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Chauvigny
18-11-2011, 08:51 PM
Since so many of us are playing this nice little game, how about telling what way you play?

This is Hugo, a LVL 28 Kajiit which does know little about fighting and magery, but a lot about smithing and alchemy.

He wears an ensemble of light armor, consisting of Forsworn, Elven and Thief armor, some are enchanted but most are just upgraded on the workbench.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2153/2011111800013.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/i/2011111800013.jpg/)

db1331
18-11-2011, 09:02 PM
Varren, level 28 Dark Elf thief/assassin in his recently procured Nightingale Armor, sporting a certain legendary dagger that fans of the series will recognize:

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197976220622/screenshot/632982837668470230?tab=public

Nalano
18-11-2011, 09:03 PM
Nalano (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e342/jonmphy/Lanos/ScreenShot5.jpg), lvl25 Redguard self-hating blacksmith. Enjoys stark equipment advantage over all and sundry. Wears plated steel because of the conviction that decent armor plus extraneous spikes does not make great armor. Occasionally drags around long-suffering Lydia as ersatz pack mule/fashion model.

Mostly stabs things. Occasionally shoots things. Collects books.

Berzee
18-11-2011, 09:28 PM
First I have to figure out how to take and find a screenshot, then I'll do this. =P I'm proud of my smug face.

db1331
18-11-2011, 09:33 PM
Nalano (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e342/jonmphy/Lanos/ScreenShot5.jpg), lvl25 Redguard self-hating blacksmith. Enjoys stark equipment advantage over all and sundry. Wears plated steel because of the conviction that decent armor plus extraneous spikes does not make great armor. Occasionally drags around long-suffering Lydia as ersatz pack mule/fashion model.

Mostly stabs things. Occasionally shoots things. Collects books.

I took Lydia out to one cave. I asked her to kindly GTFO in the first chamber. I just couldn't deal with her stupid. Last night I realized I might have to kill her just to get her the hell out of my house. It's like we're already married, but I never asked her.

Drake Sigar
18-11-2011, 09:57 PM
Drake (http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh154/AEedwin/2011-11-17_00002.jpg) - Kleptomaniac, connoisseur of fine mead, hates cat puns with a vengeance.


Nalano (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e342/jonmphy/Lanos/ScreenShot5.jpg), lvl25 Redguard self-hating blacksmith.

Nalano, you have... breasts!

Jockie
18-11-2011, 10:21 PM
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3504/2011111800009.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/2011111800009.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

This is Jockeia (I really need to be more inventive with my names, that was just lazy) A level 43 Redguard Swordswoman Today she is modelling some Ebony Mail, which is a sort of Stealth heavy armour (really, that is just cheating) you get from a certain quest, along with some home-made dragon plate.

sinister agent
18-11-2011, 10:49 PM
I'm not certain if this will work, but have a preview of my character. (http://lonelyasamushroomcloud.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/about-ymelda/) She's a bit of a dick, but not really.

Nalano
18-11-2011, 11:08 PM
Nalano, you have... breasts!

Drake, you have... fur!

Almost all (http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e342/jonmphy/Lanos/) my Nalanos have sweater puppies.

Kelron
18-11-2011, 11:51 PM
Ssss (I hate naming characters ok) - Level 25 Argonian con-man. Has successfully convinced the populace of Skyrim that he is a hero of ancient legend. Fires single "magic" arrows at dragons while the guards do all the work, and takes credit for it afterwards. When not basking in the adulation of the masses or being showered in treasure by the Jarls, he likes to spend his free time exploring the pockets and homes of the rich. The only worry in his mind is finding someone who can afford to buy 200 pieces of assorted jewellery.

thegooseking
19-11-2011, 12:17 AM
Lady Samantha Sammypants (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/648745786623224603/6F6630D082877731EF3506BA3D5AD2A5521C85E4/), level 29 Imperial sneaky sniper, lockbreaker and terrible pet-owner.

DigitalSignalX
19-11-2011, 12:34 AM
Phedre DuLay, Imperial rogue level 39 in 83 hours total play time. She prefers to keep things at a distance via the bow from stealth, but has on many occasion shown that her trusty daggers of paralysis can close the deal when a situation gets personal. She loves exploring and can often be found simply admiring the diverse scenery of Skyrim. Phedre collects butterflies, flawless gems, various unique weapons, shields and books - quite often liberating them with little regard for their rightful owners.

She was often accompanied by her secret love, a faithful steward named Lydia who recently died in a Dwemer ruin. It was an unfortunate combination of gravity, an ancient trap, and heavy armor that left her stricken with grief, doubting she'll ever travel with company again for fear of suffering another loss.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/8858/tesv2011111423195375.th.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/8858/tesv2011111423195375.jpg) http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3881/tesv2011111721475110.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3881/tesv2011111721475110.jpg) http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5282/tesv2011111711541360.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5282/tesv2011111711541360.jpg) http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7056/tesv2011111713175387.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7056/tesv2011111713175387.jpg)

The Tupper
19-11-2011, 01:46 AM
After some neutron star-esque heavy hints, Mrs The Tupper bought me Skyrim last weekend, via Steam. At the time, in order to demonstrate to her what a great game it would be (true, as it turns out - thankfully) I may have rushed through the initial character setup stage of the game.

