PC Bargains

[Althea]

I was under the impression that it was mostly used that way.
Civ5, Fallout 3, Borderlands, etc.
They did use them, you're right, although Civ 5 GotY seems to not be that easy to find unless you get it from Steam (there was a retail edition floating around, but it didn't seem to ship in huge numbers).

But currently, the trend seems to be for games to use other terms for their complete editions, so New Vegas is coming out with its Ultimate edition this year, GTA IV came out with Complete at the end of 2010, Mafia II was a Director's Cut and so on. That's not to say games aren't releasing GotY editions, they're just not as common now.

[marklar]

Space Marine just 12.50$ today on green man gaming!
the key you get activates on steam
www.greenmangaming.com/games/action/warhammer-40000-space-marine/?gmgr=qecuzoge

(http://www.greenmangaming.com/games/action/warhammer-40000-space-marine/?gmgr=qecuzoge)

[Heliocentric]

My face is my shield.
Space Marine is £7.50 in the Queen's tissue paper.

[Heliocentric]

Dream killer is on sale on steam for not very much, but I'm still recovering from the steam sale... I'm not sure if any game can be worth as much as £.70 without the chance of virally winning other games by playing it.

That's potentially infinite games son.

[Revisor]

Dream killer is not good, don't bother with it.

[Althea]

Dream killer is not good, don't bother with it.
Care to elaborate?

My biggest problem with it so far is that it's a massive 10GB download, so I might just have to leave my PC to download it one night or something.

[SirKicksalot]

Care to elaborate?

My biggest problem with it so far is that it's a massive 10GB download, so I might just have to leave my PC to download it one night or something.

Are you familiar with the two Painkiller expansions that weren't made by PCF?
This is worse. It's basically a shitty Painkiller expansion with a different premise and even worse performance than the other two turds. I hope you didn't buy it.



It has achievements though!

[Althea]

Are you familiar with the two Painkiller expansions that weren't made by PCF?
This is worse. It's basically a shitty Painkiller expansion with a different premise and even worse performance than the other two turds. I hope you didn't buy it.
I did buy it (I've been eyeing it for some time), and I'm not particularly bothered as it was cheap. The devs of Dreamkiller did the Overdose spin-off from Painkiller, too ;)

[scorpionbruno]

Indie Royale New Years bundle is LIVE !!!!! Nuclear Dawn is in it .

[alms]

X-com Pack 66% off on Steam.

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/964/

[Juan Carlo]

Worst non-bargain of the week:

Age of Empires 3 is on steam (yay!), but it's 40 dollars full price (huh?) and currently is 50% off.

That seems a bit excessive for a 6 year old game which isn't even the best of the series.

How many 6 year old games out there are still 40 dollars?

[Heliocentric]

How many 6 year old games out there are still 40 dollars?

£14.99 in the UK, but seeing as i got it off GFW Market place for £1 (the complete version) a while ago this seems stupid.

[Mac]

HOMM 6 Deluxe for £9.98 on GreenManGaming

[Mac]

£14.99 in the UK, but seeing as i got it off GFW Market place for £1 (the complete version) a while ago this seems stupid.

Wasn't it 10p on GFWL?

[Heliocentric]

Wasn't it 10p on GFWL?

Probably, I forget, its filed in my brain as almost free anyway.



HOMM 6 Deluxe for £9.98 on GreenManGaming
The gentleman provides a link... Unless its steam.
http://www.greenmangaming.co.uk/games/strategy/might-and-magic-heroes-vi-deluxe-edition/

[vinraith]

Worst non-bargain of the week:

Age of Empires 3 is on steam (yay!), but it's 40 dollars full price (huh?) and currently is 50% off.

That seems a bit excessive for a 6 year old game which isn't even the best of the series.

How many 6 year old games out there are still 40 dollars?

It's an insane price point, but it's nice to see MS releasing games to platforms beyond GfWL. I'd love nothing more than to see an AoE complete pack and Rise of Nations on digital download services, especially GOG.

[trjp]

AOEIII was VERY cheap on GFWL earlier this year - can't remember exactly how much because I got it using the spare points I had left from buying XBLIG games!!

[Althea]

It was about 10MS points, which in real money is absolutely nothing.

[Heliocentric]

I have never owned ms points. It was pence

[Althea]

You can buy things through the GfWL Marketplace with real money too, but the prices were - at the time, at least - listed in Moon Money.

[Mac]

The gentleman provides a link... Unless its steam.
http://www.greenmangaming.co.uk/games/strategy/might-and-magic-heroes-vi-deluxe-edition/

LOL - too true, but in my defence I posted it from my phone and creating links is a pain on that. I thought it better to share :)

[BarneyL]

Deus EX HR is now only £7.49 over on Greenman Gaming
http://www.greenmangaming.co.uk/games/rpgs/deus-ex-human-revolution/

[qizarate]

Drakensang: The Dark Eye is currently £2.50 on gamersgate: http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-DRAK/drakensang-the-dark-eye

The RRP is listed as £4.99, which is oddly low to begin with. I'm convinced there's been some pricing mix-up with the DLC. Best to take advantage while it lasts though, and having bought and installed it, i can confirm that this is the full game.

[Althea]

Yes, there's been a lot of issues with availability but next to none with the game.

It looks like GamersGate keep putting the US copies up for sale, even in the EU, which is bizarre because they've put Philasseaon's Secret (probably spelt wrong) on sale and made it available whereas they haven't with The River of Time, so you can buy the expansion but not the game it links to (the installer for PS also installs in the wrong place, so you have to copypasta it), but I would suggest anyone with an English-language retail version of TRoT from the EU to buy PS, just to remove the need for the disc in the drive.

This (http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-DRAKEN/the-dark-eye-drakensang) is the EU version of the game (note the correct title!), by the way.

[qizarate]

Thanks for the additional info. I wasn't aware of that when i bought it. Out of curiosity, do you have any idea if the German language files are included in the English Language EU version? And otherwise, are there any major differences between the US and the EU versions?

[Althea]

No differences that I'm aware of between US and EU. Basically ValuSoft are a distributor for the US, but publishing rights still remain with dtp in Germany. I could be wrong, but I believe they're practically the same.

As for German language, I'm not entirely sure. As far as I know, the German language is not included - nor is it possible to add it - but again, I could have been misinformed. You're better off looking at the Drakensang boards on the dtp site.

[qizarate]

Thanks for the info. I feel better about having bought the US version now. It would've been nice to have at least had the option of using the German audio, but nevermind.

[Althea]

Thanks for the info. I feel better about having bought the US version now. It would've been nice to have at least had the option of using the German audio, but nevermind.
There's not really all that many lines of dialogue, so you're not missing too much IMHO.

Oh, for anyone else who's curious - the US version of Philasseaon's Secret *does* work with an EU-language retail edition, but with a bit of copypasta of some files.

[Revisor]

It's not really a sale but a standard low price.
A survival horror - Cursed Mountain, which was a pretty underrated game according to some, is sold only for 5 dollars on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Silver-40781ed-Mountain2-Mountain/dp/B005JF4KKC/

I can't judge it as I haven't played it but I plan to.

[Colonel J]

Renegade Ops £2.49 at GMG (http://www.greenmangaming.co.uk/games/action/renegade-ops/) and it doesn't say so on the site but it includes the two DLC packs Coldstrike Campaign and Reinforcement pack. Which is a pretty damn good deal, better than the Steam sale and I missed getting this there. In fact I am wondering if this might be a mistake, the two DLCs don't show a separate discount and together are worth £4.79. GMG doesn't say how long this deal is running, so get in there fast if you want this.
(Edit; the deal is for 24 hours says their Twitter)

Steamworks game so you don't have to bother with the GMG downloader. I only noticed the DLC was there as it showed up in the Steam properties after I activated it.

Despite our empty wallets and New Years resolutions GMG is quietly still punting out some good sale deals into January - they also have Batman Arkham City for £12 today.

[scorpionbruno]

Here it is 12 euro's , grrrrrr

[Roufuss]

Despite our empty wallets and New Years resolutions GMG is quietly still punting out some good sale deals into January - they also have Batman Arkham City for £12 today.

Maybe one day they will actually make it into the Bargain Bucket.

[sabrage]

Note that GMG's Arkham City does NOT activate on Steam.Amazon has Civ IV Complete (http://www.amazon.com/Sid-Meiers-Civilization-IV-Complete/dp/B00475AYUA/ref=br_lf_m_1000728511_1_2_img?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&pf_rd_p=1343063942&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_i=1000728511&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0DTMRFZT0QFB043CGYXG) and V (http://www.amazon.com/Sid-Meiers-Civilization-V-Download/dp/B004774IPU/ref=br_lf_m_1000728511_1_1_img?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&pf_rd_p=1343063942&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_i=1000728511&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0DTMRFZT0QFB043CGYXG) for $9 each, and if you've still got one of those $5 credits kicking around you can bring the price down to $4.

[vinraith]

Note that GMG's Arkham City does NOT activate on Steam.Amazon has Civ IV Complete (http://www.amazon.com/Sid-Meiers-Civilization-IV-Complete/dp/B00475AYUA/ref=br_lf_m_1000728511_1_2_img?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&pf_rd_p=1343063942&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_i=1000728511&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0DTMRFZT0QFB043CGYXG) and V (http://www.amazon.com/Sid-Meiers-Civilization-V-Download/dp/B004774IPU/ref=br_lf_m_1000728511_1_1_img?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&pf_rd_p=1343063942&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_i=1000728511&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0DTMRFZT0QFB043CGYXG) for $9 each, and if you've still got one of those $5 credits kicking around you can bring the price down to $4.

