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Ice-Fyre

23-12-2011, 05:26 PM

I'm thinking of getting Saints Row or Dirt 3 but I'm not sure how well my pc will play either.

Windows XP (yeah I know "get with the times etc etc)
Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
4.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz
MSI P67A-GD53
512MB ATI Radeon HD 5670

I've got £40.40 to last me the whole sale, so don't want to waste it on stuff that's gonna play crappy! Also I'm on a 15in monitor 1024x768, so won't be playing at a huge res...

Mac

23-12-2011, 05:39 PM

I'm thinking of getting Saints Row or Dirt 3 but I'm not sure how well my pc will play either.

Get Saints Row 3 from the Ubi site - they are selling it for ~£15 over the weekend and including the Season Pass
Dirt 3 is £7 at the Gamescollection

Ice-Fyre

23-12-2011, 05:45 PM

Get Saints Row 3 from the Ubi site - they are selling it for ~£15 over the weekend and including the Season Pass
Dirt 3 is £7 at the Gamescollection

One Problem with that, money was a gift so has gone in my steam wallet lol

Scumbag

23-12-2011, 05:45 PM

Just looked at the Railworks DLC prices total.

£1165.13
Jesus! Thats 50% off as well.

Sublett

23-12-2011, 05:48 PM

Lastly, Cave Story looks like it could be fun, but don't know anything about it. Any good?

I don't know if Cave Story is any good, but it looks nice! But I would suggest getting it from the Humble Indie Bundle instead.. :) Activates on Steam and you get it for the same price (if you pay minimum that is), PLUS you get a bunch of other games.

TimA

23-12-2011, 05:50 PM

Just looked at the Railworks DLC prices total.

£1165.13
Jesus! Thats 50% off as well.

There's a bundle of all the DLC packs, for 80% off, which works out at £199.

I like Railworks. It's not everyone's cup of tea, of course.

Scumbag

23-12-2011, 05:55 PM

There's a bundle of all the DLC packs, for 80% off, which works out at £199.

I like Railworks. It's not everyone's cup of tea, of course.

It looks intresting in a way, but I cant justify £200 for any one game regardless of the discount.

On the subject of it trying to filter through the mass of stuff there seems hell. Does it have any form of Korean or Japanese routes DLCs? Not too fussed about the UK or US lines tbh.

sopabuena

23-12-2011, 06:24 PM

Seconding the question about Back to the Future, I loved Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse and quite enjoyed Tales of Monkey Island and the other S&M seasons. But I didn't hear great things about BTTF, anyone played it?

Is Saints Row: The Third just 33% off today for everyone else? I think it has been discounted like that since the first day of the sale

vinraith

23-12-2011, 06:27 PM

Steam shows no evidence that E.Y.E. has ever been patched. I know it was more than a little rough at release, has it actually seen no post-release support?

Kadayi

23-12-2011, 06:51 PM

That's why I've refused to buy ME at all since it came out. Unless they put out a GOTY version or release the DLCs elsewhere, I'm not buying it. Not for 2 dollars.

It may be a gripping story, but so (and much better) are many books out there, eg. by Iain Banks, Vernor Vinge, Dan Simmons etc.

So you refused to buy a game because there is DLC for it? and people write Sci-fi books?

Revisor

23-12-2011, 06:59 PM

Has anyone here played EYE? It's daily today and I was thinking about picking it up.

And is it any good playing it single player?

Steam shows no evidence that E.Y.E. has ever been patched. I know it was more than a little rough at release, has it actually seen no post-release support?

E.Y.E is for me the surprise of 2011.

Let me put it this way, it's an unpolished bundle of awesomness.

The game lets you have awesome, and I mean awesome superpowers from the very beginning. And they get more awesome as you play (think jumping on houses, demon summoning, superspeed). This was a great feeling compared with all the other games that start you as a nobody and only slowly you gain power.

It's pretty unforgiving and doesn't hold your hand (look at forums/wikis).
It's hardcore cyberpunk on Earth where no known languages and society exist anymore.
It has an interesting story told just by-the-way, with comic translation.

That all adds up to its great charm. Even more so if you realize how ambitious this small team of I guess just 8 people was.

I played only single player, only tried MP a few times but then new games came.
It was heavily and in a very quick succession patched after release, the devs have supported the game.
Don't know about now as I don't follow it anymore.

All in all I recommend E.Y.E highly if you go in with an open mind. You'll either enjoy it immensely (like I did) or you will think it's a really interesting turd. And you'll support devs that are bound to create something highly ambitious and interesting.

Revisor

23-12-2011, 07:01 PM

So you refused to buy a game because there is DLC for it? and people write Sci-fi books?

Thank you for twisting my words, kind sir.
I haven't bought ME because there is only one place to buy and experience the whole fragmented story.
And there has never been any GOTY edition that would offer a whole bundle.

You're free to disagree but you won't change my decision.
Peace.

Vague-rant

23-12-2011, 07:04 PM

What about the Back to the Future games? I liked the first seasons of Sam & Max (never played the last one). I found the monkey island games somewhat lacklustre.

I'm the opposite. Really like Monkey Island, didn't like any of the 7 Sam and Max episodes I tried. Which is Back to the future more like?

Also, I'd rather get it off the Telltale site directly, for approximately the same price, but less DRM (I don't have a GamersGate account and I don't think I could handle another password/username)- plus I like to think I'll one day order the free DVDs.

SirKicksalot

23-12-2011, 07:06 PM

I bought E.Y.E. Jim Sterling likes it!

Vandelay

23-12-2011, 07:33 PM

Get Saints Row 3 from the Ubi site - they are selling it for ~£15 over the weekend and including the Season Pass

You might have better luck at the THQ store ;)

Bought and it adds to Steam too. Make sure you untick the extended download option, which is completely pointless if you want to add to Steam.

Althea

23-12-2011, 07:34 PM

Bought and it adds to Steam too. Make sure you untick the extended download option, which is completely pointless if you want to add to Steam.
You don't have much choice, it's a Steamworks game.

vinraith

23-12-2011, 08:29 PM

@Revisor

Thanks for the answer there, sounds like it probably worth a punt at that price, especially as a potentially fun co-op game.

archonsod

23-12-2011, 08:32 PM

It looks intresting in a way, but I cant justify £200 for any one game regardless of the discount.

Be somewhat pointless anyway, unless you absolutely love all types of train, routes across the world and insist on having virtually every livery ever used by a major railway company available. Plus having all the DLC active at the same time would cause the game to crash.

On the subject of it trying to filter through the mass of stuff there seems hell. Does it have any form of Korean or Japanese routes DLCs? Not too fussed about the UK or US lines tbh.

Not in the official DLC, but you could check the mod sites or third party stuff. Closest I found on a cursory search was a tramline:
http://www.uktrainsim.com/filelib-info.php?form_fileid=23391

Scumbag

23-12-2011, 08:45 PM

Be somewhat pointless anyway, unless you absolutely love all types of train, routes across the world and insist on having virtually every livery ever used by a major railway company available. Plus having all the DLC active at the same time would cause the game to crash.

Not in the official DLC, but you could check the mod sites or third party stuff. Closest I found on a cursory search was a tramline:
http://www.uktrainsim.com/filelib-info.php?form_fileid=23391

Ah cheers for that. Was hopeing for a Shinkensen or Tokyo / Kyoto local service type thing.

vinraith

23-12-2011, 09:07 PM

You know, I'd be a lot more inclined to jump through a hoop or two for their "pile of gift" stuff if:

1) The prizes didn't almost universally suck.

2) The inventory wasn't constantly broken.

I suppose I should be thankful, really, in that this is keeping me from becoming typically obsessive about pursuing these things.

Vandelay

23-12-2011, 09:17 PM

1) The prizes didn't almost universally suck.

Not exactly true, as you can win a lot of games, even ones that have been released in the last a couple of months. The chances of actually winning one of those seems to be incredibly slime, but they certainly don't "universally suck."

Give you the other one though.

hariseldon

23-12-2011, 09:30 PM

Gotta be honest, Steam sale's been a little disappointing this year, nowhere near last year's levels of temptation and reckless spending.

Althea

23-12-2011, 09:54 PM

Gotta be honest, Steam sale's been a little disappointing this year, nowhere near last year's levels of temptation and reckless spending.
Definitely. I think with Skyrim and a lot of other big releases recently, as well as the more popular indies being perpetually thrown at the feet of those who splurge on the Humble bundles, people either don't have the time or they have the titles anyway. Add in competition in a big style this year from GamersGate, and people are either taking their money elsewhere or - more likely due to current circumstances - are being a bit more careful. The fact that the deals are largely rubbish or are on titles people already own doesn't help, either.

That said, I picked up Dungeons of Dredmor + Realm of the Diggle Gods today (I know they were a daily a few weeks ago - impulse buy) out of sheer desperation, and actually it turns out to be a pretty good game. I wasn't expecting anything much, but I've been charmed by it very quickly. I can see it getting annoying down the line, but I think I just need to tweak some things or play around with the settings for combat/movement.

So those two items and the latest two Sanctum maps (Caverns & Slums) make up my sale purchases thus far.

Holy crap, all I've bought are indies. This is most unexpected.

hariseldon

23-12-2011, 09:56 PM

Yeah I bought Dredmor too and have been surprised at how much fun it is, but in deal terms, it was never that pricey and the deal isn't significantly better than those that have gone before.

Althea

23-12-2011, 10:04 PM

Yeah I bought Dredmor too and have been surprised at how much fun it is, but in deal terms, it was never that pricey and the deal isn't significantly better than those that have gone before.
I paid about £2.80 compared to the ~£1.40 it was a day or two ago, but really, it's already given me that in value. I was expecting something overly complex and horrible, but really it's great. I digress, though.

The way I'm seeing the Steam sale this year is that it's likely going to be good for indies and smaller titles as long as you haven't got them yet from indie bundles, other sales and so on. I'm predicting Terraria will drop to £1.50 (i.e. 75% off as opposed to the £3 w/ 50% off that it is now) as an example, maybe Super Meat Boy/Binding of Isaac too to £1.50 and £1 respectively, as that would seem in-line with what we've seen so far. Magicka will most likely appear again too, if it hasn't already (I don't think it has), and I can see that being one of the must-get deals for some people, and I'll be surprised if Dungeon Defenders doesn't make an appearance.

