Rachni, Pyjak, Salarian - Mass Effect 3 Coop

[Drayk]

Hey Guys,

I bought ME3 some days ago and I am enjoying the Multiplayer part too.
Name on Orgin is Aesdriel.
I mostly play between 9 and 12 PM.

Still playing the main campaign too.

[deano2099]

Been playing about with the Soldier class after I got a Revenant, Turian with Marksman is crazy burst damage, but Krogan Soldier with a melee build is utterly silly and ridiculous fun on bronze, if kinda useless on silver and gold.

[Wayward_Ronin]

Playing silver last night made me realise that I need to start using the map smarter. I still feel like a bit of a noob, so I've been following other people's leads - but most people end up milling somewhere around the original spawn point, which isn't usually the best place to mount a defence.

On Firebase Giant last night we probably should have camped out upstairs in the Comm centre. Chuck a decoy out the window, one man at the ramp, another sniping from the window, one covering the small room to the right, and the other floating around to support. Or something. Although a Banshee in there would be like a fox in a henhouse, so maybe that's not such a great idea.

[The JG Man]

A banshee will be a pain wherever they are. If you're able to, the best option with them is to have one person kite them for long enough that the team can react. On the odd occasion where I've been that person, I've sometimes been able to solo it with the right character set-up. I agree though; there are certain locations on maps I will always wait by with the new spawn and try and hold my ground on. When the wave is finished, I'll return to that point.

So just tried doing some geth gold...doesn't really work when the other people on your team can't make use of your abilities. I racked up a gold assist by the third wave...twice. Then I tried playing a silver on my krogan sentinel. "Charrrrrrrrr *miss - inexplicably dead half a second later - realise there's lag - disconnect* Or maybe not."

[Soon]

I find banshees cause more indirect deaths than direct ones. They'll flush people out of cover into the waiting sights of a few ravagers, and then it's easy to lose composure. Kiting works really well, providing the player isn't as bad as me at getting stuck in cover, and I've had decoys keep a few banshees at once transfixed whilst the team safely surrounds and annihilates them.

Bought my second premium spectre pack and unlocked one common, one uncommon, two rare and an ultra-rare with it. Tehe.

[The JG Man]

There's that, plus their one hit kills. A deeply unnecessary feature I find, for any of the enemies that have them, made worse by the fact that it's virtually impossible to have a lag-free game.

[RakeShark]

Been playing about with the Soldier class after I got a Revenant, Turian with Marksman is crazy burst damage, but Krogan Soldier with a melee build is utterly silly and ridiculous fun on bronze, if kinda useless on silver and gold.

Well, a melee-focused Krogan is still useful on Silver, just when you play gold, a krogan's melee is for either clearing the escape path, keeping ravagers busy (they don't have a melee power), or getting the last hit on a big boss monster. The rest of the time you need to focus on putting lead downrange.

Also, Ayam, Fiy, and Nico, good playing with yah. Soon you'll be doing bronzes in y'all's sleep, and complaining about pubbers being beneath your skill level, like Kad after his first weekend with me/Jockie/Rei.

Also also: We need to put together an all Krogan gold team.

[Gorm]

You can use combat drones to distract Banshees to. But i still hate them.

[QuantaCat]

I understand the lack of love for the vanguard or whatever they are: they teleport into combat, just as youre trying to shoot something, and fuck up your targeting.

Also, why do support classes get less points? this makes no sense. Its usually them that dont concentrate on maximizing damage, but disabling, or making some more vulnerable that enable others to take them out, but they only get assists which are worth next to nothing.

[Oshada]

I love the new Premium Spectre Pack, much better value than the normal Spectre Packs. 1 Gold and 1 Silver and you have ~100k, so you can buy one roughly hourly.

[deano2099]

Also, why do support classes get less points? this makes no sense. Its usually them that dont concentrate on maximizing damage, but disabling, or making some more vulnerable that enable others to take them out, but they only get assists which are worth next to nothing.

The points get split evenly between everyone at the end so it doesn't matter who earns them.

Apologies for ignoring a message from someone last night, I'd left the game loaded while watching The Apprentice.