I'm happy with my character as he is, but can anybody tell me if there was/is a full character generation stage during the game's setup? Y'know the kinda thing: physical characteristics and so on, like Dragon Age: Origins. I chose race (Imperial) during the setup, but that was all.

I'm not complaining, mind - I'm loving the game. I simply have a slight worry that I rushed the initial stages a bit too much. Feel free to take the piss out of me in either case.

DigitalSignalX
19-11-2011, 02:08 AM
... can anybody tell me if there was/is a full character generation stage during the game's setup? Y'know the kinda thing: physical characteristics and so on, like Dragon Age: Origins...

Yep, it's easy to overlook as people think the name should come first so they click past all the physical options pretty easily. The name is actually the last thing you want to do - all the sliders and options are prior.

The Tupper
19-11-2011, 02:54 AM
Yep, it's easy to overlook as people think the name should come first so they click past all the physical options pretty easily. The name is actually the last thing you want to do - all the sliders and options are prior. Buggeringflippingswiningdamningarseingbollocksingb umbags!

Am a bit boozed at the moment so shall make no major decisions, but I strongly suspect that I'll begin the game again from scratch tomorrow. So far I've covered less that a square mile in game terrain and have loved every inch of it, so it's not a big hardship.

sinister agent
19-11-2011, 03:21 AM
Bring up the console (typically the button to the left of 1 on the main keyboard) and type "showracemenu". That will allow you to change gender and appearance. You can also change your race, however be aware that if you change your race, it will do strange things to all your skills and any health/etc bonuses you've picked up. If you stick to your race, your stats don't change though, so you can change your appearance at will.

The Tupper
19-11-2011, 03:44 AM
Oh. Oh yes! That sounds like a brilliant compromise. Thank you very much.

I bloody love RPS.

Am off to bed. Night night everyone.

Smashbox
19-11-2011, 05:05 AM
83 hours total play time

D:

Barristan the bold, formerly Barristan the braggart, a Nord of Skyrim, fostered in Kvatch after the death of his parents. A drunkard and boaster who gave up wine after he saw the trade caravan he was paid to guard cut to shreds by outlaws. After taking a vow of silence and wandering Cyrodiil for what seemed like years, he was caught at the Skyrim border by Imperials. A fair hedge knight, but cruel to his enemies and not to be underestimated. Though wiry and old he may be, he will rend any who cross him limb from limb.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/614968789429580752/609FAF62F183148B1798603DCCCA8E36B5137934/

Skalpadda
19-11-2011, 05:37 AM
Laomedeia, lvl 28 (I think?) Redguard thiefy archery magey lady, currently seeking the favour of the Thieves guild. I'm terrible at specialising characters. She has fancier gear than the Old Gods set in the screenshot below, but I really like the tribal/shaman look of that set and it's got sneaking and archery bonuses which is nice.
http://home.arcor.de/skalpadda/scrn/skyrim_1.jpg

Stellar Duck
19-11-2011, 12:46 PM
My guy, Vidar Fellhand, a level late 20's Nord with a passion for sneaking and back stabbing.

The horse is the late Binky who sadly perished at the had of a dragon and 2 sabrecats. We had many grand adventures over the last 30 hours, Binky and I.

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He looks terribly boring in some ways, but I think I managed to make him a proper Nord. Though I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be some sort of white supremacy person. He looks the type.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/images/misc/pencil.png

BobsLawnService
19-11-2011, 06:46 PM
Mine is a level 7 Khajit called Freja (A witch feisty witch from Norse mythology.) Who dabbles in everything but stealth. She bucks convention by wearing heavy armour and slamming enemies in the face with a shield before hacking them to bits with her sword. She also moonlights as a warewolf from time to time just to make sure that everyone else stays on their toes.

Skalpadda
19-11-2011, 07:13 PM
Freja (A witch feisty witch from Norse mythology.)

Freja is the goddess of fertility.

apricotsoup
19-11-2011, 08:27 PM
Just don't equip the arch mage robes and one of those fancy masks, Not if you want to retain a head. May grab a screenshot later but I got quite dissapointed and stored things.

eRa
19-11-2011, 09:31 PM
Rawne, level 37 or so Nord warrior boasting a freshly crafted daedric armor. Getting daedra hearts is a pain in the ass in Skyrim.

With helmet:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7538/tesv2011111922245589.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/tesv2011111922245589.jpg/)

Without:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/568/tesv2011111922251223s.jpg

Wizardry
19-11-2011, 09:56 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/efjl7n.png

Nalano
19-11-2011, 10:17 PM
[Broken Record Syndrome]

Stop trying so hard.

