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Heliocentric
18-06-2012, 10:07 AM
Total War: Shogun 2 is 3.99 on Play.com in their 'Mega Sale'

http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/19008841/0/Total-War-Shogun-2/ListingDetails.html


Well played SEGA, but the last Total War game I finished a run of was Rome, I still have barely dipped my toe into Med2, Empire or Nap all of which I own by way of insanity sales.

NFS: Shift 2 is $5 on Gamersgate.
(Non-aff link: http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-SHIFT2/need-for-speed-shift-2-unleashed)

Opinions?

15 in the UK, what utter bollocks.

Off to the trading thread for me.

Althea
18-06-2012, 10:57 AM
15 in the UK, what utter bollocks.

Off to the trading thread for me.
That's because it's not on sale in the UK.

agentorange
18-06-2012, 11:21 AM
For Americans. Or people who have an American forwarding address.

Singularity $8 (http://www.amazon.com/Singularity-Pc/dp/B001UWGDPS/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1340014733&sr=1-2&keywords=singularity)
Bullet Storm: Limited Edition $3! (http://www.amazon.com/Bulletstorm-Limited-Edition-PC-DVD-ROM/dp/0700099956/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1340014740&sr=1-3&keywords=bulletstorm)
Grey Matter $8 (http://www.amazon.com/Gray-Matter-Pc/dp/B004JMXTNU/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1340014763&sr=1-2&keywords=grey+matter)
Rage $13 (http://www.amazon.com/Rage-Pc/dp/B003ICGL7I/ref=sr_1_1_title_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1340014851&sr=1-1&keywords=rage)
Brink...$2... (http://www.amazon.com/Brink-Pc/dp/B002GDRPYI/ref=pd_sim_vg_17)

Heliocentric
18-06-2012, 11:31 AM
That's because it's not on sale in the UK.
I got that, hence the smuggling comment...
Why is it when the generally abused and sale wise doubly so Euros get the stamp their feet about sales no-one minds but when the generally sale ultra privledged UK-ians do the same I get sassed? Yeah, I do get it, but still, NO OCEANS!

kataras
18-06-2012, 11:35 AM
Hmmm, between Singularity, Bulletstorm and Rage, what would people recommend? Which is the least generic one?

Heliocentric
18-06-2012, 11:39 AM
Hmmm, between Singularity, Bulletstorm and Rage, what would people recommend? Which is the least generic one?
Rage is a great journey that lacks a real ending, same with Bulletstorm if you can tolerate genuine difficulty, at its worst you will have to try things a few times to get through, but the check pointing is pretty good.

Trying not to run out of ammo is probbly the biggest complaint as you need ammo choice to actually pull off the better skill shots to get the ammo.

Rage is a great game though, Bulletstorm mostly just good,I wouldn't call either generic no idea about Singularity.

Althea
18-06-2012, 11:47 AM
I got that, hence the smuggling comment...
Why is it when the generally abused and sale wise doubly so Euros get the stamp their feet about sales no-one minds but when the generally sale ultra privledged UK-ians do the same I get sassed? Yeah, I do get it, but still, NO OCEANS!
I'm not sassing you, I'm saying it's not on sale in the UK. If it was on sale for 15 whereas in the US it was $5, then sure I'd be on your side, but I'm just pointing out that the UK version isn't on sale.

Flint
18-06-2012, 12:01 PM
Worlds of Ultima 1 & 2 (http://www.gog.com/news/free_releases_worlds_of_ultima_1_2) free on gog.com.

Winged Nazgul
18-06-2012, 12:11 PM
For Americans. Or people who have an American forwarding address.

Singularity $8 (http://www.amazon.com/Singularity-Pc/dp/B001UWGDPS/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1340014733&sr=1-2&keywords=singularity)
Bullet Storm: Limited Edition $3! (http://www.amazon.com/Bulletstorm-Limited-Edition-PC-DVD-ROM/dp/0700099956/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1340014740&sr=1-3&keywords=bulletstorm)
Grey Matter $8 (http://www.amazon.com/Gray-Matter-Pc/dp/B004JMXTNU/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1340014763&sr=1-2&keywords=grey+matter)
Rage $13 (http://www.amazon.com/Rage-Pc/dp/B003ICGL7I/ref=sr_1_1_title_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1340014851&sr=1-1&keywords=rage)
Brink...$2... (http://www.amazon.com/Brink-Pc/dp/B002GDRPYI/ref=pd_sim_vg_17)

Those don't seem to be digital downloads so normal smuggling methods may not apply.

TailSwallower
18-06-2012, 12:36 PM
Hmmm, between Singularity, Bulletstorm and Rage, what would people recommend? Which is the least generic one?

Singularity very obviously takes a lot of inspiration from Bioshock, but I still wouldn't call it generic. It's Bioshock with a heavier sci-fi lean to it, and a story involving time-travel and the Russians taking over the world. Has some interesting weapons and interesting set-pieces, but ultimately it's still a B-grade affair.

Giaddon
18-06-2012, 12:49 PM
Hmmm, between Singularity, Bulletstorm and Rage, what would people recommend? Which is the least generic one?

Bulletstorm, Singularity, Rage, in that order. Bulletstorm is tough, fun, funny, and basically great all around. Singularity is a B-movie stab at Bioshock, which actually succeeds as an action game (which I thought Bioshock did not), while Rage is long and dull.

sabrage
18-06-2012, 12:53 PM
Bulletstorm is a hell of a lot of fun if you like being exactly how to play your linear cussfests.

johnki
18-06-2012, 01:05 PM
The Worlds of Ultima games are free on GOG (http://www.gog.com/news/free_releases_worlds_of_ultima_1_2) right now.

Heliocentric
18-06-2012, 01:15 PM
Bulletstorm is a hell of a lot of fun if you like being *told* exactly how to play your linear cussfests.
Did I fix it?
Because, if so I agree.

sabrage
18-06-2012, 01:20 PM
Did I fix it?
Because, if so I agree.
Shoot, I re-worded it and must've skipped one. Bulletstorm's combo list might as well be a walkthrough.

Heliocentric
18-06-2012, 01:21 PM
I'm not sassing you, I'm saying it's not on sale in the UK. If it was on sale for 15 whereas in the US it was $5, then sure I'd be on your side, but I'm just pointing out that the UK version isn't on sale.

So, if it was 15 wearing an "on sale" hat you'd agree with me, but since its 15 and hatless my argument is voids?

Do you work on TF2 at Valve?

johnki
18-06-2012, 01:30 PM
Indiefort 2 (http://www.gamersgate.com/indiefort-bundle) seems to have just launched.

sabrage
18-06-2012, 01:34 PM
Indiefort 2 (http://www.gamersgate.com/indiefort-bundle)
Oh, Fortix 2! I just played a few hours last night and wrote a rather comprehensive review:

...It's a Qix clone.

Heliocentric
18-06-2012, 02:01 PM
Indiefort 2 (http://www.gamersgate.com/indiefort-bundle) seems to have just launched.

I don't own a single game, and I never want to. Yep... Shooting guns while riding a wolf should be a skyrim/new vegas mod.

RobC
18-06-2012, 02:05 PM
A tower defense game with a twist, Unstoppable Gorg is 50% off at GamersGate. Well worth it for those who like tower defense games.


http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-UGORG/unstoppable-gorg

Oshada
18-06-2012, 02:16 PM
Driver San Francisco is $7.49 on Steam for the normal edition, or $8.74 for a few more tidbits (4 single player challenges and 3 multiplayer cars. Didn't even know it had multiplayer!). It's pretty darn good, at that price I can highly recommend it.

alms
18-06-2012, 02:47 PM
Origin is selling a bunch of titles at 5 $//€:

http://store.origin.com/store/eaemea/search/?keywords=FloorPrice/

RobC
18-06-2012, 03:47 PM
I don't see the EA sale prices except on special editions of some games up to 40% off. Is the $5 titles limited to Europe?

alms
18-06-2012, 04:15 PM
Try the store homepage, there should be a banner on the right side of the screen "great games for 5$"

RobC
18-06-2012, 04:20 PM
Try the store homepage, there should be a banner on the right side of the screen "great games for 5$"

Hmmm, I don;t have that. My sale is: 40% OFF SPECIAL EDITIONS.

It states I am in week 2 or 4. Maybe the other sale was in week 1?

Heliocentric
18-06-2012, 04:30 PM
Origin is selling a bunch of titles at 5 $//€:

http://store.origin.com/store/eaemea/search/?keywords=FloorPrice/

Oh, man I dunno. I was going to buy all those games at RRP but they suddenly seem like devalued IPs.

Rauten
18-06-2012, 04:42 PM
Oh, man I dunno. I was going to buy all those games at RRP but they suddenly seem like devalued IPs.

Hear, hear! If even the dev/publisher is selling it on the cheap, surely the games aren't worth our time! Now if you'll excuse me, I'll go enjoy this little irony/hypocrisy while playing games bought on an indie bundle.

Corpekata
18-06-2012, 04:44 PM
Not really a "deal" but Gamersgate has acquired a couple Square Enix games they didn't have before and at reduced prices over other retailers. The Last Remnant probably the notable one, has a 15 dollar basic price, while it's been 30 or 40 dollars everywhere for what seems like forever. Might finally get dirt cheap if GG ever puts it on sale. Also have Front Mission Evolved, base price 12.99, usually 20-30 elsewhere. Both Steamworks.

Kodeen
18-06-2012, 04:51 PM
I've attempted to start The Last Remnant a couple of times, but the battle system feels too automated, though not as bad as FF13. Admittedly, I haven't really given it a good try so it might get better. Definitely try the demo first.

Tikey
18-06-2012, 04:54 PM
Origin is selling a bunch of titles at 5 $//€:

http://store.origin.com/store/eaemea/search/?keywords=FloorPrice/

It'd be awesome if Origin hadn't decided to set its prices in euros for my region.
Thanks EA for making sure I'll never use your service!

Rauten
18-06-2012, 05:17 PM
I've attempted to start The Last Remnant a couple of times, but the battle system feels too automated, though not as bad as FF13. Admittedly, I haven't really given it a good try so it might get better. Definitely try the demo first.

I found it to be... hrm... closest description I can think of is "an acquired taste"; As the game progresses, you have to pick much more carefully your decisions, and more important than that, manage your squads, choose carefully the members, skills, gear, and leader. It ends up having an enormous impact on the battle.
It's a game that feels simple, but once you get a bunch of hours into it, you start realizing there certainly is a level of complexity at work.

But yeah, try the demo, it's a very weird game, not for all tastes. Plus if your PC is a bit old it might struggle with it, not the cleanest of ports that one.


It'd be awesome if Origin hadn't decided to set its prices in euros for my region.
Thanks EA for making sure I'll never use your service!

[EA suit]Oh please, you speak Spanish, surely you must use Euros as currency![/EA suit]]

Kiril
18-06-2012, 05:27 PM
It'd be awesome if Origin hadn't decided to set its prices in euros for my region.
Thanks EA for making sure I'll never use your service!

Argentina isn't in Europe? I think it is YOU who can't read maps!

TechnoJellyfish
18-06-2012, 05:31 PM
Oh, man I dunno. I was going to buy all those games at RRP but they suddenly seem like devalued IPs.

Well played ...

DzX
18-06-2012, 07:57 PM
Also have Front Mission Evolved, base price 12.99, usually 20-30 elsewhere. Both Steamworks.

A mediocre game that one, with some of the most laughable, melodramatic story-telling in gaming [written by the guy behind FF13]. Mechanically it's decent, nothing special, with extremely shallow mechanics, but the games not worth the slog it becomes given there's so little variety and nothing is particularly refined.