[Heliocentric]

Apologies for ignoring a message from someone last night, I'd left the game loaded while watching The Apprentice.
Fired?

Points for victory are shared but kills and badges (assists, kills, headshot etc,and I think hack points) are not shared with others.

[Drayk]

I promoted my vanguard, which i played in bronze and Silver. I loved it. It's also my main class in the campaign.

I tried a soldier, but i suck at it. No way to regen shields is really difficult for me to grasp + I am not used to actually use weaponry. So I stopped trying and took a human sentinel. So far I love the combination of warp+Throw.

Should I use tech armor or is the impact on the cooldown to heavy ? If not, is the adept better ?

[Soon]

So, armour piercing mods don't do what I thought. They're actually very good. The description makes it sound like you're gaining armour piercing at the expense of damage. But, no, what it means is you pierce armour then deal the stated damage, whereas a normal bullet hits the armour and deals none at all. If there's no armour to pierce then you deal damage as normal. Armour in this case refers to guardian shields, metal plates on cannibals, etc. For the yellow armour bar, you get bonus damage.

Maybe I'm the only one who didn't realise.

[airtekh]

Should I use tech armor or is the impact on the cooldown to heavy ?

See the argument on the previous page (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?3223-Rachni-Pyjak-Salarian-Mass-Effect-3-Coop&p=110640&viewfull=1#post110640).

I find it very useful, but your mileage may vary.

[Drayk]

See the argument on the previous page (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?3223-Rachni-Pyjak-Salarian-Mass-Effect-3-Coop&p=110640&viewfull=1#post110640)
.

I find it very useful, but your mileage may vary.

Thanks, just read what you two guys said about it. Will probably try to get the Force power in it to compensate the CD speed reduction.

[Jockie]

I promoted my vanguard, which i played in bronze and Silver. I loved it. It's also my main class in the campaign.

I tried a soldier, but i suck at it. No way to regen shields is really difficult for me to grasp + I am not used to actually use weaponry. So I stopped trying and took a human sentinel. So far I love the combination of warp+Throw.

Should I use tech armor or is the impact on the cooldown to heavy ? If not, is the adept better ?

I like it a lot on the Krogan, I basically ignored incinerate so that the only other power I use is grenades which don't use a power cool down. this means you can give yourself an extremely heavy load-out without affecting how he plays. I basically use him as a sweeper/tank, using my Carnifex heavy pistol at range, switching to a shotgun and melee to kill off any treats that get too close to the group.

Although on bronze, I just charge around like a big invincible meatsack punching things, because it feels like that's what a Krogan should do.

[deano2099]

I love the new Premium Spectre Pack, much better value than the normal Spectre Packs. 1 Gold and 1 Silver and you have ~100k, so you can buy one roughly hourly.

Yeah, had a lovely quick game on silver today where everyone stuck together, for the first time it felt like my decoy was really working, I saved the day at one point by rocket-launching one target with 10 seconds left, got a bit overwhelmed at the end but managed a lone extraction. Bought a Premium Spectre Pack and got me the Asari Adept, which is awesome. Now away for the bank holiday though so won't get to try it out until Monday.

[Oshada]

Ah that's a shame, you'll miss Operation Beachhead! And the rumour I posted on the Mass Effect 3 Endings turns out to be right, Batarians (and Asari Justicars, which is a bit weird) are IN! (although not this weekend, it should be noted.)

http://gamerant.com/mass-effect-batarian-justicar-dlc-operation-beachhead-robk-142091/

[The JG Man]

Krogan...Battlemaster? ...

...

...

:D

[Drayk]

What really pisses me off is those frequent disconnections. I don't count how many times I get disconnected in waves 8-10 or even during extraction...

[QuantaCat]

but still... free DLC right?

Forgot to mention: Had a really grand time with Tail last night, sorry to Bootcha and Cocyx for turning them down (there really should be eight player matches), where we had four silver matches, in which we only won twice, and lost twice at the tenth wave. After getting promoted to level 20 for my drell adept, we decided to go on gold, and made bets for how long we'd last. Surprisingly, Tail bet at 3, I bet 4, but we actually made it to 6!