Matzerath

23-12-2011, 10:12 PM

I've only purchased a few things I wanted at extreme discounts -- SPAZ, for instance -- and haven't bought anything solely to gain contest achievements. I have played the games I happened to already own, though, gaining the achievements fair and square without resorting to posted save files or the like. It was through this that I overcame my fear of SpaceChem, and made it to the end of the second planet, even after what I considered the brain-melting task of linking atoms expanded into a multi-factory conveyer line meta-madness. Now I feel smart. But I still can't see what the hell I won.

sabrage

23-12-2011, 10:21 PM

The best deals I've gotten have been in collaboration with strangers... 4-packs, trades and gifts. Which, I suppose, is the real benefit to the way that Valve is running the sale this year. The three games I've gotten have been Renegade Ops+DLC (but that was an Amazon deal,) Defense Grid+DLC and Avadon, which I'm not entirely convinced I'll enjoy..

vinraith

23-12-2011, 11:31 PM

Not exactly true, as you can win a lot of games, even ones that have been released in the last a couple of months. The chances of actually winning one of those seems to be incredibly slime, but they certainly don't "universally suck."

Give you the other one though.

There's an "almost" in there for a reason. The odds of getting a non-shit gift are quite nearly zero, no matter how many obnoxious achievements you collect.

Matzerath

23-12-2011, 11:56 PM

Vandelay

24-12-2011, 12:04 AM

There's an "almost" in there for a reason. The odds of getting a non-shit gift are quite nearly zero, no matter how many obnoxious achievements you collect.

Fair enough. Just wasn't sure if you realised that free games were also being given away.

And I agree that this sale has been fairly underwhelming compared to previous sales. From Steam, the only game I have picked up is Orcs Must Die. If I had heard that Rage worked well on Ati cards now, I might get that too, but unlikely after I have picked up Saint's Row 3 elsewhere.

Games I am really holding out for now are Sonic Generation and Dead Island. There might be a couple of others I will grab, but there is nothing else I am that desperate for.

Similar

24-12-2011, 12:36 AM

So my inventory came back up and I had seven coal and two poopie coupons. I stared at the crafting button for a while, then said 'Fuck it' and pressed it.
Free copy of Hard Reset. I don't own it already. Hurrah.
(Your mileage may vary.)
Indeed. For my seven coal I got a 50% off Apox coupon, which I haven't heard about but which has a metascore of 48. And which is currently 75% off too...

Anthile

24-12-2011, 12:39 AM

I only bought games from my hidden games-I-always-wanted-to-buy-but never-got-around-to list: Alternativa, EYE, Hard Reset, Orcs Must Die, Defense Grid, Sequence and Psychonauts. I'm theoretically still interested in Rage and AssBro but I doubt they will drop down to acceptable prices.
I also did no less than 18 achievements and besides Portal 1, I only got crappy coupons. In my opinion Valve have really dropped the ball with this treasure hunt. I'd rather have it like back during the summer sale with semi-exclusive DLC and trinkets that, y'know, actually do something besides radiating disappointment and causing envy because of that-guy who ended up with Skyrim or Arkham City instead of Lumberjack Simulator 2002.
I mean, it's free stuff and all that but I cannot shake that immense feeling of meh when I get yet another coupon for a game I have never even heard of.

Oshada

24-12-2011, 03:47 AM

I got a 33% off Skyrim coupon from the Frozen Synapse achievement. Anyone want it? PM, or add me on Steam (Trioxhydre)

Roufuss

24-12-2011, 05:43 AM

It took 16 achievements but I finally got a free game -- Quake 4. I don't own it, I enjoyed what I played years ago and its free so it works out.

So far, I've bought:

Sherlock Holmes Collection (I have wanted to try out the Jack the Ripper and the Cthulhu game for ages.. for $1 more, I just bought all six games in the set)
Payday (which was surprisingly good)
Defense Grid DLC
Chantelise
Tropico 4
Costume Quest
Dredmor DLC
Red Orchestra 2
Bunch of Heroes

I don't really anticipate a lot more this year, unless Anno or HOMM VI go on sale.

Flint

24-12-2011, 05:59 AM

Ice-Fyre

24-12-2011, 08:59 AM

Colonel J

24-12-2011, 10:13 AM

I'm hoping Left 4 Dead 2 is on offer tonight as it was £3.74 a couple of weeks back, but it's £7.49 at the moment. Same with Magicka that was £4.99 for the complete one but £7.99 now, unless there has been more DLC for it since the 16th to bump the price up...

I got an unwanted L4D2 for a Gift Pile achievement last night, want to trade? Find me here http://steamcommunity.com/id/Colonel_J

Roufuss

24-12-2011, 10:36 AM

I know I've said it before, but people who use other's save files to game the system and instantly unlock the achievements and gifts should be barred from getting anything.

Its annoying when the winter wiki someone created just lists save files everyone can download rather than a legit method. Cmon, have some pride, earn this stuff yourself.

hamster

24-12-2011, 12:01 PM

Excellent idea! Now I don't have to slog through frozen synapse.

Ice-Fyre

24-12-2011, 12:06 PM

I got an unwanted L4D2 for a Gift Pile achievement last night, want to trade? Find me here http://steamcommunity.com/id/Colonel_J

I've only got 4 coal and 2 crappy coupons :-(

apricotsoup

24-12-2011, 12:51 PM

I've now gotten 14 coal and 2 coupons, both stacks of coal crafted into 10% off coupons for 2k and valve.

I know I shouldn't expect anything but it is annoying :D

Roufuss

24-12-2011, 01:03 PM

I've now gotten 14 coal and 2 coupons, both stacks of coal crafted into 10% off coupons for 2k and valve.

I know I shouldn't expect anything but it is annoying :D

Keep trying! It took until my 17th achievement to finally get a coupon for a game.

Scumbag

24-12-2011, 01:10 PM

Hmm, got -50% off the X Superbox as a present from the Audiosurf achievement. Not so massively interested of it myself but seems like a good enough deal to hand over to someone else.

EYEing at the EYE deal but I'm one of those people who feels miffed when he makes a bad purchase even when it's for small pennies, and the game's rather mixed reception is making me really wary of it. It sounds amazing in theory and the screenshots look really good but the idea of all that having been done by a small indie team who might have bitten more than they can chew is very offputting. I'm not really a person who can see through big design wonks in favour of the grand scheme and Precursors, which people have compared this with, really didn't grab me because of said wonks despite the rather interesting setting and such.

If I were to throw a major critisim towards EYE at this point in time its the inacessability. The game piles on lines and lines of text to explain as to whats going on, just most of what is included is badly translated and rather haphazardly told. Imagine the Story sections of STALKER, just a darn site more wooly and without any real voice acting to speak of. I'm 5 hours in and only roughly understand whats going on.
Also the tutorials are only a page of videos that give quick text descriptions of how to do things. There are set tutor NPCs in the game, but they just tell you to open the tutorial menu and you have to manually search for the subject in question.

Lastly the RPG parts of the game are slightly murky. They are not bad persay, they are just rather badly explained by the tutorials so a lot of what is actually happening you have to muddle your way through. As a comparison point the game is kind of like Borderlands, but Borderlands is WoW / Diablo in its RPGness, EYE is more mass menus of the original Fallout but a little less clear.

Bar that I'd actually rate this as one of the best releases this year. For all the faffing about its got a lot going for it both in terms of depth and intresting shootieness.

Ice-Fyre

24-12-2011, 05:04 PM

Skyrim looks tempting lol

Miker

24-12-2011, 05:05 PM

I've got no interest in buying Skyrim at $40, so today's deals are an utter bust for me.

hariseldon

24-12-2011, 05:19 PM

Nice that Skyrim's on sale, but a disappointing discount. So far this Steam sale has been much much kinder on my wallet than last year's one.

Zetetic

24-12-2011, 06:06 PM

What's Wings of Prey like? I tend towards the arcade in my pilot skills, so a game that agrees with that...

Flint

24-12-2011, 06:10 PM

Well, all the "will I/won't I" confusion about EYE had have just become pointless - a friend randomly gifted it for me!

Miker

24-12-2011, 06:12 PM

I think, besides Skyrim, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory is one of the best deals of the day at $2.50.

vinraith

24-12-2011, 06:16 PM

Nice that Skyrim's on sale, but a disappointing discount. So far this Steam sale has been much much kinder on my wallet than last year's one.

Gamersgate's been doing me much more harm, actually. Arkham City, Patrician 4 Gold, MoW: Vietnam, those guys are on fire.

All I've bought from Steam this year has been E.Y.E. and the latest Defense Grid DLC.

SirKicksalot

24-12-2011, 06:40 PM

What's Wings of Prey like? I tend towards the arcade in my pilot skills, so a game that agrees with that...

You can set it up to be as arcade or sim-like as you want. I'm a total flying noob and still greatly enjoy the game. Works just fine with the 360 controller.

Ice-Fyre

24-12-2011, 07:00 PM

What's prototype like? I've skipped on Saints Row 3 till the summer.

Giaddon

24-12-2011, 07:08 PM

Ultra violent murder kill brawler set in a generic New York. I liked it for the crazy superpowers.

CrinnyCow

24-12-2011, 07:21 PM

Anyone have any thoughts on Hard Reset for 5 bucks? I'd like to buy it to support the idea but I'm curious about replayability and content. I played the demo and enjoyed it but if the game is just the demo over and over, then I'm not interested.

soldant

24-12-2011, 07:27 PM

What's Wings of Prey like? I tend towards the arcade in my pilot skills, so a game that agrees with that...
Arcade by default, even in the "sim" modes it still leans towards the arcade style. Lot of fun, I'd recommend it for the cheap price.

Althea

24-12-2011, 08:16 PM

Picked up Renegade Ops w/ Coldstrike (so I could get the holiday achievement).

I got to that achievement and quit, and in the near future I'll go back to it from the start as it's really... uh... something you need to probably start off easy with and then get harder. The controls are really strange, IMHO.

MaxNormal

24-12-2011, 08:51 PM

What's Wings of Prey like? I tend towards the arcade in my pilot skills, so a game that agrees with that...

I played this a bit yesterday - the Yuplay thing is the most frustrating experience I've had with a steam install as it simply does not work out of the box. Once I added the wings of prey multiplayer key via the yuplay webstore in my browser then things finally started to work. The game itself was pretty fun - select generic gamepad if you have an X360 pad. Arcade settings are the default -hit planes a few times and they explode / trail away with plumes of black smoke quite satisfyingly.

The JG Man

24-12-2011, 10:35 PM

50% off Puzzle Agent 2 coupon. WOOoooo...hmmm.