Furthermore doesn't GMG have its own client, in which case Arkham City would be saddled with that AND GfWL?

Not a dealbreaker for some, I'm sure, but something to know.

[Heliocentric]

I assumed Batman:AA would activate on Steam(dont know why), TY for the warning.

[alms]

These threads may be helpful:

http://forums.greenmangaming.com/topic/343/ (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2046945)
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2046945

GMG games that can be activated on Steam.

[sabrage]

Furthermore doesn't GMG have its own client, in which case Arkham City would be saddled with that AND GfWL?
Capsule is only necessary to download the games. You can uninstall it once you have the game on your computer.

[sabrage]

This was not supposed to be here.

[marklar]

another daily deal from green man gaming, this time fear 3 for just 6.14$
www.greenmangaming.com/games/shooter/fear-3/?gmgr=qecuzoge

[Revisor]

Clean link
http://www.greenmangaming.com/games/shooter/fear-3/

[Heliocentric]

Clean link
http://www.greenmangaming.com/games/shooter/fear-3/

Thank you, and if anyone posts referer links without mentioning them I strongly think the posts should be deleted. Be honest if you are trying to cash in.


Capsule is only necessary to download the games. You can uninstall it once you have the game on your computer.

What about the drm to make sure you have not traded in?

[sabrage]

What about the drm to make sure you have not traded in?
I actually have no idea; regardless, Arkham City can't be traded in (not that it matters now the deal is over)

[Revisor]

Just bought Fear3 on GMG. It gives you a key that adds the game to your Steam library. No Capsule needed.

[Heliocentric]

Just bought Fear3 on GMG. It gives you a key that adds the game to your Steam library. No Capsule needed.

We have most of a day left to buy it, I would value any opinions. Notes, I liked fear 1 but got bored, I felt fear 2 had better atmosphere but eventually got confused towards the end, I combat felt a touch naff too.

[Janek]

I got it [Fear 3] over Christmas and I'm not overly impressed from what I've played so far (admittedly not much) - the combat is an improvement on 2 but I still don't think it matches up to the original's. It doesn't help that some combat moves (like the classic sliding kick) have to be unlocked as you level up. Ugh. It's hard to judge the atmosphere, spoiled as it is by constant (and I mean constant) popups about achievements. Not just from the Steam overlay either, no, they're in nice bright colours across one side of the HUD.

If I can find a mod to turn the cocking things off I suspect I'll be a million times more well-disposed towards it. As it stands, it can sit in my "to play later" list.

[Heliocentric]

@Janke just to be clear, you mean fear 3? Because it's hard to tell.

[Janek]

Oh sorry yes Fear 3.

[Miker]

Here are Amazon Digital Download's deals for next week. They're pretty damn good, but they're rather ridiculous if you have a $5 promo code from last year.

1/15 – Alice Madness Returns: $7.49 - $2.49 with $5 Holiday Promo Code
1/16 – Dragon Age Origins Ultimate Edition + Dragon Age 2 Bundle: $11.99 - $6.99 with $5 Holiday Promo Code
1/17 – Medal of Honor - $6.99 - $1.99 with $5 holiday promo code
1/18 – Battlefield Bad Company 2 - $6.99 - $1.99 with $5 holiday promo code
1/19 – Dead Space 2 - $6.99 - $1.99 with $5 holiday promo code
1/20 – Bulletstorm - $6.99 - $1.99 with $5 holiday promo code
1/21 – Crysis 2 - $9.99 - $4.99 with $5 holiday promo code

I plan on picking up Crysis 2 for $5 myself, though I wish I had more coupons to spend on some of those other deals.

[sabrage]

The forums have been rather shitty in general since the "upgrade" a few weeks ago. Myself, I'll probably flip a coin between Dead Space 2 and Crysis 2.

[Rauten]

BulletStorm for 2$? well hello there, sweetie.

[Miker]

Just a reminder -- you'll need a holiday promo code to take advantage of those after coupon deals.

[Revisor]

We have most of a day left to buy it, I would value any opinions. Notes, I liked fear 1 but got bored, I felt fear 2 had better atmosphere but eventually got confused towards the end, I combat felt a touch naff too.
Unfortunately upon starting Fear 3 my whole computer crashed and doesn't start anymore. No, really. It's not because of Fear3 but I guess my video card finally gave in with that heavy fan I installed that has bent it for 2 years.


1/15 – Alice Madness Returns: $7.49
Yay, at last! Been waiting for a better price on the new Alice and this is the best deal so far.

[Doodier]

Here are Amazon Digital Download's deals for next week.
And when do they start? Or are they on already and I just can't see the proper prices yet? Because Alice is still for 25$ for me.

[Fredie007]

They start this sunday and it'll be another game discounted every day. All details here (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=303554).

[qizarate]

Here are Amazon Digital Download's deals for next week. They're pretty damn good, but they're rather ridiculous if you have a $5 promo code from last year. 1/15 – Alice Madness Returns: $7.49 - $2.49 with $5 Holiday Promo Code1/16 – Dragon Age Origins Ultimate Edition + Dragon Age 2 Bundle: $11.99 - $6.99 with $5 Holiday Promo Code1/17 – Medal of Honor - $6.99 - $1.99 with $5 holiday promo code1/18 – Battlefield Bad Company 2 - $6.99 - $1.99 with $5 holiday promo code1/19 – Dead Space 2 - $6.99 - $1.99 with $5 holiday promo code1/20 – Bulletstorm - $6.99 - $1.99 with $5 holiday promo code1/21 – Crysis 2 - $9.99 - $4.99 with $5 holiday promo codeI plan on picking up Crysis 2 for $5 myself, though I wish I had more coupons to spend on some of those other deals.EDIT: WHY DOES NEW LINE NOT WORK? WHY?

I'm impressed by your ability to subtract 5 from lots of different numbers. Incidentally, since these are the forums of a UK-based website, does it make sense to include the US only deals? Would a separate thread perhaps be appropriate? I would note that US-only deals never make it into the weekly bargain bucket on RPS.

[Ignorant Texan]

...Incidentally, since these are the forums of a UK-based website, does it make sense to include the US only deals? Would a separate thread perhaps be appropriate? I would note that US-only deals never make it into the weekly bargain bucket on RPS.

While it's nice to see some British chauvinism, I can think of two reasons why. Many readers of RPS are in the US, and the bargain bucket has(and I presume will continue) to list US-only deals, just as Lewis has listed UK-only deals. When regional deals are listed, they are always noted as such. FWIW, I purchased DoW2(both vanilla and Chaos Rising) from THQ's site after just such a mention of a US-only discount in the Bargain Bucket.

[Scotto]

I live in the UK. Can I take advantage of these amazon offers as they are not on the UK website.

[DrBee]

Yeah, you just need a valid US address and a credit card.

[Scotto]

Can I not use a made up address? Obviously I have a method of payment.

[DrBee]

I don't think so. Just google for an address. It's easy.

[Scotto]

Can I have you address?

[Scotto]

Hey Miker (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/member.php?15-Miker) do you have a code for civ 5/4?

[qizarate]

While it's nice to see some British chauvinism, I can think of two reasons why. Many readers of RPS are in the US, and the bargain bucket has(and I presume will continue) to list US-only deals, just as Lewis has listed UK-only deals. When regional deals are listed, they are always noted as such. FWIW, I purchased DoW2(both vanilla and Chaos Rising) from THQ's site after just such a mention of a US-only discount in the Bargain Bucket.

Point well made, and happily conceded. It strikes me now that you're right about US only deals appearing in bargain bucket, contrary to my claim. In my defense, i think i was just unconsciously airing my frustration at not being able to take advantage of these deals.

[Rauten]

Also, there are ways to circumvent that US-Only policy of Amazon; it's actually ridiculously easy. I've bought from them several times, and I'm from bloody Spain.

[vinraith]

Speaking as the person that started the original PC bargains thread a forum software-switch or two ago, and as a US RPSer, I definitely think US only deals are appropriate (as are any other region restricted deals). Mark them as such, of course, if you know they're region-restricted (though sometimes it's hard to tell).

[Christian]

Also, there are ways to circumvent that US-Only policy of Amazon; it's actually ridiculously easy. I've bought from them several times, and I'm from bloody Spain.

FWIW, I even wouldn't mind seeing international deals in general in here after having pre-ordered BF3 for 1000-something Rupees (about 12 €) from the Origin-store in India. We'd just have to make sure that they really work for foreigners (like the Amazon-deals) and the publisher doesn't have his ban-hammer ready..

p.s.:
where did you get those holiday-coupons? I guess they're directly from Amazon, so they sent them out to US-customers?

[Rauten]

They were given to people who bought from Amazon during their Xmas sale; For certain games, at least.

[Ignorant Texan]

p.s.:
where did you get those holiday-coupons? I guess they're directly from Amazon, so they sent them out to US-customers?

Every DD game ordered from Amazon-US during December had a $5-off code emailed after the order confirmation email. Since their DD service only allows you to order one game/DLC at a time, some of us received multiple codes(While I would have ordered Shogun2 and the three DLCs in one order, I had to place 4 orders to get them. Therefore, I received 4 codes).

