only yards from the end zone there was only one hope for the gobbos. The diving tackle gobbo marked up the carrier, then Walt Disney – star pogoer and renowned halfling slayer – went for a leap and a blitz. Clearly he had started to believe his own press though, as rather than moving around the fields of diving tackle he tried to go straight through them. Unsurprisingly this was not a success, and it knocked him out in the process. A swift blitz later and the halflings scored with only two turns left on the clock. So far this half had been a complete disaster for the gobbos, underlined still further by the first bribe for the bombardier failing. With the loony dead, another gobbo badly hurt and Walt temporarily unconscious things weren't looking good.
Abandoning their plan the gobbos went for a quick touchdown. Happily Nuffle loves abandoned plans.
Trying to make his mark before he was fully forced off the field Alfred Nobel lobbed a bomb at the two treemen on the line of scrimmage. Sadly his aim was a little off, leading to a treeman and a goblin getting knocked down and conceding a turnover with the ball not even picked up. With no rerolls and only one turn left the chances of an equalizer were low so the halflings played it cautiously, marking goblins but leaving the trolls in space.
There was nothing left for the gobbos but to go for it. Nobel went for a blitz to push away the halfling marking Warren Buffet, William Allen picked up the ball, dodged past one of the few halflings without diving tackle and made the go for it to hand it off to Buffet, who grabbed the ball with ease. Shakira made a perfect throw, hurling Buffet into a small patch of clear space behind the halflings and leaving him with a clear run in to equalise - 1-1. A retaliatory 1 turn touchdown attempt from the Butterfields nearly succeeded but the Treeman Birthday Pie misjudged his throw, leaving Chocolate Quail's Eggs trying to plant a landing in two tackle zones – a feat he couldn't quite pull off, leaving it 1-1 at half time with the halflings receiving.
Things started off well for the Butterfields with one of the scrimmage gobbos getting KO'd, making it 11 v. 9. A troll KO'd a halfling in retaliation, but that was just enough carnage to recharge the wizard – a swift lightning bolt lightly fried Walt Disney just after he'd woken up, leaving him badly hurt and out the game. The halfing joy was cut rather short however, first by one of the treemen taking root, then by a flubbed block that fractured the leg of the unlucky 'fling. Another halfling was swiftly KO'd, leaving the numbers on the pitch level at 8 each.
From here on in Nuffle decided to switch his favour firmly to the gobbos. Despite a neat cage formed on the sidelines the halflings could never quite escape, and with the other treeman taking root soon after they were left to fend for themselves against a trollish onslaught. Injury followed injury, and a final attempt to escape failed when During Dinner Mints couldn't stick the landing (despite escaping diving tackle with another natural six) after running to Bonbonbonbons and being hurled across the pitch. The ball was spilled at the roots of the other treeman, and when some last minute halfling heroics fell flat with a failed dodge and injury there was very little left for them to do. In fact there were very little of them left at all, with only two rooted treemen and three halflings left on the field. Another failed dodge took that down to two, and when William Allen grabbed the ball it was all over bar the shouting – 2-1 to The Philanthropists after a single round of extra time.
The match was ridiculous, with luck swinging backwards and forwards madly yet somehow always ensuring one of us had good luck and the other terrible. I was hugely lucky to score in the first half, and it took a lot of injuries for Jiiiiim's attack to fizzle out in the second. In the end there's probably only one word that can adequately sum it all up:
Stunties.
Screwie
15-02-2012, 03:31 PM
Sounds like a fantastic match. I don't suppose you uploaded it to BB Manager? :)
Congrats to NieA7 and commiserations to my Group 2 adversary Jiiiiim.
The level of crazy luck in your match reminded me of my last game against Gorm.... hmm, I still have to write that match report.
Yay for a goblin team in the final! :D
NieA7
15-02-2012, 03:47 PM
I've uploaded it, apparently I had terrible luck on 1 dice rolls while Jiiiiim had great luck, but I had great luck on 2 dice while Jiiiiim had terrible. We also both rolled more skulls and pows than any other result (one of his treemen rolled 5 skulls against a goblin in one turn).
drawlien
17-02-2012, 08:44 PM
Kelron and I just played our semi-final. I won it 1 - 0 thanks largely to Zara helping take out the scary secret weapons quickly. I'm afraid I played quite a boring and conservative game, holding off a score in the first half and then taking the whole of the second half to score my TD whilst slowly whittling away the opposition. I only lost 2 players all match (1 dead and 1 sent off) whereas I managed to break Kelron's gobbo's armour fairly consistently so that he had only 4 players left in the final turn to try a 1 turner. This failed when a Troll became even stupider.
Thanks for the game Kelron, you were good fun to play even when luck was against you. Now, who do I have in the final? Oh, goblins again... :D
Kelron
17-02-2012, 08:47 PM
850
This is my match report.
NieA7
17-02-2012, 09:00 PM
This tournament consists of 8 games for finalists. By the end of it I will have played halflings 7 times. This is why I took leader on my first double.
Also, clearly Zara has to die.
drawlien
18-02-2012, 08:32 AM
This tournament consists of 8 games for finalists. By the end of it I will have played halflings 7 times.
Surely only 6? I will have played gobbo's the same number of times and never come up against halflings. But that's probably a good thing - 2 teams of around 800TV doesn't sound like a clash of the (stunted) titans really.
Screwie
18-02-2012, 08:39 AM
Oof, that looks like a crunchy game.
The final approaches! (Once I roll on the day.)
EDIT: Okay, we are site for the grand final:
The Philanthropists (Goblins, NieA7) vs Fat Fred's Flings (Halflings, drawlien)
Take all the time you need, chaps.
NieA7
18-02-2012, 09:53 AM
Surely only 6? I will have played gobbo's the same number of times and never come up against halflings. But that's probably a good thing - 2 teams of around 800TV doesn't sound like a clash of the (stunted) titans really.
Should've been but the ogre team in our div dropped out after I played them once, so 5 fling matches in the rounds, 1 in the semi and 1 in the final (no gobbos either). It's been awesome, like some perpetual halfling slaying jamboree. Anyway, once Screwie's rolled on the day when do you want to play? Think I'm free over the weekend, plus Monday evening.