My recommendations for today:
Borderlands GOTY.
Fantastic FPS. Linear, but enjoyable to play, albeit simple. The guns are a pleasure, especially the more ridiculous ones.
Renegade Ops.
Get if you like blowing shit up.

sabrage

24-12-2011, 10:41 PM

I played quite a bit of Borderlands co-op and my friend and I wandered into a higher-level area inadvertently. We then proceeded to die a ridiculous number of times due to the fact that the enemies literally took dozens of headshots to kill. We wasted all our ammo and wiped several times, resulting in losing all our money too. It was one of the most frustrating and terrible experiences I've ever had with a game, and I don't see myself ever playing it again. (there was no clear signposting that we were in an area we shouldn't be; we made it about halfway through and then just didn't have the resources to continue)

apricotsoup

24-12-2011, 11:52 PM

A fairly good roundup of games today, on top of what others have said.

Prototype, very good fun but the port is fairly poor (bad graphical options and some areas such as vehicles handle horrifically).
Blood bowl is turn based persistent campaign lovelyness but the single player isn't worth a damn, it's definitely best played in a private league. I've successfully run small leagues with people from my work but I hear very good things about the RPS league.

Prize wise I'm up to 19 achievements and still no games (17 coal and 3 coupons, both coal upgrades crafted into coupons D: ).

Roufuss

25-12-2011, 08:40 AM

I wouldn't recommend Renegade Ops to anyone unless you had a gamepad -- and the game only supports Xbox 360 controllers at that.

Keyboard controls are beyond horrible.

sabrage

25-12-2011, 10:09 AM

I wouldn't recommend Renegade Ops to anyone unless you had a gamepad -- and the game only supports Xbox 360 controllers at that.

Keyboard controls are beyond horrible.
Did you try turning "tank controls" on? (I have and used a 360 controller myself, so I can't speak to how much better it is)

Roufuss

25-12-2011, 01:31 PM

Did you try turning "tank controls" on? (I have and used a 360 controller myself, so I can't speak to how much better it is)

Nah, but I doubt I'll play it again with the keyboard as I'm getting a 360 pad in the next few days.. too many PC games seem to require one for the best experience these days (or outright just aren't compatible with anything else.)

Only thing for purchase for me today is the Jamestown DLC and that soundtrack.. that soundtrack is glorious and the game itself is amazing as well (not to mention having beautiful hand drawn graphics.) Scratch that, forgot I got the soundtrack from HIB 4, so just the DLC for me!

Rumor has it too that today is going to be a repeat sale of sorts, due to games like Costume Quest, Psychonauts and Cave Story+ having achievements that can only be gotten on Christmas.

I'm willing to bet then that the other Christmas achievements will be free to play games or games that won't see more of a discount.

Roufuss

26-12-2011, 05:17 AM

No one interested in today's sales?

Atom Zombie Smasher is great for $2.50 and has a lot of modding options, both in-game and out.

Ice-Fyre

26-12-2011, 05:36 AM

I picked up Batman last night and I'm still thinking about Fallout 3

apricotsoup

26-12-2011, 10:56 AM

If people are looking at the X superbox, it's half price (in the UK at least) on GG
http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-XSB/x-superbox-bundle

Savy gamer says that it will register on steam.

The JG Man

26-12-2011, 04:51 PM

EDIT: Reading from NeoGAF:

It seems that someone might've slipped up a little early:
Bulletstorm is 75% off, down to £7.50. (US is $5, with the Euro, the equivalent is 3x that!)
Bastion 66% off.
Sonic Generations 66% off down to £6.67 (I think). - If you like Sonic, be it old or new, buy this as it was practically made for you to enjoy. Other platformer enthuthiasts can easily enjoy it because it's a solid title too. Definite controller pad recommendation.

Worms Franchise 75% off.
Red Faction franchise 75% off.
Rock of Ages 75% off.
Far Cry franchise 75% off.
Anomaly: Warzone Earth 75% off.
King's Bount 75% off.
Beat Hazard 75% off.

Flint

26-12-2011, 05:00 PM

Yeah Sonic Generations is pretty much absolutely amazing and should be bought by anyone who enjoys amazing platforming action.

I think I might salvage Bastion.

The JG Man

26-12-2011, 05:04 PM

Test Drive Unlimited 2 66% to £5.09.
Game of Thrones Genesis 50% off to £15.

Worth noting that the stock price of RF: Armageddon is only £15, meaning on sale it's £3.74!!

EDIT: For impressions on Sonic Generations, there's a 'WTF is...', Giant Bomb quick look and also our thread (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?2011-Sonic-Generations&highlight=sonic+generations) where we all pretty much say how much we enjoy it. Don't rule this one out just because Sonic sucked. He did, he no longer does. What I'm saying is, if you buy this and like it, it sends a great impression back to Sega to continue making good Sonic games.

Flint

26-12-2011, 05:23 PM

(Sonic never sucked)

Miker

26-12-2011, 05:23 PM

Wow, Steam really rolled out the big guns today with Sonic Generations. Also, I'm a bit pissed off at Bulletstorm being on sale, as I thought it wouldn't be on sale so I traded Portal 2 + 6 coal for it. A bit of a poor trade now that it's on sale for $5.

Also, JG Man, question about Sonic Generations: if my computer isn't all that great (E8400, GTX 260) and from what I've seen, I can only muster about 30 fps average. I'm a firm believer in playing fast-paced games (shooters, racers) at 60 fps, so would it be better to wait until I upgrade my PC come Black Friday next year, or will a somewhat unstable framerate be okay for Sonic?

Rauten

26-12-2011, 05:27 PM

I think I might salvage Bastion. No. You won't salvage Bastion. You will purchase it, enjoy it, and afterwards proclaim Logan Cunningham as the true herald of the second coming of Christ (Why yes, I loved the game's narration, why do you ask?)

The JG Man

26-12-2011, 05:29 PM

Flint

26-12-2011, 05:31 PM

No. You won't salvage Bastion. You will purchase it, enjoy it, and afterwards proclaim Logan Cunningham as the true herald of the second coming of Christ (Why yes, I loved the game's narration, why do you ask?)
Well okay. I'm going to purchase it... once Steam stops having a hissyfit and stops crashing whenever I try to initiate the purchasing.

Icarus

26-12-2011, 05:42 PM

Which of the Red Faction games are worth playing?

The JG Man

26-12-2011, 05:45 PM

Guerilla, as it's a fantastic open world sandboxy type thing of fun proportions.
Armageddon is linear and drops a few elements, but is still generally considered to be a good game, just a wrong direction for the franchise to go in. The money's on Guerilla, but if you like guided games, Armageddon may also be for you.

vinraith

26-12-2011, 05:45 PM

Which of the Red Faction games are worth playing?

Guerilla, full stop.

To everyone: How's Test Drive 2 Unlimited, and what do they mean by "co-op" exactly?

Miker

26-12-2011, 05:46 PM

Well the console version is playable at 30fps, so take from that as you will, but it's a punishing engine. The fact is though, it'll be fun if you play it now or if you play it later, and it's not like there's an online community to dwindle. It will also only get cheaper or as cheap, and it's not exactly a bad price not on sale either. I would say wait if you're really worried, alternatively buy it now, try it and then if it doesn't work, play it when you can.

I think I'll get it, if only because my lady friend ooh-ed and ahh-ed nonstop at the 360 demo. I'm more worried about a fluctuating framerate than 30 fps (I hear there are nasty FPS drops in the Chemical Zone), honestly, but I guess I'll live.

Icarus

26-12-2011, 05:50 PM

Guerilla it is, thanks gents.

FunnyB

26-12-2011, 05:50 PM

Today, I'm thinking about two games... Bastion, which looks very fun and interesting...

And the other.... Hello again, Far Cry 2.... I've been in this situation before at other steam sales....
I've tried this game before, found it to be both interesting with the open world design and rather good gunplay, but hated the checkpoints filled with overzealous soldiers and the sometimes poor missions. Plus, it has securom with a 5 machine limit, something that always makes me a wee bit wary after all the horror stories you've heard on the net.
So, what are your opinions on Far Cry 2 here at the forum? Is it a buy or a no-buy?

Kadayi

26-12-2011, 05:51 PM

Which of the Red Faction games are worth playing?

Guerrilla was pretty entertaining. I'd give it a thumbs up, esp at that price.

Well okay. I'm going to purchase it... once Steam stops having a hissyfit and stops crashing whenever I try to initiate the purchasing.

Might be all right now, but it was getting hammered for sure when the new offers came in. I couldn't login for a bit so to be on the safe side changed my password etc. Today's purchases TDU2 and Alice madness returns. I quite like the fact that they've introduced this period of overlap between the offers.

So, what are your opinions on Far Cry 2 here at the forum? Is it a buy or a no-buy?

By on large you can avoid the re-spawning checkpoints by using the waterways in a skiff Rambo style (boats available to the north end of the safe zone iirc), however I think after a while the missions tend to get very samey (everyone hates your guts, even the people you're working for). I got through the first act (about 40%) and lost enthusiasm. Lovely looking, but not compelling.

Spider Jerusalem

26-12-2011, 05:52 PM

armageddon is worth playing for the magnet gun.

The JG Man

26-12-2011, 05:59 PM

I think I'll get it, if only because my lady friend ooh-ed and ahh-ed nonstop at the 360 demo. I'm more worried about a fluctuating framerate than 30 fps (I hear there are nasty FPS drops in the Chemical Zone), honestly, but I guess I'll live.

As it goes, a patch just game out and other than obviously supporting the Casino Night pinball zone DLC, it apparently smoothens out some of the rougher FPS drops. The rest of the game is fairly consistent.

Okay, so I'll be getting RF:Armageddon and...I'm thinking about Bastion. May need to do more research on it, like finding out what the hell it is.

hariseldon

26-12-2011, 06:00 PM

Sonic has been purchased. For anyone undecided on Bastion, I'd say it's well worth the entrance fee. You'll have a blast.

Rauten

26-12-2011, 06:17 PM

I'm thinking about Bastion. May need to do more research on it, like finding out what the hell it is.

It's a hack&slash with isometric view. Very linear, no gear hunting, but incredibly colourful. And during the whole game, the narrator's voice follows you.
If you see the trailer on Steam, that's the voice. It's not a standard narrator as in "then the hero grabbed the sword and cut the foes", but more like "He finds his lifelong friend. It's a.... 'touching' reunion." "Kid just rages for a while." And it's very reactive, it doesn't narrate events quite as they happen, but rather, as you make them happen.

Flint

26-12-2011, 06:23 PM

Yep, finally got myself Bastion. And with my self-imposed spending limit on this year's sales, I think I'm done for this Christmas season. Got the Dredmor DLC, Psychonauts, EYE, Bastion + King's Bounty: The Legend from a daily sale a week before the Christmas ones and Alpha Centauri from GOG sales, so should have some games to last for a while now. Unless Darksiders goes silly-low on price, I think I'll just watch things unfurl from now on without spending any more.