Ravelle
18-06-2012, 09:03 PM
Origin is selling a bunch of titles at 5 $//€:

http://store.origin.com/store/eaemea/search/?keywords=FloorPrice/


Nothing on that list that really interests me, sadly.

Juan Carlo
18-06-2012, 09:09 PM
Hmmm, I don;t have that. My sale is: 40% OFF SPECIAL EDITIONS.

It states I am in week 2 or 4. Maybe the other sale was in week 1?

I don't see an origin sale either.

Maybe it's just in England and Europe?

Ravelle
18-06-2012, 09:49 PM
Yeah, the only sale is the 5 euro sale.

Leopig
18-06-2012, 10:15 PM
Tempted by Darksiders.

renhoelder
19-06-2012, 09:06 AM
Tempted by Darksiders.

It's well worth the asking price, but it's available for that price almost every other week on some site, so no hurries.

Leopig
19-06-2012, 09:12 AM
Yeah already found it a penny cheaper on another site and don't even think it is a sale lol. Basically I have managed to wrangle 40 of the wife for Diablo 3, but unsure about spending it all on one game when I can buy a few games for the same price. Ever since stumbling over savvygamer I am afraid to buy games in the fear of seeing them cheaper the next day lol. I used to impulse buy all the time, now it takes me 3 days of debating to lay any cash down.

renhoelder
19-06-2012, 09:40 AM
IsThereAnyDeal.com is my site of choice, among others, it offers price history too and has most of the DD sites gathered plus you can have it alert you when games in you wishlist go on sale via e-mail. Make sure you set the region correct though.

sabrage
19-06-2012, 10:09 AM
You can rest assured that Diablo 3 won't be any cheaper than that anytime soon, but the stuttering ruins the entire experience imo.

TailSwallower
19-06-2012, 10:34 AM
Basically I have managed to wrangle 40 of the wife for Diablo 3, but unsure about spending it all on one game when I can buy a few games for the same price.

Personally, I'd hold off until the Steam Summer Sale starts in the next week or so. For that money I daresay you'll be able to get at least 8 great games that aren't tied into an unreliable online-only system.

Themadcow
19-06-2012, 10:55 AM
Diablo 3 is 34.99 on Play.com but currently awaiting stock. Still, better price than most.

renhoelder
19-06-2012, 11:12 AM
GameFly the Final Destination - all the games thus far on sale for a last 48h (http://www.gamefly.co.uk/download-games/search/?kw=Final%20Destination&pf=1100&page=1&pageSize=78)
- some pretty good deals in there

Leopig
19-06-2012, 12:11 PM
Well I bought Need for Speed hot Pursiot and Darksiders off Origin. Darksiders is a 25GB Download o0. Will be leaving that one to do overnight as I only have 120GB a month limit, even though it would only take a little over an hour to DL

Oshada
19-06-2012, 12:36 PM
25GB?! I can distinctly remember the download being about 10GB.

TechnoJellyfish
19-06-2012, 12:53 PM
Darksiders is a 25GB Download o0.

Eh? Install size is 9.76 GB ...

Heliocentric
19-06-2012, 12:54 PM
Some picks from GameFly:
Batman AC 5 (not steam btw)
http://www.gamefly.co.uk/Download-Batman-Arkham-City-UK/5002191/

From Dust 2.99
http://www.gamefly.co.uk/Download-From-Dust-UK/5002447/

Leopig
19-06-2012, 01:00 PM
Eh? Install size is 9.76 GB ...

Not sure, when going to install on origin it said required disk space 25gb. Ah just started it and the download is 12gb, they must have had some patches.

Althea
19-06-2012, 01:05 PM
From the Gamefly sale, I recommend:

Grand Theft Auto IV (http://www.gamefly.co.uk/Download-Grand-Theft-Auto-IV-UK/5001168/) (4.99)
Aside from the triple-dip on DRM (four if you count Gamefly), it's quite a good game. Sort of. It has been cheaper, though, so perhaps holding out for a deal on the 'Complete' edition of GTA IV is a wiser move.

The Witcher: Enhanced Edition (http://www.gamefly.co.uk/Download-The-Witcher-Enhanced-Edition-Director%27s-Cut-UK/5001291/) (3.49)
Again, has been cheaper before but it's quite a good game with some interesting ideas.

Just Cause 2 (http://www.gamefly.co.uk/Download-Just-Cause-2-UK/5001407/) (3.50)
Don't bother worrying about the DLC, it's non-essential and comes down to a pittance in GamersGate sales. But it can be a fun game if you can stomach the over-large map.

GTA: San Andreas (http://www.gamefly.co.uk/Download-Grand-Theft-Auto-San-Andreas-UK/5001093/) (1.49)
Often said to be the pinnacle of the GTA series - it's got a brilliant map, a massive amount of variety in terms of activities, vehicles and so forth, but it is a little bit of a shitty port for PC.

Tom Cuhlancey's Rainbow Six Vegas 2 New York 3 BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD (http://www.gamefly.co.uk/Download-Tom-Clancy%27s-Rainbow-Six-Vegas-2-UK/5001564/) (1.75)
Perhaps the most friendly of the Tom Cuhlancey games if you play non-squad based manshoots. The controls take a little bit of getting used to and the graphics aren't particularly stunning, nor is the port 100% superb, but it's a capable game with some interesting mechanics and some good non-story game modes.


Not sure, when going to install on origin it said required disk space 25gb. Ah just started it and the download is 12gb, they must have had some patches.
It might be compressed or overstated - either is entirely likely. GamersGate is saying a ~13GB download, and as you said Origin is doing the same. It might just be overstating the size in order to make sure you have enough room for it to 'move' (i.e. download, install, etc).

Leopig
19-06-2012, 01:09 PM
Did you hav problems ordering from Gamefly? i tried the other day but the order froze so I cancelled because they didn't seem like they wanted to charge me.

Althea
19-06-2012, 01:21 PM
I've never bought from them. The games I have transferred from D2D.

Lewie Procter
19-06-2012, 03:33 PM
Apply coupon "HOTUK0611" to save 10% on those gamefly prices.

Kodeen
19-06-2012, 03:59 PM
GTA: San Andreas (http://www.gamefly.co.uk/Download-Grand-Theft-Auto-San-Andreas-UK/5001093/) (1.49)
Often said to be the pinnacle of the GTA series - it's got a brilliant map, a massive amount of variety in terms of activities, vehicles and so forth, but it is a little bit of a shitty port for PC.

For those buying San Andreas, be sure to find a downgrade to the 1.01 .exe (preferably of the No-CD variety), since for some reason when they upgraded to 3.0 they removed resolution options, including the ever-popular 1920x1080.

SirKicksalot
19-06-2012, 07:00 PM
Also download a 100% save and enjoy the game without the bullshit missions and restrictions.

Abacus Finch
19-06-2012, 07:16 PM
Also download a 100% save and enjoy the game without the bullshit missions and restrictions.

All you had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!

Hensler
19-06-2012, 08:14 PM
Thinking about buying Men Of War Assault Squad while it's on sale. I hear that it's mostly multiplayer focused, so is it any fun by yourself? I will play multiplayer sometimes, but probably about 80% solo for various reasons. Having never played a Men of War game, is there another one I should start with?

Revisor
19-06-2012, 08:23 PM
Does one have to use any Gamefly DRM/client?

cowthief skank
19-06-2012, 08:34 PM
I love Assault Squad, and only ever played it single player. It has no real campaign, just a bunch of skirmish maps.

The maps in the base game all seem to be of the same type - you have to capture and hold objective points while enemy forces try to stop you and force you back. I believe the skirmish DLCs may add different map types, but I have only just bought them so dunno for sure.

vinraith
19-06-2012, 08:35 PM
Does one have to use any Gamefly DRM/client?

Gamefly has its own client. I have no idea whether it's tolerable or not, since I archived all my D2D purchases before the switch and haven't been back.

Leopig
19-06-2012, 08:39 PM
I relented again today and tried to use gamefly again. This time they triggered the fraud protection on my card and i had to phone the bank to use it again, so bought Darkspore on Origin instead of LA Noire. Damn, just realised I have spent like 45 on games since friday, that's almost all of my dole money :(

Kiril
19-06-2012, 08:41 PM
You have to use gamefly's client. It is a glorified download manager as far as I can see, it downloads the game, then you click install, it fires up the installer then gives you the product keys.

Thats it for the client as far as I can see.

mzlapq
19-06-2012, 08:47 PM
Gamefly has its own client. I have no idea whether it's tolerable or not, since I archived all my D2D purchases before the switch and haven't been back.

You may want to redownload them from Gamefly (you do not need the client to install, you do need to enter your username and password). I am not sure if D2D DRM servers are still online, and if they are, how long they will be. It may be possible to just replace the exe with a "fixed" one, but one needs to check if that works for specific games. The games using D2D DRM are those with the 8-4-4-4-12 key.

Space Indaver
19-06-2012, 11:19 PM
Men of War: Assault Squad is 7.49 GOTY on Steam.

Co-op?

Marar Patrunjica
20-06-2012, 10:06 AM
I'm also interested in the Men of War deal but don't know which game I should pick up, which one offers the best singleplayer campaign? I'm not interested in skirmish-type maps, co-op or multiplayer. Any suggestions?

Janek
20-06-2012, 10:26 AM
For the single player you're probably best off going for the original Men of War.

sonson
20-06-2012, 10:46 AM
I'm also interested in the Men of War deal but don't know which game I should pick up, which one offers the best singleplayer campaign? I'm not interested in skirmish-type maps, co-op or multiplayer. Any suggestions?

The first one has an excellent set of single player campaigns. I gather Red Tide is even more single player focussed but have never really got into it.

Anyone enjoy MOW: Vietnam? I know it got a tanking on here but that was only regards to the first level, coverage elsewhere has also been pretty sparse. I liked the idea of it but I could also see it just being all of the annoying bits of MOW as a complete game.

meloncrab
20-06-2012, 01:43 PM
Taken from here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=465095):

Civilization V, Gods & Kings off 50% in Europe, 33% off in USA (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/43282/civilization-v:-gods-&-kings)

Ends 20/6/2012 4am GMT if I converted it correctly.

It's a mac store, but it sends you a steam key. And I'm on a PC and it activated fine, managed to download it and just started a game as Byzantine.

Leopig
20-06-2012, 03:45 PM
Starcraft II 18.95 (http://www.coolshop.co.uk/catalog/product/73926-starcraft_ii_2_wings_of_liberty_for_pc_and_mac_cod e_via_email_pc)

SirKicksalot
20-06-2012, 08:50 PM
Far Cry 3 29.25 USD with the GESTU-REOFT-HANKS voucher on GMG. Not a referral link. (http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/ro/en/pc/games/shooter/far-cry-3/)

Space Indaver
21-06-2012, 02:19 AM
Aww man, Total War Complete Series for $25 (http://www.gamersgate.com/DDB-TWCC/total-war-complete-collection-bundle) on GGate. This is everything, including the most recent DLC, right? DAMN IT.

vinraith
21-06-2012, 02:31 AM
Aww man, Total War Complete Series for $25 (http://www.gamersgate.com/DDB-TWCC/total-war-complete-collection-bundle) on GGate. This is everything, including the most recent DLC, right? DAMN IT.

Looks like it, yeah. The only thing clearly missing is Medieval 1, which I sincerely doubt you could get to run anyway. That's insane.