Jiiiiim
18-02-2012, 10:25 AM
Drawlien, I was going to use my vast, vast reserves of cash for petty cash in the final if I'd have made it that far. I can only look at your HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF GOLD and wiggle my eyebrows.
Screwie
18-02-2012, 12:14 PM
...That is a lot of gold! How do Halfling teams manage that??
The day has indeed been rolled on (in case my previous post wasn't clear on the matter).
drawlien
18-02-2012, 12:21 PM
NieA7: I could potentially play today - I've added you to steam.
WRT the gold: When you start the tournament with about 400K in the bank, even if you have to replace a few 'flings, you generally have quite a good cash flow!
drawlien
18-02-2012, 08:04 PM
So, the Final of the Gauntlin Goblet. What a match!
NieA7's The Philanthropists (Gobbo's) vs. drawlien's Fat Fred's 'Flings ('Flings).
I took a look at the 'pist's line-up before the match and made sure I'd be able to induce a chef and Zara by getting rid of a couple of lvl 2 'flings (they were getting old). I also dropped the apothecary I bought for the previous match but didn't actually need to use. The latter was to prove a bit of a mistake, especially as NieA7 added at least 100K in petty cash anyway! He got 2 Bribes and something to try and slow down one of my players which failed. I got Chef, Zara, 2 Agi Potions (1 success) and 1 Str potion (unsuccessful). The scene is set - on to the match itself!
The 'flings decided to kick to make it harder for the gobbo's to keep their secret weapons on the field. The Kick-Off was a touch-back and the ball was handed to the blodging Pogoer. Whilst starting to systematically eradicate the 'fling vermin from the pitch the gobbo's moved up their left, moving slowly so as to keep the ball protected. The 'fling that had taken the Agi potion was one of the first casualties with a Badly Hurt. In around turn 4 Zara tried to blitz the ball carrier but couldn't knock him down and for her troubles was shoved off the pitch.
The gobbo's knew they had plenty of time and didn't bother advancing much, but trying to remove an opposition player from the pitch with every turn. The loony was fouling with his chainsaw left and right, causing much 'fling blood to be spilled. A bribe was used to keep him on the pitch fairly early on and then he was sent off again in the act of giving a Tree-man a MNG! In an error of judgement the Philanthropists decided not to keep the loony on the pitch for the next few turns by using their last bribe. This meant that when they inevitably scored in the 8th turn all they could do was keep the bribe for fouls rather than waste it on the Bombardier.
On the kick off there was a riot, the crowd no doubt disappointed to see all the Secret Weapons sent off. This gave the 'flings a chance to equalise but the Tree-man's throw proved wayward as he speared the hapless ball-carrier into a troll! This ended the half, 1 - 0 to the Philies.
To start the second half the 'flings had 9 players (having been reduced to around 4 on the pitch at one point) vs. 8 for the gobbo's. The ball was kicked short to the 'flings left and they quickly moved to secure the ball, but couldn't advance very far. Zara was left open to attack by a troll who knocked her down and she was then K.O.'d by a foul. The 'flings weren't able to move up very far as they were all trying to huddle around the one remaining Tree-man. The Pogoer of Doom (TM) leapt in and knocked the ball carrier over but was in turn knocked over and fouled into a K.O. The 'flings were able to recover the ball again.
Slowly, very slowly they crept up the pitch, wary of the Side-Step-Diving-Tackle gobbo's and the Break Tackle trolls. Finally the ball was within 2 squares of the end-zone but the ball carrier was in contact with a DT gobbo with no chance to blitz him away. Showing amazing quickness of feet for one so portly the fling dodged away avoiding the despairing dive of the gobbo and scored a TD! The score was tied at 1 - 1.
On the next kick-off the 'flings luck was to improve even more. They were able to jump into action before the gobbo's were ready and the Tree-man threw a fling deep into Philly territory where he caught the ball only 2 squares from the end-zone! A gobbo trying to scramble back tripped over his own feet and the TD was scored unopposed. 2 - 1 to the 'flings!
The gobbo's had 2 turns left to try and equalise and got an extra re-roll to help them out. The ball was kicked deep but right next to a goblin and he picked up the ball and ran up to the Line of Scrimmage. However, here the play was messed up by him flubbing the hand-off. Only a throw team mate would do to equalise now and the 'flings successfully prevented this by putting as many bodies next to the ball as possible. The game ended on a failed pick-up.
Final score: Fat Fred's 'Flings 2 - 1 The Philanthropists
Commiserations to NieA7. Really he had the better play throughout the game. I just had luck - rolling a 6 to escape the Diving Tackle to score the first TD and then making a perfect TTM and the blitzer falling over his own feet to score the second. It was a really nail-biting match and a fitting final to the Gauntlin Goblet!
Jiiiiim
18-02-2012, 10:00 PM
Flings yes.
NieA7
19-02-2012, 05:14 PM
Now Walt had finally stopped screaming the silence lay heavily across the changing rooms. Each goblin was wrapped tightly in their own thoughts, eyes fixed down, lost in contemplation.
“We tried boss, we'ze really tried”
“I know Michael, I'm proud of you all”
“Dat fling juzt skipped by me, I couldn't get 'im!”
“It's not your fault Warren, you did your best. All of you did your best”
“And Tarek? How iz Tarek?”
“Tarek's... Tarek is with Arpad, Bono and the others now. I'm sure they're happy together”
“But what about da orphanz boss! How can weze keep da orphanage open now?!”
“We'll find a way William. We have to”
“And da home for abandoned Squigz?”
“It'll have to wait for another day I'm afraid”
“Iz dere any gold left?”
“None. The referee said he knew a family that were about to be evicted, so I gave the last of the gold to him. We've got nothing left.”
“What'll we do?”
“We'll keep going Christina. We've got no other choice – we have to keep going. For the children.”
“For da children!”
I must admit when the flings got their first touchdown by evading diving tackle with a natural six, then rolled a blitz on the kick off after putting the ball into the very farthest corner and managed to get a fling underneath it (who then caught it), followed by me failing a go for it and leaving an easy TD, I felt a little hard done by. To be honest though I've had tonnes of luck all the way through the tournament, and plenty in the semi against Jiiiiim – this was just my chickens coming home to roost over a couple of turns. Drawlien played well throughout despite slowly running out of players, and in the end I couldn't get an equalizer quickly enough.