Ice-Fyre

26-12-2011, 06:29 PM

What's Fallout 3 like, still not sure weather to pick it up...

Faldrath

26-12-2011, 06:32 PM

To everyone: How's Test Drive 2 Unlimited, and what do they mean by "co-op" exactly?

TDU2 is fun, but the driving model is kind of an acquired taste. By "co-op", they mean you can be in the same car as someone else and give him directions he may or may not follow. That's as interesting as it sounds.

But it's a nice open-world game, lots of stuff to collect. Abandoned by the developers, though, and it has Securom, so yeah.

Flint

26-12-2011, 06:41 PM

What's Fallout 3 like, still not sure weather to pick it up...
Pretty dire. Get New Vegas instead, it's what F3 should've been like and a genuinely great game.

vinraith

26-12-2011, 06:49 PM

What's Fallout 3 like, still not sure weather to pick it up...

With Fallout Wanderer's Edition it's a fairly brilliant wasteland survival game. It's been unfortunately shoe-horned into the Fallout story line, but a lot of that stuff is pretty ignorable, and it provides an enormous and interesting world to explore. In some ways I like it considerably more thn New Vegas' more plot-driven and quest-heavy experience. It's going to depend on your individual tastes (and your attachment to Fallout history) which you like more. Both are very much worth playing IMO, but I've actually put more time into FO3.

Xercies

26-12-2011, 06:49 PM

Fallout 3 is a really great game, loved the feel of the world and it made me optimistic about bethesda after the horrible Oblivion. It made me feel like i was a desperate survivor in a post apocolyptic world, plus some fo the quests are brilliant. Don't listen to the naysayers its a great game.

Do I need a controller to enjoy sonic genrations fully?

vinraith

26-12-2011, 06:50 PM

TDU2 is fun, but the driving model is kind of an acquired taste. By "co-op", they mean you can be in the same car as someone else and give him directions he may or may not follow. That's as interesting as it sounds.

But it's a nice open-world game, lots of stuff to collect. Abandoned by the developers, though, and it has Securom, so yeah.

Bummer. It sounds like it was rich with potential but never really rose to it. Eh, probably a pass then, especially considering how much great stuff I got for Xmas.

The JG Man

26-12-2011, 06:52 PM

Do I need a controller to enjoy sonic genrations fully?

Almost certainly, unfortunately (I think the game shows 360 button prompts even without the controller...). But think! If you didn't have one before and you get one now, you'll be supported for a heck of a lot of games along with many more to come. They'll probably be on sale now too.

EDIT: I just want to point out, currently, Sonic Generations is second only to MW3 as the Top Seller in the UK. See, this is what a great price point and word of mouth can do.

Ice-Fyre

26-12-2011, 07:02 PM

With Fallout Wanderer's Edition it's a fairly brilliant wasteland survival game. It's been unfortunately shoe-horned into the Fallout story line, but a lot of that stuff is pretty ignorable, and it provides an enormous and interesting world to explore. In some ways I like it considerably more thn New Vegas' more plot-driven and quest-heavy experience. It's going to depend on your individual tastes (and your attachment to Fallout history) which you like more. Both are very much worth playing IMO, but I've actually put more time into FO3.

Well I've never played the old Fallout's so it won't be judged in that sense. I think I'll go buy it!

Thanks for the replies everyone

Wizardry

26-12-2011, 07:09 PM

Pretty dire. Get New Vegas instead, it's what F3 should've been like and a genuinely great game.
Van Buren.

Flint

26-12-2011, 07:11 PM

Sorry for forgetting that, unfortunately I live in a dimension where that game was cancelled years ago and is thus irrelevant in terms of games that actually exist and use the F3 moniker.

Wizardry

26-12-2011, 07:13 PM

Sorry for forgetting that, unfortunately I live in a dimension where that game was cancelled years ago and is thus irrelevant in terms of games that actually exist and use the F3 moniker.
And I live in a dimension in which New Vegas doesn't use the Fallout 3 moniker.

Flint

26-12-2011, 07:15 PM

Hence it's what F3 should have been, not what F3 is.

Wizardry

26-12-2011, 07:15 PM

Hence it's what F3 should have been, not what F3 is.
Hence why Van Buren is what F3 should have been, not what F3 is.

Xercies

26-12-2011, 09:25 PM

Almost certainly, unfortunately (I think the game shows 360 button prompts even without the controller...). But think! If you didn't have one before and you get one now, you'll be supported for a heck of a lot of games along with many more to come. They'll probably be on sale now too.

Eh probably skip it then and get it for cheaper on the console. I think controllers for windows are a bit expensive now a days and i can't really bring myself to spend that much...

Rauten

26-12-2011, 09:27 PM

Soo... F3 should have been a nonexistent game?

Althea

26-12-2011, 09:28 PM

Eh probably skip it then and get it for cheaper on the console. I think controllers for windows are a bit expensive now a days and i can't really bring myself to spend that much...[/COLOR][/LEFT]
I think they're useful to have around. I dropped £25 for my black 360 controller, and over the year I've had it I've gotten a fair bit of use from it.

sabrage

26-12-2011, 09:32 PM

Eh probably skip it then and get it for cheaper on the console. I think controllers for windows are a bit expensive now a days and i can't really bring myself to spend that much...[/COLOR][/LEFT]
If you're getting it for the console, you already have a PC controller.

Scumbag

27-12-2011, 12:47 AM

I think they're useful to have around. I dropped £25 for my black 360 controller, and over the year I've had it I've gotten a fair bit of use from it.

Seconded on 360 controlers. Very good, sturdy pads IMO and works almost instantly when you plug it into a windows PC without a hitch (theoretically). Truth be told preaty much any USB based controler can be used on PC with a bit of tweeking.

Roufuss

27-12-2011, 09:47 AM

If you're getting it for the console, you already have a PC controller.

Not if you've got a wireless controller, and nothing to hook it to the PC with =/

sabrage

27-12-2011, 10:34 AM

Bluetooth receivers are cheap; if you have a wireless Xbox controller there are solutions, but they cost about the same as a new wired one.

Xercies

27-12-2011, 10:37 AM

Well last night I was going to try and get my PS3 controller working but then I realized I probably forgot it and its all the way in wales. Arse!

Flint

27-12-2011, 05:14 PM

My latest price grab: a -50% voucher for Steel Storm: Burning Retribution 4-pack. Never even heard of the game and the Metacritic score is 55. WINNING.

My pick of the day this time would be the various Star Wars things you can find from the franchise sale. KOTOR is a great RPG, the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games are solid shooters and while I've not played it myself, Republic Commando seems to have a bit of a cult classic reputation. Bound to find something there.

sabrage

27-12-2011, 05:31 PM

Need opinions: Is Gothic Complete worth my time/money? Try not to spoil too much ("go warrior if you want to steamroll the game") please

Oh, also, I own KOTOR on Xbox but my sister spoiled the plot twist for me years ago and I could never bring myself to replay it (I didn't get too far.) How much better is the PC version?

Kodeen

27-12-2011, 05:41 PM

Need opinions: Is Gothic Complete worth my time/money? Try not to spoil too much ("go warrior if you want to steamroll the game") please

I'd say getting the complete pack is contingent on whether or not you want to get Gothic 1, which isn't sold seperately. I definitely would not play Forsaken Gods, it is awful. Arcania is rather 'meh', not terrible but not terribly fun. Haven't played Fall of Seratiff, but I assume it's just more of the same Arcania gameplay.

savagerose

27-12-2011, 05:59 PM

I'd say getting the complete pack is contingent on whether or not you want to get Gothic 1, which isn't sold seperately. I definitely would not play Forsaken Gods, it is awful. Arcania is rather 'meh', not terrible but not terribly fun. Haven't played Fall of Seratiff, but I assume it's just more of the same Arcania gameplay.

The Gothic Universe Edition (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/6375/) looks like it's also on the daily deal (it's $5 over here) and gets you 1,2, and 3, sans Forsaken Gods and Arcania. Good to hear impressions of Forsaken Gods though; I was having trouble figuring out if it might be worth my time.

Similar

27-12-2011, 06:10 PM

Anyone tempted by the Dawn of War 1 offers should probably look up the Platinum edition and compare prices before buying.

Wizardry

27-12-2011, 06:26 PM

The Gothic Universe Edition (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/6375/) looks like it's also on the daily deal (it's $5 over here) and gets you 1,2, and 3, sans Forsaken Gods and Arcania. Good to hear impressions of Forsaken Gods though; I was having trouble figuring out if it might be worth my time.
Yep. I'd go for that, if anything. Not worth the extra money for Arcania and the shitty Gothic 3 expansion.

Prokroustis

27-12-2011, 06:27 PM

Need opinions: Is Gothic Complete worth my time/money? Try not to spoil too much ("go warrior if you want to steamroll the game") please

No, get Gothic Universe instead, which doesn't have the abomination that is Arcania, and Forsaken Gods, which, even after the admirable job of the CPT for the enhanced edition, is still not a Piranha Bytes game. (A note, Gothic 3 isn't patched to the latest version, if you grab it make sure to get the latest 1.74 patch).

vinraith

27-12-2011, 06:27 PM

Isn't there a mod that fixes the shitty Gothic 3 expansion?

The JG Man

27-12-2011, 06:27 PM

Bought RF: Armageddon. Dunno why I put it off so long, along with the DLC. The way I see it, the package still came to under £5 and I should be able to get at least that many hours out of it in terms of enjoyment. *Shrug* Makes sense to me. Today purchased DOW2: Retribution DLC...feel a little unclean for it, but hey. £4ish for the new Last Stand commander and an assortment of DLC for it. Think I may have got more than I wanted, but eh, not overly fussed.

For reference (unless it was patched out): DoW 2 and Chaos Rising use GFWL but, I think, have a better story than Retribution, however people playing MP and Last Stand are on Retribution, so unless you're overly focused on the story, just go for Retri.

Ice-Fyre

27-12-2011, 06:45 PM

I'm tempted by Terraria because of all the hype, but it looks abit boring... Other than that, the sale is let down today. Still might pick up test drive but was hoping Grid would come up on sale

Juan Carlo

27-12-2011, 06:48 PM

Pretty shit discounts today.

FEAR only 50% off.

Also surprised by Stronghold 3. I thought that game flopped hard, but it's still only at 33%.

Miker

27-12-2011, 06:52 PM

I'm surprised that F.THREE.A.R. is still priced at $40. Kinda like how I'm surprised that Dungeon Siege 3 is still $50.

Kodeen

27-12-2011, 06:53 PM

Isn't there a mod that fixes the shitting Gothic 3 expansion?
What do you mean by fixing it? I'm inclined to say 'no' anyway, I don't think this game got much (any?) mod support, but I'm curious as to what you're looking for.