Im sure with just a bit more communication, it would have all worked out somehow, and we would have made it farther.

So tail/soon, get yourself a mic, its time to comm up :D

(obviously to all that are interested as well)

[Soon]

After getting promoted to level 20 for my drell adept, we decided to go on gold...

We?
Could almost sense the uncertainty in the lobby when it switched.

[QuantaCat]

We?
Could almost sense the uncertainty in the lobby when it switched.

Thats true, but only because there is no fucking lobby chat. This makes no sense.

[Nalano]

Thats true, but only because there is no fucking lobby chat. This makes no sense.

There's no chat at all. I find this to be a design flaw.

[QuantaCat]

well, I find chatting with friends over the origin interface to be quite satisfactory, but it is severely lacking multiple user support.

[Burnside]

...Operation Beachhead...

Unreasonably excited about this:


http://youtu.be/BasebmHiqIo

Jump to 0:48 for full MWRAHAHAHAHA

[QuantaCat]

unreasonably excited about this:


http://youtu.be/basebmhiqio

jump to 0:48 for full mwrahahahaha

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa made of win

[Sceptrum]

I'm so making a Geth Infiltrator, painting him black, giving him plasma shotgun and decloacking near teammates in randoms.

[westyfield]

I'm westyfield on Origin. I mostly play as a human Sentinel.

[Soon]

I'm so making a Geth Infiltrator, painting him black, giving him plasma shotgun and decloacking near teammates in randoms.

I was going to say. I'm going to be repeatedly shooting the Geth player.
I'm twitchy enough around the cloaking sound as it is.

[Oshada]

It's a good thing teammates have their name over their heads! And the Geth melee looks AWESOME.

Does anyone think this might not have been free without the whole ending fiasco?

[QuantaCat]

No, I think it would have been free anyway. But the next one isnt, which is the point of the whole thing.

[Nalano]

Does anyone think this might not have been free without the whole ending fiasco?

No, the free DLC they're offering in July is for the ending. This isn't throwing the fans a bone. Hell, the folks angriest about the ending were probably the same folks angry at how multiplayer affected the single player campaign.

[Ravelle]

No, I think it would have been free anyway. But the next one isnt, which is the point of the whole thing.

Which isn't a big deal because their previous DLC were never free( besides Zaeed ) and well worth the money in my opinion

[deano2099]

Does anyone think this might not have been free without the whole ending fiasco?

Well the maps are free, the characters have to be unlocked through the pack system, so if they're still selling a decent number of Bioware points for packs then there's a definite incentive there. If they charged for them directly they'd have to unlock right away, which would lead to games full of nothing but Geth Infiltrators and Krogan Vanguards for weeks. Also no guarantee that selling them directly would be more profitably than just having a few 100s rich nutters who really want to be a Battlemaster spending $100s on points.

[Ravelle]

Well the maps are free, the characters have to be unlocked through the pack system, so if they're still selling a decent number of Bioware points for packs then there's a definite incentive there. If they charged for them directly they'd have to unlock right away, which would lead to games full of nothing but Geth Infiltrators and Krogan Vanguards for weeks. Also no guarantee that selling them directly would be more profitably than just having a few 100s rich nutters who really want to be a Battlemaster spending $100s on points.

I still have not gotten any Krogan so far so seeing they're rare to begin with the Battlemaster and Vanguard are even more rare, or so I hope.

[QuantaCat]

Anyhow, Ill be playing tonight.

[Oshada]

Those are some good points there, thanks.

Did the video say anything about Battlemasters? I just saw the Krogan Vanguard :|

[Heliocentric]

Which isn't a big deal because their previous DLC were never free( besides Zaeed ) and well worth the money in my opinion

And bring down the sky.

[Wizlah]

You'll excuse the phrase, but I was soldiering on and getting increasingly frustrated with my turian, uh, soldier and his revenant. Then I switched back to the Phaestron, and suddenly discovered that phaestron+prox mine alternating wtih phaestron+marksman is too much fun. Especially when my mines are specced to make the target take more damage from everyone after they explode.

Well, that and the revelation that as a soldier, sometimes you're best off just running when you're about to be overrun. Seems like they never get too many hits on you until you find some fresh, safer cover.