UPDATE: Damn, Rauten ninja'ed me.

[Miker]

@qizarate

UK folk have purchased games from Amazon DD before, no reason not to post it here. Also could have done without the poke at my arithmetic seeing as I copied and pasted, but that's neither here nor there.

@Scotto

I only have one, I'm afraid, and I'm going to use it for Crysis 2. Sorry :(

And I figured out why I couldn't do new lines -- I had javascript disabled on RPS (to prevent the social networking widgets from loading) and it was preventing the forum software from loading properly.

[Giaddon]

Scotto, check your PMs.

[Rauten]

Amazon is really out to get Steam, it seems:
Dead Space 2 for 5$, COUPONS CAN BE APPLIED. (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40560ead-Space-21/dp/B004JHYZKQ/ref=br_lf_m_1000728511_1_20_img?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&pf_rd_p=1343063942&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_i=1000728511&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=19DT037CVZ2BKF6YZN41)

So basically, if you have a coupon, free DS2.

[Roufuss]

Edit: Actually, I don't need a coupon... I forgot I actually own Dead Space 2 on PS3.

Don't want to take one from someone who is going to play it.

[Althea]

Batman: Arkham City (http://impulsedriven.com/batmanac) is £16.30 on Impulse. Not its lowest price, not the best store to buy from, but still a relatively good deal.

[sabrage]

Amazon is really out to get Steam, it seems:
Dead Space 2 for 5$, COUPONS CAN BE APPLIED. (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40560ead-Space-21/dp/B004JHYZKQ/ref=br_lf_m_1000728511_1_20_img?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&pf_rd_p=1343063942&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_i=1000728511&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=19DT037CVZ2BKF6YZN41)

So basically, if you have a coupon, free DS2.
Can't beat free, but does anyone know if this requires Origin?

(Also, does Dead Space 2 support DX11?)

[The JG Man]

DS2 doesn't require Origin, but you can use the serial key to add it to Origin so you would technically own it twice (which is also a good thing). I don't believe it does support DX11 though.

[sabrage]

Thanks. I always have the damnedest time trying to figure out which games take advantage of DX10/11, as most don't. In DS2's official requirements, only DX9 is mentioned so we'll go with that.

[Heliocentric]

Deadspace, Deadspace, Deadspaaaaace [/space sphere ]
I am at peace with the M&KB controls being tosh and I've put it back on my play list for the year, my query follows. After finishing most games playing it again is the last thing on my mind. Maybe a newgame+ if it feels like legitimately fresh and not just "everyone has double hp, enjoy".

Does dead space 2 feel like a continuation of the same story or just the same formula rehashed?

[sabrage]

I am at peace with the M&KB controls being tosh and I've put it back on my play list for the year, my query follows. After finishing most games playing it again is the last thing on my mind. Maybe a newgame+ if it feels like legitimately fresh and not just "everyone has double hp, enjoy".
Play it on the hardest difficulty. It's actually almost exactly as you described, but the fact that enemies are so much harder to kill makes every shot count and the whole game more tense. I was never legitimately scared when I played through on normal, but every encounter felt like a brush with death on Insane. It's been quite some time, but I actually thought the M+KB controls were decent.

[airtekh]

Does dead space 2 feel like a continuation of the same story or just the same formula rehashed?

Honestly, it is more of the same, which was fine by me.

There are a few new weapons and enemy types which change things up slightly. The new zero G mechanics are even better than the first game though.

I agree with sabrage on the M+KB controls, they work perfectly in Dead Space 2.

There is still a problem with the mouse in Dead Space 1 though, which can be alleviated if you have a mouse with adjustable DPI.

[sabrage]

I agree with sabrage on the M+KB controls, they work perfectly in Dead Space 2.

I actually haven't played DS2, I was speaking from experience on the first one (and I've heard from friends that the second is much the same.) It's the difference between Dead Space being an action game and the horror game it was intended to be.

[Roufuss]

It's the difference between Dead Space being an action game and the horror game it was intended to be.

Unfortunately, if I remember right, the hardest difficulty is locked until you beat the entire game once on a lower difficulty so you're forced to play it as an action game.

I hate games that do that; if I want to choose the hardest difficulty from the outset, let me. I found Dead Space 1 to be entirely too easy on the hardest difficulty available to me at the time (I think it was Hard) and I don't replay linear games again as soon as I beat them.

Alan Wake did this same thing -- it locked the hardest difficulty, making you play on the lesser ones which were all too easy.

[Giaddon]

Does dead space 2 feel like a continuation of the same story or just the same formula rehashed?

To me it felt like a rehash, which was one of my problems with the game. Isaac talks now, but he's a very flat character: he screams and curses and says "hello!" to people he meets. He's still haunted by {spoiler}. The Unitologists are up to their old tricks. There's an ominous stone. The plot gave me zero enjoyment (actually, negative enjoyment, when I factor in the awful ending.)

[Nova]

Not only the plot got even worse towards the end. The devs also lost the understanding of their own game. Navigating the slow moving Isaac through dozens of necromorphs, getting hit -> char stumble animation -> getting attacked by the next -> quick time event, etc.
Dead Space 2 wasn't very good to begin with, but towards the end it was outright annoying.

[Heliocentric]

I actually haven't played DS2, I was speaking from experience on the first one (and I've heard from friends that the second is much the same.) It's the difference between Dead Space being an action game and the horror game it was intended to be.

Maybe this is my "gamer entitlement" speaking, but being unable to aim at things because of super frustratingly inconsistent mouse acceleration was not 'horror' it was 'annoying'.
I have become spoiled, I've picked up enough skill in both RTS and FPS that I often rub up against the scripting, only "unfair"games like stalker often stop me in my tracks.
I have grown to despise harder difficulties which just make everything a bullet sponge with sniper accuracy.

[sabrage]

Maybe this is my "gamer entitlement" speaking, but being unable to aim at things because of super frustratingly inconsistent mouse acceleration was not 'horror' it was 'annoying'.
That's definitely not what I was referring to. I had no trouble with the controls. I'm not talking Resident Evil tank control-style of horror; it's genuinely a difficult and tense game. If you want to breeze through it with challenge, that's your prerogative, but I notice that most of the people complaining about the atmosphere aren't playing on the hardest difficulty.

[Heliocentric]

but I notice that most of the people complaining about the atmosphere aren't playing on the hardest difficulty.
It was like steering a 2000 tonne ferry, I ended up on an easier difficulty and probably ruined my exploration experience. I cant never see this game for the first time again after all.

[Christian]

[...] but I notice that most of the people complaining about the atmosphere aren't playing on the hardest difficulty.

I don't know if we have the same definition of "atmosphere". For me, it's more (or maybe more accurate: deeper) than dying a lot due to bad (or to clarify: just give the enemies more health) game-design. I have nothing against hard games, I love the Serious Sam-series for example; and just breezing through a game might be fun and entertaining, but surely doesn't add to atmosphere.
But if it just gets tedious and frustrating, that has nothing to do with atmosphere. Trine (2) both did a quite nice job of building up atmosphere without getting frustrating. To some extend, Metro managed as well.
Doom 3 had the same problem..they had a nice setup, but there was a point in the game where I just thought "ok, I get it. Don't just throw more stupid monsters at me, just make an effort" and quit.
Not that I didn't appreciate the atmosphere in Dead Space, it was good enough and felt claustrophobic enough and was fun and entertaining for the first few hours (after using the old 'turn off vsnc'-trick, I had no problems with the controls either). But that doesn't have anything to do with difficulty. But maybe I'm just getting too old for this and realize that dying in a game isn't that bad but just belongs to playing.

tl;dr:
Atmosphere doesn't come from higher difficulty, it's by design.
Also, I didn't finish DS because I got bored about halfway. Is it worth pushing through? And I like free (or cheap) games as much as anyone..but would DS2 really make a difference here?

(also, I just can't stop spawning new mindthreads when writing about certain topics. damn.)

[edit]
oh, and btw.: Frozen Synapse does a terrible job building an atmosphere. But it's still a damn hard (and fun!) game.

[sabrage]

Dead Space has always been something of a divisive game. I, for one, loved it, but I also loved Resident Evil 4 so the controls weren't anything new to me. The sound design is second only to Amnesia, and that's what really made the game and the encounters for me.

[Rauten]

Dead Space, to me, is an action game. I'll never understand how people can find them to be the least scary or atmospheric.

[Duckee]

I always draw comparisons between Doom 3 and Dead Space. Both are quite atmospheric with a lot of back-story put into them which are not necessary for the main plots (texts contained in random PDAs, terminals, notebooks etc). A wide sound scape also adds to this.

I do agree with the harder difficulty statement as well, since health is finite in Dead Space people will be a great deal more cautionary when dealing with monsters which they might not be at lower difficulties. This in turn, adds some extra tension and possibly even suspense going forward.

EDIT: Oh crap, just saw it was the pc bargain thread. I thought this was the what are you playing thread. Damn all you derailers!

[Pertusaria]

Steam has added the Blackwell games (Wadjet Eye point-and-click series) and has all of them at 25% off at the moment. You can buy the first three individually if you want, which I don't seem to be able to do on Wadjet Eye's site, although I could be wrong. You can also buy a bundle including the most recent game for cheaper than the publisher's bundle which doesn't. (At least, it works out cheaper for me after Wadjet Eye applies VAT.)