Prokroustis

27-12-2011, 07:03 PM

Isn't there a mod that fixes the shitting Gothic 3 expansion?

The Enhanced Edition that is on Steam is basically a "fixed" -technically- version of the vanilla game. Story, quests, dialogue etc are unchanged. And there are hardly any mod capabilities with this engine. Gothic 3 got some nice content mods, but the expansion afaik has been left on its own.

Prokroustis

27-12-2011, 07:53 PM

Gothic 3 got some nice content mods, but the expansion afaik has been left on its own.

Scratch that, seems I haven't been paying much attention, there is a content mod for the expansion as well. http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/989442-RELEASE-CMGD1-0-Forsaken-Gods No personal experience however.

Xercies

27-12-2011, 10:51 PM

So I caved and got Sonic generations with 30 mins to go. Damn it being such a good deal.

The JG Man

27-12-2011, 11:29 PM

I hope you enjoy it :)

sabrage

28-12-2011, 02:15 AM

The Gothic Universe Edition (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/6375/) looks like it's also on the daily deal (it's $5 over here) and gets you 1,2, and 3, sans Forsaken Gods and Arcania. Good to hear impressions of Forsaken Gods though; I was having trouble figuring out if it might be worth my time.
Thanks, totally missed that when I was looking at the sale, and I wasn't really getting it for Gothic 4 anyways.

Now: assuming that I enjoy the first three Gothics, is Risen a worthy follow-up down the line?

trjp

28-12-2011, 02:23 AM

Need opinions: Is Gothic Complete worth my time/money? Try not to spoil too much ("go warrior if you want to steamroll the game") please

I bought the Gothic 1/2/3 deal and this would be my 10p

Gothic 1 - a bit dated and a right BARSTEWARD to get to work on Windows 7-64 - it will work some days and not others, I gave-up in the end because I was spending more time kicking it than playing it.

Gothic 2 - pretty much the same as 1 - a BIT more likely to run but still flaky and nothing seems to ensure it will run (short of running it on XP-32!!)

Gothic 3 - ropey-as-hell out-of-the-box but the latest community patch changes it almost beyond recognition - fully patched it's a game which can easily melt your PC if you turn everything up and works well and is stable on W7-64.

hariseldon

28-12-2011, 02:26 AM

Recommending Stronghold 3, ropey early release but the fun game under the bugs is coming through after some excellent rebalancing work.

trjp

28-12-2011, 02:26 AM

Well I've never played the old Fallout's so it won't be judged in that sense. I think I'll go buy it!

Thanks for the replies everyone

For the record, I've played the originals and you couldn't make a game like that anymore - they were almost roguealikes in terms of the likelihood you'd die doing ANYTHING (the save button gets VERY worn)

I bought F3 at launch and I'd have liked it were it not flaky-as-fcuk - crashing to desktop completely at random every 5-10 mins (making the save button work just as hard again but usually losing you a load of work anyway). It got dumped sharpish.

I bought it again in the Sale just to see if it's less flaky on my newer PC and with a few years of testing - here goes...

sabrage

28-12-2011, 02:34 AM

I bought the Gothic 1/2/3 deal and this would be my 10p

Gothic 1 - a bit dated and a right BARSTEWARD to get to work on Windows 7-64 - it will work some days and not others, I gave-up in the end because I was spending more time kicking it than playing it.

Gothic 2 - pretty much the same as 1 - a BIT more likely to run but still flaky and nothing seems to ensure it will run (short of running it on XP-32!!)

Gothic 3 - ropey-as-hell out-of-the-box but the latest community patch changes it almost beyond recognition - fully patched it's a game which can easily melt your PC if you turn everything up and works well and is stable on W7-64.
This is why I prefer XP anyways. I'll report any bugs/issues as I come across them. Are there similar community patches for the first two games, or should I just dive right in?

Kodeen

28-12-2011, 03:22 AM

Gothic 1 - a bit dated and a right BARSTEWARD to get to work on Windows 7-64 - it will work some days and not others, I gave-up in the end because I was spending more time kicking it than playing it.

Gothic 2 - pretty much the same as 1 - a BIT more likely to run but still flaky and nothing seems to ensure it will run (short of running it on XP-32!!)

For some reason these games are fussy when you have other programs running, particularly a browser. I don't know why. German engineering, I suppose. Like window pressure sensors on a VW that fail and prevent you from rolling up your window at all.

This is why I prefer XP anyways. I'll report any bugs/issues as I come across them. Are there similar community patches for the first two games, or should I just dive right in?

There are community patches, but supposedly they create as many problems as they solve. Just play them vanilla. They're fairly bug free, maybe the occasional CTD, so just don't go hours without saving.

Username

28-12-2011, 04:01 AM

My latest price grab: a -50% voucher for Steel Storm: Burning Retribution 4-pack. Never even heard of the game and the Metacritic score is 55. WINNING.

I wouldn't put much stock in Metacritic averages. There's plenty of great games with middling Metascores.

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Has Gratuitous Space Battles been a daily yet? I just started playing my Humble copy and, by the Gaming Gods, it is the biggest surprise I've had in a long time. Waaayy more fun than I ever thought possible.

hamster

28-12-2011, 07:54 AM

Is gothic 3 worth playing? Forget the price - I just wanna known if it's fun. More importantly how is the exploration (leveled and random loot with copy paste dungeons like oblivion?) and the quests?

Christian

28-12-2011, 09:09 AM

I wouldn't put much stock in Metacritic averages. There's plenty of great games with middling Metascores.
[...]

Yeah, another good example would be Post Apocalyptic Mayhem. Got a MC-score of 44 but for it's price is a great little racing game.

But OT:
What do you people think..will Skyrim be on sale again this season? I know it's been on a daily sale recently, but might they be doing some sort of 'best-of'-sale on the last day?

(I sadly missed getting Skyrim on the daily sale..booh for me..)

Prokroustis

28-12-2011, 11:05 AM

Now: assuming that I enjoy the first three Gothics, is Risen a worthy follow-up down the line?

Yes it is.

Is gothic 3 worth playing? Forget the price - I just wanna known if it's fun. More importantly how is the exploration (leveled and random loot with copy paste dungeons like oblivion?) and the quests?

No level scaling, you can explore everything from the beginning, hand picked loot and hand crafted world (including dungeons). As for the quests, there is the occasional courier one but there are a lot of great ones as well. All in all, (with the latest patch - and preferably alternative AI and balancing on - mind you) it is definitely worth playing.

fiddlesticks

28-12-2011, 11:27 AM

After getting coal the first eight times, I finally got an actual gift for completing my ninth achievment. Jagged Alliance 2 Gold Edition and the Unfinished Business expansion. So as far as I'm concerned, this event has been a great success. :)

Oh, also, I own KOTOR on Xbox but my sister spoiled the plot twist for me years ago and I could never bring myself to replay it (I didn't get too far.) How much better is the PC version?
Off the top of my head the only difference between the two versions is the Yavin Station DLC on the PC, which grants you access to an additional store with some neat items and one small quest attached to it. It's nice, but if you couldn't be bothered to finish the Xbox version, you're probably not going to get through the PC version either.

apricotsoup

28-12-2011, 01:00 PM

After getting coal the first eight times, I finally got an actual gift for completing my ninth achievment. Jagged Alliance 2 Gold Edition and the Unfinished Business expansion. So as far as I'm concerned, this event has been a great success. :)

Congrats, I'm up to 26 achievements and no games, also crafted 3 stacks of coal into worthless coupons :] Going for some kind of record.

Anthile

28-12-2011, 03:15 PM

31 achievements and I only got Portal, the Orange Box and utterly useless coupons (I got one for Toki Tori... twice).

hamster

28-12-2011, 03:50 PM

No level scaling, you can explore everything from the beginning, hand picked loot and hand crafted world (including dungeons). As for the quests, there is the occasional courier one but there are a lot of great ones as well. All in all, (with the latest patch - and preferably alternative AI and balancing on - mind you) it is definitely worth playing.

Just to clarify, Gothic 3 with the community patch is a more enjoyable experience than Oblivion, yes?

Smashbox

28-12-2011, 04:18 PM

Recommending Stronghold 3, ropey early release but the fun game under the bugs is coming through after some excellent rebalancing work.

Glad to hear it's improving. I'm really interested in this title, but I don't want to buy it unfinished. Are they still working on it?

Roufuss

28-12-2011, 04:26 PM

Where the hell is KOTOR 2 =/

Althea

28-12-2011, 04:34 PM

Where the hell is KOTOR 2 =/
Not on any DD platform. Only way to get it is retail.

Christian

28-12-2011, 04:35 PM

Where the hell is KOTOR 2 =/

It's not even on Steam, is it?

But it's on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Knights-Old-Republic-Pc/dp/B00027CXEM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325093663&sr=8-1)for 8,99 $

Roufuss

28-12-2011, 05:02 PM

Unfortunately, my PC has no DVD drive (no use for one so I never replaced it once it broke... haven't needed it in the three years its been broken either) so its DD or nothing.

Just strange they did 1 and not 2 and still no 2 after many years.

31 achievements and I only got Portal, the Orange Box and utterly useless coupons (I got one for Toki Tori... twice).

31 achievements for me today, the only game I've won is Quake 4. At least its something I didn't already own.

Flint

28-12-2011, 05:05 PM

I continue getting vouchers I'll never use myself, this time -50% for Limbo.

Ice-Fyre

28-12-2011, 05:16 PM

Assassin's Creed 1 / 2 any good? I've never played any of them

Althea

28-12-2011, 05:22 PM

Assassin's Creed 1 / 2 any good? I've never played any of them
Don't buy them from Steam. Retail is cheaper, GamersGate has been cheaper, so on and so forth.

vinraith

28-12-2011, 05:23 PM

OK, so what exactly IS that Kain and Raziel pack for Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light? I'm a huge Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver fan, and I've been enjoying LCatGL, but if it's just a reskin it's probably not worth my while.

Flint

28-12-2011, 05:23 PM

Assassin's Creed 1 / 2 any good? I've never played any of them
The first one is okay but a bit lost at what it wants to be. The second one is a much more better realized as a full game. If you enjoy the idea of parkour-heavy frolicing and assassin-esque stabbystabby in a wide open city, it's a pretty safe bet to get. The games have a pretty tight plot continuum so if you care about that, either get the first as well or just read its plot somewhere.

vinraith

28-12-2011, 05:23 PM

Don't buy them from Steam. Retail is cheaper, GamersGate has been cheaper, so on and so forth.