Edit: Woundedbum is right in his post below, I initially confused Rise of the Samurai and Fall of the Samurai, the latter doesn't seem to be included. Still crazy, though.

Sketch
21-06-2012, 02:34 AM
Unfortunately that doesn't include Fall of the Samurai.

Still, is Shogun 1 worth playing?

vinraith
21-06-2012, 02:36 AM
Unfortunately that doesn't include Fall of the Samurai.

Crap, you're right, I mixed up Rise and Fall.




Still, is Shogun 1 worth playing?

Like Medieval 1, I sincerely doubt you could get it to run. Old TW games do not play well with modern graphics drivers.

Space Indaver
21-06-2012, 02:39 AM
Shogun 1 was my first TW game, and probably the one I got invested in most. Not sure I'll be able to resist this pack! I might just get Shogun 2 and Rise of Samurai individually to save a bit of money, though. Are any of the other DLCs worth it? There are so many hours in the core game and Samurai that I doubt a few extra units would make much difference to me? I might get the Blood Pack. Just sounds fun.

EDIT: Ah, I didn't realise Rise and Fall were two things.

agentorange
21-06-2012, 06:01 AM
How similar are the other Total War games to Shogun 2? Shogun 2 is the only one I've played, and I really love the 4x over-world elements, even more so than I like the actual RTSing. Are the other entries in the series as heavy on that aspect, with tech trees and diplomacy and such?

Casimir Effect
21-06-2012, 10:26 AM
How similar are the other Total War games to Shogun 2? Shogun 2 is the only one I've played, and I really love the 4x over-world elements, even more so than I like the actual RTSing. Are the other entries in the series as heavy on that aspect, with tech trees and diplomacy and such?
Haven't played Shogun 2 myself but am currently playing Empire and that has a lot going on in the campaign map, from what I've heard I'd say more than Shogun 2. Napoleon I assume would be like Empire in this regard and then things get less so, ie. more focussed on the fighting, with Medieval 2 and Rome. The M2 overmap stuff mostly involves running around denouncing heretics with your priests, snaring husbands with your princesses, assassinating anything with a name and sitting merchants on trade resources. Rome is much more about the fighting but there are still things to do on the map, especially in Barbarian Invasion where religion is added.

sonson
21-06-2012, 10:51 AM
Unfortunately that doesn't include Fall of the Samurai.

Still, is Shogun 1 worth playing?

I haven't played it for a few years now, when I was utterly enraptured by it. It had a strong aesthetic all of it's own which wasn't dependent on hardware, so I don't think it will seem as dated as most games released a decade ago now do. It was excellent at creating at atmosphere, and was generally a very polished and efficient experience, I doubt that will have changed. Medieval took all of that, made it bigger, without sacrificing anything, and with the added Viking Invasion pack it was probably the best and most accessible simulation of naked realpolitik there has been on the PC.

It's a markedly different beast from any of the the 3D Total wars though, which became Civ lite + a spectacular battle engine. The original Total War's were sophisticated games of Risk, with sprite battles instead of dice rolls, but they were incredibly tight. Because the AI didn't have to grasp with complicated mechanics it was a genuine challenge and would regularly womp you on the map and in battle. They were very much wargames though, unlike the latest iterations, hence the title; all management of your province was about getting advantages in battle, and your empire, it's agents and it's population existed for the sole purpose of crushing everybody, there were little to no civic considerations. If you had an advantage it would relate to the military; if you were faced with a problem it would manifest itself as a military consideration. It was all about fighting, for ever. The mechanics in that sense, taken in abstract form, were rather like that of Company of Heroes, DOW etc-resources existed to make men, to take provinces, to give you more resources to make men, to take provinces, etc.

I think in hindsight the two Total War types are actually quite different games given how much the series has evolved. As has been mentioned, you will probably struggle to get it running, but I definitely would give them a go if you could.

Squiz
21-06-2012, 10:59 AM
Wow, that's an incredible sale. Since I was looking for a good price for Shogun 2 anyways and always wanted to try Rome, this is exactly what I need. I think I'll jump on that one.

renhoelder
21-06-2012, 01:08 PM
@Total War: Complete Collection. Can anyone confirm whether The Complete Collection activates on Steam as a whole or just some selcted games?

Heliocentric
21-06-2012, 03:03 PM
@Total War: Complete Collection. Can anyone confirm whether The Complete Collection activates on Steam as a whole or just some selcted games?

http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DDB-TWCC/total-war-complete-collection-bundle
See how they are listed as seperate boxes above the description.

In the Dungeons and dragons anthology they wernt and it didnt download seperately
http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DDB-DBAMC/dungeons-and-dragons-anthology-the-master-collection

But in the GTA bundle they did
http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DDB-GTACC/grand-theft-auto-brthe-complete-package-bundle
and were separate products.
The older games (anything before empire) will not activate on steam, and will instead have secuROM (in Medieval 2 Total War Gold Edition's case)

TLDR:So, you'd be able to gift any duplicates you end up with, but the older ones wont have steam.

renhoelder
21-06-2012, 03:35 PM
Thank for the info,

also GMG Commandos 3 - FREE (http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/ee/en/pc/games/action/commandos-3-destination-berlin/)
Servers are probably bogged, so it will take some time :)

CWalker
21-06-2012, 07:26 PM
You can get every Deus Ex game for 10 on Steam.

What an age we live in.

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/15147/

trjp
21-06-2012, 09:19 PM
You can get every Deus Ex game for 10 on Steam.

What an age we live in.

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/15147/

Deus Ex is the DFS of the gaming world - the sale ends on Sunday and a new one starts on Monday

Anyone who paid full price for the last game must be - well - a first day purchaser (I got it 2 days in for 1 via OnLive!!)

somini
22-06-2012, 12:06 AM
You can get every Deus Ex game for 10 on Steam.

What an age we live in.

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/15147/
Should I buy Invisible Wars? I liked Human Revolution and the first lived up to the expectations.
Also, is the Missing Link DLC worth it?

agentorange
22-06-2012, 12:35 AM
Should I buy Invisible Wars? I liked Human Revolution and the first lived up to the expectations.
Also, is the Missing Link DLC worth it?

The Missing Link DLC is definitely worth it. It's decent little self-contained plot, and it allows you to re-spend all your praxis points if you want to try a different style of play. The best part though is the boss fight; I don't want to spoil it but unlike the base game bosses it was done by the actual developers, and allows for multiple approaches.

Invisible War I think gets a bad reputation. It's certainly not on the level of the first game, in both gameplay and story, but there are still multiple ways to complete objectives and the plot builds on DX in some interesting ways. A lot of the changes were made to accommodate Xbox players, and at the time that was a big deal, but now days that's fairly common place so it probably won't be problem.

MD!
22-06-2012, 01:25 AM
I recommend that you buy and play Invisible War, but go in with low expectations. It failed in a lot of ways, but it also got a lot right, and it's worth playing as long as you don't go in expecting a 'true sequel' to Deus Ex. (I'm hoping this is how I'll eventually feel about Human Revolution. Right now, I consider Invisible War the second-best game in the Deus Ex series.)

Be prepared to do a bit of tweaking, though -- I remember the game was a bit of a mess technically, but fixable. I can't remember the exact sequence of tweaks and patches I used, but let me know if you do get it and something is bugging you.

Also, it ends pretty ridiculously. I think they ran out of time, money, and/or fucks to give.

Track
22-06-2012, 01:42 AM
Having never played any Deus Ex games, the collection is interesting to me, but do they hold up well? I know that the first is a classic (which means that i'd like to give it a shot at some point), but is it worth actually playing any more, or is it more important for its status and influence then actual gameplay at this point?

sabrage
22-06-2012, 01:54 AM
Having never played any Deus Ex games, the collection is interesting to me, but do they hold up well? I know that the first is a classic (which means that i'd like to give it a shot at some point), but is it worth actually playing any more, or is it more important for its status and influence then actual gameplay at this point?
It depends on how you play your games. My roots are deep in arcade and retro consoles, so I found the degree of complexity and freedom really taxing. If you like that, though, I don't think you can go wrong.

Kelron
22-06-2012, 01:54 AM
Having never played any Deus Ex games, the collection is interesting to me, but do they hold up well? I know that the first is a classic (which means that i'd like to give it a shot at some point), but is it worth actually playing any more, or is it more important for its status and influence then actual gameplay at this point?

It's still a fantastic game, and the disappointing thing is that despite all the critical praise its influence on gaming seems to have been fairly limited. It offers an experience that few other games do, even now.

IW is the weakest of the series, I didn't enjoy it at all but there's probably still a good game in there if you don't find the specific flaws annoying as I did. Human Revolution isn't groundbreaking like the original but it's a fantastic game that captures the atmosphere and feels like a true sequel.

MD!
22-06-2012, 02:01 AM
Human Revolution isn't groundbreaking like the original but it's a fantastic game that captures the atmosphere and feels like a true sequel.

A lot of people agree with this, but it's not clear-cut. To me, the flaws and changes in HR really ruined the feel, and made it less of a Deus Ex game than IW was.


Having never played any Deus Ex games, the collection is interesting to me, but do they hold up well? I know that the first is a classic (which means that i'd like to give it a shot at some point), but is it worth actually playing any more, or is it more important for its status and influence then actual gameplay at this point?

Deus Ex (the first) definitely holds up well as a game worth playing. There's no guarantee that you'll like it, and I think sabrage is right in what he said. It's not just about the degree of complexity and freedom, though. If you've mostly played modern games, you'll probably find Deus Ex quite strangely-designed in some ways. To me, Deus Ex gets it right and the modern design tendencies are mostly a step down, but you might see it differently. Bottom line, though: it's definitely not just a museum piece. If it clicks with you, it will be a great experience.

sabrage
22-06-2012, 02:24 AM
Deus Ex (the first) definitely holds up well as a game worth playing. There's no guarantee that you'll like it, and I think sabrage is right in what he said. It's not just about the degree of complexity and freedom, though. If you've mostly played modern games, you'll probably find Deus Ex quite strangely-designed in some ways. To me, Deus Ex gets it right and the modern design tendencies are mostly a step down, but you might see it differently. Bottom line, though: it's definitely not just a museum piece. If it clicks with you, it will be a great experience.
Much like Thief, I only made it as far as the first level. Objectively, I can look at it and say "Wow, they put a hell of a lot of work into this" but that doesn't necessarily mean I find it fun.

sinomatic
22-06-2012, 04:53 AM
I think the first level can put some people off, making it seem a little hard to get into (not the reaction I had way back when, but it's the reaction of a friend who wasn't used to older games and was struggling with it somewhat). I'd say it's definitely worth sticking at, and also, worth saving and trying different things out. The beauty and brilliance of DX is in the freedom to choose your approach to enemies/structures/encounters/conversations, so have a real play around and test things out in the beginning to start getting to what it's great at.

IW isn't a bad game at all, from what I recall (has been a while). It's only major crime was not reaching the heady heights that the original did (plus a few mis-steps in terms of changes made to benefit it's multi-platform nature). The real issue with playing it now is that last time I tried, it made me feel physically sick to play. I can't remember if it was an FoV or a resolution thing, but I barely got more than a few minutes into the game before I had to stop.

DX:HR was brilliant (it's not the original, but captures enough of it for me to get excited about). The Missing Link is very worth it, and had a moment for me (which may not apply to everyone) that stood up with some of the big 'wow!' moments in the original. So yes, worth getting.

MD!
22-06-2012, 05:36 AM
The real issue with playing it now is that last time I tried, it made me feel physically sick to play. I can't remember if it was an FoV or a resolution thing, but I barely got more than a few minutes into the game before I had to stop.