[Vague-rant]

Arg. Really wanted to buy Blackwell Deception directly from Wadjet, but its about 3 quid more expensive. I really don't understand why developers do that.

[qizarate]

If you're intent on showing your support for the developer, should £3 really be such a huge obstacle? Think of it as a charitable donation.

[elephant god]

If anyone has a steam coupon for edge, you can PM me :) I have valve coupons ^^

see ya!

[Corpekata]

Arg. Really wanted to buy Blackwell Deception directly from Wadjet, but its about 3 quid more expensive. I really don't understand why developers do that.

Sometimes they had to. It seems like a lot of games that are rejected by Valve and then reappear later often have had fairly high prices because they serve a niche (see the Spiderweb Software games). So I imagine the price point is a matter of contention in whether Valve accepts it or not.

[MaxNormal]

Last day of sale for indie game Swift Stitch $1 USD:
http://swiftstitch.sophiehoulden.com/

I just played the demo in my browser (unity player): http://swiftstitch.sophiehoulden.com/demo/
and it seems pretty fun - enough to get me spending $1 anyway.

rock paper shotgun coverage here:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/201...ne-swiftstitch/ (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/12/a-switch-in-time-saves-line-swiftstitch/)

[Revisor]

Aand here comes Amazon (Download only, US address needed):

Alice: Madness Returns - $7.49
http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40696ess-Returns1-Alice/dp/B0053YQ8E0/

Dead Space 2 - $5.00
http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40560ead-Space-21/dp/B004JHYZKQ/

[mzlapq]

From pcdddeals.com, Dragon Age Ultimate + Dragon Age 2 for $12
http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40899on-Age-Pack7/dp/B006P28VBM/
The page does not say that the deal is US only (although they are separately).
Anyone has a coupon to spare so I can verify (or just want to help me get an even better deal)?

[Ignorant Texan]

From pcdddeals.com, Dragon Age Ultimate + Dragon Age 2 for $12
http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40899on-Age-Pack7/dp/B006P28VBM/
The page does not say that the deal is US only (although they are separately).
Anyone has a coupon to spare so I can verify (or just want to help me get an even better deal)?

The code is US only. I ordered A:MR yesterday, and the order page states that a US IP and a US mailing address are required. There are ways around this.

[Scotto]

I've been very fortunate in having been sent one once already but does anyone have a $5 off code for amazon that they will not use that I could have? PM me.

[The JG Man]

FlatOut series is mid-week madness (pack and individual games 66% off) on Steam. I haven't played the others, but FlatOut Ultimate Carnage is good fun. If you're looking for a good arcadey racer, good money on that. You may want to avoid 3, which was recently released. It got...less than stellar reviews.

Daily is the Painkiller franchise. 75% off all, save an additional 33% in total after individual sales if you get the pack. I hear Black is the one to get.

[Kodeen]

Daily is the Painkiller franchise. 75% off all, save an additional 33% in total after individual sales if you get the pack. I hear Black is the one to get.

Black is a pretty good shooter, though admittedly I did get bored around world 2. I should give it another shot at some point. For those who get it, I would advise turning the combat music off, it's a very generic metal guitar riff, and the ambient sounds that are going on are more atmospheric anyway.

[somini]

FlatOut series is mid-week madness (pack and individual games 66% off) on Steam. I haven't played the others, but FlatOut Ultimate Carnage is good fun. If you're looking for a good arcadey racer, good money on that. You may want to avoid 3, which was recently released. It got...less than stellar reviews.

Daily is the Painkiller franchise. 75% off all, save an additional 33% in total after individual sales if you get the pack. I hear Black is the one to get.
I found Flatout 1 awesome, so are 2 and UC in the same vein? What are the "proper" ones?

[Althea]

I found Flatout 1 awesome, so are 2 and UC in the same vein? What are the "proper" ones?
I believe UC is an uber-enhanced 2. It's the one I have, and despite the slightly crappy menu, soundtrack and GfWL integration, it's a game I've put some hours into it and enjoyed quite a bit, although it's not perfect. I would highly recommend using a controller with it, though, as the keyboard controls are cramp-inducing. With the controller, though, it's smooth and seamless.

If you take your racing games seriously, it's not worth it. Stick to GRID.

[nsane]

Someone has a spare 1C Company 50% coupon for steam? I want to buy Space Rangers 2.

[Oshada]

This is a quite brilliant deal: http://www.getgamesgo.com/product/far-cry-1-2

[Heliocentric]

This is a quite brilliant deal: http://www.getgamesgo.com/product/far-cry-1-2

its been cheaper £4.99 for both far cry titles. btw

[Oshada]

its been cheaper £4.99 for both far cry titles. btw $6.25 is cheaper than £4.99, unless I'm missing something?

[Althea]

$6.25 is cheaper than £4.99, unless I'm missing something?
The price comes up as £4.99 in the UK. It's not a bad deal, but I'm trying to remember if the pack has been cheaper on Steam or not.

[Oshada]

Ah right, regional pricing completely escaped my mind. I think the games were cheaper separately during the Steam Christmas sale.

[Kodeen]

I really hope today's daily deal on Steam was chosen before the whole Italian cruise ship thing.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/48800/

[The JG Man]

Sonic Generations - 50% off on Steam. I'm not entirely sure why it is, but it is. Get it. It's fantastic.

[Althea]

Sonic Generations - 50% off on Steam. I'm not entirely sure why it is, but it is. Get it. It's fantastic.
'cos Sonic CD, 4 Ep 1 and the Generations DLC went up today ;)

What's the verdict on All-Stars Racing? I got the iOS version but I hate gyro-controls.

[Rauten]

It's a very good kart-racing game, but the port is shoddy as all hell; stuttering in certain stages, controller issues and the online mode was completely removed, there's not even a LAN option with which to use Hamachi.

[sopabuena]

I know this a PC gaming forum, but anyone had the chance to try Sonic CD on iOS? I might get it, but I have to decide wich version yet.
Also I take it Generations is worth $15, right?

[The JG Man]

Generations is worth it at full price if you like the franchise, if not a little more.

As for CD, I actually did try it out on iOS. It lacks some of the features of the 'HD' versions, but the core game is there and runs well. My only problem with it is the controls; the lack of tactile feedback is sorely missing and jumps I can easily make on a 360 controller I struggle with on my iPod Touch. It's definitely, definitely, playable and as a game for on the go, it makes sense but if you were looking for one version in particular, I'd go for the one with real buttons.

Medal of Hono(u)r (2010) is today's daily deal at 75% off. I haven't played it, but many seem to like it's fairly authentic portrayal of military action in its campaign. It's MP is not quite as liked.

[hariseldon]

Note to anyone buying Sonic Generations, there seems to be a real problem with sega games and NVidia Optimus (so any modern laptop with an NVidia card pretty much) in that one has to jump through some pretty nasty hoops to play the game on the NVidia card (and internal graphics are usually a bit too shit).

[Revisor]

Medal of Honor was in the end a good shooter - it gets better and pretty intense in later parts. You just have to ignore the idiotic patriotism and the black-and-white distinction on US=good, them=bad terrorists.

Also the MP was good, having been designed by DICE as a simpler and more close-quarters variation of BFBC2.

But: You can get it for a better price if you wait. It goes on a better sale regularly (Amazon, GG)

[Revisor]

Also today on Amazon - Bulletstorm for $6.99
http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40582Bulletstorm1-Bulletstorm-Download/dp/B004MPRFF2/

I can't say anything about the game because my two attempts to install it failed due to GFWL.
Actually that says something.

[Rauten]

Indeed Amazon has done it again, probably yet another move in their anti-Steam campaign: MOH for 5$, free with a coupon (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40465imited-Edition-Download/dp/B00477471U/ref=br_lf_m_1000728511_1_3_ttl?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&pf_rd_p=1343705622&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_i=1000728511&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=06D5QWGQ65AWRD03V26M)

[Revisor]

For that price I can only recommend it.

[bongozz]

MOH, currently not available.

[Moraven]

Arkham City 50% on Impulse, least for NA:
http://impulsedriven.com/batmanac

[MD!]

Sonic Generations - 50% off on Steam. I'm not entirely sure why it is, but it is. Get it. It's fantastic.


I'm not sure what the prices are like elsewhere in the world, but for Australians it's still $10 cheaper at Get Games (http://www.getgamesgo.com/product/sonic-generations).

[JamesG]

I'd been meaning to play some of the ME2 DLC prior to the release of the third game, and today noticed that the DLC has been effectively reduced (may be UK only):

Now, while Bioware take the silly position of selling their DLC in 'bioware points' they at least allow you to buy points in chunks that correspond to most of the piece of DLC. This has resulted in the odd situation where they clearly wanted to reduce the price of the Cerberus network DLC, but did so by reducing the cost of the corresponding number of points, rather than the points cost of the DLC itself. Thus you can get 1200 points for the usual cost of 560 (£4.33). Of course, this means that if you're not buying the Cerberus network you'll end up with an odd number of points left over at the end, but assuming your buying more than a single piece of 560pt DLC, it should work out cheaper.

Note: The 1200 points pack does not show up is you go through the 'add bioware points' menu option. Instead try and buy the ME2 DLC you want, and you should get the option to add more points. Select this, and the ME skinned points interface should show the cheap 1200 points option.