Wizardry
19-11-2011, 10:39 PM
Why no sense of humour?


Location: NY f'n C
Oh. Never mind.

G915
19-11-2011, 11:05 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/efjl7n.png
well played, hehe

Nalano
19-11-2011, 11:26 PM
Why no sense of humour?

Because it's the same post you've written eight hundred times.

Wizardry
19-11-2011, 11:29 PM
Because it's the same post you've written eight hundred times.
I don't think I've posted that image before. Sorry.

DigitalSignalX
19-11-2011, 11:53 PM
D:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9181/15160436.jpg

Phedre still hasn't made it to 3 of the cities, and I'd estimate only 45% explored the map. She doesn't teleport, but has been known to relax with a horse drawn cart ride if it's convenient.

Drake Sigar
20-11-2011, 01:02 PM
Shireeeee... Bagginsssss?

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh154/AEedwin/2011-11-20_00004.jpg

BobsLawnService
20-11-2011, 01:32 PM
Is it just me or is everyone playing archery characters these days?

slick_101
20-11-2011, 02:02 PM
Is it just me or is everyone playing archery characters these days?

It's because archery + sneak is amazing, I'm level 77 archery with most of the perk unlocks, and sneak level of 50-something with the 3.0x damage with sneak attacks, I can kill most normal mobs with 1 elven arrow with my ebony (legendary) bow.

sinister agent
20-11-2011, 02:15 PM
Also, with a carryweight that allows you to have 30 swords at once, why not use a tiny fraction of that to give yourself a ranged option? There's no reason not to.

Drake Sigar
20-11-2011, 02:37 PM
Is it just me or is everyone playing archery characters these days?
The thing about dragons is they've been known to fly. Sitting there waiting for them to land when they're bored of doing drive-bys isn't my style.

AlonePlusEasyTarget
20-11-2011, 03:31 PM
K'aim, level 22, mostly played as thief+mage.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8079/2011112000010.jpg

Demiath
20-11-2011, 05:35 PM
My Level 28 Imperial soldier specializing in Heavy Armor and One-Handed swords. No dragons were harmed in the making of this screenshot since I don't use bows at all and only rarely throw some meager fireballs...
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/9242/2064042-2011_11_20_00023.jpg
...but if and when some stupid AI companion or villager happens to lure those sneaky lizard thingies to the ground, well, then all is fair game;
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/9242/2064041-2011_11_20_00022.jpg

Kelron
20-11-2011, 05:52 PM
It's because archery + sneak is amazing, I'm level 77 archery with most of the perk unlocks, and sneak level of 50-something with the 3.0x damage with sneak attacks, I can kill most normal mobs with 1 elven arrow with my ebony (legendary) bow.

And even if they survive, you can get multiple sneak attacks with a bow.

Drake Sigar
20-11-2011, 08:29 PM
I need a guide on how to create characters identical to the ones found in loading screens. Is it even possible? They look too awesome to exist.

coldvvvave
20-11-2011, 10:44 PM
21 lvl Dark elf, no armor at all, bow+sneak+magic, bald

My face is my shield.

http://i.imgur.com/lN9g5l.jpg (http://imgur.com/lN9g5)

Fiyenyaa
20-11-2011, 11:15 PM
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2614/2011111900003w.jpg

Fiyenyaa, level 27 warriory Redguard.
Currently trying to get to 100 smithing (on 71 right now). I use no ranged weapons other than my shouts, because I am a real warrior or something.

apricotsoup
21-11-2011, 12:14 AM
Naissa, level 38 jack of many trades, mostly frosty, axey battle mage.

Regular heavy armour:
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/278/2011112100005.jpg

Mage robes with silly circlet:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6421/2011112100002.jpg

Headless mode for scaring the children (silly bugs):
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3441/2011112100006.jpg

Serenegoose
01-12-2011, 04:13 PM
Just thought I'd quickly bring this thread back since I intended to post on it more than a week ago but perpetually forgot to take screenshots of my character and not the scenery.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/630732600919240054/0EF5A667ED93D02E29F76B1E424D48C6046876B4/

This would be Nala, my wood elf. As may be implied by the bow on her back she leaves people gifts of arrows delivered express to their back. she also rocks the mad alchemy and crafts her own armour. She would enchant it but I don't have the perk to upgrade magic armour yet. she is also a proud member of the winterhold mages college or whatever it's called (about that proud) admitted because they're a bunch of idiots that didn't notice that the only spells she knows are the ones they taught to her, and usually at the cost of her entire meager mana pool.

Drake Sigar
01-12-2011, 04:31 PM
I think as an elf they just expect you to know advanced magic, kinda like how we expect every Asian man to know kung fu...

Skalpadda
05-12-2011, 10:40 PM
Tindra, female Nord thiefy type. Sneak, daggers and poison arrows from the shadows with some illusion magic and various invisibility skills to get out of tight spots and come back for another ambush.
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1628/skyrim2v.jpg

Ravelle
06-12-2011, 04:21 PM
How do you guys make those action screenshots from the front without hud?