The FoV was a problem for me even on a 15" 1024x768 monitor, so I can only imagine how it'd suck on a big wide screen. There is a way of changing it, though. I'm not sure whether it was an .ini tweak or something more complicated, but it was doable.

edit: http://www.wsgf.org/dr/deus-ex-invisible-war

I seem to remember the mouse input was also rubbish, but fixable. If this is the utility I'm thinking of, it was very handy for fixing the mouse lag as well as doing a bunch of other .ini tweaks: http://deusex2.filefront.com/file/Full_Game_Tweaker_Tool;21399

There's also a high-res texture pack, but the author's site seems to be down. I'm sure it's still hosted somewhere, though.

NathanH
22-06-2012, 07:13 AM
The most annoying thing about Invisible War is there is a loading screen every seven seconds. I thought it was ok, but then I'm not a big fan of the original, which I also think is ok. At least in IW when my highly-trained operative points her gun at something she actually hits it.

tjv
22-06-2012, 08:00 AM
I just finished the first Deus Ex for the first time only last week. No problems with the game what so ever (played the Steam version). Only upgrades I did was the fan patch and the New Vision textures(with launcher). The textures making game look pretty sharp for a 12 year old game. Gog DE forums got a good post about this:
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/deus_ex_goty_edition/mods_for_deus_ex_graphics_gameplay_and_more
Bought Human Revolution while a go for PS3 already, but contemplating if I should get rid off it and get this PC version instead. Especially for this price.

TaroYamada
22-06-2012, 12:25 PM
Great deal for US PC gamers on Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition (not the original, AE!) for $9.99 on Amazon! It unfortunately uses GFWL, but worth it for what is hands down the best 2D fighting game on PC.

If anybody buys please PM me your GFWL tags so we can play some matches! I have 0 friends on that service.

Link (http://www.amazon.com/Super-Street-Fighter-IV-Download/dp/B0058KRA0K/ref=dsvrt_myd_asin_block)

renhoelder
22-06-2012, 12:32 PM
Great deal for US PC gamers on Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition (not the original, AE!) for $9.99 on Amazon! It unfortunately uses GFWL, but worth it for what is hands down the best 2D fighting game on PC.

If anybody buys please PM me your GFWL tags so we can play some matches! I have 0 friends on that service.

Link (http://www.amazon.com/Super-Street-Fighter-IV-Download/dp/B0058KRA0K/ref=dsvrt_myd_asin_block)

Not only for US gamers, everbody else as well with the amazon-us-only-workaround-thingy.

Leopig
22-06-2012, 12:34 PM
Great deal for US PC gamers on Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition (not the original, AE!) for $9.99 on Amazon! It unfortunately uses GFWL, but worth it for what is hands down the best 2D fighting game on PC.

If anybody buys please PM me your GFWL tags so we can play some matches! I have 0 friends on that service.

Link (http://www.amazon.com/Super-Street-Fighter-IV-Download/dp/B0058KRA0K/ref=dsvrt_myd_asin_block)


Legopig (yeah I typo's my screen name when joining here lol)

I play SSTIV:AE every now and again, could have a few rounds sometime if you don;t mind fighting against Sagat (he is the only one I am half decent with :p )

Arona Daal
22-06-2012, 02:42 PM
Be mine Bundle 3

Red orchestra 1
Avernum 4 5 6
and Stuff

Pwyw with Min Price 4 $

http://groupees.com/bemine3

elephant god
22-06-2012, 03:00 PM
I recently got DXHR from GMG for 1,75 (with some trading in and vouchering), with no DLC included. now that they are cheap, should I get any of the DLC? any good? I don't really see the point of a grenade launcher and all this explosive stuff, not very elegant...

postinternetsyndrome
22-06-2012, 03:04 PM
The most annoying thing about Invisible War is there is a loading screen every seven seconds. I thought it was ok, but then I'm not a big fan of the original, which I also think is ok. At least in IW when my highly-trained operative points her gun at something she actually hits it.

I agree that the starting accuracy with firearms in DX was a bit silly considering we're supposed to be a newly graduated super agent, but then again the fact that you suck at killing at the beginning of the game is what makes all the alternative approaches that much more viable. And it makes it really satisfying when you finally upgrade a skill to master.

NathanH
22-06-2012, 03:11 PM
I guess I just prefer it when shooter-RPGs handle the player skill/character skill question by making accuracy player skill and damage character skill. I've felt that is always the most satisfying way to handle it.

TechnoJellyfish
22-06-2012, 03:43 PM
Be mine Bundle 3

Red orchestra 1
Avernum 4 5 6
and Stuff

Pwyw with Min Price 4 $

http://groupees.com/bemine3

That is ... actually quite good.

How does this work? The site fails to provide information on payment options among others ...

alms
22-06-2012, 03:55 PM
You sign using either your Groupees credentials or Facebook/twitter. Payment options are Paypal, Amazon Payments and Dwolla.

Mana_Garmr
22-06-2012, 06:49 PM
Lego Batman 2 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/213330/) is up on steam now. 10% off, 15% if you own one of the previous Lego games on steam.

Similar
23-06-2012, 01:42 AM
(Be Mine 3)

How does this work? The site fails to provide information on payment options among others ...
The site doesn't exactly inspire confidence in general; things are rather unclear and it's annoying to have to sign up for it. That's a shame because it's a nice bundle and they could probably sell more if they took some inspiration from Humble Bundle.

It does work, though.

alms
23-06-2012, 02:04 AM
The site doesn't exactly inspire confidence in general; things are rather unclear and it's annoying to have to sign up for it.

Did you miss the part where you can login using facebook or twitter? :-? I'd choose proprietary l/p though every single time, the evil networks already know too much :P

if groupees doesn't inspire confidence to you, you should've seen indiegala when they launched their first bundle. The fact that it resembled the HIB so closely, sliders, stats and everything, made things even worse. There's always a balance to be struck between usability and recognizability.

Similar
23-06-2012, 02:42 AM
Did you miss the part where you can login using facebook or twitter? :-? I'd choose proprietary l/p though every single time, the evil networks already know too much :P
I didn't miss it, I just didn't want any connection to FB. The way Humble Bundle does it is just nicely simple and doesn't mean yet another site you have login and password for, just need to keep the email or make a bookmark for your page.


if groupees doesn't inspire confidence to you, you should've seen indiegala when they launched their first bundle. The fact that it resembled the HIB so closely, sliders, stats and everything, made things even worse. There's always a balance to be struck between usability and recognizability.
oh yeah, I didn't mean copy the looks, but Be Mine could certainly do with the useability. Kind of missing an 'average paid' stat too (just because I'm curious).

alms
23-06-2012, 02:50 AM
The way Humble Bundle does it is just nicely simple and doesn't mean yet another site you have login and password for, just need to keep the email or make a bookmark for your page.

To be fair, though, the recent trend in the bundle scene seems to be a move to this model, the point being that if you lose the bookmark or email, you don't lose access to your bundle, and they let you manage all of your purchases from a single page.

F. Lynx Pardinus
23-06-2012, 12:52 PM
So I'm curious whether the Valve + Adult Swim collaboration announcement next week will tie in somehow with the Steam Summer Sale presumably next week.

elephant god
23-06-2012, 01:49 PM
wow, not heard of it, what collaboration? sounds incredibly fun!

fiddlesticks
23-06-2012, 02:20 PM
This collaboration (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?5354-Valve-Adult-Swim-team-up).

alms
23-06-2012, 06:02 PM
Steam's daily deal is Vessel, 67% off:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/108500/

JamesG
23-06-2012, 08:25 PM
Tempting. I know the Steam sale starts this Thursday (most likely) but I think even if you see it on sale then, you're only going to knock another quid off at most.

Fredie007
23-06-2012, 09:31 PM
It's worth noting the developers are having the same sale over on their official website (http://www.strangeloopgames.com/) which nets you both a DRM-free copy and a Steamcode + it's cheaper because it's in $$ + more money goes to the developer.

trjp
23-06-2012, 10:13 PM
Tempting. I know the Steam sale starts this Thursday (most likely) but I think even if you see it on sale then, you're only going to knock another quid off at most.

I think it will be longer than that - my money is split between next Mon/Tue or the following one (just because they always seems to start the longer sales on Mon/Tue and run them to end on a Sunday)

That's if they've even doing one - there's been nothing remotely solid to suggest they are has there (games updating with new achievements etc??)

Giaddon
24-06-2012, 12:28 AM
Vessel is excellent. I encourage everyone to buy it.

As for the Steam sale, it has been on the last Thursday of June for the past two years, so a Thursday opener seems likely. If they are going to change it, I'd expect it to be sooner rather than later, this Monday. We'll see!

alms
24-06-2012, 12:42 AM
It's worth noting the developers are having the same sale over on their official website (http://www.strangeloopgames.com/) which nets you both a DRM-free copy and a Steamcode + it's cheaper because it's in $$ + more money goes to the developer.

Nice find, that's a move that I totally second. Just FTR, with paypal's cutthroat conversion, it's 4.11 €.

Space Indaver
24-06-2012, 01:54 AM
It's worth noting the developers are having the same sale over on their official website (http://www.strangeloopgames.com/) which nets you both a DRM-free copy and a Steamcode + it's cheaper because it's in $$ + more money goes to the developer.
I wish I'd seen this, I bought it on Steam about 20 minutes ago.

Also, Alan Wake Collector's $11.88 (http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/jp/en/pc/games/action/alan-wake-collectors-edition/)

Edlennion
24-06-2012, 03:20 AM
In case anyone wasn't sure, I can confirm that the Gamersgate Empire and Napoleon Total War (http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DDB-ENTWGOTYE/empire-and-napoleon-total-war-game-of-the-year-edition-bundle) gives you two steam keys - one for Empire and one for Napoleon which means that you can buy this even if you own one already and gift/trade the duplicate.

I say this because I couldn't find any other way to get Empire and all the DLC without buying this bundle.

baby snot
24-06-2012, 05:11 AM
It's worth noting the developers are having the same sale over on their official website (http://www.strangeloopgames.com/) which nets you both a DRM-free copy and a Steamcode + it's cheaper because it's in $$ + more money goes to the developer.

How does this work? I just purchased direct and I noticed the transaction was handled by Humble Inc. Do they not take a cut? Also, do the devs not pay for the Steam keys they bundle with the product?

Thermal Ions
24-06-2012, 06:13 AM
Also, do the devs not pay for the Steam keys they bundle with the product?
Based upon the information I've been given from a reliable source, if the game is for sale on Steam then it doesn't cost the Devs extra* to give out Steam keys for games purchased elsewhere.

* Of course it costs them something in time, effort and having a system in place to manage it which may be why some Devs don't do it. Also some alternative sites the Devs use to sell their game may forbid it within their terms of service - because they want to sell the customer added download insurance etc.

goatmonkey
24-06-2012, 09:59 AM
All the Dragon Ages at amazon.com $4.99 each download

Origins (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40465n-Age-Dragon/dp/B00477472O/ref=sr_1_66_bnp_0?s=videogames-download&ie=UTF8&qid=1340525173&sr=1-66&tag=isthcom0a-20)

Awakening (http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Age-Origins-Awakening-Download/dp/B00477473I/ref=sr_1_133_bnp_0?s=videogames-download&ie=UTF8&qid=1340525184&sr=1-133&tag=isthcom0a-20)

Too (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40599ragon-Age-21/dp/B004PGNJG2/ref=sr_1_41_bnp_0?s=videogames-download&ie=UTF8&qid=1340525168&sr=1-41&tag=isthcom0a-20)

Anyone think this might be the time to pick 2 up, and if so I have enough magic points I want to get rid of for one of the DLCs so recommendations there would be appreciated?