Yup. They're brilliant games, but these aren't particularly good prices.

sabrage

28-12-2011, 05:25 PM

Assassin's Creed 1 / 2 any good? I've never played any of them
Don't bother with 1. 2 is superior in literally every way. A lot of people make a big deal about the story, but it's nothing special and nothing you can't figure out by reading a summary online.

Althea

28-12-2011, 05:28 PM

Kodeen

28-12-2011, 05:32 PM

Just strange they did 1 and not 2 and still no 2 after many years. I think that Lucasarts just lost interest in Steam, which unfortunately happened before Kotor 2 would have been uploaded. I don't expect to ever see it on there.

Althea

28-12-2011, 05:35 PM

I think that Lucasarts just lost interest in Steam, which unfortunately happened before Kotor 2 would have been uploaded. I don't expect to ever see it on there.
What? Lots of LucasArts games are up, some fairly recent ones too including their collaborations with Traveller's Tales and Telltale Games. KotOR2 has largely been forgotten about anyway, not being included in any retail compilations nor even having a DVD release - the only way to get it, I believe, is a multi-CD retail edition.

deano2099

28-12-2011, 05:37 PM

Pretty sure it's just a skin pack.

Yep, although the cutscenes have been changed a bit too I think. It's like the Kane and Lynch one that comes free with the game basically.

Kodeen

28-12-2011, 05:58 PM

What? Lots of LucasArts games are up, some fairly recent ones too including their collaborations with Traveller's Tales and Telltale Games. KotOR2 has largely been forgotten about anyway, not being included in any retail compilations nor even having a DVD release - the only way to get it, I believe, is a multi-CD retail edition. Sorry, I meant their back catalog. The last game they released that was non-current looks like was Star Wars Empire at War, in May 2010. I'm not really expecting any more back-catalog releases.

The JG Man

28-12-2011, 06:01 PM

Going through the pictures for each item on sale, as soon as I got to the Tomb Raider image, all I could think of was "...yup, there's a person attached to those breasts." Sigh.

TR: Underworld is a decent title. Not perfect, but more fun than not I suppose.
Lara Croft: Guardian of Light is excellent and thoroughly recommendable. Probably best played in co-op, but still incredibly fun as a single player title.

The Dead Space games are pretty good, too. Resident Evil in space, if you will. I find it hard to decide which one is better, as 2 I feel wasted some opportunities and is even more linear than 1 (which may seem Beyond The Impossible if you've played it) and it has a tacked on MP that doesn't really quite reach its stride, albeit being quite cool in theory. Regardless, if you're into that genre, £9 for the two is a pretty great deal and I'm frankly surprised to see 2 so reduced considering it did only come out a year ago. I remember paying £10 for it back in the summer and it was worth it then.

applecup

28-12-2011, 06:09 PM

Don't buy them from Steam. Retail is cheaper, GamersGate has been cheaper, so on and so forth.

What about the £40 pack for all four games? Good/bad/avoid price?

Althea

28-12-2011, 06:13 PM

What about the £40 pack for all four games? Good/bad/avoid price?
Does that include Rev? If so, yeah that's a fairly good price, at least in my opinion. Not sure what the status with DLC for 2, Bro and Rev is, though, although I know Rev has some DLC.

Anthile

28-12-2011, 06:19 PM

Pretty sure there was some rights issue with KotoR2. Knowing how greedy LucasArts are, they wouldn't pass the opportunity to make even the smallest amount of cash.

Xercies

28-12-2011, 07:48 PM

Underworld: Go for the really pretty vistas, stay for the really satisfying platforming and puzzling that goes on in it. I definitely recommend this game. The story is a bit crazy though.

For anyone who hasn't got Machinarium yet, for that price it is an absolute no brainer. One of the cutest adventure games I think I played, and it definitely has a really great atmosphere and a lovely story to it.

I really didn't like dead space to be honest, it wasn't at all scary I thought, and the action is done better else where. the story is also quite predictable.

TheDreamlord

28-12-2011, 07:49 PM

Smashbox

28-12-2011, 08:11 PM

Pretty sure there was some rights issue with KotoR2. Knowing how greedy LucasArts are, they wouldn't pass the opportunity to make even the smallest amount of cash.

I dont know if selling their own game would be ... greedy.

Goateh

28-12-2011, 08:18 PM

Is Serious Sam 3 worth it with 50% off, or shall I wait for a 75% off in the future?

You can get it for £9 at GetGamesGo ( http://www.getgamesgo.com/product/serious-sam-3-bfe ) and they give you a steam code immediately. I don't really use them but I've got a few steam codes off them in the past (including this one) without problem.

Christian

28-12-2011, 08:29 PM

Is Serious Sam 3 worth it with 50% off, or shall I wait for a 75% off in the future?
I am really annoyed I was abroad when Hard Reset was 75% off which I really wanted. :(
Alice Madness Returns, too. Damn you trips abroad!

Yeah, travelling sucks sometimes ;)

But as has been said: get SS3 for 11 $ / € (same as Steam 1$ =1€) or 9 pieces of Island-Moneys (sorry, can't find the Pound-sign on my keyboard..).
But Hard Reset is still 50% off, that's just 9 € (and about 6 or 7 GBP I guess?). Totally worth it if you like Serious Sam and shooters in general.

Prokroustis

28-12-2011, 08:33 PM

Just to clarify, Gothic 3 with the community patch is a more enjoyable experience than Oblivion, yes?

About a hundred or so times more enjoyable, yes.

Revisor

28-12-2011, 08:36 PM

I am really annoyed I was abroad when Hard Reset was 75% off which I really wanted. :(
Don't be. There will be an extended edition of Hard Reset with new enemies and levels in a few months. Details of whether it will be updated for the current owners for free or sold as a DLC are not known, but it will be a fuller game soon.

TheDreamlord

28-12-2011, 08:54 PM

You can get it for £9 at GetGamesGo ( http://www.getgamesgo.com/product/serious-sam-3-bfe ) and they give you a steam code immediately. I don't really use them but I've got a few steam codes off them in the past (including this one) without problem.

Yes, I actually did that right after I posted my comment! I found the link on the bargains thread, bought it for £8.99 and currently downloading it on Steam! Super!

TheDreamlord

28-12-2011, 08:56 PM

Don't be. There will be an extended edition of Hard Reset with new enemies and levels in a few months. Details of whether it will be updated for the current owners for free or sold as a DLC are not known, but it will be a fuller game soon.

That sounds very interesting Revisor. I have a bunch of games to play at the moment so I am not in a hurry. You think I should wait a bit for Hard Reset?

Revisor

28-12-2011, 10:16 PM

Myself I decided to wait for the extended edition.

buemba

29-12-2011, 02:08 AM

Any opinions on Two Worlds and its sequel?

Revisor

29-12-2011, 06:04 AM

TW1 is a pretty good mechanical action RPG, ie the story, quest and dialogue suck hard as if written by a band of drunk pale programmers but the RPG part - skills, weapons, spells, crafting - are compelling to addicting.

If you want your grinding fix, buy it on GOG.com DRM-free.

Don't know about TW2, I'm waiting for a larger discount on the basis of what the first one was like.

vinraith

29-12-2011, 06:24 AM

I would strongly endorse Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light to anyone that has someone they regularly play co-op with (either locally or online, it supports both quite nicely). It's one of the better co-op games I've ever played, and easily the most enjoyable Tomb Raider game I've ever played (in that it's really not one, it's all done from a top-down camera perspective that makes everything much more manageable IMO). Lots of great puzzles and trap navigation, tons of secret stuff to find and bonus challenges to best, craptons of replay value, and enjoyable combat. For this price, it's a no-brainer. The challenge map packs seem to be worthwhile as well (they have a pretty substantial amount of content, especially for this price) but don't bother with the reskins.

Althea

29-12-2011, 08:27 AM

dialogue suck hard as if written by a band of drunk pale programmers
Get out. The dialogue doesn't suck, the dialogue is absolutely hilarious.

Christian

29-12-2011, 10:08 AM

TW1 is a nice enough game to run about in and mess around, I didn't find the story that important and rather confusing but maybe that was just because it was ok for the game to just let me do my thing. Not as open as Skyrim and not as large as the Gothics while the quality is more like Gothic.

TW1 was quite fun and rather solid (and I'd second the hilarity of the dialogue)..but save yourself some grief and stay away from the second part. I said it before and I'll say it again: just the riding-mechanics are terrible enough to make me uninstall the game. Nothing to see, I'd save the money.

hamster

29-12-2011, 10:11 AM

About a hundred or so times more enjoyable, yes.

sigh my credit card refused to honor the transaction for some reason...nothing wrong with it when i used it today (locally). Must've been Steam. I missed the offer. Maybe some other time i guess.

Revisor

29-12-2011, 10:56 AM

The dialogue doesn't suck, the dialogue is absolutely hilarious.
Yeah, that's another way to put it. :)

Roufuss

29-12-2011, 01:13 PM

Damn, 35 achievements, only one free game, and a bunch of coupons ready to expire on March 1st.

buemba

29-12-2011, 02:08 PM

Thanks guys, I'm gonna give TW1 a try.

If you want your grinding fix, buy it on GOG.com DRM-free.

Cheaper too. Thanks for the tip, Revisor.

evilbobthebob

29-12-2011, 02:11 PM

Hearts of Iron III? Yes or no? I'm not entirely sure if I'm enough of a strategy nut to really enjoy it...

Kodeen

29-12-2011, 02:23 PM

sigh my credit card refused to honor the transaction for some reason...nothing wrong with it when i used it today (locally). Must've been Steam. I missed the offer. Maybe some other time i guess.

It's still half off on GOG.

apricotsoup

29-12-2011, 03:30 PM

Damn, 35 achievements, only one free game, and a bunch of coupons ready to expire on March 1st.
I'm up to 29 achievements for 0 games if that makes you feel any better :3

Roufuss

29-12-2011, 03:33 PM

I'm up to 29 achievements for 0 games if that makes you feel any better :3

That is insane!

Eventually you'll have to win something, I hope.

My girlfriend's friend, who only decided to do the free achievements, won Portal 2 by writing a review.. it was his third or fourth achievement.

Roufuss

29-12-2011, 05:02 PM

This is the first time I've heard of Wasteland Angel.. anyone played it?

Hell, I'm tempted to buy it because its not an indie game that's in the puzzle or tower defense genre.

And damn, I'm really sick of getting coal.

sopabuena

29-12-2011, 05:11 PM

So how much is EDGE? Apparently it's not avaible in my region, but I could access to it by searching for the game and bought it for 66% off ($2.71)

sabrage

29-12-2011, 05:18 PM

If you haven't play Machinarium yet, today's the day.