Smashbox
06-12-2011, 04:26 PM
Open the console (~), type tm to turn off menus & HUD, type tfc to toggle the free camera (it won't work properly unless you're in 3rd person)

Ravelle
06-12-2011, 04:28 PM
Aha, thanks!

afrobanzai
06-12-2011, 06:51 PM
My Khajiit, Razaki.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1613/skyrimrazaki2.jpg

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7374/skyrimrazaki.jpg

sinister agent
06-12-2011, 10:15 PM
Open the console (~), type tm to turn off menus & HUD, type tfc to toggle the free camera (it won't work properly unless you're in 3rd person)

Make it "tfc 1" to also freeze time, for action shots. "TM" gets rid of all menus and overlays (including the console itself, but you can still type in it - you just won't see it until you enter "tm" again), and "fov ##" can get you wider/narrower camera angles.

Smashbox
06-12-2011, 10:20 PM
Make it "tfc 1" to also freeze time

Didn't know that! Looks like that's how I'll be playing this game from now on.

PeteC
06-12-2011, 11:00 PM
Using the console will disable achievements though. Not fussed about that myself but I know they're important to some.

DigitalSignalX
07-12-2011, 12:03 AM
For quick and easy you can also just hold F while rotating camera with right click. Those are some great shots!

I've decided my next char will do no smithing or enchanting, using only picked up items. But that's a long way down the road, after the SDK.

Althea
13-12-2011, 05:23 PM
So, this is Sarah, my Nord warrior:
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7333/screenshot5ab.jpg

Think she's level 7 now, and I'm mostly putting my points into Two Handed, but also lockpicking and heavy armour.

Vendetta11
13-12-2011, 07:01 PM
Open the console (~), type tm to turn off menus & HUD, type tfc to toggle the free camera (it won't work properly unless you're in 3rd person)

typing "tm" also works.......... :)

DigitalSignalX
14-12-2011, 02:35 AM
So, this is Sarah, my Nord warrior:
...
Think she's level 7 now, and I'm mostly putting my points into Two Handed, but also lockpicking and heavy armour.

Is this your first play through?


typing "tm" also works.......... :)

erm, isn't that the same as what you quoted?

Wulf
14-12-2011, 03:07 AM
This inimitable feline fellow is Kyraniir.

http://s12.postimage.org/6buz94g55/Skyrim_Kyraniir_1.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/6buz94g55/)

(Click for bigger version.)

Normally Kyraniir deals with things by punching them. However, when he's having his picture taken at a particularly scenic and dangerous location, then it's only right to have a pair of rare, enchanted blades on hand. (He does toy with them sometimes, if only rarely.)

Kyraniir is often seen punching his way through tombs, crypts, and the like, accidentally stumbling over traps, and being the most clumsy and noisy Khajiit ever. He's also probably the most honourable too, and prides himself on being so, but at the same time he still has the customary cleverness that one expects of a Khajiit and he's been complimented too many times on his honeyed words. He's also good at fiddling with locks, which he's also had mentioned to him too many times.

Kyraniir worries about the worldwide psychic guard cabal, and fears that they're always watching him. Always. All the time. Everywhere. Always watching.

Generally though, Kyraniir is the one people go to if they're particularly unhappy and generally he makes them happy. He's tripped up here or there, but he's done a lot of good for Skyrim. He's fond of Whiterun most of all, where his Companions hang out, and where he has a lovely little house with a less little werewolf spouse.

Kyraniir is often seen running from dragons whilst the Dovahkiin music plays ironically just to mock him. He is often heard muttering about how he's going to find every man involved in that choir and kick them in the nuts, individually, himself.

Likes: Punching, bar brawls, aiding the downtroddened.
Pet peeves: Insane wizards, racist bigots, fascists, genocidal bigots (oh man, those are the worst).

(Unfortunately, Kyraniir's pet peeves seem to make up a good portion of Skyrim's population, and thus he's probably wiped out a good 42.7% of said population in self defence.)

And now, just because I can... obligatory dragon-riding screenshot.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE~!!!

http://s11.postimage.org/8d9etet2n/Skyrim_Kyraniir_2.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/8d9etet2n/)

Nalano
14-12-2011, 05:20 AM
Pet peeves: Insane wizards, racist bigots, fascists, genocidal bigots (oh man, those are the worst).

(Unfortunately, Kyraniir's pet peeves seem to make up a good portion of Skyrim's population, and thus he's probably wiped out a good 42.7% of said population in self defence.)

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/50332_212893249979_8820_n.jpg

i c wut u did thar.

Wulf
14-12-2011, 06:56 AM
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/50332_212893249979_8820_n.jpg

i c wut u did thar.

Finally. :P

But yes, that's the sort of thing that happens in Skyrim. The "dog eat dog world" really doesn't apply to another game as much as it does that one. It's literally a game about everyone trying to kill everyone else, and one madman attempting to make sense of it all.