Fredie007
24-06-2012, 11:38 AM
How does this work? I just purchased direct and I noticed the transaction was handled by Humble Inc. Do they not take a cut? Also, do the devs not pay for the Steam keys they bundle with the product?

I hadn't really thought it through. I assumed the developers would see more of the money in the end based on the fact that they are selling it this way on their official site (which I associated with a larger cut of the profits). It'd be interesting to see how the price gets split, whether the developers selling through the Humble Store have to pay for the bandwidth for the DRM-free copies etc.

Leopig
24-06-2012, 12:04 PM
All the Dragon Ages at amazon.com $4.99 each download

Origins (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40465n-Age-Dragon/dp/B00477472O/ref=sr_1_66_bnp_0?s=videogames-download&ie=UTF8&qid=1340525173&sr=1-66&tag=isthcom0a-20)

Awakening (http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Age-Origins-Awakening-Download/dp/B00477473I/ref=sr_1_133_bnp_0?s=videogames-download&ie=UTF8&qid=1340525184&sr=1-133&tag=isthcom0a-20)

Too (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40599ragon-Age-21/dp/B004PGNJG2/ref=sr_1_41_bnp_0?s=videogames-download&ie=UTF8&qid=1340525168&sr=1-41&tag=isthcom0a-20)

Anyone think this might be the time to pick 2 up, and if so I have enough magic points I want to get rid of for one of the DLCs so recommendations there would be appreciated?


For that price I would try any game (apart from STALKER). I wish I lived in the US cause i would be all over Dragon Age II for that price.

Winged Nazgul
24-06-2012, 12:15 PM
For that price I would try any game (apart from STALKER). I wish I lived in the US cause i would be all over Dragon Age II for that price.

Just enter a US billing address and it can be yours for that price as well.

Leopig
24-06-2012, 12:16 PM
will any address work? like the whitehouse or something?

Winged Nazgul
24-06-2012, 12:17 PM
Pretty sure it will. Since it's a digital download, I don't think it really matters.

Fanbuoy
24-06-2012, 12:28 PM
will any address work? like the whitehouse or something?

If any address doesn't work, it's probably the white house (or other high profile addresses). There are address generators if you want to be certain that it'll work.

goatmonkey
24-06-2012, 12:32 PM
Don't you need to chose a certain area to avoid extra tax?

Leopig
24-06-2012, 02:03 PM
Hmm sounds dodgy to me, will leave it and wait for it to come on sale in the UK.

Fanbuoy
24-06-2012, 02:14 PM
Don't you need to chose a certain area to avoid extra tax?

I think so, yeah. IIRC Oregon should be fine.

Vexing Vision
24-06-2012, 03:14 PM
Green Man Gaming is offering Darksiders 2 (http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/de/en/pc/games/action/darksiders-ii-limited-edition/) for 25% off with the following code: DARKS-IDERS-TWO25

alms
24-06-2012, 03:50 PM
How does this work? I just purchased direct and I noticed the transaction was handled by Humble Inc. Do they not take a cut?

They normally take a (customizable) "tip" when they do bundles. As for the Store, it should be still in alpha and I don't think it has ever been announced or they even explained how it works to us commoners.

If I had to make a guess, I'd say they're taking a cut, but maybe less than Steam's 30% ?

If anyone has more accurate information, please chime in.

trjp
24-06-2012, 04:51 PM
If anyone has more accurate information, please chime in.

No-one will know other than the parties involved - agreements like this are always confidential and vary from developer to developer (and they're not supposed to tell people).

Humble will HAVE to charge something - card fees are not inconsiderable and bandwidth costs money too!! Also, this '30%' which people keep attributing to Steam is likely to vary by developer too (bigger and more expensive games will get a better deal, is my guess).

Humble Store is used by a few developers now - I first saw it on Legend of Grimrock...

vinraith
24-06-2012, 05:24 PM
All the Dragon Ages at amazon.com $4.99 each download

Origins (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40465n-Age-Dragon/dp/B00477472O/ref=sr_1_66_bnp_0?s=videogames-download&ie=UTF8&qid=1340525173&sr=1-66&tag=isthcom0a-20)

Awakening (http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Age-Origins-Awakening-Download/dp/B00477473I/ref=sr_1_133_bnp_0?s=videogames-download&ie=UTF8&qid=1340525184&sr=1-133&tag=isthcom0a-20)

Too (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-40599ragon-Age-21/dp/B004PGNJG2/ref=sr_1_41_bnp_0?s=videogames-download&ie=UTF8&qid=1340525168&sr=1-41&tag=isthcom0a-20)

Anyone think this might be the time to pick 2 up, and if so I have enough magic points I want to get rid of for one of the DLCs so recommendations there would be appreciated?

Does anyone know how long this one will last? I'll have some Amazon credit to blow tomorrow, but I'd hate to miss that price on DA2 if it's going to end today.

renhoelder
24-06-2012, 05:35 PM
Does anyone know how long this one will last? I'll have some Amazon credit to blow tomorrow, but I'd hate to miss that price on DA2 if it's going to end today.

It will run till the 30th, tis the "Deal of the Week", so no need to hurry.

vinraith
24-06-2012, 05:37 PM
It will run till the 30th, tis the "Deal of the Week", so no need to hurry.

Outstanding, thanks!

Spider Jerusalem
24-06-2012, 09:29 PM
there is also a bundle of da:o ultimate edition and da2.

here (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006P28VBM?)

alms
24-06-2012, 09:46 PM
Humble will HAVE to charge something

Seems very likely, but they could be very well operating at a loss on that specific service if they're aiming to become a hub for the indie scene.

Corpekata
25-06-2012, 12:56 AM
Square 50 percent off deal at Gamersgate. Normally mediocre but they just added The Last Remnant and Front Mission Evolved at far under their normal digital prices, so right now you can snag the Last Remnant for 7.50 and Front Mission Evolved for a little less, which is cheaper than they've ever been I think. Unlikely to get any cheaper during the Steam summer sale since the base price on Steam is still 30 bucks. Steamworks games

AFF (Last Remnant): http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-TLR/the-last-remnant-tm?caff=3884871
Non-AFF (Front Mission): http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-FME/front-mission-evolved

Bunch of other Square stuff but largely at prices that have been better before.

arathain
25-06-2012, 02:25 AM
The Last Remnant is a flawed gem, but a really interesting one, I think. In particular, I've always been impressed with the way it toys with having limited control in battle. You get to tell each of your formations who to attack and give them a broad focus (use magic attacks, heal yourselves up) but each character chooses an appropriate action based on their abilities. They'll even switch it up- I've seen units told to attack finish off their foe early, and one of the remaining characters healed an ally instead.

vinraith
25-06-2012, 02:29 AM
The Last Remnant is a flawed gem, but a really interesting one, I think. In particular, I've always been impressed with the way it toys with having limited control in battle. You get to tell each of your formations who to attack and give them a broad focus (use magic attacks, heal yourselves up) but each character chooses an appropriate action based on their abilities. They'll even switch it up- I've seen units told to attack finish off their foe early, and one of the remaining characters healed an ally instead.

It's interesting. Anyone that's considering it should probably play the demo. To me it felt far too much like the game was playing itself to be entertaining, but then I have a very low JRPG tolerance in general.

arathain
25-06-2012, 03:59 AM
That's actually one of the things I found so interesting, given how tightly JRPGs usually have you control your characters. I think it walks the line of too much and too little control in an interesting way, if not a totally successful one. It shifts a lot to your setup, which is almost, but not quite, interesting enough.

Gratuitous Space Battles showed me that if the set-up is interesting enough that can be all you need.

QuantaCat
25-06-2012, 08:03 AM
Anyone know of a Civ 5 base game in the ~7.5€ price range, because I own the expansion twice, and Im looking for a similarly good deal like the one I got originally. Its for a LAN copy :D

Also, I know GetGamesGo.com has it on sale at exactly that price, but they dont take paypal. Also, Im not UK based.

Thanks!

Vexing Vision
25-06-2012, 08:18 AM
I really enjoyed the Last Remnant's fighting system. There is a whole lot of depth to the build up of your formations that only really becomes apparent after several hours of gameplay.

Unfortunately, the Last Remnant features by far the most dislikable main character I ever had the displeasure to play. That eventually got the better of me before I got around to finish it, but it did last me around 50 to 60 hours before I couldn't stomach that kid anymore and just wanted him to fail and die.

Corpekata
25-06-2012, 09:02 AM
Anyone know of a Civ 5 base game in the ~7.5€ price range, because I own the expansion twice, and Im looking for a similarly good deal like the one I got originally. Its for a LAN copy :D

Also, I know GetGamesGo.com has it on sale at exactly that price, but they dont take paypal. Also, Im not UK based.

Thanks!

According to Isthereanydeal.com there's none currently. Game does tend to go on sale in that range pretty often though so just a matter of time.

Casimir Effect
25-06-2012, 09:20 AM
The Last Remnant is a flawed gem, but a really interesting one, I think. In particular, I've always been impressed with the way it toys with having limited control in battle. You get to tell each of your formations who to attack and give them a broad focus (use magic attacks, heal yourselves up) but each character chooses an appropriate action based on their abilities. They'll even switch it up- I've seen units told to attack finish off their foe early, and one of the remaining characters healed an ally instead.
It gets really clever when they start throwing wards and potions around instead of just healing. There were moments during boss fights where my whole team would 'click' and every move choice they made was perfect. Then there's battles where they spend their entire time healing the damn cyclops or whatever reject guest union you have.

TechnoJellyfish
25-06-2012, 09:33 AM
Also, I know GetGamesGo.com has it on sale at exactly that price, but they dont take paypal. Also, Im not UK based.

Huh? They usually accept PayPal and their offers are not limited to the UK.

downgrade
25-06-2012, 09:38 AM
For me getgames never accepted paypal without credit card for steamworks games. I guess they had a lot of chargebacks. Pretty annoying that.

TechnoJellyfish
25-06-2012, 10:22 AM
I bought Serious Sam 3: BFE Deluxe a few days ago using PP without any problems. But I remember similar statements regarding GetGames and PayPal, hence I wrote "usually".

downgrade
25-06-2012, 10:28 AM
Maybe they changed their policy again or you can gain something like a "trusted customer" status in their database. I haven't really bought all that much from them.

QuantaCat
25-06-2012, 10:36 AM
They wrote that they cannot accept paypal for steam games. Ive bought from them before.

AlexClockwork
25-06-2012, 12:33 PM
It's interesting. Anyone that's considering it should probably play the demo. To me it felt far too much like the game was playing itself to be entertaining, but then I have a very low JRPG tolerance in general.

I'm really interested in this game, and I want to try the demo, but... Though Steam says it's got a demo, the game's page doesn't show me a "download demo" button. Is the demo anywhere else?

trjp
25-06-2012, 12:49 PM
For me getgames never accepted paypal without credit card for steamworks games. I guess they had a lot of chargebacks. Pretty annoying that.

They change their mind about this quite often - the first time they did the cheap DS3 deal they didn't accept PayPal (and they're blacklisted with a lot of cards meaning I couldn't buy it). They redid the offer shortly thereafter and DID accept PayPal that time (and they nicely emailled me to point this out).

Actually, I've had nothing but a great experience with GGG - when my Space Rangers Reboot code wouldn't work they simply supplied a new code AND refunded my money - all within 24 hours of purchase!