It was an exciting game that ebbed and flowed, starting on the very first turn when a gobbo failed a dodge into space and killed himself. The rest of the first half mainly consisted of the chainsaw loony eviscerating about half of the flings (including surviving a blitz from Zara and gouging the eye of a treeman), though Shakira and Walt got a couple of casualties of their own too. The second half was much more even, I could slow the flings down but never quite get the ball away from them.
Zara scared the hell out of me (blodge, strength 4, dauntless and stab? Every player I had was easy meat), I was lucky to get rid of her so quickly in both halves. Still, on balance I'd rather have a few skills on the gobbos, sidetep and diving tackle make life very difficult for others.
So that's that for the Goblin Gauntlet, congratulations Drawlien :) Where do we go from here? I'd love some more stunty games to be honest.
Screwie
20-02-2012, 09:13 AM
Congratulations drawlien! And thanks to everyone for participating in this oddball tournament.
So that's that for the Goblin Gauntlet, congratulations Drawlien :) Where do we go from here? I'd love some more stunty games to be honest.
Me too, actually.
Here are my thoughts after the inaugural cup:
Extended inducements will go. I do this with great sadness as I love some of the extra options and clawing an extra +1 ST or AG out of your Stunties is awesome in theory. The issue is the Wizard recharge.
Through single player testing I've found that with a Wizard and 3-4 Cheering Fans, the situation is pretty horribly exploitable. Because the Wiz's recharge is based in part on injuries caused during the match, and that Fireball might as well be a mushroom cloud for Stunties, you can end up casting a spell up to 4 times a match! It can decimate Stunty teams, so it's got to go.
No Lizardmen - not yet, anyway. More testing required.
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What follows is a quick survey, I would like to hear your thoughts on how to organise the next season:
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1. Should the cup have fewer, larger groups?
1a. Two groups, or one?
Here are the pros and cons as I see them, for fewer groups.
Pros - It maximises your chances of facing all varieties of opponents, each of the games becomes more broadly engaging for all.
Cons - A dropout can potentially cause more disruption for a larger number of teams. Unlikely we'll have two matches against each opponent in this format.
2. The play-off: Longer, shorter, keep it as is/at all?
Personally I like the shallow play-off phase at the end there. It means we have a decisive winner when there are several groups of teams. But also with the inherent nuffliness of Stunty teams, I don't want this part to take up too much time as it is sometimes arbitrary.
Another aspect, which Jiiiiim alluded to, is that the play-off phase gives those teams with some cash spare to splurge out. Which means more entertainment for us all.
3. Should teams from previous seasons be allowed to continue?
I am 100% on board with this. However I will listen if there are a lot of objections to the idea.
4. What TV limits would you like to see for new teams?
If a new team joins the cup, should they be a fresh 600-1000TV team with zero games played?
5. Are returning teams allowed to play outside the cup between seasons?
6. Should there be a TV/other limit on returning teams?
Should players have to keep their TV down? Alternatively, should returning teams be forced to retire all players of level higher than a certain value? (Say, the season number + 1?)
7. Do you intend to participate next season?
8. Is the schedule too demanding?
This season we began with the standard 10-day deadline for each 'Day' of games which has been used in the other RPS leagues. However BB saturation is evidently a thing, and several times I extended the deadline to get all the games in and minimise defaults.
Would you rather see a longer gap than 10 days as the standard?
And/or would you rather I be stricter with issuing defaults?
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Your input is appreciated. If any other ideas or questions arise I'll try and incorporate them into the above.
President Weasel
20-02-2012, 12:07 PM
Hello.
7. No, unless it's a simple knock-out competition I don't have time for another league in my life.
If you're keeping the old format please feel to disregard the below since I won't be joining you.
4. New teams only
5. No.
6. Personally I'd say fresh teams for everyone (which is also a yes to 3) but I suspect some people are invested in their teams. If you're keeping it leaguey, allow team development and allow them to develop as far as they can.
Screwie
20-02-2012, 12:12 PM
Oh, good point. I should add a question about scheduling too.
groovychainsaw
20-02-2012, 12:52 PM
Right, here goes with my 2 cents:
1. Should the cup have fewer, larger groups?
Don't mind - even playing each team twice, it became clear i wouldn't be in with a shot at the halfway mark, so maybe keep it shorter ie smaller divisions then playoffs? It was actually quite fun playing the same people twice, mind, seeing if nuffle would reverse the decisions from the previous match (he didn't)
2. The play-off: Longer, shorter, keep it as is/at all?
As 1, dont really mind - i quite like the 'season finale'
3. Should teams from previous seasons be allowed to continue?
I really like the idea of seeing how different stunty teams develop - I'd be a lot less interested in starting with another new ogre team, to the extent that I would maybe sit it out (I've played starting ogres enough times now to not fancy another season of that!)
4. What TV limits would you like to see for new teams?
Don't mind, i guess, new teams the same as the lowest TV team returning, or 1000TV, whichever was the higher?
5. Are returning teams allowed to play outside the cup between seasons?
Not really, don't have time to play outside as well, plus you are more likely to come back weakened on the whole :-)
6. Should there be a TV/other limit on returning teams?
Again, I kinda would prefer the development of a stunty team - limiting levels or TV will reduce the opportunity to abuse inducements or create a super-snotling :-D
7. Do you intend to participate next season?
Yes, assuming i can bring my team back
8. Is the schedule too demanding?
I'd rather keep this as the fun league and not be too strict with defaults, 10 days is the shortest i can manage for sure, couldn't go any shorter really. I'd be happy with either a longer limit or a loose schedule on this one. I'm also happy to go with the majority.
NieA7
20-02-2012, 09:25 PM
Shame about no Lizardmen, I wouldn't want to play them myself but I'd be interested to play against them. Let me know if you need any help with the testing.
1. Should the cup have fewer, larger groups?
Not too fussed - it was nice playing the same teams twice to see how they develop but some more variety would've been good too.
2. The play-off: Longer, shorter, keep it as is/at all?
Depends on the shape of the groups but it was fine as it was.
3. Should teams from previous seasons be allowed to continue?
Yes, although I'm mostly saying that as I wuv my ickle gobbos.
4. What TV limits would you like to see for new teams?
1000TV or less. Essentially the final was between a team that had grown and a team that crushed down on TV, and the crushing team won - I don't think there's any great advantage to an experienced team.