No one's quite got the joke of that yet, or of it in Skyrim. You have so many groups that are out to simply commit genocide (so many) and often you'll become the target of them. If it's not the Dark Brotherhood then it's the Silver Hand, and if it's not them then it's someone else. And all people can seem to think about is how much they want to kill/outcast something on the merits of it being different.

Perhaps it's because I'm sensitive to the issue, but the xenophobia in Skyrim is cloying; It's something I can't help but joke about. Hopefully I'll get to go to Elsweyr in a later game. The Khajiit aren't so bad, at least. They just want to steal every shiny, overly expensive thing you have. I can live with that.

---

I can't think of the times in Skyrim I've thought to myself "I'm not going to be able to reason with these guys, am I?", followed by "They're just going to try to kill me outright because bigotry or whatever." and it's always the case. I know I harp on about liking dialogue, but in Skyrim I would really like the option to try to reason a bit more with the tens of organisations or groups of people who want me dead, or who want my friends dead.

Instead, they just throw themselves at my Khajiit's fists. And they never want to talk.

Sometimes it feels like an old Hercules: The Legendary Journeys episode, and I sigh to myself thinking "Nobody ever wants to do it the easy way." And really, I think I managed to kill less people through reason in Phantasy Star for the Master System than I did in Skyrim. And I'm not sure what I think about that.

Shane
14-12-2011, 07:12 AM
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1738/screenshot6053.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/screenshot6053.jpg/)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6195/screenshot16z.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/522/screenshot16z.jpg/)

Saeyrrin: 23 level sneak-archer with archery at 67 and sneak at 64. Psychotic tendencies and corrupt nature. Consider Talos worship to be a pile of bull and hateful at the Empire for nearly lopping his head off, therefore, chooses not to pick sides. Feels camaraderie towards other soldiers of fortune. Consumes the meat other races, as per tradition, after killing them. Killed his first dragon and off to meet the Greybeards at his leisure.

I tried to play this character in a uum... somewhat realistic manner, for example walking in towns, not using fast traveling, etc but got bored after a dozen hours. Still, he doesn't touch any flora as per his Green Pact faith.

Squiz
14-12-2011, 08:25 AM
Yikes, your guy looks like the love(?)-child of the Jigsaw/Saw-puppet and the Joker... as an Elf.

Shane
14-12-2011, 09:32 AM
Mission accomplished. I hate playing the good guy in games.

Althea
14-12-2011, 10:01 AM
Is this your first play through?
Yup. Only got the game on Monday, in the evening too, so I've not had much chance to put some hours into it.

Dovahkiin
14-12-2011, 10:35 AM
ATM I got 160+ hours of playing, and I'm in my 3rd playthrough.
Here are my 3 characters (from creating order):

Dovahkiin
Level: 32;
Sex: Male
Race: Nord;
Main Skills: One-Handed, Block, Light Armor and Archery;
Follower: Marcurio;
Factions: Stormcloaks, Companions
This one was my Neutral Good, a nice guy who liked nord culture and punching bad people. I started playing on Adept difficulty, and didn't had any trouble. Although I liked this character's combat style, he started to get boring, so I finished the main quest rather quickly
I accidentally deleted this character, and I don't have any screenshots of him. He had the default nord appearance and used elven armor, elven gauntlets, glass boots, glass shield and ebony sword.


Kajiya
Level: 40;
Sex: Female;
Race: Khajit;
Main Skills: Sneak, One-Handed, Pickpocket and Alchemy;
Follower: none;
Factions: Companions, Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood.
I must say this was my favorite character. Kajiya was a greedy thief and murderer but with still some honor and kindness. I really enjoyed playing with a sneaky character, and specially with a khajit (which is my favorite race). Had no trouble playing with this character on Expert difficulty, although sometimes it was a little hard to kill Elder Dragons when it wasn't possible to kill them by sneaking up on them and killing them with a single attack, since my character had weak defenses and had to rely on bow and arrow most of the time.

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Elenwen (current character)
Level: 13;
Sex: Female;
Race: Altmer;
Main Skills: Destruction, Conjuration, Restoration, Illusion;
Follower: Lydia;
Factions: Imperial Legion, College of Winterhold, Dark Brotherhood;
This is my "Neutral Evil" character. A sexy high-elf with passion for magic and power.
This is my first time playing as a mage and this time on Master difficulty. Killing dragons seems to be easier with this character than with the other ones. I'm having a lot of fun on this character, although I still prefer my Khajit. Playing on Master difficulty this time, a little harder, but nothing this character can't handle.
Soon I'll take some screenshots of this character.

Vendetta11
14-12-2011, 05:07 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/21c6xqs.jpg

Verick Theirry
Breton Battlemage, level 56
Poured in about 90 hours on this dude. Main skills- One handed, Destruction, Restoration, Heavy Armor, Enchanting, Smithing are all at level 90 or above (some maxed out at 100)
Main follower- Aela the Huntress (who I also married.... lol)

Vendetta11
14-12-2011, 05:12 PM
erm, isn't that the same as what you quoted?