Speaking of Dungeon Siege III - it's the deal of the day at Gamergate for pennies (with or without DLC)

trjp
25-06-2012, 12:53 PM
I'm really interested in this game, and I want to try the demo, but... Though Steam says it's got a demo, the game's page doesn't show me a "download demo" button. Is the demo anywhere else?

http://www.gamershell.com/download_40086.shtml

I warn you - it's a bugger to make work on some systems...

AlexClockwork
25-06-2012, 01:14 PM
Thanks! Hope I can make it work...

trjp
25-06-2012, 01:34 PM
Thanks! Hope I can make it work...

It has pretty insane system requirements (for it's day) and it still runs poorly IIRC. The battle system was quite capable of dragging a PS3/360 into single-figure FPS fairly frequently and I don't remember the PC port being particularly polished...

Being turn-based it hardly makes it unplayable - it just gets a bit jarrrrring...

Casimir Effect
25-06-2012, 03:27 PM
It has pretty insane system requirements (for it's day) and it still runs poorly IIRC. The battle system was quite capable of dragging a PS3/360 into single-figure FPS fairly frequently and I don't remember the PC port being particularly polished...

Being turn-based it hardly makes it unplayable - it just gets a bit jarrrrring...
See I find it has plenty of graphics options and runs pretty well, I've seen far worse ports. There's one or two areas where the framerate drops unless you get rid of shadows or something like that. It also lacks VSync unless you force through graphics drivers. Otherwise it's standard Unreal engine so you can tweak the .ini files to make it look incredible. And I don't have a great system so it's not that I'm lucky enough to be throwing SLi 560s and i7's at it (275GT and Phenom II X4, incidentally)
360 Gamepad (or alternative) is a must though, in my opinion anyway.

Console versions were awful by the look of it though. Huge loading times for certain moves and the game is pretty different.

arathain
25-06-2012, 05:05 PM
It runs well on my elderly system, and it looks great.

For me, it suffers from two problems common to JRPGs. Firstly, as mentioned above, the main character is as close to being insufferable as I've ever experienced in any game I kept playing. He's such a moron. Secondly, the game takes quite a while before it lets you have sufficient options with party set-up that things start to get interesting. I think that nevertheless it rewards patience.

Kodeen
25-06-2012, 05:43 PM
For what it's worth, I can run it on my system with a Phenox II x2 and a 550ti with max settings, and Vsync forced through the Nvidia driver, and it's very smooth. It's odd for the PC to be the preferred platform for a JRPG, but there you are.

Casimir Effect
25-06-2012, 08:53 PM
It runs well on my elderly system, and it looks great.

For me, it suffers from two problems common to JRPGs. Firstly, as mentioned above, the main character is as close to being insufferable as I've ever experienced in any game I kept playing. He's such a moron. Secondly, the game takes quite a while before it lets you have sufficient options with party set-up that things start to get interesting. I think that nevertheless it rewards patience.
He gets better and does grow as a character, but yeah he's kind of insufferable for much of it. Par for the course in that genre though, like you say.
And you're right on the other point too, and the way the game feeds you new party members means you can miss out on some of the better ones or face them being severaly under-levelled.

It's a weird one to be sure, but damn good fun if it does resonate with you. I've sunk around 150 hours into it over 2 playthroughs.

trjp
26-06-2012, 01:30 AM
For what it's worth, I can run it on my system with a Phenox II x2 and a 550ti with max settings, and Vsync forced through the Nvidia driver, and it's very smooth. It's odd for the PC to be the preferred platform for a JRPG, but there you are.

For the record, that PC is a millenium falcon compared to the early C2D's and 8800s which were 'state of the art' when it was released :)

Themadcow
26-06-2012, 10:59 AM
Batting for the Dark Side:

Meh, I feel grubby. I've finally given in and provided EA with 3.20 for Dragon Age 2 (still on sale in Amazon US store), despite it being the definition of the RPG Decline... but I guess the fact that so many proper RPG's are slated for release in 2012/2013 kinda makes up for it. Maybe if I send a dirty protest to EA head office next week it'll make me feel better.

Batting for the Jedi:

2.99 for Penny Arcade 3, Cthulu Saves the World and Breath of Death VII from Steam until 2nd July is just insane value. Very much looking forward to getting my Cardboard Tube Samurai, Crabomancers, Hobo's, Dinosorceror and Gardenar jollies this weekend... and possibly this lunchtime at work (*squints eyes and pans the room quickly from side to side*)

Oshada
26-06-2012, 12:04 PM
Meh, I feel grubby. I've finally given in and provided EA with 3.20 for Dragon Age 2

Sure it was kind of mediocre compared to Origins, and had a legitimate lack of varied locations, but it was still an interesting game which I feel was ultimate saved by its characters.

Kodeen
26-06-2012, 01:00 PM
Telltale sale at GOG, 60% off Sam & Max and Monkey Island.

http://www.gog.com/promo/telltale_launch

Universal Hamster
26-06-2012, 08:36 PM
With Alien Vs Predator (The new one) at 2.99 on steam, how does it rate as a multiplayer game?

SirKicksalot
26-06-2012, 08:59 PM
There are always people online but they're too good at it to make it fun for a noob.
If you find ther new people it's good fun. The xenomorph is a pleasure to control.

eRa
26-06-2012, 10:25 PM
Duel of the Planeswalkers 2013 eats my live now, on the iPad even. I'm also trying to play Crusader Kings 2 Sword of Islam.

Janek
26-06-2012, 10:30 PM
The new Indiegala is looking pretty good (http://www.indiegala.com/), albeit stretching the definition of Indie a bit. If you pay more than $6.25 you get:

- All the Commandos games
- The Void
- Cargo: The Quest for Gravity
- Ion Assault
- Air Conflicts: Secret Wars

Worth it for the Commandos series and the Icepick Lodge games if you ask me.

Oshada
27-06-2012, 02:08 AM
Holy shit, Steam midweek madness is LA Noire for 75% off. That's $3.74 in Australia! Crazy talk.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/110800/

Also, it's cheaper to buy the DLC separately rather than buy the Complete Edition ($14.99 vs $3.74+$4.49).

http://store.steampowered.com/app/110810/

I'll go out on a limb and say it won't get any cheaper in the Summer Sale.

AlonePlusEasyTarget
27-06-2012, 05:42 AM
Good thing that in my region, the Complete Edition is sold at $5.74. Bought it without a second thought and it won't go any cheaper anyway in summer sale.

Marar Patrunjica
27-06-2012, 10:19 AM
The Complete Edition is 9,99€ in my corner of Europe, compared to 5.74$ that's insane. So yeah, not going to buy it until a fairer pricing appears, so probably never.

Space Indaver
27-06-2012, 10:56 AM
The Complete Edition is 9,99€ in my corner of Europe, compared to 5.74$ that's insane. So yeah, not going to buy it until a fairer pricing appears, so probably never.

You probably have healthcare. Call it a Good Country Tax.

Marar Patrunjica
27-06-2012, 12:08 PM
Not all of the countries that are part of the European Union have the same standard of living, the average salary in this part of the old soviet bloc is about 300€ for instance.

kataras
27-06-2012, 02:44 PM
So what is the consensus on LA Noir? Is it different enough that it's worth buying?

Winged Nazgul
27-06-2012, 02:51 PM
So what is the consensus on LA Noir? Is it different enough that it's worth buying?

No-brainer at the US prices.

F. Lynx Pardinus
27-06-2012, 02:59 PM
So what is the consensus on LA Noir? Is it different enough that it's worth buying?
If you like adventure games, then I think you'd probably like LA Noire. I certainly did. At $8, like Winged Nazgul said, no brainer.

kataras
27-06-2012, 04:18 PM
Thanks both for the comments. I guess the matter is solved!

trjp
27-06-2012, 07:23 PM
So what is the consensus on LA Noir? Is it different enough that it's worth buying?

If you're expecting a GTA game but with a detective element - you'll be hugely disappointed (it's what most people expected and thus it's poor reviews).

If you take it as a semi-interactive 50s detective TV show and just ignore the fact that the detective parts of it are largely broken - I think you'll enjoy it. It's a video game where you'll actually recognise the actors and the story is OK in a hokey late night TV style...

At current prices it's hard to see many people being disappointed (apart from people with bandwidth issues as it's a MASSIVE download).

alms
27-06-2012, 08:44 PM
Ok, I liked LA Noire, so with the bias out of the way: I don't think you'll see many other games like that, it would get my recommendation just for that (too bad that sales like these will only likely benefit Rockstar and not the defunct Team Bondi)

In fact, I'm probably gonna buy the DLC pack, since I've already got the base package for the fantastic price of FREE! thanks to the generosity of The Innocent.

(PS: I haven't played GTA in a long time, since SA actually, so driving like a madman around LA was still thrilling for me)
(PPS: regardless of different standards of living in Europe, I don't think the money I give to Steam will ever find a way back to healthcare in any european country)

alms
27-06-2012, 08:55 PM
PPPS: Avernum - the re-re-reboot Steam daily deal 66% off (3.39 €)

johnki
27-06-2012, 08:59 PM
For Tribes: Ascend players, Steam has a pretty awesome starter pack going on for the game right now. $10 for something like 2 classes, 4 perks, 50% lifetime experience bonus, 800 gold, and something else.

Heliocentric
27-06-2012, 10:55 PM
PPPS: Avernum - the re-re-reboot Steam daily deal 66% off (3.39 €)

People, talk to me. Is it actually good, I need the opinion of someone who enjoyed Dragon age 2 more than one and another person who likes final fantasy tactics but gets annoyed at the OLD rpgs like Wizardry and such. GOGOGO!


For Tribes: Ascend players, Steam has a pretty awesome starter pack going on for the game right now. $10 for something like 2 classes, 4 perks, 50% lifetime experience bonus, 800 gold, and something else.
FOR GOD SAKE, I hate this crap. I don't want to have to unlock content relevant to balance, and i certainly don't want to have to pay for it.

GTFO of my hobby pay to win.

johnki
27-06-2012, 11:32 PM
FOR GOD SAKE, I hate this crap. I don't want to have to unlock content relevant to balance, and i certainly don't want to have to pay for it.

GTFO of my hobby pay to win.
I'd really hate to be the guy to argue with such a uhm...strong...opinion, but from what I can tell it really isn't pay to win. It's all lateral progress, as in, unlocking this stuff just gives you more options...the same way that unlocking more heroes in LoL gives you more options.

And I'm pretty sure the perks are just giving different classes stuff that other classes already have, or at least that's the impression I get from the Starter Pack page.

Of course, I haven't played it long enough to know, but I definitely haven't felt vastly overpowered even once, and I'm pretty sure a lot of the people I was playing against bought that pack.

sabrage
27-06-2012, 11:38 PM
I'm with Helio. You don't play hockey with half the players missing pads.

Corpekata
27-06-2012, 11:51 PM
Amazon rep over at Cheapassgamer posted that Max Payne 3 and Spec Ops the Line will be 50 percent off in their summer sale (currently some vague time in July). Easy enough to get past the fact they're US only with some fake info but if you have trouble you may want to look into setting up a data smuggler earlier if those prices tempt you.

They've said they'll have the option to snag Steam keys for Max Payne as well if you want. Think Spe Ops is already Steamworks so no choice there.

Juan Carlo
28-06-2012, 01:10 AM
People, talk to me. Is it actually good, I need the opinion of someone who enjoyed Dragon age 2 more than one and another person who likes final fantasy tactics but gets annoyed at the OLD rpgs like Wizardry and such. GOGOGO!