[QuantaCat]

Just came back from a couple of hours play with Bootcha, Tail/soon and Sceptrum. We werent able to hack the gold mode yet, so we just did many many silver ones. Lots of fun trying out different strategies and classes.

See you around, next time!

[deano2099]

Those are some good points there, thanks.

Did the video say anything about Battlemasters? I just saw the Krogan Vanguard :|

I assume they're the same thing. Krogan biotics that charge into stuff have generally been called Battlemasters throughout the series.

[westyfield]

I assume they're the same thing. Krogan biotics that charge into stuff have generally been called Battlemasters throughout the series.

IIRC a Battlemaster is just a krogan who leads an army. Grunt calls Shepard his Battlemaster as well.

[Nalano]

Just did four Golds in a row. All Infiltrators/Engineers/Adepts. Find a place with one or two chokepoints, lock down anything coming and hose it with bullets/biotics 'til it dies. Makes Gold really easy.

[Oshada]

Firebase White Gold Geth is perfect for credit farming, and most people on Public know exactly what to do. Usually gets done in around 25 minutes as well. Rather paradoxically, Silver matches are harder than Gold because everyone just does their own thing most of the time.

[Ravelle]

Those are some good points there, thanks.

Did the video say anything about Battlemasters? I just saw the Krogan Vanguard :|

Looked it up and seems the battlemaster is the vanguard.

Two multiplayer (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_3_Multiplayer) maps:


Firebase Condor (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Firebase_Condor)
Firebase Hydra (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Firebase_Hydra)

Six multiplayer characters:


Asari Justicar (Adept)
Krogan Battlemaster (Vanguard)
Batarian Soldier
Batarian Sentinel
Geth Infiltrator
Geth Engineer

Three weapons:


Striker Assault Rifle (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Striker_Assault_Rifle)
Kishock Harpoon Gun (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Kishock_Harpoon_Gun)
Geth Plasma SMG (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Geth_Plasma_SMG)

Four multiplayer consumable items:


Strength Enhancer – Applies a melee damage boost for one mission.
Targeting VI - Applies a headshot damage bonus for one mission.
Stabilization Module - Stabilizes weapons while firing and moving for one mission.
Shield Power Cells - Shortens the length of time shields take to begin recharging for one mission

[Nalano]

Geth Infiltrator
Geth Engineer

I know it's wrong but I still keep thinking, "these guys would be perfect were we expecting to see an invasion force of Quarians."

[Gorm]

Why do you get nothing when you get disconnected? Its really annoying.

[RakeShark]

So Kadayi unlocked his Krogan Soldier yesterday, and I was very insistent on him playing it, as I have had a lot of fun smashing into things and headbutting walls of enemies to death with my Krogan. After a few games, I think I can compile a few helpful tips for teaching new Krogan players. I call this six-step guide:

How to Train Your Whelp to Grow a Quad

1) Introduction - The most important thing you need to do starting out is to establish the teacher-student roles. This can be achieved by headbutting them. Repeated headbutting reinforces this lesson.

2) Demonstrate - New Krogan players will often be bewildered by their new existence and will not know what they should be doing, even if they've seen a Krogan tearing up the joint before. By informing the whelp they should follow you and watch you (with a headbutt of course), they will be able to observe and process the manner in which proper Krogan behave around squishy things.

3) Focus - With all recently hatched coddled clutchlings, your whelp will tend to view everything with confusion, asking such childish things as "Why can't I roll?", "Why aren't we with the others?", and "Why do you keep headbutting me?" It's tempting to stop and explain, but Krogan are not philosophers. Headbutting them will stop their existential crisis.

4) Participation - Once you are satisfied you've adequately demonstrated what a Krogan is supposed to do, you may then start to encourage your whelp to take the lessons learned and apply them to squishy things. It's in your best interest to clear a (relatively) safe environment for the whelp to practice his weight application skills on isolated squishy things. Hopefully by now your whelp has learned what a headbutt is. If not, re-demonstrate it on him.