LOL.... whoops.....

Drake Sigar
14-12-2011, 06:05 PM
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1738/screenshot6053.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/screenshot6053.jpg/)
What's wrong with your faaaace? You look like you're related to Meg Mucklebones.

Nalano
14-12-2011, 06:12 PM
What's wrong with your faaaace? You look like you're related to Meg Mucklebones.

What? All mer are ugly.


No one's quite got the joke of that yet, or of it in Skyrim.

Dude, you and me are like right here (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?2069-Games-and-Identity.&p=58513&viewfull=1#post58513).

Tei
14-12-2011, 07:37 PM
really nice character, Skalpadda

DigitalSignalX
14-12-2011, 09:44 PM
Verick Theirry
Breton Battlemage, level 56

Nice, those red scars remind me of a heavily renegade Mass Effect / KOTOR character.




Dovahkiin
Level: 32;
...
I accidentally deleted this character, and I don't have any screenshots of him.

Ouch, how did that happen?

Vendetta11
14-12-2011, 10:58 PM
Nice, those red scars remind me of a heavily renegade Mass Effect / KOTOR character.

I was going for that look. :D

Although, Verick is a total "hero" type in Skyrim. So just imagine an extremely ugly/scary looking bloke helping little old ladies cross the streets of Whiterun....
O_o

I have started a female Dark Elf that will be my thief/assassin character. I'll post pix of her at some point.

Skalpadda
15-12-2011, 02:38 AM
really nice character, Skalpadda

Thankoo :)

I always try to make my characters a bit ugly at first, but then end up prettying them up because I get annoyed by their unsightliness. This bothers me more than it probably should.

Shane
15-12-2011, 03:41 AM
What? All mer are ugly.

I really like the way elves have been portrayed visually and otherwise in Skyrim, I would have killed all of them had they been the generic Tolkien-esque type.

Pace
15-12-2011, 07:13 AM
Thankoo :)

I always try to make my characters a bit ugly at first, but then end up prettying them up because I get annoyed by their unsightliness. This bothers me more than it probably should.
Oh my. I just went back a page to see. I approve. Very much so. Indeed. This bothers me less than it probably should.

Althea
15-12-2011, 09:39 AM
Well, yesterday I used the console to tweak my Nord, so this is my level 10/11 (I forget) Nord "warrior":
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8880/screenshot15te.jpg

I've got a fine Iron helmet in my favourites menu, which makes her look pretty awesome:
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6145/2011121400008.jpg

Dovahkiin
15-12-2011, 06:04 PM
Ouch, how did that happen?

Well... I had like 50 different saves and I decided to clean my save folder. I had like 25 different saves for Dovahkiin. What I wanted was to delete all my saves except for the last one of each character I had. There were too many saves so I started to quickly delete them, and accidentaly I deleted all Dovahkiin's saves. It was kinda stupid, but I didn't really like that character, so it's okay.

Vendetta11
15-12-2011, 06:19 PM
Here is Tilse Tissamsi-

http://oi39.tinypic.com/nq4wht.jpg

Wulf
15-12-2011, 07:52 PM
Dude, you and me are like right here (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?2069-Games-and-Identity.&p=58513&viewfull=1#post58513).

Yeah, I know. I... kind of gave up on that thread. There are just too many people defending it, which leaves me incredulous.

See, the kind of things you point out in that thread would be the same things that a book or film critic would pick up on, but most gamers are so incredibly and amazingly overzealous in their past-time that they turn it into a religion, and they can't admit when someone has a negative point to make against it, even if it's constructively made.

The casual genocide of Skyrim is just a facet of some ephemeral ball of wrongness that I'm trying to put together in my head. Mostly it's that we seem to detach ourselves from the world we're in in abstract ways, where I try to get into a game and understand it, it seems that other gamers are taking themselves out of the game and overlaying it with the game they wished it was. Thus 'filling in the blanks with imagination.'

But filling in the blanks with imagination is a silly excuse. If I come across blank paragraphs in a book then I might think it's a clever art statement, but I'd be confused, and unless they pulled it off very well then I'd either assume that it was a mistake, or simply lazy. But this isn't something that we're allowed to leverage at games. As there are many things that don't make sense when you look at them critically: All of the killing we do in a game like Skyrim is one of those things.

What I find, however, is that people don't want to look at their past-time critically. It's like they're afraid to, which is why we get overzealous defences. I think that most are terrified at what they'd find. And really, with Skyrim, as a thought exercise I'd be pleased if many people would actually look at their kill count in their status and think about what that overly large number means to them.

These aren't presented as people with lives. Half the pages in Skyrim are blank, and if you 'fill in the blanks with your imagination' then you have to move on from there, as I did. See, this is why I think that 'filling in the blanks with your imagination' is such a bad excuse, since I don't think that people are doing that at all. I think that I am doing that, yes, but are the people who're actually spouting the line? I don't think so. I'd call that out.