5. Are returning teams allowed to play outside the cup between seasons?
I'd rather not but it's not a deal breaker.
6. Should there be a TV/other limit on returning teams?
No if there's no games outside the cup, possibly if there are. No idea what it should be though.
7. Do you intend to participate next season?
Definitely if I can keep The Philanthropists, possibly if not.
8. Is the schedule too demanding?
Not for me, although that could change in the future. I wouldn't mind a more relaxed schedule but it'd be easy to lose momentum if it was too gappy. Might be easier to manage if there are lots of little leagues that can be rolled on independently like the Divisions, rather than one big open-esque league (though of course that depends on how it's all structured I guess).
On balance I think I'd prefer fewer, larger groups just to see more new teams (and crush them), but if that meant it because difficult to roll the groups on with all the games being played I'd rather stick with smaller groups to minimise the disruption. Always assuming there are enough teams of course - if there's only 8ish or fewer then I'd prefer everyone plays each other once than everyone plays half the people twice.
drawlien
21-02-2012, 08:00 AM
I'd be interested in coming back for another season. It was nice playing everyone in the group twice, but for variety's sake I'd go for larger groups whilst perhaps trying to keep the season length around the same. That would mean groups of 6 or 8 I suppose. Happy with the schedule.
1. Should the cup have fewer, larger groups?
Four groups each feeding a team through to the knockout stages worked well IMHO, however many teams sign up should be split up into 4 groups.
2. The play-off: Longer, shorter, keep it as is/at all?
unless we get *loads* more teams (i.e. enough for 8 groups), keep it as it is
3. Should teams from previous seasons be allowed to continue?
Personally I'd prefer a total reset, it's fairer that way - currently the finalists have had more chance to actually develop a decent player or two...
4. What TV limits would you like to see for new teams?
1000TV
5. Are returning teams allowed to play outside the cup between seasons?
NO!
6. Should there be a TV/other limit on returning teams?
1000TV
7. Do you intend to participate next season?
Yes
8. Is the schedule too demanding?
Not as long as you are prepared to be somewhat flexible again.
Screwie
24-02-2012, 12:29 AM
Thanks for the input guys. Starting next week I'll start preparing the spreadsheet for a second season.
Vexing Vision
27-02-2012, 04:42 PM
1. Should the cup have fewer, larger groups?
Four groups each feeding a team through to the knockout stages worked well IMHO, however many teams sign up should be split up into 4 groups.
2. The play-off: Longer, shorter, keep it as is/at all?
unless we get *loads* more teams (i.e. enough for 8 groups), keep it as it is
3. Should teams from previous seasons be allowed to continue?
Personally I'd prefer a total reset, it's fairer that way - currently the finalists have had more chance to actually develop a decent player or two...
4. What TV limits would you like to see for new teams?
1000TV
5. Are returning teams allowed to play outside the cup between seasons?
NO!
6. Should there be a TV/other limit on returning teams?
1000TV
7. Do you intend to participate next season?
Yes
8. Is the schedule too demanding?
Not as long as you are prepared to be somewhat flexible again.
Obviously, ntw has stolen my input so I do not have to give it anymore.
i r in ure head, stealing ure thoughts.
NieA7
04-03-2012, 10:12 AM
Just a thought, but if we have the multi-group structure again you could segregate the leveled teams from the new ones - that way everybody will have got some games in before the semis.
Screwie
04-03-2012, 08:28 PM
That's a pretty good idea. The size and nature of the group split will depend mostly on how many people sign up for the second season and which team they choose to bring, so I can't confirm the structure just yet.
Also, apologies for not yet getting the the new sing-up sheet out like I said I would. A hectic week at work combined with some PC troubles has occupied much of my time. I will try and get it sorted early this week.
Screwie
13-03-2012, 12:36 PM
The Season 2 sign-up sheet is available in the OP! :D
Again, apologies for the extraordinary delay in sorting this out.
Vexing Vision
13-03-2012, 01:19 PM
Regarding Secret Weapons and placement bug: Most placement bugs disappear if you choose a new formation from the standard formations.
You'll have to replace your team, but there's a high chance that all your critters will be available to be shoved around in as much a manly fashion as Stunties can take.
Anyway, signed up! I want to keep playing with my MV 4 Ballsieboy.
Screwie
13-03-2012, 01:53 PM
Regarding Secret Weapons and placement bug: Most placement bugs disappear if you choose a new formation from the standard formations.
You'll have to replace your team, but there's a high chance that all your critters will be available to be shoved around in as much a manly fashion as Stunties can take.
Thanks, I'll add that to the spreadsheet!
LowKey
13-03-2012, 02:50 PM
Ill put my application in over the weekend stunty friends
NieA7
13-03-2012, 11:17 PM
Signed up with The Philanthropists (Walt Disney demands more blood!), though the final needs to be validated before I can apply in game.
El Cubo
14-03-2012, 09:31 AM
I'll sign up. I inserted my entry to the spreadsheet, but haven't yet decided on the team. Halflings, probably.
Screwie
14-03-2012, 10:33 AM
Signed up with The Philanthropists (Walt Disney demands more blood!), though the final needs to be validated before I can apply in game.
Thanks for the reminder, in-game applications are not required yet but I'll sort out the in-game league beforehand.
I'll sign up. I inserted my entry to the spreadsheet, but haven't yet decided on the team. Halflings, probably.
Welcome aboard!
Wait i'm slow, can we use our old teams? If so i'll add myself to the sheet. If not then i might do an ogre team anyway.
drawlien
15-03-2012, 11:49 AM
I'll probably be signing up with a new team. I'll try and get the details in over the weekend at the latest!
Screwie
25-03-2012, 04:07 PM
Thanks to those who have shown interest in a second season of the Gauntlet.
Currently we're sitting at 7 players. On Tuesday night, I will be sorting out the league in-game with a view to starting the season by the weekend. If you're interested in joining us but haven't yet applied, you have until Tuesday night to sign up on the spreadsheet!
Can i sign up my old team?
Screwie
25-03-2012, 04:36 PM
You certainly can!
Screwie
28-03-2012, 10:26 PM
So *ahem* you can now start applying in-game for the league!
It looks like we have 8 players this season, and given that most of them are Goblin teams I decided to keep a single group (otherwise some poor Halfling team is going to be facing nothing but gobbos). Everyone will play each other once, and the top 4 teams after it all will face off in the play-offs.