[Casimir Effect]

I'd been meaning to play some of the ME2 DLC prior to the release of the third game, and today noticed that the DLC has been effectively reduced (may be UK only):

Now, while Bioware take the silly position of selling their DLC in 'bioware points' they at least allow you to buy points in chunks that correspond to most of the piece of DLC. This has resulted in the odd situation where they clearly wanted to reduce the price of the Cerberus network DLC, but did so by reducing the cost of the corresponding number of points, rather than the points cost of the DLC itself. Thus you can get 1200 points for the usual cost of 560 (£4.33). Of course, this means that if you're not buying the Cerberus network you'll end up with an odd number of points left over at the end, but assuming your buying more than a single piece of 560pt DLC, it should work out cheaper.

Note: The 1200 points pack does not show up is you go through the 'add bioware points' menu option. Instead try and buy the ME2 DLC you want, and you should get the option to add more points. Select this, and the ME skinned points interface should show the cheap 1200 points option.
I love you.
I've been waiting for something resembling an offer on the ME2/Bioware DLC for ages and this is better than 50% off. You are both a gentleman and a scholar, sir.

[Revisor]

I'd been meaning to play some of the ME2 DLC prior to the release of the third game, and today noticed that the DLC has been effectively reduced (may be UK only)

Unfortunately still not worth it for me - a story DLC with this discount costs 3 - 5 dollars each and there are 6 of them. I would like to play the "complete" ME2 but no way I'm buying it at such inconvenience (Bioware store I want to have nothing to do with) for this price.

[sabrage]

Mass Effect 2 etc
Where the hell do you even buy ME2 DLC anyways? Links are appreciated (as is the tip.)

[Althea]

Unfortunately still not worth it for me - a story DLC with this discount costs 3 - 5 dollars each and there are 6 of them. I would like to play the "complete" ME2 but no way I'm buying it at such inconvenience (Bioware store I want to have nothing to do with) for this price.
6? Four - Kasumi (more squad member than story), Overlord, Shadow Broker, Arrival. Genesis is only really worth it if you want to bypass playing ME1 again or you've not actually played ME1, and isn't exactly story DLC as it adds nothing to the game itself.

Sabrage - BioWare Social Network. Link here to ME2 store page (http://social.bioware.com/page/me2-dlc).

[Revisor]

You're right, it's 4. 4 DLCs for 2480 points, that's 14.5 dollars after discount, plus the inconvenience of the Bioware store and DLCs themselves.

Edit: Also if you buy 2x 1200 points, you are short 80 points to buy the fourth story DLC.
Since you have to buy points in bulk, you'll have a lot of spare points.
The discount is thus effectively between 14.5 and 20 dollars for the 4 DLCs.

Nope, still not worth it for me.

[Heliocentric]

The mass effect 1 dlc pinnacle station is sold in the EA store, the other dlc an asteroid one "bring down the sky" is free but you have to mess about to install it.

[Phinor]

Thanks for pointing out this offer. I already had the highest rated ME2 DLCs but decided to stock up on BW points for ME3 (and future Bioware games). I generally hate DLC but if the price-content(amount+quality) ratio is good enough, I'm there. 1200 points for 4.88€ means around 2.5 euros per 560 point 2-4 hour DLC. Good enough for me. And as you said, these things never go on sale and Bioware store is the only place to buy Bioware DLC (exception being ME1) so stocking up is probably the reasonable thing to do if you are planning to buy some of their DLC anyway at some point.

[Althea]

The mass effect 1 dlc pinnacle station is sold in the EA store, the other dlc an asteroid one "bring down the sky" is free but you have to mess about to install it.
No, you don't. Download the installer, use the skeleton code and bam, DLC installed.

[Heliocentric]

No, you don't. Download the installer, use the skeleton code and bam, DLC installed.

For bring down the sky? I admit it was a long time since I installed it.

[Althea]

For bring down the sky? I admit it was a long time since I installed it.
Yes. (http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/131/index/1335293/17#8902227)

10charlimit

[JamesG]

Edit: Also if you buy 2x 1200 points, you are short 80 points to buy the fourth story DLC.
Since you have to buy points in bulk, you'll have a lot of spare points.
The discount is thus effectively between 14.5 and 20 dollars for the 4 DLCs.


Yes, this is annoying. You do have the chance to pickup 400 points for £3.10 if you want to keep the cost down, either click 'edit' after selecting payment type, or use the 'add bioware points' option in the profile menu. I just decided to pay the extra £1.23 and give me some spare points for ME3 DLC. If they keep the same price structure, that should cover me for two small story DLCs.

[Althea]

Yes, this is annoying. You do have the chance to pickup 400 points for £3.10 if you want to keep the cost down, either click 'edit' after selecting payment type, or use the 'add bioware points' option in the profile menu. I just decided to pay the extra £1.23 and give me some spare points for ME3 DLC. If they keep the same price structure, that should cover me for two small story DLCs.
The pricing structure reflects that of the TUHREE SIXX TAY, so I can't see it changing :)

[The JG Man]

Binding of Isaac is Steam's daily - 50% down to £2.

In short, buy it.

In long, you should really buy it, very right now.

[Revisor]

2 Amazon deals:
Burnout Paradise: The Ultimate Box - $4.99
http://www.amazon.com/Burnout-Paradise-Ultimate-Box-Download/dp/B0047O2Q0M/

Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit - $7.99
http://www.amazon.com/Need-Speed-Hot-Pursuit-Download/dp/B004E10R4K/

[Smashbox]

Both of those racing games are by Criterion, and are very good. I think I might like Burnout Paradise better (once you turn off the god-awful radio... actually that goes for both games) but they're both completely worthwhile at those prices.

[Roufuss]

Just know that Burnout Paradise is missing DLC (like Big Surf Island, which is rather quite good) on the PC version.

[Revisor]

But that's PC wide, not Amazon only, right?

[Jams O'Donnell]

Right. Right!

[Arona Daal]

The new Indie Royale Bundle is out.

The "Serious Sam Pack"

http://www.indieroyale.com/

[pmh]

50% off Skyrim at Greenman Gaming: http://www.greenmangaming.com/promo/skyrim/

[Smashbox]

Warning to Americans: My bank took the liberty of canceling my card after shopping at Green Man Gaming. Great deal though!

[Doodier]

Could you please tell me how much is the Skyrim? Here, in Czech Republic, I can't see the price :/

[luker161]

Its not on sale anymore there. back up to 53.97 in the states

[Revisor]

Could you please tell me how much is the Skyrim? Here, in Czech Republic, I can't see the price :/
No downloadable Bethesda Games for Central and Eastern Europe unfortunately, thanks to a Bethesda's exclusive distributor deal with 1C.

[Bobtree]

Warning to Americans: My bank took the liberty of canceling my card after shopping at Green Man Gaming. Great deal though!

I ran into something similar, and it turned out that my bank's CC processor (another company) apparently refuses all UK-based transactions no matter what, and with no exceptions, supposedly to prevent fraud. That was when trying to pre-order Dead Island for $34 the weekend before release with a debit Mastercard. I used a Visa from a different bank and had no issues.

[Similar]

Space Pirates and Zombies is one of the weekend deals on Steam. 60% off (I think it was 75% off during the winter sale).
I played it for about a hundred hours in a week, and am thinking of replaying it, so I would recommend it.

[Smashbox]

I second that, it's a great game.

[Roufuss]

Was hoping the weekend deal might have been prompted by the new update, but nope, its still in testing.

Definitely worth the $4, excellent game.

[vinraith]

Space Pirates and Zombies is one of the weekend deals on Steam. 60% off (I think it was 75% off during the winter sale).
I played it for about a hundred hours in a week, and am thinking of replaying it, so I would recommend it.

I would strongly recommend that anyone interested play the demo first. It's extremely arcadey, and despite the visual resemblance is definitely not Star Control/Starflight. That's not to say it is or isn't a good game, but it may be different than what you're expecting.

[Heliocentric]

I would strongly recommend that anyone interested play the demo first. It's extremely arcadey, and despite the visual resemblance is definitely not Star Control/Starflight.

Yes, its more "LASERS PEW PRE" than "Space epic"

[Pertusaria]

Victoria II is 5 pounds / 6 euro on Gamersgate; compare to 20 euro on Steam. I suspect this is a weekend deal, but I can't find the expiry date on it anywhere.

I haven't tried Victoria II, but judging by the accumulated wisdom of the RPS forums it's less user-friendly than EU3, so I think I'll pass on it for now.

Edit: Bah, apparently 6.78 euro - don't know why they weren't showing me the euro price last night.

[Heliocentric]

http://impulsedriven.com/dndmaster
Lots of games I really enjoyed, and then it's 2D so mods HD them up nicely so you only really need to worry about the gameplay.

Baldur’s Gate, Baldur’s Gate: Tales
of the Sword Coast, Baldur’s Gate
II: Shadows of Amn, Baldur’s Gate
II: Throne of Bhaal, Icewind Dale,
Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter,
Icewind Dale: Trials of the
Luremaster, Icewind Dale II,
Planescape: Torment & The Temple
of Elemental Evil,

£6.38

[vinraith]

Victoria II is 5 pounds / 6 euro on Gamersgate; compare to 20 euro on Steam. I suspect this is a weekend deal, but I can't find the expiry date on it anywhere.