The thing of it is is that when you actually do use your imagination, it's like the point you brought up in that thread, the one that seemed to go over the head of the person you were arguing with. If you write in these pages and give these people a face, then you're a murderer. If you assume that this bandit had a name, a family, and motives, then you've created tens of thousands of widows. What does that make you? When playing these games we don't stop to talk to these people, we just kill them.

So what if one of those bandits was just someone who was being blackmailed into it? Where's that story? And where are the distraught families? Where are the warlords controlling these large groups of bandits? Why are so many bandits working together? And like you said, it becomes a popular revolutioin, and then we just move onto genocide. And people who claim that they're using their imagination are doing the exact opposite, they're shutting off their brain and their imagination, they're just accepting it. They're taking their medicine like good little boys and girls without ever once questioning the nature of what it is they're doing, or have done.

So you have these blank pages, and that's my problem really, because when you try to fill in these blank pages it creates problems. The more you think about it, the more you use your mind and try and rationalise this world, the more you imply that it exists and try to imagine how it works, the less believable it becomes. And with every group more you kill, the more difficult it becomes to suspend disbelief.

I'm going to move onto another topic in a moment, but I'll point out that even Champions Online is smart enough to lampshade this. No, really. Champs Online seems to be more with it than most gamers are. I'll explain. In Champions Online, you frequently get people yelling at you. You get stuff like...

"That was my brother in VIPER, damn it! It was his first day, he was a bum just trying to make a living and you broke his arms and legs!"

...and...

"The Black Aces aren't actually bothering anyone! Why don't you leave them alone?!"

You get this from random citizens.

And you know... they have a point. Cryptic has a bloody point. I know they're just trying to be funny, but they're just lampshading something that goes on in their own game. The Black Aces aren't actually doing anything, and they only attack when the players (who seem very much like bounty hunters) turn up on the scene. Same for all of the gangs in the game.

And it's the same for Skyrim.

I mean, looking at it from another perspective. Skyrim seems to have you in the role of a hateful, murderous madman (or woman). You run around slaughtering people. You head into a cave of people who haven't actually done any wrong that you've seen, and you kill the lot of them. I mean, there used to be jokes about this. With old JRPGs and all, there were great jokes about how heroes are invariably complete jerks.

There was one game that brilliantly parodied this concept. Let me see if I can't find it...

Ah, here we go! Moon (http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/573238-moon/reviews/review-38576). It was for the PlayStation. Brilliant little thing.

The idea of moon is that the game the player sees and the world behind it is actually quite different. So when the hero randomly kills a dog nearby a town and loots its corpse, it' just part of the game. But in Moon you find out that the dog was being cared for by an old lady, who's obviously very upset about his death. There are things like that, and it makes sense, because back in the day that's how RPGs were. And yet, I like to think that we've come a long way since then.

I'll raise my gold standard here: New Vegas.

New Vegas had very few blank pages. Obsidian actually went out of their way to give everyone a personality, not only that, but they tried to give as many people as possible an angle. And if you could meet their angle by bartering, talking, trading, or even threatening, then you wouldn't have to kill them. I mean, I talked my way out of the very last fight in the game, I talked Caesar's Legion into retreating. That was something else.

Now, see, if Skyrim had actually filled in some of its own pages, it would have been a very different game indeed. It would have actually had to have different mechanics, and speech would have needed to matter more. There would have had to have been more complicated factions, and connections between factions. But as it is Skyrim is very, very simplified when compared to New Vegas and, as much as anyone may like it or not, Skyrim has more in common with an old 8- or 16-bit console RPG than anyone could care to admit.

In RPGs of yore, it would be par the course to head into a dungeon and kill a bunch of things, because that was all that could be done. There was no real story there, and if you did add a story then you'd seem like some kind of cantankerous, murderous thief with questionable morals. This is because there was no story, it had no identity, it was just a murder and thievery simulation. That's all it was.

My problem with Skyrim, I suppose, is that Skyrim is just a murder and thievery simulation.

It's very old fashioned.

It has pretenses of having a grand story, but that's where it all falls apart, because it's a book only half written. There are so many blank pages, and when you fill in the blank pages they completely contradict the story that Bethesda are trying to tell. And in a world like that, you either have to restrict people into following your story, or you tell multiple stories and let the player pick and choose their way through it.

But with Skyrim, it is restrictive, it's their story. But the actions of the player don't seem to fit the proclaimed hero, the Dovahkiin.

They might call me a hero. But I don't feel too heroic.

But when I talked Caesar's Legion into retreating in New Vegas? That felt amazing.

---

Frankly, I'm thinking only a handful of people here are going to be able to understand my point, anyway. Or perhaps more will, but they'll feel the need to argue against what I've said just to defend their hobby.