Of course, if you'd rather we split into two groups and face each other twice, it's not too late to change that. Also if you are a latecomer and want to join in, it's not too late for that either!
EDIT: It just occurred to me to consider the newbie teams, which slipped my mind while writing this last night. We don't have enough new teams to fill a group on their own but if they would still prefer a smaller group facing the weaker end of the previous season's teams then I can still set that up too.
groovychainsaw
29-03-2012, 08:39 AM
Mwahahaah! Mine are the only ogres. My snotling creche careladies will show you all why they have such a fearsome child-minding reputation!
/Realises his TV is horribly inflated. Prepares for horrible star players and many,many bribes to be induced against him.
El Cubo
29-03-2012, 07:13 PM
EDIT: It just occurred to me to consider the newbie teams, which slipped my mind while writing this last night. We don't have enough new teams to fill a group on their own but if they would still prefer a smaller group facing the weaker end of the previous season's teams then I can still set that up too.
The single group is fine with me.
Why are there so many goblins? Now I'm thinking that I should switch to the greenskins as well.
moondogjazz
30-03-2012, 08:04 PM
What are the login details again?
El Cubo
30-03-2012, 09:32 PM
What are the login details again?
They're written on page 2:
I've created the league in-game! Please apply to the RPS Gauntlin Goblet (password: chainsawed) at your earliest convenience. I'll update the first post to include this information too.
Vexing Vision
30-03-2012, 10:04 PM
I can't make an application before Easter, sadly, as I have significantly less internet than I expected to have.
If that delays things too much, just kick me out and I'll join the next round - although I'm looking forward to continue playing my mighty Move 4 Steelball-swinger!
Screwie
05-04-2012, 09:15 PM
Okay guys, just waiting on VV and ntw to apply to the league.
Like VV I am away for Easter for a few days, but I will be looking to start the league running by the end of next week!
Vexing Vision
07-04-2012, 12:32 PM
The Shortstuff Stumblers have applied with the remains of their original team.
The Friendly Little Fellas have reapplied to the league for another round of crushing disappointment and under-achievement.
Screwie
12-04-2012, 07:45 PM
Thanks VV and ntw!
The (slightly delayed) Season 2 has now begun! Find your scheduled opponent on the spreadsheet and arrange your matches!
The provisional deadline for Day 1 is 22nd April.
Now excuse me while I go lie down for a bit.
Vexing Vision
12-04-2012, 08:59 PM
Well then! If Gorm's Gormless Goblins are around this weekend, why, I would love to have a practice match!
I dont have a goblin team in the challenge league anymore, not sure what i did with them. I've got an ogre team though.
Vexing Vision
13-04-2012, 10:19 AM
Oh, my definition of practice, not yours. We're on Day 1 here. :D
Screwie
13-04-2012, 11:08 AM
ntw, are you perhaps free Saturday morning/afternoon for a game? I have my Open match at 1pm so any time before 11am or after 3pm would work for me.
Alternatively, Sunday etc.
Oh okay VV, Sunday is best for me, i can do any time.
ntw, are you perhaps free Saturday morning/afternoon for a game? I have my Open match at 1pm so any time before 11am or after 3pm would work for me.
Alternatively, Sunday etc.
Evenings are generally best for me...
Screwie
13-04-2012, 01:49 PM
No probs. Can sort it out in the week then.
Heliocentric
13-04-2012, 02:44 PM
Damn I was meaning to sign up for this, gates are closed right?
If it's plausible I'm intending to play as Halflings, no treemen mind.
Vexing Vision
13-04-2012, 02:53 PM
Oh okay VV, Sunday is best for me, i can do any time.
Excellent. I shall find you on a social media gaming network forum of your choice once I am awake on Sunday. Steam, probably. Do I have you on Steam? I think I have you on Steam.
Screwie
13-04-2012, 02:57 PM
Damn I was meaning to sign up for this, gates are closed right?
If it's plausible I'm intending to play as Halflings, no treemen mind.
Sorry Helio, it's a little late to join up. However if you'd like to put your details down on the "Sign-Up Sheet" tab, you'll be first pick as substitute if someone has to drop out of the competition.
No treemen? But then who will throw all the halflings to their hilarious deaths?
Excellent. I shall find you on a social media gaming network forum of your choice once I am awake on Sunday. Steam, probably. Do I have you on Steam? I think I have you on Steam.
Sorry VV, unexpected Sunday flight plans. I can do Saturday after 4.
Heliocentric
13-04-2012, 08:05 PM
No treemen? But then who will throw all the halflings to their hilarious deaths?
They can manage that all by themselves.
Heliocentric
13-04-2012, 08:22 PM
The Barefoot Mounties (yes, its like 4 different puns) are a Paramillitary force of Halflings who use a variety of breeds of Dog and Badger as steeds, many boar have passed into the Barefoot Mounties service but if they are ever injured the group veterinarian is quick to euthanise them and arrange a deployment of bacon. The Battalion also includes a pony who is used only in the event of deploying heavy equipment.
Their main responsibility is maintainance of highways and trade caravans in the admittedly small but still multi acre halfling stretch of the 'silk road' of farm lands to food processing centres.
Notable is an utter lack of relationship with Treemen who see then as "Far to much like the tall folk for such small people" an extract of a Thesis published* by Professor Maple Birch-Aspen the Treeman sociologist.
*Written only on high quality leather pages.
Vexing Vision
14-04-2012, 02:45 AM
Sorry VV, unexpected Sunday flight plans. I can do Saturday after 4.
Aww, I was hoping to Grimrock my Saturday afternoon. Just poke me when you see me online in any way.
El Cubo
14-04-2012, 08:40 AM
I couldn't find Moondogjazz on Steam, so I'll just post here that I'm up for a game this weekend.
NieA7
14-04-2012, 01:03 PM
Hi Groovy, looks like we've got some stunties to collectively crush :) I'm free all day tomorrow, plus Monday, Thursday and Friday evenings from about 20:00BST.
moondogjazz
14-04-2012, 06:44 PM
Aww, I was hoping to Grimrock my Saturday afternoon. Just poke me when you see me online in any way.
How about 10am GMT on Sunday?