I haven't tried Victoria II, but judging by the accumulated wisdom of the RPS forums it's less user-friendly than EU3, so I think I'll pass on it for now.

They're releasing a fairly excellent sounding expansion for it very soon.

[Revisor]

Space Trader - $2.50
http://www.beamdog.com/products/space-trader
An indie game from 2008 in Quake3 engine
A mix of space trading and FPS

Looks strangely compelling to me. Anyone played it?
Here is a gameplay video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkuEHUKfEEs

[Colonel J]

I received a mail-out saying there's a couple of deals coming up on Get Games Go (http://www.getgamesgo.com/) starting at 6pm GMT today:

Serious Sam 3 BFE 66% off = £9.99. 24 hours only. Which I think is the cheapest it's been.
And yet another Deus Ex HR 70% off deal = £8.99. 48 hours only. Not sure if the DLC is also on sale, check back after 6 tonight.

Edit: SS3 £10.19. DX:HR Missing Link is also 70% off.

[Wolfenswan]

GOG has 50% off of Strategy First games which too many gems to list them all.

http://www.gog.com/en/promo/all_strategy_first

[Revisor]

Looks like some people bought Serious Sam 3 on GetGamesGo and got 2nd Encounter instead. Oops :)
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2506412

That and the dollar/euro parity persuaded me to wait for a better deal.

[sabrage]

Looks like some people bought Serious Sam 3 on GetGamesGo and got 2nd Encounter instead. Oops :)
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2506412

That and the dollar/euro parity persuaded me to wait for a better deal.
I got mine from GetGames for about that price several weeks ago; worked just fine.

[luker161]

Anyone know if SS3 is for steam or not

[sabrage]

Anyone know if SS3 is for steam or not
It is. 10char

[Pertusaria]

Vinraith: You mean A House Divided? I noticed that, and will be interested to see how it turns out.

[vinraith]

Vinraith: You mean A House Divided? I noticed that, and will be interested to see how it turns out.

Yup. No idea how it'll turn out, but historically expansion packs have had a tendency to radically improve Paradox games.

[CrinnyCow]

How do you guys feel about the DCS Blackhawk game on the deal of the day? All I have is a Thrustmaster Hotas (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879337003). Is this sufficient to play? Or should I just wait to get Take On Helicopters when it goes on sale?

[Revisor]

Risen - $5.99
Amazon Download
http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Silver-40781Risen4-Risen-Download/dp/B005JF4MTQ/

[Kodeen]

GOG has 50% off of Strategy First games which too many gems to list them all. http://www.gog.com/en/promo/all_strategy_first I've been thinking about getting a Diablo-like recently? Is Sacred Gold any good?

[Corpekata]

I've been thinking about getting a Diablo-like recently? Is Sacred Gold any good?


A bit dated and doesn't always run that well (engine is not that well made, even with GoG's fixes), but it's pretty fun, scratches that itch fairly well.

[Arona Daal]

Sacred gold cheaper on getgames
http://www.getgamesgo.com/product/sacred-gold-edition


(http://www.getgamesgo.com/product/sacred-gold-edition)
(http://www.getgamesgo.com/product/stalingrad)
Question about Stalingrad:
Is this a Mix between a sudden Strike mod and a FPS?
The Screenshots say so.Has anyone played this?
http://www.getgamesgo.com/product/stalingrad

[Althea]

I know Spellforce has been discussed a little recently on this site, so I thought I'd point out that Spellforce Universe is £4.49 (http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DDB-SFU/spellforce-universe-bundle) on GamersGate right now. That's both games and all expansions, for a fraction of the price GOG wish to charge you.

They're all also available separately at lower prices.

[Heliocentric]

This is a public service announcement by the Heliocentric commission for bad game avoidance. .

Do not play Spellforce 1. (no idea about #2)

Thank you, godspeed and good health.

This was a public service announcement by the Heliocentric commission for bad game avoidance.

[Althea]

On the contrary, I'd say play it. It's been years since I have, but I seem to remember enjoying it.

Mind you, I liked Driv3r so that's probably enough said.

[Vexing Vision]

Spellforce 1 was a great game, but Spellforce 2 expands on everything that did make Spellforce 1 a great game, and removed the annoying things. It did have the better backgroundmusic though.

[Althea]

It did have the better backgroundmusic though.
Dynamedion <3

[Casimir Effect]

Spellforce 1 was a great game, but Spellforce 2 expands on everything that did make Spellforce 1 a great game, and removed the annoying things. It did have the better backgroundmusic though.
Agreed. They're some great games if you can get into them.

[DrBee]

Play.com has Battlefield 3 for Euro 24.49

http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/25413462/Battlefield-3/Product.html?searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchstring=battlefield+3&urlrefer=search

That's the best price I have seen so far.

[Heliocentric]

Agreed. They're some great games if you can get into them.

I finished Spellforce, and wished I hadn't. Maybe it was the timed spawns of enemies, or the "better xp on higher difficulties"(on a decay curved per unit type) making hard the easier way to play until you wanted to downshift to easy for the endgame, the towers which can only be attacked in melee, the half used thread of plot, the way resources run to a dribble but the flow of enemies never let's up, "stealth mission" bits where you need to catch scouts, activating a base wakes up enemies, but running around solo broke balance and scripting. So you need to attract fire with your hero building up resources slowly but that amounts to having him sit at the gates to your town(afk if you like) .

It is an utterly mess, I am challenge anyone who likes it to replay it, those are rose tintedly spectacles. I'm sure playing it pvp sorted out many of its issues but single player was genuinely badly made.

[Ignorant Texan]

Risen 5.99USD on Amazon US today.

http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Silver-40781Risen4-Risen-Download/dp/B005JF4MTQ/ref=amb_link_359840422_11?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=1D86ZTJWNBXMCC9SN5ER&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1345016582&pf_rd_i

[Casimir Effect]

It is an utterly mess, I am challenge anyone who likes it to replay it, those are rose tintedly spectacles. I'm sure playing it pvp sorted out many of its issues but single player was genuinely badly made.
I actually replayed it about a year ago, maybe more. went through SF2 then SF1:TOoD and half of SF1:BoW before getting burned out on the game type. Had a great time playing the original games again even if I find they suffer when placed next to the sequel.

The game does have some issues but:
The scout thing is irritating but you are given warning when one sees you and they only ever come from the same direction. Also, you usually get plenty of time to explore the map before activating your base. I would also tend to use this time to crush a few enemy camps using my character and any Rune companions - yes this gaming the system a bit but I felt it necessary. The sequel removes the scout mechanic and makes the enemy waves fairer.
The sequel introduces catapults and various other siege units which can take down towers at range, but otherwise they still need to be attacked in melee. This does kind of make sense as arrows alone wouldn't do much to fortifications, and also makes towers very useful.
It's disappointing the plot isn't more concentrated but that's part for the course for RTS games. I enjoyed it for the fantasy rubbish it was that allowed for diverse enemies, landscapes and magic.
As for the general difficulty of the game I found it acceptable. The resources you get are as much as you need; early on in base developement you have your avatar and often some Rune companions to hold the line; and I never felt my character under- or over- levelled.

The sequel fixes most if not all the problems. For example, the maps tend to have more thought put into what you have to do rather than 'You Here, Enemy Here, Portal Here, Fight!'. They mix more RPG levels into the game, ie. levels where you just have your avatar and companions (and maybe some provided troops) to complete the objectives. I also believe you no longer receive XP through killing things - just from completing quests - so levelling is sorted.

Rather than the rose-tinted glasses effect happening I'd say it's more a willingness to overlook flaws in order to appreciate a unique game. I can't think of anything else like the Spellforce games with their mix of high fantasy, RPG, RTS and great art/music.

[Kodeen]

I tried Spellforce 1 but got annoyed and quit when a siege on a town I was in started in real time during a cutscene. I was loosing troops and this guy was blabbing on about how a siege was about to start.

That doesn't happen in Spellforce 2, does it?

[renhoelder]

Velvet Assassin on amazon.com for $6.03

http://www.amazon.com/Southpeak-40343elvet-Assassin-Velvet-Download/dp/B003RWSIIY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1327940225&sr=8-2

[Ignorant Texan]

I tried Spellforce 1 but got annoyed and quit when a siege on a town I was in started in real time during a cutscene. I was loosing troops and this guy was blabbing on about how a siege was about to start.

That doesn't happen in Spellforce 2, does it?

Well, not exactly. There are some broken puzzles, and a few times that you have to hit Esc during cut-scenes or you'll crash(You need a walk-through, for the timing is a bit tricky on those). Even with those issues, I still had fun with the game for a few weeks, somewhere between 30 and 40 hours played.

[luker161]

Does anyone know if Play.com ships to the US?

Edit: apparently not since I cant register with a US address. Sad :(

[Casimir Effect]

I tried Spellforce 1 but got annoyed and quit when a siege on a town I was in started in real time during a cutscene. I was loosing troops and this guy was blabbing on about how a siege was about to start.

That doesn't happen in Spellforce 2, does it?
There are a few times when a cutscene will kick-in just as you are trying to get something done. It was annoying but never detrimental, and in my experience it happens in quite a few RTS games (Homeworld springs to mind).