5) Shepard(Wrex)ing - Now that your whelp has a little bit of confidence, now is the time to encourage reckless behavior and abandon. Follow your whelp from behind and direct him towards squishy things, resuscitating him when he goes down, and cleaning up the mess he leaves behind with your shotgun. All the while you should be reinforcing proper decision making and behavior with inter-spaced headbutting and scathing motherly sarcasm.

6) Socializing - While Krogan will never admit it, we are social creatures. Many operations may go by before the whelp sees another of his kind. It can get lonely sometimes, but when they meet another Krogan, they must take the opportunity to socialize with each other. Headbutting is the primary communication channel we use with each other, and they forge powerful bonds between Krogan. Take every moment possible between combat actions to headbutt your whelp, so that he will know what to do when he's a full grown adult next week.

[Ravelle]

If only headbutting and other means of high-fiving like gestures were a thing, every end of each wave would be so much more satisfying.

[Gorm]

Arggggg disconnect on round 10

[Ravelle]

let's hope they fix that with the upcoming DLC.

[Burnside]

If only headbutting and other means of high-fiving like gestures were a thing, every end of each wave would be so much more satisfying.

They missed a trick leaving out unlockable cheers/taunts; I wouldn't care about my carnifex + paladin's stubborn refusal to upgrade if I was waiting for the drell/asari biotic brofist or the quarian oh snap!

[Heliocentric]

RakeShark, I am only the bearer of a quad as of today (1am), I also unlocked the child's toy-esque justicar shotgun, is this a good choice for a Krogan? Or am I better with that machine gun with 84 bullets which everyone raves about?

[Ravelle]

RakeShark, I am only the bearer of a quad as of today (1am), I also unlocked the child's toy-esque justicar shotgun, is this a good choice for a Krogan? Or am I better with that machine gun with 84 bullets which everyone raves about?

The Revanant? I prefer the Mattock.

[Nalano]

The Revanant? I prefer the Mattock.

The Revenant makes sense if you have Turian Marksmanship, because then Dakka Dakka Dakka becomes DakkaDakkaDakka. Otherwise you're gonna have to make frequent trips to the ammo caches 'cause of all the missing you're gonna do.

An engineer buddy used the Mattock X in a Gold game. Good accuracy but everything was dying too fast thanks to a Valiant and a Black Widow for him to get any kills with it.

[Ravelle]

The Revenant makes sense if you have Turian Marksmanship, because then Dakka Dakka Dakka becomes DakkaDakkaDakka. Otherwise you're gonna have to make frequent trips to the ammo caches 'cause of all the missing you're gonna do.

An engineer buddy used the Mattock X in a Gold game. Good accuracy but everything was dying too fast thanks to a Valiant and a Black Widow for him to get any kills with it.

Haha, nothing is as bad as running back and forth every 2 minutes to get ammo for the Black Widow.

I was happy with my Turian Sentinel/ Mattock combination, rarely had to take cover and did some good damage.

[RakeShark]

RakeShark, I am only the bearer of a quad as of today (1am), I also unlocked the child's toy-esque justicar shotgun, is this a good choice for a Krogan? Or am I better with that machine gun with 84 bullets which everyone raves about?

Just took it out on a bronze just to re-test it out and make sure my opinion was well founded.

By all measures for a space vixen phallic stand-in, the Disciple should be a really good shotgun. About a dozen pellets or so per shot, a nice tight cone spread to allow medium-to-far range suppression, decent refire rate, manageable recoil riding, and at level 10 it weighs nothing when equipping (giving you that 200% recharge).

However, unlike all the other shotguns, it gives you no visual feedback on whether or not you're hitting what you're shooting at. As in the pellets don't make any sprite events on enemies, only the environment. So you'll know if you're missing the target, but not if you're hitting it. Also, there is a noticeable delay between when you hit the target and when the target takes damage, much longer than any weapon in the game. When you only have 4 shots between reloads, you can easily waste a shot on a target that's supposed to be dead from the shot you just put into it.

If given a choice, I'd rather take the Scimitar than the Disciple. The damage feedback is apparent, quicker reload, and only slightly less accurate. The Disciple's a shotgun for snipers, adepts, and vanguards.

[Oshada]

The Vindicator is pretty cool as well, especially once you get it to ~ IV. Three round bursts are awesome.