Screwie
14-04-2012, 09:20 PM
Psst, Moony... El Cubo's your first opponent ;)
El Cubo
15-04-2012, 06:20 AM
How about 10am GMT on Sunday?
How about afternoon instead? I could start at 3pm GMT or later.
moondogjazz
15-04-2012, 07:18 AM
3pm sounds fine. FYI my Steam ID is Moondog rather than moondogjazz.
moondogjazz
15-04-2012, 07:19 AM
Psst, Moony... El Cubo's your first opponent ;)
I was so used to a forum layout where the reply button is at the top of a post that I clicked on the reply for the post above :).
Screwie
15-04-2012, 09:23 AM
Ah gotcha :)
Vexing Vision
15-04-2012, 02:27 PM
You confused me!
So, the starting match of the Goblet saw Gorm's Sidestepping Goblins vs my greenskinned random-skilled tiny ones. While Gorm had a spare Goblin more than me, our teams were perfectly matched at 1310 TV.
Relying on my super-skilled Goblins such as Nutshell, the human-strength goblin, or Littleballs, the fastest fanatic ever on the pitch, I decided to receive first to thin out the opposition.
This resulted in 7 turns of one big brawl in the middle of the pitch, with both teams unable to cause anything but the occasional (rare) KO, and lots and lots and lots of ineffectual pushing. And trolls on both sides that decided to rather sleep through the match several turns in a row, instead of maybe standing up or pushing something themselves.
Desperate to bring this to a closure, I attempted a half-hearted pushing orgy to get one of my trolls free, passed the ball to a nearby goblin, grabbed said goblin, threw him and had him run to the finish line in turn 8.
Surprisingly, this did not even cost any rerolls.
The second half saw some fun bombardier vs bombardier action and the first and only death of the match - my slightly crippled -MV frontline goblin bit the dust after trying to bite a bomb with an unsuccessful attempt to pass it back. Incidentally, a few turns later, my own bombardier gets blown up by a failed relaunch and is the second casualty.
Finally, though, my trolls begin to earn their keep and stop stupidly lazying around so much, but after my own bombardier took out my rear-guard, even a thrown goblin wasn't enough to stop the counter-scoring, leaving me with 4 turns to make the win.
So, we set up for another grab-and-throw. This time going for Nutshell, figuring that he of all goblins has the best chance to survive any attempts to block him. And again, it works beautifully - a flying goblin is a beauty to behold, and I score 2-1 in turn 15, after knocking out a few more opposing goblins.
A riot gives me another turn to punch back. Due to a deep kick, Gorm cannot get the ball to one of his goblins in position for a throw, but the ball is lying tantalizingly close to the opposing TD line. My trolls were set up a bit behind, and the final thrown goblin fails to scatter close enough to make a third touchdown. The game ends 2-1 for the Shortstuff Stumblers, who got extra-ordinarily lucky with the throws but shared Gorm's bad luck in trying to knock anything over.
El Cubo
16-04-2012, 07:19 PM
Yesterday, It Came for Dessert turned out to be the victor in their match against Green Goopants. The goblins had trouble utilizing their arsenal of secret weapons and big dumb trolls: Lack of troll-handlers confused the trolls overmuch. One lucky halfling evaded the advances of a fanatic goblin at least thrice until a treeman intervened and finally knocked the ball-swinging maniac down. The looney managed to fracture an arm off a halfling, but subsequently got knocked out by enraged little folk. For inciting a mass-fouling of Deeproot Strongbranch, the bombardier got sent off by the ref. These memorable events inspired the halflings to score a touchdown by turn 7.
The second half saw the attack of the halflings. It caused a division in the ranks of the goblins. On one side a treeman managed to attract several goblins and a troll who tried to bring the tree down. While they did succeed in their attempt, he was quickly back on his feet again and nothing else exciting happened on that front. The other side had several halflings advancing towards the end zone. The goblins tried screening them off, but were eventually overcome by a treeman and the halflings. A touchdown by the halflings by turn 6. Green Goopants were not fazed by this. After the halflings' kick went out of bounds, a front-line goblin got hold of the ball. Displaying a rare moment of exceptional clarity, a troll who completely disregarded the harassing halfling, grabbed the ball (with the goblin still attached to it) and threw it as far as he could towards the halflings' end zone. The goblin landed on his feet and sprinted over the goal line. An amazing feat! The halflings tried to replicate the performance but that only resulted in a strained groin.
For his amazing performance of injuring one goblin, Deeproot Strongbranch was awarded as the most valuable player.
Conclusion: 2-1 for It Came for Dessert.
NieA7
17-04-2012, 11:10 AM
The Philanthropists started their new title drive in reasonable form, grinding out a 1-0 win against Groovy's Sunny Day Snotling Crèche. It was a very bashy match, with the first half as a slow grind up the pitch for the gobbos and the second half a big melee around the sidelines. Nothing much worked very well (blink and you'd miss the chainsaw loony's contribution, the bombardier blew himself up more than anyone else and I don't think any attempt to use throw team-mate worked), right down to the final turn when Groovy's last ditch attempt to score was scuppered by a failed bone-head roll eating his pass attempt for the turn.
Casualties aplenty, including a MNG for both a diving tackle gobbo and the mighty Walt Disney (another 5SPP this game for him), who also got a -1AV thrown into the bargain. Next match is going to be tough.
Screwie
19-04-2012, 08:05 PM
ntw and I just played our match, concluding Day 1 - a few days early!
So everything is rolled on to Day 2 now - provisional deadline of the 29th April!
(Match report to follow.... probably)
terrible match - this game is so frustrating. maybe I'm a control freak?
El Cubo
19-04-2012, 08:18 PM
I'm quite positive that I wrote an AAR here. But then it said that the post needed to be approved first. Did it not pass the moderation?
NieA7
19-04-2012, 08:48 PM
I've had a match report take a while to turn up (possibly due to the various creative names I came up with for the wood elfs), think it took about 12 hours or so to get vetted.
Screwie, we need to make some hot gobbo and gobbo action happen! Should be free most evenings next week after about 8:00pm, except Monday and Wednesday. I've also got this Sunday afternoon and evening free I think.
El Cubo
19-04-2012, 08:50 PM
Mine has been in limbo for a few days now.
Vexing Vision
19-04-2012, 08:53 PM
Aha! Now we're up, Moondog. Now we're up.