Is Serious Sam 3 worth it with 50% off?
It was $11.99 on GetGamesGo yesterday. It's been well worth that price to me; it's a fairly lengthy shooter, it looks great, the weapons all feel meaty, and there's thousands of enemies to kill. It's pretty hard too, which I consider a plus.

laneford

29-12-2011, 05:30 PM

Shogun 2 for under 8 quid? Ok steam, you finally win.

Does anyone know how good the various DLC (including the expansion pack) are for this? I loved the Kingdoms expansion for Medieval II:TW and I heard good things about Napoleon, so I'm hoping these are also worthwhile? (Also 75% off)

evilbobthebob

29-12-2011, 05:33 PM

Napoleon is good fun, better than Empire because it has much more focus.

laneford

29-12-2011, 05:36 PM

Napoleon is good fun, better than Empire because it has much more focus.

Sorry, I meant, how good the DLC for Shogun 2 was. I know about the others :)

JayTee

29-12-2011, 05:36 PM

The Rise of the Samuria DLC is definitely worth a purchase especially as it is a paltry £1.49. The others, maybe less so. The Ikko-Ikki clan is interesting to play and is reasonably 'different' from the other clans. The unit pack is probably worth grabbing as it injects a small amount of variety into the clans, which were very similar (Except for Ikko-Ikki and Hattori to a lesser extent) previously and gives you some options in the avatar conquest stuff.

Roufuss

29-12-2011, 06:11 PM

The JG Man

29-12-2011, 06:14 PM

Everyone needs to have The Binding of Isaac. At 99p, there is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't. It's a fantastic game.

Anthile

29-12-2011, 06:20 PM

Damn, that Revenge of the Titans achievement is impossible. Why the hell would the developer make it the hardest possible achievement out of five?

This is just ridiculous; the fact that its yet another tower defense game doesn't make me want to play it more either.

I got as far as four Yetis but the fifth is impossible.

You can always use a save file. It's a bit fiddly but it worked for me. I played a bit of RotT before and I knew it's a rather difficult game but this achievement is insane. It almost makes the Super Meat Boy from last summer seem reasonable.

TheDreamlord

29-12-2011, 06:20 PM

Everyone needs to have The Binding of Isaac. At 99p, there is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't. It's a fantastic game.

I still don't get what The Binding of Isaac is...

archonsod

29-12-2011, 06:30 PM

This is the first time I've heard of Wasteland Angel.. anyone played it?

Yeah. It's a top down arena shooter essentially; kinda similar to Bunch of Heroes et al, except with cars. Story mode is pretty much split between defending towns (or sometimes multiple, to keep things interesting) or boss fights, followed by the odd behind the wheel bonus round where you basically kill as many enemies as possible.

It's competently done and a nice diversion, but it's not going to set the world on fire and nor is it something you're likely to still be playing this time next week.

Roufuss

29-12-2011, 06:32 PM

Yeah. It's a top down arena shooter essentially; kinda similar to Bunch of Heroes et al, except with cars. Story mode is pretty much split between defending towns (or sometimes multiple, to keep things interesting) or boss fights, followed by the odd behind the wheel bonus round where you basically kill as many enemies as possible.

It's competently done and a nice diversion, but it's not going to set the world on fire and nor is it something you're likely to still be playing this time next week.

Thanks -- I thought it was more open ended, not yet another twin stick shooting game with a cars theme.

I'll be saving my $2.50 then.

Roufuss

29-12-2011, 06:33 PM

I still don't get what The Binding of Isaac is...

Its The Legend of Zelda combined with a rougelike combined with sometimes disturbing imagery (its all presented in a cartoonish way but some people may find it offensive.)

Add great graphics, 10 endings, multiplayer characters and a great soundtrack and you have one of my picks for 2011. I put 30 hours into it and I still haven't found everything there is to find.

TheDreamlord

29-12-2011, 06:56 PM

Its The Legend of Zelda combined with a rougelike combined with sometimes disturbing imagery (its all presented in a cartoonish way but some people may find it offensive.)

Lol! Some people find lazagna offensive, but what can you do! Thanks for the description, though. I'll consider it, though I have a whole bunch of indie games (from latest Humble Bundle as well) to play and not much time. Not sure if I can affort another game that requires 30 hours!

Roufuss

29-12-2011, 07:04 PM

Lol! Some people find lazagna offensive, but what can you do! Thanks for the description, though. I'll consider it, though I have a whole bunch of indie games (from latest Humble Bundle as well) to play and not much time. Not sure if I can affort another game that requires 30 hours!

The joy of it is that each game in Isaac lasts anywhere from 5 to 25 minutes -- I've only played it for 30 hours because I find myself constantly coming back to it over and over again.

Its a short game -- if you get the right combination of items, you can win in about 20 minutes. But it requires unlocking the items by diving further and further into the basement.

Its definitely not 30 hours all the way through though!

It was so good even RPS named it as part of the great 24 ;)

You can always use a save file. It's a bit fiddly but it worked for me. I played a bit of RotT before and I knew it's a rather difficult game but this achievement is insane. It almost makes the Super Meat Boy from last summer seem reasonable.

Would you believe that as soon as I posted that, I gave it "one more shot" (which actually translated into about three shots). I just barely beat the last yeti on my final attempt, he rushed through my defenses but I threw all the mines and bombs I had at him and just barely offed him.

Frustrating but the feel of victory is great. A lot of that achievement has to do with luck.

For my efforts, I got another coal, which I crafted into a 50% off all Nordic games coupon.

Duckee

29-12-2011, 10:27 PM

oceanclub

29-12-2011, 11:35 PM

Does anyone know if there's a way of viewing all Steam sale items categorised by percent off? For example, all items at 75% off. I'm hoping a third-party site out there does this.

P.

Rauten

30-12-2011, 02:09 AM

Does anyone know if there's a way of viewing all Steam sale items categorised by percent off? For example, all items at 75% off. I'm hoping a third-party site out there does this.

P.

http://www.steamprices.com/uk/discounts

http://didimatic.com/dd/en/onsale/steam/savings/descending

I think that's what you're looking for?

sabrage

30-12-2011, 07:34 AM

If you're at all interested in The Binding of Isaac, Edmund McMillen has been tweeting (https://twitter.com/#!/EdmundMcMillen) that there will be a new expansion coming for it sometime next year, adding about "50% more content" to an already huge game for $3. I've put about 20 hours into it and I still don't think I've seen everything.

Roufuss

30-12-2011, 09:36 AM

Do not buy the Binding of Isaac if you are just achievement hunting though, as the chances of the boss you need actually spawning is so minuscule it will not be worth the effort. It is still a great game though.

He actually spawns semi frequently, the trick is you just need to kill the boss while either a) not getting hit at all or b) receiving maybe one heart damage maximum for the demon door to open.

It only took me about 3 demon doors to get him to spawn, and I've had him spawn semi frequently after. Its more of a pain in the ass then anything at this point.

Xercies

30-12-2011, 11:19 AM

Considering I can never get pass the caves I think this achievement will never get done for me

Vandelay

30-12-2011, 12:19 PM

If I were to get Men of War, which one would you all recommend?

thegooseking

30-12-2011, 01:14 PM

I know we established that Metacritic score isn't everything, but last night I won Shadow Harvest: Phantom Ops. A game with a glorious Metacritic score of 34. But yes, what does a Metacritic score mean? So I decided to read the words, including such choice fragments as "Shadow Harvest will only bring pain and suffering into your life. Avoid it at all costs," and "It's not even remotely close to being fun, and serves as a fine example of how not to make an action game."

I've never been more disappointed to win anything in my life.

Similar

30-12-2011, 01:18 PM

If I were to get Men of War, which one would you all recommend?
(putting my question here as it might perhaps help you decide too).

Is there any point in getting Assault Squad if you don't play MP/co-op?

Revisor

30-12-2011, 02:04 PM

last night I won Shadow Harvest: Phantom Ops. A game with a glorious Metacritic score of 34.
...
I've never been more disappointed to win anything in my life.
You see, and I bought it for real, hard cash a week ago. It's obviously a highly ambitious game made by a small team and I want to see it myself, despite unfavorable reviews.

Sometimes it works out great (E.Y.E), sometimes the aggregated public is disappointed. But I'm always interested in ambitious games.

I have a proposal for you: Let's try this game with an open mind and see for ourselves.

Roufuss

30-12-2011, 02:37 PM

(putting my question here as it might perhaps help you decide too).

Is there any point in getting Assault Squad if you don't play MP/co-op?

Assault Squad has a single player component, if I remember correctly, in the form of skirmish maps. If you're a fan of the series its worth picking up for $7, in my opinion. Get the $1 DLC that adds even more skirmish maps as well and wait on the most recent one until a better sale.

This is what Jim thought in his WOT:

Up front I want to say one thing: people who were worried about the skirmish and multi-player focus detracting from the single-player challenge have nothing to fret about. The fifteen skirmish maps are all excellent, and are close to constituting a new campaign in their own right.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/02/18/review-men-of-war-assault-squad/

For the other guy, start with the first two games; by the time you finish those, it'll be time for the Spring or Summer sale, at which point Assault Squad and Vietnam will probably be even cheaper ;)

Plus, if you end up not liking it, its only $3.74 wasted instead of $8. From what I've heard, Vietnam is incredibly hard and I think was created with seasoned vets in mind. I wouldn't start with it.

Similar

30-12-2011, 02:51 PM

Assault Squad has a single player component, if I remember correctly, in the form of skirmish maps. If you're a fan of the series its worth picking up for $7, in my opinion. Get the $1 DLC that adds even more skirmish maps as well and wait on the most recent one until a better sale.
Thanks. I do like campaigns, especially ones based on historical battles, but maybe I can ignore that.
I think I should have one of the Supply DLCs from the summer sale thing, but there's no way to see whether I actually have it or not without buying the game, as far as I can determine.

Not really sure how that works. I also have an empty Portal 2 inventory. I don't know if that's due to a character (or something) I got in the summer sale thing too which doesn't show because I don't have the game yet.

Roufuss

30-12-2011, 02:54 PM

Thanks. I do like campaigns, especially ones based on historical battles, but maybe I can ignore that.
I think I should have one of the Supply DLCs from the summer sale thing, but there's no way to see whether I actually have it or not without buying the game, as far as I can determine.

Not really sure how that works. I also have an empty Portal 2 inventory. I don't know if that's due to a character (or something) I got in the summer sale thing too which doesn't show because I don't have the game yet.

The DLC you have is "MP Supply Pack Alpha," that was the one they gave away in the summer sale. I looked it up for you as its the only DLC I currently have as well :)

And yea, there's no way to view DLC without buying the game, I think because usually most people don't buy DLC without the game Valve never added a way to view it, haha.