Well, not exactly. There are some broken puzzles, and a few times that you have to hit Esc during cut-scenes or you'll crash(You need a walk-through, for the timing is a bit tricky on those). Even with those issues, I still had fun with the game for a few weeks, somewhere between 30 and 40 hours played.
Never had to Esc from cutscenes but I did have the bug in the mosaic puzzle happen. Luckily the official message boards for the games have all this stuff documented pretty well and tel lyou how to get around it. It wasn't the most stable game I've played (though did get infinitely better now Starforce is gone) but it certainly isn't among the worst.

[mzlapq]

Velvet Assassin on amazon.com for $6.03

http://www.amazon.com/Southpeak-40343elvet-Assassin-Velvet-Download/dp/B003RWSIIY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1327940225&sr=8-2

The regular price on GamersGate is $4.95.

[LowKey]

I am going to sound like a bit of an idiot here but can I get a second opinion-

The Witcher 2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Witcher-Assassins-Kings-Version-DVD/dp/B005UZWE4K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327952810&sr=8-1) - £11.98

Now is that the full game there or is it just version 2.0? I think I know it must be the full game, maybe I am just tired...

[Althea]

I am going to sound like a bit of an idiot here but can I get a second opinion-

The Witcher 2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Witcher-Assassins-Kings-Version-DVD/dp/B005UZWE4K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327952810&sr=8-1) - £11.98

Now is that the full game there or is it just version 2.0? I think I know it must be the full game, maybe I am just tired...
Yes, that's the full game. Don't bother, though. Wait until the Enhanced Edition releases in April.

[ColOfNature]

Or buy it and get the upgrade for nowt when it's released.

[LowKey]

I was under the impression that older game get updated to the enhanced edition?

[Althea]

I was under the impression that older game get updated to the enhanced edition?
Yes, but The Witcher 2 is also getting said edition.

Whilst ColOfNature has a point, I'd still suggest holding off. Might as well get the game when they've finished tinkering with it.

[renhoelder]

Yes, but The Witcher 2 is also getting said edition.

Whilst ColOfNature has a point, I'd still suggest holding off. Might as well get the game when they've finished tinkering with it.

But you´d end up probably paying more than 12£ for the enhanced edition, so it would be wiser to buy the game cheaper now and get the update for free. After they release the enhanced edition the update will no longer be free.

[Althea]

After they release the enhanced edition the update will no longer be free.
That's because the only edition available after April 17th will be the Enhanced Edition.

The update itself will not cost money.

Edit: It's also worth bearing in mind that the retail edition of the Enhanced Edition will have an updated manual and guide, as well as potentially saving gigabytes of downloading. The price of 2.0 dropped quickly, EE will likely do the same.

[eRa]

That's because the only edition available after April 17th will be the Enhanced Edition.

The update itself will not cost money.

Edit: It's also worth bearing in mind that the retail edition of the Enhanced Edition will have an updated manual and guide, as well as potentially saving gigabytes of downloading. The price of 2.0 dropped quickly, EE will likely do the same.

Will there be a PC retail edition for the EE? I was most curious about this when the EE was announced but couldn't find anything specific on the matter.

[Kodeen]

Will there be a PC retail edition for the EE? I was most curious about this when the EE was announced but couldn't find anything specific on the matter.

Yes, there will be.

http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/the_witcher_2_assassins_of_kings_enhanced_edition_ announced/post102

[Althea]

Will there be a PC retail edition for the EE? I was most curious about this when the EE was announced but couldn't find anything specific on the matter.
I fail to see why not. There's been a few box shots floating about, and so on. I'll try get a proper source tomorrow.

Edit: Kodeen beat me to it. Teaches me to get caught up in reading stuff.

[Revisor]

Amazon - Bestselling games of 2011 - 24-hour recapitulation
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=br_lf_m_1000728511_pglink_1?ie=UTF8&plgroup=1&docId=1000728511&plpage=1

[squirrelfanatic]

Amazon - Bestselling games of 2011 - 24-hours recapitulation http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=br_lf_m_1000728511_pglink_1?ie=UTF8&plgroup=1&docId=1000728511&plpage=1No Skyrim in that list, which is surprising, even for a game released shortly before year's end.

[Doodier]

New Humble Bundle is now on! And it has something new! Android games

[Kodeen]

Amazon - Bestselling games of 2011 - 24-hour recapitulation

They have some great deals there. 4 cents off Sonic Generations. No cents off The Witcher.

Tempting.

[sabrage]

New Humble Bundle is now on! And it has something new! Android games
Well, they had to run out of good games some time..

[Althea]

If you like throwing shit at walls, Duke Nukem Forever is £3.74 due to it being Steam's mid-week deal.

Alternately, download the DNF demo, throw shit at walls for a few hours, dehydrate yourself by crying tears of laughter causing you to get a headache and then go to bed. You'll have had your giggles and it won't have cost you a penny.

[applecup]

If you like throwing shit at walls, Duke Nukem Forever is £3.74 due to it being Steam's mid-week deal.

Alternately, download the DNF demo, throw shit at walls for a few hours, dehydrate yourself by crying tears of laughter causing you to get a headache and then go to bed. You'll have had your giggles and it won't have cost you a penny.

Except for your dignity, maybe.

[SirKicksalot]

There are a couple of good parts in DNF. If you care about gaming culture and history, you should get it anyway.
The expansion is much better.

[Wizardry]

If you like throwing shit at walls, Duke Nukem Forever is £3.74 due to it being Steam's mid-week deal.

Alternately, download the DNF demo, throw shit at walls for a few hours, dehydrate yourself by crying tears of laughter causing you to get a headache and then go to bed. You'll have had your giggles and it won't have cost you a penny.
What do you think of DN3D?

[Althea]

What do you think of DN3D?
I've not played it. In fact, I've not played Nukem (bar the demo of DNF) since the first Playstation game.

[Scumbag]

On the subject of DNF how was the Doctor who cloned me DLC? Never saw any feedback on that.

[Kaira-]

Origin is having (at least here in Finland) a -70% off action games. Dead Space for less than 3€, Alice: Madness Returns for less than 10€ and so forth. Not too bad.

[renhoelder]

Origin is having (at least here in Finland) a -70% off action games. Dead Space for less than 3€, Alice: Madness Returns for less than 10€ and so forth. Not too bad.
Funny in my country, which is pretty much next to yours, in Estonia, Alice is €20 for me :S . Dead Space on the other hand is 3€. Damn Origin, oh well, it´s still $7,49 on amazon for some time. It´s a shame I don´t have another amazon promo code for $5 off, already used it on the Dragon Age pack.

[SirKicksalot]

On the subject of DNF how was the Doctor who cloned me DLC? Never saw any feedback on that.

It's cut content stitched together. It has the Terminators, the Duke clones, Area 51 and other stuff that was in the old trailers or leaked. It lasts about 4 hours. The first level has some crappy platforming but then it keeps getting better and better. It's more focused than the main game, the combat is quite good when they start mixing enemies and everything somehow flows better. It's hard to put the finger on what exactly it does better than the main game that it feels so improved. The last level is excellent though.
If you thought DNF was at least acceptable, you'll like this. Put it this way: it's as enjoyable as a throwaway FPS like Devastation, Red Faction, Serious Sam 2 etc.

[Scumbag]

It's cut content stitched together. It has the Terminators, the Duke clones, Area 51 and other stuff that was in the old trailers or leaked. It lasts about 4 hours. The first level has some crappy platforming but then it keeps getting better and better. It's more focused than the main game, the combat is quite good when they start mixing enemies and everything somehow flows better. It's hard to put the finger on what exactly it does better than the main game that it feels so improved. The last level is excellent though.
If you thought DNF was at least acceptable, you'll like this. Put it this way: it's as enjoyable as a throwaway FPS like Devastation, Red Faction, Serious Sam 2 etc.

Thanks for that. For £1.50ish I may give that a shot.
Did not think the main game was as bad as people made it out to be, but then again thats possibly because I set my standards to "Excrement" in preperation, plus I played it after they added the ability to carry more then 2 guns.

[Juan Carlo]

This humble bundle is pretty awful. I can't even muster the enthusiasm to pay 1 dollar for it.

[Jams O'Donnell]

This humble bundle is pretty awful. I can't even muster the enthusiasm to pay 1 dollar for it.

Really? Edge and Anomaly are both good fun.

[ColOfNature]

They're all great games, to say this bundle is "pretty awful" is risible. I already had all but Anomaly; I bought it for $5 just for that and very pleased with it I am too.

[renhoelder]

They´ll probably add some games as the sale continues. You can activate games on Steam and then download them for Android too, right?

[ColOfNature]

Yep, and get DRM-free installers for Windows, Mac and Linux too, if you like.

[sabrage]

They're all great games, to say this bundle is "pretty awful" is risible. I already had all but Anomaly; I bought it for $5 just for that and very pleased with it I am too.
It's a great deal if you don't have the games, but World of Goo and Osmos were in a previous bundle (the same one if I recall) and I already own Anomaly.

Judging by the way the graphic at the top of the page is set up, it's pretty obvious they plan to add more games, but the ones that are already there don't interest me enough to draw me in on that alone. This will be the first Humble Bundle I won't buy.

[lasikbear]

Edit: Wrong thread

[Juan Carlo]

It's a great deal if you don't have the games, but World of Goo and Osmos were in a previous bundle (the same one if I recall) and I already own Anomaly.