But really, imagination? Imagination. Is. What. I. Do. And that doesn't apply to too many others I've argued with, I think. I mean, there are so many blank pages in Skyrim. So many faces who are blank pages. Now, using this imagination of mine, I've thought to myself 'what would happen if I could stop them and talk to them for a bit?' and where that leads.

"Don't you have a family waiting for you?"
"What could possibly be worth your life?"
"Why are you doing this? A few of your friends have attacked and fallen, will you do any better?"
"Are you high on some drug? I can help you!"
"Why does your leader bid you to do this? What are his or her true motives?"
"Were you an adventurer like me before you took an arrow to the knee?"

I mean, being able to stop and ask the bandits these things would be a game-changer. I can think of instances in New Vegas and other games where I've actually talked people out of banditry, or at the very least to stand down and listen to reason. All it should take is one or two stupid bandits for the rest to listen, but the suicidal, lemming-like nature of the bandits makes no sense.

The only way it makes sense is if, according the story, I'm not giving these people a chance no matter what they say, and I'm just murdering them anyway. That's the only thing that fits the evidence. And so many of us are doing that. If that's the case though, then how can we be heroes, and how can we possibly feel heroic? We can't even disarm them and arrest them, either. We can't leave them tied up in a dungeon and alert a guard patrol to go to collect them. All we can do is kill them.

Each of these 'people' is just a blank page, waiting to be killed.

If this was anything like a believable world, then after a while I'd get a reputation, and you'd think these bandits would be more willing to talk. Hell, some of them might even throw down their swords and give up, or run. But that doesn't happen.

That's my problem with Skyrim.

Vendetta11
15-12-2011, 08:30 PM
Wall of blubbering text

So.. ummm.... what does your Skyrim character look like?

Nalano
15-12-2011, 08:56 PM
Skyrim suffers from the same problem as Fallout 3: There are more bandits than people they're robbing. The local economy doesn't work. Starvation should be rampant.

That and a lot of folks - bandits, thieves, all manner of fauna - seem to hate life enough to regularly commit Suicide By Hero (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuicideByCop).


So.. ummm.... what does your Skyrim character look like?

Nalano is fairly certain (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594705141198053781/40D6A888BBE0C6D69031FED0697BDD987E7FDD67/) she's being stalked by a cat.

DigitalSignalX
15-12-2011, 11:16 PM
only a handful of people here are going to be able to understand my point, anyway. Or perhaps more will, but they'll feel the need to argue against what I've said just to defend their hobby.


So.. ummm.... what does your Skyrim character look like?

You clearly don't get it. Don't argue.

Skalpadda
16-12-2011, 03:30 PM
I've reached a point in the game which is a bit weird, where my core skills (the ones I've spent perks on) are either at 100 or close to it, so I've had to start using other ones in order to level up. Kind of wish I'd been training every level since the start of the game instead of starting around level 40. Anyway, my light armour thief character is now suddenly running around in heavy armour, with a shield and melee weapons while spamming various kinds of crappy magic she doesn't really know how to use effectively.

She looks pretty mean though.
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1715/skyrimglittra2.jpg

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/6552/skyrimglittra.jpg

Tei
16-12-2011, 03:43 PM
Wow again.

I don't even know you can get these graphics with the game. Is that hair on vanilla Skyrim?

Skalpadda
16-12-2011, 03:51 PM
Yeah, I'm not using any mods, just a few .ini tweaks to increase draw distances and (not very successfully) try to smooth the horrible shadows.

PeopleLikeFrank
16-12-2011, 04:06 PM
Hriss Ratstabber
Level 40-ish. Queen of thieves. Sister of the Brotherhood (har). Eater of the dead. Runner-away from dragons.
Perks spent almost entirely in sneak, alchemy, marksman.
Having risen through the guild of thieves, she's joined the Brotherhood. (It disappoints me that this is only done through the official quest - I prefer to think of it having resulted from a certain highly irritating Thieve's Guild bouncer suddenly feeling rather ill before falling over and not getting up again.) Since a certain other quest resulted in ghoulish tendencies, she's decided to be a responsible hunter and not waste any of her Dark Brotherhood targets. (Rumours in Solitude of a bride becoming a main dish at her own wedding feast.) Attacked on sight in four of the nine holds, though sometimes bewildered as to why.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/632985838126716447/5496AD548671F1292ECE0B578219902ACECA18C0/

In other news, it's rather entertaining playing an utter bastard in Skyrim.

Nova
16-12-2011, 04:07 PM
My Altmer Arch-Mage

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9118/2011121600001small.jpg

Berzee
16-12-2011, 05:55 PM
a certain highly irritating Thieve's Guild bouncer

Would that be Dirge?
When I played, he was suddenly overwhelmed with a strange Fury, and attacked his former friends so Furiously that they had to put him down...and restore the peace.

PeopleLikeFrank
17-12-2011, 05:12 AM
Would that be Dirge?
When I played, he was suddenly overwhelmed with a strange Fury, and attacked his former friends so Furiously that they had to put him down...and restore the peace.

Excellent. I approve. And yes, that would be the one. :)