I hated Dragon Age 2 and have never played Final Fantasy Tactics or Wizardry, for what it's worth, but I really loved Avernum: EFTP. It's one of the better open world RPGs on Steam, I think.

Pros:

-Turn based, party based (although you can play as a singleton if you want)
-Massive world, none of which feels algorithm generated (e.g. there is usually something worth exploring in every nook and cranny)
-Interesting setting
-Lots of loot and stats and such, which once the game gets going, can be as addicting as any Diablo-like
-On harder difficulties it can be a real challenge

Cons:

-The plot isn't all that great (the game really is more an interesting "setting" than it has an interesting "plot." It's not bad, but it's nowhere as complex as later spiderweb games like "Avadon" or the later Geneforge games)
-Interface has some odd quirks which take some getting used to (as with all spiderweb games)
-terrible path finding can be annoying at times
-a few to many trash mobs at times (which really only bothered me late game once leveling slows down)
-some boss battles are good, while others can be a bit formulaic/tedious


But over all, I really liked it, despite its flaws. You can always give the demo a spin if you are unsure.

vinraith
28-06-2012, 04:49 AM
Am I the only one that would actually feel guilty buying Avernum at that price? It's actively offputting to see a game of that nominal length and depth priced like a piece of fluff.

Spider Jerusalem
28-06-2012, 05:12 AM
I'd really hate to be the guy to argue with such a uhm...strong...opinion, but from what I can tell it really isn't pay to win. It's all lateral progress, as in, unlocking this stuff just gives you more options...the same way that unlocking more heroes in LoL gives you more options.
yeah it definitely isn't that in tribes. without a doubt, the best weapons for quite a few classes are a 100k exp unlock away (not to mention perks, etc.).

johnki
28-06-2012, 06:39 AM
yeah it definitely isn't that in tribes. without a doubt, the best weapons for quite a few classes are a 100k exp unlock away (not to mention perks, etc.).
Yes, because the XP is the cash shop currency...

You buy convenience. It's how it works. It's got more of a grind than some games, but you can, without a doubt, compete with the newbie stuff, which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for other games. That and all of the stuff you can buy with real currency, you can buy with XP, from what I can tell, barring things like permanent XP increases.

Seriously, they're giving you an entire game for free if you're willing to put in the effort. A high quality experience for less than a single penny. The least people could do is not complain when the stick turns out to be a 10 foot barge pole.

TechnoJellyfish
28-06-2012, 08:40 AM
PPPS: Avernum - the re-re-reboot Steam daily deal 66% off (3.39 )

Is this the recommended starting point to the Avernum series (being a remake of the first three iterations)? Do I miss anything if I play this and then move on to Avernum 4?

Vexing Vision
28-06-2012, 08:45 AM
Is this the recommended starting point to the Avernum series (being a remake of the first three iterations)? Do I miss anything if I play this and then move on to Avernum 4?

Yes, you'd miss Avernum 3 which has the best puzzles and set-pieces of the series apart from 6.

I think it's perfectly valid to skip Avernum 2 though. 3 is a stand alone, and 4.5,6 contain their own story-arc.

TechnoJellyfish
28-06-2012, 09:02 AM
Oh, so Escape From the Pit only covers Avernum 1 contentwise? I thought it more of a (remade) compilation of 1, 2 and 3.

Vexing Vision
28-06-2012, 09:13 AM
Oh, so Escape From the Pit only covers Avernum 1 contentwise? I thought it more of a (remade) compilation of 1, 2 and 3.

Considering that each game has around 50 to 80 hours of gametime, that'd be a bit massive. :)

Avernum: Escape from the Pit is the modernized remake of Avernum 1, which was the modernized remake of Exile 1. Still worth playing.

TechnoJellyfish
28-06-2012, 09:30 AM
I see ... With Avernum 2 and 3 being absent on Steam and the vague information on spiderweb's site, I reached a wrong conclusion.

Thanks for clarifying!

Drake Sigar
28-06-2012, 09:42 AM
Avernum kinda looks a bit Ultima 7ish to me. As great as that game was, I'm not sure I'd like it today.

Revisor
28-06-2012, 10:36 AM
Another excited vote for Avernum. It's not perfect (especially regarding the plot and visible consequences of your actions in the world) but it's great. Everything is lovingly handcrafted, with a lot of strategic choices, secrets, side quests etc.

F. Lynx Pardinus
28-06-2012, 11:02 AM
The plot isn't all that great (the game really is more an interesting "setting" than it has an interesting "plot." It's not bad, but it's nowhere as complex as later spiderweb games like "Avadon" or the later Geneforge games)

I play RPGs mostly for story (Black Isle Studios/Troika/Obsidian/Bioware RPGs). An open-world where you make your own adventure (Mount and Blade) doesn't really appeal to me. Would I like the Spiderweb games? Which would be the best series/game to start with given my preferences?

F. Lynx Pardinus
28-06-2012, 02:11 PM
Thanks both for the comments. I guess the matter is solved!
If you buy L.A. Noire, make sure you play with the gameplay options during the first case. They determine the type and amount of hints you get during the investigations, and I found the default settings to be too hand-holding.

Heliocentric
28-06-2012, 02:14 PM
I play RPGs mostly for story (Black Isle Studios/Troika/Obsidian/Bioware RPGs). An open-world where you make your own adventure (Mount and Blade) doesn't really appeal to me. Would I like the Spiderweb games? Which would be the best series/game to start with given my preferences?

I mirror this, but not out of a preference either way, I just want to know.

Giaddon
28-06-2012, 02:24 PM
Geneforge 1-5 on GoG, $10 (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/geneforge_15).

Heliocentric
28-06-2012, 02:27 PM
Geneforge 1-5 on GoG, $10 (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/geneforge_15).

Did some announce "sale on games that look terrible but people swear are really good" day? I'm perplexed.

Vexing Vision
28-06-2012, 02:30 PM
I play RPGs mostly for story (Black Isle Studios/Troika/Obsidian/Bioware RPGs). An open-world where you make your own adventure (Mount and Blade) doesn't really appeal to me. Would I like the Spiderweb games? Which would be the best series/game to start with given my preferences?

Yes - the game is still driven by the narrative, and while you can get sidetracked with exploration or sidequests, you still have a clear goal from the very beginning. The individual stories and most of the dialogues are quite well-written and enjoyable, even if for most of the Avernum series, the overall plot is a bit lush. (Av 1 and 3 have an excellent plot, Av 5 is the weakest one.)

Kodeen
28-06-2012, 02:40 PM
I see ... With Avernum 2 and 3 being absent on Steam and the vague information on spiderweb's site, I reached a wrong conclusion.

Thanks for clarifying!

I think Vogel has made his intentions known to rewrite each game in the first Avernum trilogy, 2 and 3 just aren't done yet. It might be a little while until they are, too, since he's currently doing Avadon 2, then Avernum 2 remake, and then who knows.

F. Lynx Pardinus
28-06-2012, 02:45 PM
Yes - the game is still driven by the narrative, and while you can get sidetracked with exploration or sidequests, you still have a clear goal from the very beginning. The individual stories and most of the dialogues are quite well-written and enjoyable, even if for most of the Avernum series, the overall plot is a bit lush. (Av 1 and 3 have an excellent plot, Av 5 is the weakest one.)

Thanks! For $3, I can't really go wrong.

El Cubo
28-06-2012, 05:14 PM
I liked Avernum when it was Exile.

motherpuncher
28-06-2012, 08:31 PM
Gamersgate has a number of EA games on sale right now. I might pickup ME3 for that price.

shaydeeadi
28-06-2012, 08:38 PM
I posted in tech help but am kinda considering grabbing this tonight and I'm asking if anyone knows anyone or themselves own or have tried one.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/laptop/range/nspirepro2350

Looks badass, but Novatech laptop reliability has been patchy in the past, it's been hard to find consumer reviews. Anyone?

Leopig
28-06-2012, 08:43 PM
You realise the 399 price is with no operating system?

Janek
28-06-2012, 08:44 PM
Gamersgate has a number of EA games on sale right now. I might pickup ME3 for that price.
Not seeing any EA stuff on sale on the UK site, aside from the ME2/3 guidebooks (does anyone even buy them? Have they not heard of the internet?)

shaydeeadi
28-06-2012, 08:46 PM
You realise the 399 price is with no operating system?

Yep, already have disk with Win7 on.

Leopig
28-06-2012, 08:47 PM
Ok cool, I take it the key is unused?

shaydeeadi
28-06-2012, 08:50 PM
I take it you have no idea about the laptop then?

Ravelle
28-06-2012, 10:23 PM
Amazing 75% deal on the Warhammer Franchise on steam at the moment.

trjp
29-06-2012, 03:01 AM
I take it you have no idea about the laptop then?

I've fixed 100s of laptops and you want a laptop from a major manufacturer every time - because that's the only way you're going to be able to get

a - decent driver support/software support (esp with new OSes coming soon)
b - replacement parts (even if it's just a battery or a screen or a keyboard)

There are loads of companies that make laptops for other companies to 'brand' and so long as they end-up with a brand who have a proper website with downloadable drivers, a support database/forum and who sell a LOT of them (so spares are commonplace) it's not so bad (Dell used to do this, other brands like eMachines still do)

In this case tho, do you think Novatech will be supporting this laptop in 2 years time? Will you even be able to get a battery for it WHEN it dies in 12-18 months - do they even HAVE a support section (a quick look suggests not).

Even it's spec seems a bit odd - it has USB 3 sockets but a VGA output instead of HDMI - WOT!? Keyboard also looks nasty (and almost certainly hard to find a replacement for)

I'd move along if I were you - perhaps to the Dell Outlet which offers Inspiron 15Rs i3s with 525M GPUs for this sort of money - and i5 540s for a little more - you'll be able to get parts and drivers and stuff (and they even throw in Windows in most cases!!)

agentorange
29-06-2012, 03:54 AM
Question about Indie Gala bundle. Can I pay the $6.24 (or whatever the going average is?) after the secrets are revealed and still get them, or is it only for the people who paid during the first week.

Heliocentric
29-06-2012, 05:07 AM
Amazing 75% deal on the Warhammer Franchise on steam at the moment.

Anyone know, if I buy the complete bundle can I gift my doubles (all I need is chaos rising)

El Cubo
29-06-2012, 07:29 AM
Anyone know, if I buy the complete bundle can I gift my doubles (all I need is chaos rising)

Why would you do that? You don't save any money buying the bundle.

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Single player wise, is the Retribution worth buying? How's the campaign in it?

sabrage
29-06-2012, 07:40 AM
Why would you do that? You don't save any money buying the bundle.
Because he wants to do something nice for his friends? I think Retribution is pretty much multiplayer or bust.

Leopig
29-06-2012, 07:59 AM
Super Duper Street Fighter IV Arcade mega hyper turbo edition 6.24 (http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-SSF4AE/super-street-fighter-iv-arcade-edition)

(The one before SF v Tekken)

shaydeeadi
29-06-2012, 08:06 AM
Good points...

The website claims lifetime tech support and it does have a HDMI port, which I can't see myself using really as I want it for travelling about. The battery thing is valid though and looking through their page of batteries it isn't clear which is which, or which chassis the unit features to price up a replacement.

When I looked on Dell they looked (slightly) pricier, my job has offered me one of their Win7 keys since I will be using it away for work and sticking some of their software on there. I reserved one for collection but I will shop around further again to check, grabbing that was stretching my budget of 350 but having the GPU in there kinda swayed me to get it.