Judging by the way the graphic at the top of the page is set up, it's pretty obvious they plan to add more games, but the ones that are already there don't interest me enough to draw me in on that alone. This will be the first Humble Bundle I won't buy.

Ditto.

I already have Osmos/Goo and I decided recently to not buy games, no matter how cheap, if I don't really want them (a novel concept, I know).

[Althea]

GamersGate has a Jagged Alliance sale on here (http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/games?prio=relevance&q=jaggedalliance).

Well, it's Jagged Alliance, JA2, JA2: Wildfire and JA2 Gold, and two spin-off title thingies that aren't actually JA titles.

[icupnimpn2]

It's a great deal if you don't have the games, but World of Goo and Osmos were in a previous bundle (the same one if I recall) and I already own Anomaly.

Judging by the way the graphic at the top of the page is set up, it's pretty obvious they plan to add more games, but the ones that are already there don't interest me enough to draw me in on that alone. This will be the first Humble Bundle I won't buy.

It's a great deal if you have a modern Android phone or tablet. I almost picked up Osmos on Android the other day for four bucks or whatever they were selling it for. So glad I didn't, cuz here for about $5 I got that and much more.

I already owned everything but Anomaly on PC. World of Goo is better as a more tactile game. Anomaly seems to run great on the Samsung Galaxy S II. Osmos is a joy and feels very natural on the platform.

Oddly, the only one I don't enjoy on my phone is Edge, which started on the iPhone. It is far improved with keyboard controls on PC.

All in all, these are some of the most polished games I've played on Android, and in three of four cases I don't find myself wishing I was playing on a platform with keys or a D-pad - which is more than I can say for most Android games.

[Tikey]

GamersGate has a Jagged Alliance sale on here (http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/games?prio=relevance&q=jaggedalliance).

Well, it's Jagged Alliance, JA2, JA2: Wildfire and JA2 Gold, and two spin-off title thingies that aren't actually JA titles.

Interesting. What JA game do you lovely people recommend?

[Giaddon]

JA2 Gold, I'm sure.

For Direct2Drive users (now moved to Gamefly) you should have an email containing a 30% off coupon that expires on 2/3. So use it before you lose it.

[ColOfNature]

...coupon that expires on 2/3. So use it before you lose it.

You mean I've got a whole month?

[Giaddon]

February 3rd. :)

I'm in the US.

[ColOfNature]

Yeah, sorry [no I'm not], I couldn't resist [I'm just kind of a prat].

Shit, I've left my psychic interface on again.

[SirKicksalot]

For Direct2Drive users (now moved to Gamefly) you should have an email containing a 30% off coupon that expires on 2/3. So use it before you lose it.

I didn't receive it. Bummer.
Does it work on preorders?

And does the new service still tax buyers from outside the US?

[Kodeen]

Yeah, sorry [no I'm not], I couldn't resist [I'm just kind of a prat].

Shit, I've left my psychic interface on again.

I've found with reading the dates on this forum that instead of training my brain to think "31st of January, 2012", I have instead trained my eyes to merely scan center-left-right. I think that level of thought is very hard to change.

[ColOfNature]

People still look at me funny when I write dates "yyyy-mm-dd", even after I've explained how it's the most logical representation and we'll all be doing it after the Machines take over. People are weird.

[Kodeen]

But that's the best way. It sorts!

[renhoelder]

Bulletstorm $5.99 on amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40582Bulletstorm1-Bulletstorm-Download/dp/B004MPRFF2/ref=zg_bs_2445220011_14)

[SirKicksalot]

People still look at me funny when I write dates "yyyy-mm-dd", even after I've explained how it's the most logical representation and we'll all be doing it after the Machines take over. People are weird.

I'm European working for a California company from home during US work hours. I also communicate with clients based on other time zones. I often end up having no idea what date and time I'm running on.


Bulletstorm $5.99 on amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40582Bulletstorm1-Bulletstorm-Download/dp/B004MPRFF2/ref=zg_bs_2445220011_14)

Everybody buy this!

[ColOfNature]

Everybody buy this!

Agreed, I got it last time it was cheap on Steam and enjoyed every minute. The main campaign took me about 8 hours which is admittedly a bit short, but for sheer spectacle and nuts-on-the-road lunacy it's hard to beat.

[Sketch]

Not possible from the UK?

[Ignorant Texan]

Not possible from the UK?

Amazon US requires an US IP and mailing address for DDs.

[Rauten]

It requires the address, but not the IP, and the address is easily faked.

[renhoelder]

On amazon.com

Dragon Age: Ultimate Edition - $7.49 (http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Age-Origins-Ultimate-Download/dp/B004APAEHA/ref=zg_bs_2445220011_10)

Dragon Age 2 - $4.99 (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40599ragon-Age-21/dp/B004PGNJG2/ref=zg_bs_2445220011_1)

Both register on Origin.

[goatmonkey]

Sorry to be off topic but is there any word on a Dragon Age 2 Ultimate edition? I cant see myself every playing it other wise.

Have the new Indie Gala http://www.indiegala.com/

[Heliocentric]

Sorry to be off topic but is there any word on a Dragon Age 2 Ultimate edition? I cant see myself every playing it other wise.

Have the new Indie Gala http://www.indiegala.com/

That site is terrible on my android phone. What's in the bundle?

Edit: got a list here www.indiegamemag.com/bunk-bed-bundles-ensue-with-indie-gala-2/ seems rude to copy pasta

[sabrage]

What's in the bundle?
Nothing special. The market is saturated; there's nothing good left to bundle. People who've bought the previous bundles will already be looking for the next big indie game, so they'll probably jump on games like Dustforce and The Witness right away, and frankly I haven't seen much of interest in any of the smaller titles. I think the bubble needs to collapse and lay dormant for a few months for us to see a great bundle again.

[Althea]

Sorry to be off topic but is there any word on a Dragon Age 2 Ultimate edition? I cant see myself every playing it other wise.
Mass Effect 2 has been out nearly two years and hasn't had one, so when you consider that DA2 hasn't even been out for a year and has had just a few DLC releases, it doesn't seem particularly likely.

[Heliocentric]

Roboblitz is ace, it's portal esq but with some physics / melee combat, actually a delicious combination. It's boss battles are stupid, but you have infinite respawns to whittle them down which completely takes the annoyance away.

Best of all it's actually got multiple solutions to some of the puzzles, 'the right one' and some bodged together solutions.

[Casimir Effect]

Mass Effect 2 has been out nearly two years and hasn't had one, so when you consider that DA2 hasn't even been out for a year and has had just a few DLC releases, it doesn't seem particularly likely.
I can see Bioware not bothering with Ultimate Editions again because it loses them all the money they get from selling the DLC themselves. Adding together all the non-Feastday DLC for DA:O comes to 4080 magic Bioware points which I think is something like £25 in real money most of which must go to Bioware/EA. For <£15 a person can pick up DA:O Ultimate and get all that + Awakenings + Feastday crap + the game itself, but I imagine very little has gone to Bioware. So why do something like that with ME2 or DA2?

They may be bastards but they're clever bastards (even if only because their DLC system sucks).

[Althea]

I can see Bioware not bothering with Ultimate Editions again because it loses them all the money they get from selling the DLC themselves. Adding together all the non-Feastday DLC for DA:O comes to 4080 magic Bioware points which I think is something like £25 in real money most of which must go to Bioware/EA. For <£15 a person can pick up DA:O Ultimate and get all that + Awakenings + Feastday crap + the game itself, but I imagine very little has gone to Bioware. So why do something like that with ME2 or DA2?

They may be bastards but they're clever bastards (even if only because their DLC system sucks).
It'd be EA, not BioWare, but still.

But the thing is, the Ultimate editions exist to just fill in the market and resell the game. They're not about reclaiming development costs, because they should already be in profit (and if not, Ultimate editions would bring them closer). There's absolutely no reason why ME2 (and DA2, despite its lack of DLC) should not have a complete/Ultimate edition, especially this close to ME3. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

[ConcreteOtter]

On US Amazon Risen for digital download is $5.99. It also appears that the Amazon version is DRM free with the tages getting patched about back in December. Based on a email from Deep silver it seems Steam will also be getting a non tages version soon.

[Kodeen]

Dirt 2 is $5 on Steam. Any good? I'm currently reading the RPS WIT for Dirt 3 for comparison, because they never did one for Dirt 2 (lazy somethingsomething...).

Edit: Nevermind, I bought it anyway. Haven't really played a decent racing game since I made PC my primary platform. Plus this is one of those rare times where I want to play a game I bought RIGHT NOW.

[sabrage]

I can see Bioware not bothering with Ultimate Editions again because it loses them all the money they get from selling the DLC themselves. Adding together all the non-Feastday DLC for DA:O comes to 4080 magic Bioware points which I think is something like £25 in real money most of which must go to Bioware/EA. For <£15 a person can pick up DA:O Ultimate and get all that + Awakenings + Feastday crap + the game itself, but I imagine very little has gone to Bioware. So why do something like that with ME2 or DA2?

They may be bastards but they're clever bastards (even if only because their DLC system sucks).
I guarantee I'll never pay for any Bioware DLC as long as it's only available on their site. I don't like converting to monopoly money just to see characters that should've been in the game in the first place.

[LowKey]

Is DOW2 Retribution worth the tenner? I did enjoy DOW2 vanilla so is it just more of the same?