I can do tomorrow night or Sunday at any time I wake up sober enough to play Goblins. Which means any time, really.
El Cubo
21-04-2012, 08:09 AM
ntw, are you up for a game today? I can start whenever before 4pm GMT.
Screwie
21-04-2012, 08:39 AM
Screwie, we need to make some hot gobbo and gobbo action happen! Should be free most evenings next week after about 8:00pm, except Monday and Wednesday. I've also got this Sunday afternoon and evening free I think.
Cool, I might be able to fit you in tomorrow evening if you're still free?
As for the match reports, that is a pain :( How do we get in touch with moderators to take a look at it?
El Cubo
21-04-2012, 09:43 AM
Well, in case the other post won't turn up, here's another report of the match between It Came for Dessert and Green Goopants.
The goblins attacked, but the trolls got confused instead. When a failed hand-off caused them to lose the ball near the LoS I got my halflings next to it. The secret weapons amounted to a fractured arm of a halfling. One particularly lucky halfling evaded the advances of a fanatic three or four times. By turn 3 or so, all of them were sent off or injured. Halflings scored in turn 7.
The second half saw the attack of the halflings. One treeman got half of the goblin team tied up trying to bring him down. Other halflings advanced through the sidelines and score the touchdown in turn 6. The highlight of the match was the Green Goopants' 1TTD. An out-of-bounds kick brought the ball to a goblin on the LoS. This goblin showed a really professional attitude towards the game as he kept on clinging to the ball as a troll picked it up. The troll who himself had a rare moment of perfect clarity, was not swayed by the linehalfling in the slightest as he threw the ball far into the opposition's half. The goblin, who had held on to the ball all this time, landed on his feet and sprinted over the goal line. The halflings' attempt in replicating this feat resulted in a miserable halfling with strained groin. For his outstanding performance in causing an injury, Deeproot Strongbranch was awarded the MVP.
End result: 2 - 1 for It Came for Dessert
NieA7
21-04-2012, 11:18 AM
Cool, I might be able to fit you in tomorrow evening if you're still free?
Late afternoon early evening would be best for me if all other things are equal (though I can make later if that's no good for you), kick off between 16:00 and 18:00?
Screwie
21-04-2012, 12:39 PM
Ok I'll be around on Steam during that time, hopefully catch you then.
Vexing Vision
23-04-2012, 09:14 AM
Okay, Moondogjazz, let's talk. I'll be horrifically busy this week with parties and events (yes, it's hard work, shush you all), so let's look at next weekend instead as we missed the last?
moondogjazz
23-04-2012, 07:19 PM
How does Sunday sound. I can make 10am or 2pm kick-offs, how about you?
Vexing Vision
23-04-2012, 08:17 PM
How does Sunday sound. I can make 10am or 2pm kick-offs, how about you?
A sunday 2pm kick-off sounds like I would be awake for that - excellent!
NieA7
25-04-2012, 09:50 PM
Hi Screwie, just remembered that I'll be out tomorrow night so I won't be around for a rematch unfortunately. I'll be free on Friday evening and all day Saturday and Sunday if you want to fit it in on a break from Guild Wars 2.
Screwie
26-04-2012, 08:22 AM
No probs. I think that'll probably be at the weekend and not Friday night, unless for some reason my PC decides it can't play GW2 ;)
Vexing Vision
29-04-2012, 10:25 AM
Hi Moon, I skillfully forgot to ask you which 2 pm you meant - mine or yours?
Heliocentric
29-04-2012, 11:11 AM
I would like to petition the league associates to allow Skink teams, oh no not Lizardmen, just Skinks.
See, you are allowed full teams of Skinks, to me that's do-able.
What say yee?
Heliocentric
29-04-2012, 11:33 AM
Skinks are fast though
Sorry, is this the stunty cup or the mv6 cup?
:p
Well yea its a stunty cup and includes all the stunty teams that are available in LE, Lizards arent a stunty team so you've got the make the argument for them to be in. I suppose if they had no Krox then they'd be at a strength disadvantage so the speed might be okay.
Heliocentric
29-04-2012, 11:38 AM
Well yea its a stunty cup and includes all the stunty teams that are available in LE, Lizards arent a stunty team so you've got the make the argument for them to be in. I suppose if they had no Krox then they'd be at a strength disadvantage so the speed might be okay.
Ogres are not a stunty team are they? But ogres minus ogre is the only way to field snots? Can I take an ogre team?
I guess I just want more options :p
El Cubo
29-04-2012, 12:44 PM
As far as stunty players go, skinks are quite expensive. And they would have only one big guy. Maybe their high speed makes up for not being able to throw them :)
NieA7
29-04-2012, 12:55 PM
I think Screwie was looking into how fair a skink + krox team would be at the end of last season, but decided against letting them in for this. I'd be interested in seeing how they performed though - they're quite expensive compared to other stunties and the re-rolls cost a fortune, I'm not sure they'll be as good as they appear on paper.
Vexing Vision
29-04-2012, 02:01 PM
So Moondog just met my rather expensive Goblin-team - and couldn't cope with the brutality of Littleballs the Move 4 fanatic.
After a flurry of (attempted) 1-turn-touchdowns at the end of the first half, it is 2-1 for the Shortstuff Stumblers. In the second half, everything that can go wrong for the Green Goopants goes wrong - their rare successful blocks don't even cause KO's, their dodges fail, doubleskulls are a per-turn event and their own armor is of Goblin craftsmanship.
There have been no eaten or deceased goblins, which is a wonder as a rather painful game ends 4-1 to the Stumblers.
Screwie
01-05-2012, 10:34 AM
What with Guild Wars 2 and some dramatic PC issues at the weekend I've been a tad pre-occupied!
Consider this an extension of the current "Day" deadline until Thursday night. :)
El Cubo
01-05-2012, 11:01 AM
Consider this an extension of the current "Day" deadline until Thursday night. :)
That's perfect, since ntw and I were planning to play our match on Thursday.
Screwie
02-05-2012, 08:44 AM
Last weekend's game against NieA7:
In which my team is sent to the bench early and often, my best troll dies but regens out of it (thank god) and my AG 4 goblin Happy is killed. I was getting trounced 2-0 when the match DCed in the final turns and the results were never recorded.