Heliocentric
29-06-2012, 08:19 AM
Why would you do that? You don't save any money buying the bundle.

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Single player wise, is the Retribution worth buying? How's the campaign in it?
No, but getting 2 giftable games for 2.50 is good.

And, yes retribution single player is substandard, playing as orks is funny enough to warrent trying it, but know this, the campaign is IDENTICAL for all sides, so there is no replay value.

corbain
29-06-2012, 08:19 AM
I've got a copy of the DOWII base game to gift to anyone who wants it. Send me a PM with your steam user name and a good joke.

Best joke wins.

Edit:

Alternatively, any convincing sob story about how you're in hospital recovering from major surgery, or that you work at an orphanage where the kids go to bed crying because they can't play DOWII

Dealine extended - midday GMT Saturday 30th June

Heliocentric
29-06-2012, 08:27 AM
I've got a copy of the DOWII base game to gift to anyone who wants it. Send me a PM with your steam user name and a good joke.

I'm assuming you bought gold?

El Cubo
29-06-2012, 08:31 AM
No, but getting 2 giftable games for 2.50 is good.

Well then, don't buy the bundle. Buy the gifts and the one you want to keep separately.

corbain
29-06-2012, 08:31 AM
I'm assuming you bought gold?

yes, and already got the base game. cost no extra to buy gold than the Chaos Rising standalone- both 4.99

Heliocentric
29-06-2012, 08:52 AM
Well then, don't buy the bundle. Buy the gifts and the one you want to keep separately.

Yeah, might have to do that, but saving money is nice.

El Cubo
29-06-2012, 09:03 AM
Yeah, might have to do that, but saving money is nice.

Oh, now I see. € prices were better than prices, so that there's no difference between the bundle and separate pieces in euromoney. Both of the earlier games are priced €2.5 in comparison to 5.

Heliocentric
29-06-2012, 11:50 AM
Oh, now I see. € prices were better than prices, so that there's no difference between the bundle and separate pieces in euromoney. Both of the earlier games are priced €2.5 in comparison to 5.


http://www.ivygateblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/cookie-monster-wtf-is-this-thumb-324x314-1553831.jpg

Kiril
29-06-2012, 12:05 PM
Big Amazon US Digital Sale coming up. These START on Sunday July 1st. NOT TODAY! (Unless you are reading this on Sunday)

1. Max Payne 3 - $29.99 (50% off) – This is the Steam version. 50% runs 7/1-7/4 (end of day 7/4) and will then be 33% off through 7/14


2. Spec Ops: The Line - $24.99 (50% off) – Steam activate-able – this will run from 7/1-7/14


3. Syndicate - $14.99 – Origin activate-able – this will run from 7/1-7/14


4. Bioshock Dual Pack (Bioshock 1 + 2) – $7.49 Steam activate-able – this will run from 7/1-7/14


5. X-Com Complete Pack – $2.99 - Steam activate-able – this will run from 7/1-7/14


6. The Darkness II - $12.49 – Steam activate-able – this will run from 7/1-7/14


7. Rockstar Classics Pack - $14.99 – Steam activate-able – this will run from 7/1-7/14


8. Crusader Kings II - $9.99 – Steam activate-able – this will run from 7/1-7/14


9.Plethora of Paradox Games - $19.99 containing (all Steam activateable) runs 7/1-7/7 still building page:
a. Crusader Kings II [Download]
b. Crusader Kings II: Dynasty Shields DLC Pack
c. Crusader Kings II: Mongols DLC Pack
d. Crusader Kings II: Ruler Designer DLC
e. Crusader Kings II: Songs of Albion DLC
f. Crusader Kings II: Songs of Faith DLC
g. Crusader Kings II: Songs of the Holy Land DLC
h. Magicka Collection [Download]
i. Magicka: The Stars Are Left DLC [Online Game Code]
j. Majesty Gold [Online Game Code]
k. Majesty 2 Collection
l. Victoria II [Online Game Code]
m.Warlock: Master of the Arcane [Download]


10. Plentiful Paradox Package - $12.49 (all are Steam activate-able) runs 7/1-7/7 contains:
a. Crusader Kings II [Download]
b. Magicka Collection [Download]
c. Magicka: The Stars Are Left DLC [Online Game Code]
d. Sword of the Stars - Complete Collection
e. Sword of the Stars II: Lords of Winter [Download]
f. Victoria II [Online Game Code]


11.Pint Sized Paradox bundle $7.49 (all steam activate-able) runs 7/1-7/7:
a. Crusader Kings II: Dynasty Shields DLC Pack
b. Crusader Kings II: Mongols DLC Pack
c. Crusader Kings II: Ruler Designer DLC
d. Crusader Kings II: Songs of Albion DLC
e. Crusader Kings II: Songs of Faith DLC
f. Crusader Kings II: Songs of the Holy Land DLC
g. Majesty Gold [Online Game Code]
h. Warlock: Master of the Arcane [Download]
i. Majesty 2 Collection


12.Borderlands: Game of the Year Edition - $7.49 (Steam activate-able) runs 7/1-7/14


13.Duke Nukem Complete Pack $7.99 (Steam activate-able) runs 7/1-7/14:
a.The base game - Duke Nukem Forever
b.The DLC Pack - Duke Nukem Forever Hail to the Icons Parody Pack DLC
c.And the DLC Pack - The Doctor Who Cloned Me DLC Pack


14. 2K Strategy Pack - $19.99 – runs 7/1-7/14
a. Sid Meier's Civilization V: Game of the Year Edition
b.Sid Meiers Civilization IV: The Complete Edition
c.The Stronghold Collection [Download]


15.2K Shooter Pack - $19.99 – runs 7/1-7/14
a.BioShock 2 [Download]
b.BioShock [Download]
c.Borderlands Game of the Year Edition [Download]
d.Duke Nukem Forever Complete Pack [Download]


16.2K Mega Pack - $39.99 – runs 7/1-7/14
a.BioShock 2 [Download]
b.BioShock [Download]
c.Borderlands Game of the Year Edition [Download]
d.CivCity: Rome [Download]
e.Duke Nukem Forever Complete Pack [Download]
f.Mafia II [Download]
g.Sid Meier's Civilization V: Game of the Year Edition [Download]
h.Sid Meiers Civilization IV: The Complete Edition [Download]
i. The Stronghold Collection [Download]


17.Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - $29.99 (50% off Steam activate-able) – runs 7/1-7/14

Little note about Pint Sized Paradox bundle - it was just really for those that got the paradox plentiful bundle early, and want the DLC and extra games, that why its just DLC and no crusader 2

*Update* Little note about Amazon Bundles. Each game is separate on Amazon, so when you buy a bundle you get a key for each game. So each item listed is its own key.

I have had no problem buying from them from outside of the US of A. The only game that had an issue activating on steam was Dead Island, and I used a VPN with no problems, some 6 months ago.

I have no experience of buying Origin games from them, but haven't heard any problems.

Again check the start date on the deal!

Sketch
29-06-2012, 12:22 PM
2. Spec Ops: The Line - $24.99 (50% off) – Steam activate-able – this will run from 7/1-7/14





Seriously?! What the hell.

baby snot
29-06-2012, 12:24 PM
Glad to see the Plentiful Paradox Package going live again. Do you get a Steam key for each game? Or is it one key for the whole pack?

Kiril
29-06-2012, 12:27 PM
Each game. Every game is separate on Amazon. So whenever you buy a pack, you get a key for each game in it.

Insidious Rex
29-06-2012, 12:28 PM
Wow can't believe that Spec Ops price, looks like my balance will take a hit come sunday

Heliocentric
29-06-2012, 01:11 PM
I think some of those titles (sword of the stars 1 for example) were reported as not being steam keys. can anyone confirm either way?

Kiril
29-06-2012, 01:14 PM
They got steam keys for Swords 1 after the first pack sale was so successful, and people asked for it. So if you buy the new pack, you get a steam key.

But in the first sale, they weren't, and there is no steam keys for previous buyers.

Heliocentric
29-06-2012, 01:20 PM
They got steam keys for Swords 1 after the first pack sale was so successful, and people asked for it. So if you buy the new pack, you get a steam key.

But in the first sale, they weren't, and there is no steam keys for previous buyers.
Ah, Sucks for them I guess.

jyden
29-06-2012, 03:44 PM
Bohemia (https://store.bistudio.com/) are having a Christmas Summer Sale with all games being discounted by 25 % - Including the upcoming ARMA 2 DLC.

SirKicksalot
29-06-2012, 07:27 PM
They got steam keys for Swords 1 after the first pack sale was so successful, and people asked for it. So if you buy the new pack, you get a steam key.

But in the first sale, they weren't, and there is no steam keys for previous buyers.

Just posted by the Amazon rep on NeoGAF:

I just got sign of from Paradox to re-issue Steam Keys via email for Victoria II and Sword of the Stars Complete Collection to everyone who purchased the original Plentiful Paradox Package.

We'll likely deliver these via email, since it is a Friday though it probably won't happen until early next week. I'm hoping to have emails out before the holiday though (4th of July).

Cheers,
Tony

Kiril
29-06-2012, 07:31 PM
Just posted by the Amazon rep on NeoGAF:

I just got sign of from Paradox to re-issue Steam Keys via email for Victoria II and Sword of the Stars Complete Collection to everyone who purchased the original Plentiful Paradox Package.

We'll likely deliver these via email, since it is a Friday though it probably won't happen until early next week. I'm hoping to have emails out before the holiday though (4th of July).

Cheers,
Tony

Just saw that on cheapassgames. That good news, that Tony guy is great. Amazon are really going out to get a foothold in the digital realm and I am pretty sure they know all about us dirty foreigners buying from them and don't want to stop us.

Winged Nazgul
29-06-2012, 07:32 PM
What about Europa Universalis III? Wasn't that also a non-Steam game?

Fredie007
29-06-2012, 08:47 PM
What about Europa Universalis III? Wasn't that also a non-Steam game?
Yeah, but that one wasn't included in the bundle and won't be in the new one that they're having next week.

Leopig
29-06-2012, 10:46 PM
Tera 50% off until tomorrow http://tera-europe.com/home.html 24 Euro, dont know what that is is , Although after playing for the first month the game seems to be dying already.

According to the currency converter I just used it is about 20. Some people on the Tera forums not happy considering a few weeks ago they paid full price.

Winged Nazgul
29-06-2012, 10:57 PM
Yeah, but that one wasn't included in the bundle and won't be in the new one that they're having next week.

Oh that's right. I got that a week after for free with the $16 off coupon.

makute
29-06-2012, 11:07 PM
I'm tempted with that Crusader Kings II at 10 bucks. I read good reviews, how is it compared with Medieval II + Stainless Steel +BGR IV?

I love detail and complexity.

Gnashy
29-06-2012, 11:47 PM
They got steam keys for Swords 1 after the first pack sale was so successful, and people asked for it. So if you buy the new pack, you get a steam key.

But in the first sale, they weren't, and there is no steam keys for previous buyers.

I got an email from Amazon an hour ago with my steam keys for Victoria II and Sword of the Stars Complete Collection.

Duckee
30-06-2012, 03:14 AM
I'm tempted with that Crusader Kings II at 10 bucks. I read good reviews, how is it compared with Medieval II + Stainless Steel +BGR IV?

I love detail and complexity.

Depends what you like about the Total War games. The battles or the grand strategy? If the latter, you will enjoy CK2 as long as you do not expect epic battles, but rather numbers and stats and a great deal more complexity.