For Portal 2, you get items by buying them through the in-game Portal 2 store or earning achievements. If you've never played the game, it'll be empty, that's natural.

Vandelay

30-12-2011, 03:34 PM

Plus, if you end up not liking it, its only $3.74 wasted instead of $8. From what I've heard, Vietnam is incredibly hard and I think was created with seasoned vets in mind. I wouldn't start with it.

Bit more expensive over here in the UK. The first two together come to £8.23 ($12.81). Think I'll just stick with the first and get Binding of Isaac too.

Roufuss

30-12-2011, 03:38 PM

Bit more expensive over here in the UK. The first two together come to £8.23 ($12.81). Think I'll just stick with the first and get Binding of Isaac too.

Yea, I didn't check initially but Red Tide is like $6 over here too.

I think your plan works best, to be honest. The others will be cheap again and the first one is cheap enough to give it a shot.

Roufuss

30-12-2011, 03:57 PM

I hate to double post, but the old daily deals still run for a few hours once the new ones kick in, correct?

ComradePenguin

30-12-2011, 04:17 PM

I hate to double post, but the old daily deals still run for a few hours once the new ones kick in, correct?

Indeed. They run for 4 further hours after the new deals kick in.

Roufuss

30-12-2011, 04:27 PM

Indeed. They run for 4 further hours after the new deals kick in.

Thanks a ton.

I'm hoping there is something else I want as I really don't want to charge just 39 cents to my card for the Shogun 2 Blood Pack, haha.

Spider Jerusalem

30-12-2011, 04:33 PM

Roufuss

30-12-2011, 05:01 PM

The creators of Super Meat Boy are fucking sadistic.

They have an easier Christmas achievement to use, why did they go with the almost impossible one?

And I finally won another game: the original Deus Ex, but I think every self respecting PC gamer already owns it, haha.

Ice-Fyre

30-12-2011, 05:03 PM

I've been waiting all sale for GTA, at last its up!!!

Vandelay

30-12-2011, 05:08 PM

Argh, still no Dead Island!

Might get Deus Ex: HR - The Missing Link.

Ice-Fyre

30-12-2011, 05:10 PM

What's Universe Sandbox like? Is it a play for 10mins and never go back type of game? lol

Roufuss

30-12-2011, 05:13 PM

What's Universe Sandbox like? Is it a play for 10mins and never go back type of game? lol

Honestly, its more like an Astronomy tool and less like a game. You can explore the universe, mess around with gravity and rotations and things like that... there really isn't a game here but if you really dig Astronomy and the universe, its totally worth getting.

SirKicksalot

30-12-2011, 05:15 PM

What's Universe Sandbox like? Is it a play for 10mins and never go back type of game? lol

I played it for hours. If you like astronomy it's a must-have. Just shooting random stars past our solar system is awesome IMO. I can watch planets and stars minding their own business for hours. Can't believe how exciting it is to wait until the system breaks and planets crash into their suns or are ejected to outer space at 40000 kilometers per second.

Doodier

30-12-2011, 05:17 PM

Honestly, its more like an Astronomy tool and less like a game. You can explore the universe, mess around with gravity and rotations and things like that... there really isn't a game here but if you really dig Astronomy and the universe, its totally worth getting.
And if you just wanna mess up with our and every other solar system? Just to see what happens if you add a little bit of this in here and little bit of that over there? Is it still enjoyable? It really looks appealing to me but I am still not sure whether to buy it or not :/

Vague-rant

30-12-2011, 05:18 PM

Which DLC would everyone recommend for Fallout: New Vegas? I've heard very good things about Old World Blues, but not much about any of the others

sopabuena

30-12-2011, 05:23 PM

Still no L.A. Noire. How many days are left?

Deus Ex HR looks nice, but now that the hype has worn off, is it such a good game? There was a thread on this forums recently where everybody agreed the game was average. And they had some solid points too. I could never get into the first one (found it too difficult). But maybe I'm missing out, what do you say?

Also bought Puzzle Agent 2, I think it's underrated.

Roufuss

30-12-2011, 05:24 PM

And if you just wanna mess up with our and every other solar system? Just to see what happens if you add a little bit of this in here and little bit of that over there? Is it still enjoyable? It really looks appealing to me but I am still not sure whether to buy it or not :/

SirKicksalot said it better than I ever could. I honestly get bored after about 20 minutes, but those 20 minutes at a time are fun.

field_studies

30-12-2011, 05:28 PM

What's Universe Sandbox like? Is it a play for 10mins and never go back type of game? lol

I recall it being advertised as allowing you to play with the nature of the universe, crashing planets into suns, controlling asteroids, manipulating physics... but that only stayed fun for me for, as you say, ten minutes. However, if I was ever studying astronomy, I'd be back playing with it in a flash.

Roufuss

30-12-2011, 05:30 PM

What's Puzzle Agent like?

Honestly, it looks like a poor man's version of Professor Layton, so I'm not sure if this game is worth bothering with when I've got Layton.

ComradePenguin

30-12-2011, 05:41 PM

What's Puzzle Agent like?

Honestly, it looks like a poor man's version of Professor Layton, so I'm not sure if this game is worth bothering with when I've got Layton.

Entirely depends how you get on with the story and characters. My other half and I had a very enjoyable time going through both. The actual puzzles are incredibly easy baring the odd one that isn't well explained and repeat a bit too often.

Vague-rant

30-12-2011, 05:41 PM

Still no L.A. Noire. How many days are left?

I've been waiting for LA Noire too, only one day left in the sales. I guess its not too big a deal though- I'm not entirely sure I can justify spending 15 quid (probable cost during sale) on a game right now.

Also, about puzzle agent... I can't speak for the second, but I never liked the first. The art style isn't something that ever worked for me (though you can make your own mind up yourself from screenshots), the story was a bit bog standard, while the puzzles were generally way too easy.

sopabuena

30-12-2011, 05:42 PM

What's Puzzle Agent like?
Yeah it is like Professor Layton, but I wouldn't call it a poor man's version. I have only played the first one and the game is incredibly moody and interesting. The art style is great and the characteres are very interesting. Puzzles may be repetitive, but enjoyable. The second one got a lot flack for not being to different from the first one, but I'm giving it a try
I would certainly recommend the first game at that price, if you are into that type of games

vinraith

30-12-2011, 05:57 PM

What's Puzzle Agent like?

Honestly, it looks like a poor man's version of Professor Layton, so I'm not sure if this game is worth bothering with when I've got Layton.

It's a very poor man's version of Layton. The atmosphere and story are cute enough, but the puzzles themselves are not nearly as clever or diverse as those in Layton. Too many sliding tiles and the like.

PeteC

30-12-2011, 05:58 PM

Honestly, its more like an Astronomy tool and less like a game. You can explore the universe, mess around with gravity and rotations and things like that... there really isn't a game here but if you really dig Astronomy and the universe, its totally worth getting.

I really liked the sound of that so went to buy it and....."You already own Universe Sandbox"

:facepalm:

I have no memory of buying it whatsoever.

TheDreamlord

30-12-2011, 06:00 PM

Since there are a few hours left on it, is Xotic worth a quid and a half?

Scumbag

30-12-2011, 06:28 PM

I'm not sure about how true this is but be careful if you are hauling in the winter achivements by using exploits with game files and whatnot. Acording to a couple of people I know there are rumors of bans going about if they catch you mucking about with the program files to grab as much as possible.
This is rumor though, cant say if this is concrete info.

sabrage

30-12-2011, 06:30 PM

Deus Ex HR looks nice, but now that the hype has worn off, is it such a good game?
Can't speak to it myself, as I haven't played it, but my friend was gifted the game on Christmas and he ended up playing for 18 hours straight.

vinraith

30-12-2011, 06:35 PM

Universe Sandbox is sort of a physics toy, more than a game. If you're interested in a good 3d astronomical engine that's less about playing with physics and more about seeing what's up there, I'd strongly recommend the (free) Celestia package. I've used it in teaching intro astronomy courses on a number of occasions.

http://www.shatters.net/celestia/

Anthile

30-12-2011, 06:36 PM

Since there are a few hours left on it, is Xotic worth a quid and a half?

It's a very unique game. Basically an ambient FPS.

RobF

30-12-2011, 06:40 PM

Since there are a few hours left on it, is Xotic worth a quid and a half?

I'd sorta hoped so, I mean it's a score attack FPS, it can't go that wrong can it?

Oh. Yeah. It can. No-one bothered to get either the moving or the shooting part to be any good, the rest follows on from there in a similar fashion.

At its best, it's really fucking tedious trawling around small levels, at its worst, someone should have their eyebrows shaved for it.

Mistabashi

30-12-2011, 07:03 PM

Anyone got an opinion on the Command & Conquer games currently on sale? I was looking at Red Alert 3 since I have vague recollections of enjoying the original many moons ago, but are any of the other ones better?

fiddlesticks

30-12-2011, 07:06 PM

Which DLC would everyone recommend for Fallout: New Vegas? I've heard very good things about Old World Blues, but not much about any of the others
Old World Blues is just all around great and definitely worth taking. As for the rest, it depends on what you want to get out of them.

Dead Money is the most atmospheric of the DLCs and the best written one as well. I liked it especially because it brought back something I've missed from the older Fallouts, characters with interesting dialogue. The gameplay can be somewhat annoying at times though and it's fairly linear compared to the rest of the game. If you like a strong narrative and enjoy, or don't mind the occasional survival horror element, then I'd recommend it.

Lonesome Road is even more linear and not quite as strong storywise. It does flesh out the Courier's backstory some more and the gameplay is actually pretty fun, if you do it at higher levels. It also features some fun new weapons and the return of the best companion in the game.

It's worth pointing out, that Old World Blues, Dead Money and Lonesome Road are all somewhat linked in terms of storyline and worldbuilding. You'll still understand the actual plot without any problems if you skip out on one of them, you just miss out on a bit of additional backstory and interconnectivity.

Honest Hearts was the one I was most disappointed with. The new location you get to visit looks really nice and remarkably colourful compared to the rest of the Mojave, but there's not that much to do in terms of quests and and very few interesting NPCs to interact with. I believe it's also the only DLC not written by Chris Avellone, so the writing isn't quite as strong as in the other ones. If you enjoy exploring I'd still say pick it up, especially at that price. But if you want to skip out on one, make it this one.

Lastly, Gun Runners Arsenal is exactly what you'd expect. It adds a bunch of new weapons and mods into the base game. Some of them are pretty neat, but not something you absolutely need. Even more so since there are plenty of mods which basically do the same thing.