Although I did offer to default the match and give him the 2-0 victory, NieA7 elected to have a proper rematch, which we played last night:
In which NieA7's team is sent tot he bench early and often and his best troll dies but regens out of it (thank god). I win 4-1, but Happy gets retired from a collar bone injury anyway, along with one of his squadmates (I did briefly consider running with three ST 1 goblins in the team for a laugh, but one is enough).
Seriously though, these matches were like night and day!
In my very first turn my fanatic had the best turn he's ever had, knocking down 3 enemies including his looney, injuring the looney (the first casualty SPP any of my fanatics have ever scored, ever), and making 2 GFIs without need of a reroll. Then my looney blitzed and injured another.
There was very little bomb-throwing as we were both seriously marking each others' bombardiers, but then late in the first half my bomber caught an opportunity to hit both NieA7's trolls in one blast - that's where his big guy bit the dust (temporarily).
A wild and whacky game, thanks NieA7. I fully expect to get my Nuffly comeuppance in our Open match later this week.... which is also goblin vs goblin, funnily enough.
El Cubo
03-05-2012, 10:05 PM
A messy match was played by The Friendly Little Fellas and It Came for Dessert. Both teams injured about 3 opposing players and the turf claimed about as many casualties.
The halflings started on offense. The fanatic on the line of scrimmage was the prime target of Deeproot Stronbranch who sent him off with a headache. Deeproot himself was stunned by the Looney's aptitude in the art of chainsaws. This feat achieved him the mvp prize. Tussling on the LoS proved to be tiring for the treemen, so they all decided to take a nice, long nap. For two turns, none of them would get up! The halflings ran up and down the field trying to keep away from the goblins. Meanwhile, the bombardier goblin kept on lobbing his bombs at them until he didn't and then blew himself up. That ended ntw's turn prematurely and left his players too far to try to stop the halflings advance by the sideline. The AG4 goblin managed to dash after them, but was crowd-surfed instead. First TD on turn 5. By this time the goblins had lost 6 players, so they could field only five. Thus, the game was pretty much played by then. The pogoer got a chance to score by going after the badly protected ball. His attempt was foiled by the slippery grass at the end-zone, however.
The second half was more boring by being so one-sided. The goblins couldn't keep the ball with such few players and the halflings scored twice. By the end of the match there were only three of Fellas left on the pitch.
3-0 for It Came for Dessert
Screwie
06-05-2012, 10:01 AM
Okie doke, I've rolled on the league to Day 3! Provisional deadline is the 16th May.
Vexing Vision
06-05-2012, 06:17 PM
Ho. Ho. Ho.
Anything but Friday goes, dearest ntw. Do not be afraid. Come for a hug!
groovychainsaw
07-05-2012, 09:27 AM
Screwie my good man - I believe you have a date with destiny - when's good for you this week? How's tomorrow night sound to you?
Screwie
08-05-2012, 10:10 AM
Hey GC, unfortunately my Open game is tonight. How about Thursday or Friday evening?
groovychainsaw
08-05-2012, 11:16 AM
Probably better, as it turns out. I'll let you know a little closer to the time - obviously ping me if you see me on team at any point ;-)
Ho. Ho. Ho.
Anything but Friday goes, dearest ntw. Do not be afraid. Come for a hug!
Busy-ish week, hopefully post later with a date and time. And I'm not afraid - I'm terrified, I honestly don't think they've ever done anything worthwhile.
NieA7
09-05-2012, 06:49 PM
El Cubo, we must fight! I can make tomorrow or Friday evening from 20:00, pretty much any time Sunday, and Tuesday evening next week (pending all the other games I need to arrange).
El Cubo
09-05-2012, 08:36 PM
El Cubo, we must fight! I can make tomorrow or Friday evening from 20:00, pretty much any time Sunday, and Tuesday evening next week (pending all the other games I need to arrange).
Sunday then? I can start 10am GMT or later.
NieA7
09-05-2012, 10:03 PM
Sunday then? I can start 10am GMT or later.
Is that GMT or BST? Anyway, how about around 13:00 BST?
El Cubo
10-05-2012, 04:59 AM
Is that GMT or BST? Anyway, how about around 13:00 BST?
BST, apparently :) 13:00 is also good.
Moondog, we need to get our play on.
Screwie
10-05-2012, 06:30 PM
Hey GC, are you around and free for a game tonight?
NieA7
10-05-2012, 07:47 PM
BST, apparently :) 13:00 is also good.
Great, see you then.
moondogjazz
11-05-2012, 06:19 AM
Moondog, we need to get our play on.
Sure thing, how about Sunday, 2pm?
moondogjazz
14-05-2012, 05:46 AM
Sure thing, how about Sunday, 2pm?
How about today, 7pm?
Maybe a bit earlier? 5ish?
Screwie
14-05-2012, 09:28 AM
Bully Culprits (Goblins, me) vs Sunny Day Snotling Creche (Ogres, GC)
Groovychainsaw's Ogres and my goblins squared off yesterday for a challenging game. A bout of appallingly nuffly luck with my bombardier (seriously, two turns in a row, the bomb was caught and throw to hit my pogo square on - with missed throws!) killed my early momentum and allowed GC's AG3 ogre to run through the lines with the ball. My trolls fared a lot better on the throwing front, sending three goblins deep into my own half to muster a meagre defence against the ogre battering ram in front of them. It didn't work.
Half time: Creche 1-0 Culprits
Not a lot did work, actually. I was losing the casualty race by a long way - even one of my level 3 goblins kicked the bucket early in the first half - and set up for the second half with only 7 Culprits the pitch. Badly outnumbered and with continued bad luck with the dice, I could do little to stop GC's second touchdown from his almighty AG 3 Ogre.
One final TTM attempt and chance at a consolation goal was foiled by a long kick. My trolls finally warmed up their punching arms late in the match though, managing to bag a couple of casualties (and enough to get my second troll to level 3), so it wasn't a total disaster.
Full time: Creche 2-0 Culprits
Cheers for the game GC. I might have been undermined by some dice rolls, but regardless you played your team extremely well. You've tempted me to make an Ogre squad some time!
My troll also rolled a double on his skill-up! :D He took Pro so watch out, my troll's suddenly grown half a brain!
moondogjazz
14-05-2012, 12:45 PM
Maybe a bit earlier? 5ish?
Split the difference? 6pm?
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