[Wizlah]

I am now the proud owner of not one but two krogans, a sentinel and a soldier. The soldier was automatically leveled up to 20 (was that because I'd been doing lots of shooting with my turian soldier? ). Think I'll need to respec it though to make sure that headbutting yields maximum points. I spent most of the last two evenings stumbling about in silver with my sentinel, losing people games because I couldn't resist trying to headbutt banshees, brutes and geth primes. I know. But it feels so right!

Mainly I learned that the only way I'm going to be good at melee is if I'm ridiculously powered up from the get go. Like level 20, for instance. Also the best rifle is a toughie. was thinking of trying out the mattock last night with my sentinel.

Anyone up for all krogan some time?

[iucounu]

I'm iucounu on Origin as well if anyone would like to add me for ME3 multiplayer fun times.

[Heliocentric]

Anyone up for all krogan some time?

I want a Krogan engineer, essentially thery just deploy a mini version of that cannon from Tuchanka that killed the reaper

[Sceptrum]

Patch up on Origin! 42 MB

[Kadayi]

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594715184744164636/8F3B4A9DB03BD128441663115A006E9A8C7CCFF2/

Turian S&D on the move ;)

As requested

[Ravelle]

http://steamcommunity.com/id/kadayi/screenshot/594715184744164636

Turian S&D on the move ;)

We kicked some massive Cerberus butt!

[Nalano]

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594715184744164636/8F3B4A9DB03BD128441663115A006E9A8C7CCFF2/

Turian S&D on the move ;)

As requested

How did you cope with all that not-dodging? :3

[Ravelle]

How did you cope with all that not-dodging? :3

We didn't have to ;P

[RakeShark]

Cerberus: Our Atluses will blot out the sun!
Turian: Then we will dakkadakkadakka in the shade.

[The JG Man]

We walked through smoke, guns blazing.

It was glorious.

[RakeShark]

It was like as if a very militant Shakespeare wrote his entire life's work one word for word, one word per bullet, and then hired 4 manly men to perform his works live to a raptured crowd of space fascists, delivering his plays through automatic assault rifles.

I believe we performed all of King Lear, Macbeth, Othello, Hamlet, and managed to squeeze in 12th Night at the end.

[Ravelle]

I've been enjoying my high level Turian and Revenant III, once you activate Marksman ship it's raining bullets, also I just noticed that the soldiers cool down is dependent of his shooting, if you keep shooting cooldown is almost zero.
We did some gold and when there's three Primes entering the room, all you hear is dakka dakka dakka * consussive shoot* dakka dakka dakka * concussive shot*.

[Kadayi]

How did you cope with all that not-dodging? :3

Peace through superior firepower. ;)

Phantoms were a bit of a bitch mind.

[Heliocentric]

JG Man taught me what it means to have a quad.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576700870431640510/52C2307489A2AE423B5DC80AFAB2A0DB9CF84F69/

Real Krogan wear pink.

[Wizlah]

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594715184744164636/8F3B4A9DB03BD128441663115A006E9A8C7CCFF2/

Turian S&D on the move ;)

As requested

You make a spikey-headed man yearn for his phaeston.

And to believe on one random public match this evening, someone wanted to boot a turian soldier. Intolerant Scum.

[Wizlah]

JG Man taught me what it means to have a quad.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576700870431640510/52C2307489A2AE423B5DC80AFAB2A0DB9CF84F69/

Real Krogan wear pink.

Oh, I agree. We need an all-krogan, all pink team. Although I'm more at the mauve end of things. Bootch, coccyx and I were having fun until we headbutted together so hard, coccyx got thrown from the game. Then bootch was awesome and I sucked.

Right, bed now.

[QuantaCat]

I think we should agree on RPS colours.

Much like Saints Row, Im very purple minded.

EDIT: btw, how does everyone feel about getting invites into ME3, if theyre only online? rather not? or just try? because I have like most of the RPS readership on my list, that wanted to connect for ME3, but most of them I see online a lot, like Helio and gooseking; does this mean youre doing other stuff if youre not already in the game?

Also, sorry thegooseking for inviting you, then bootcha beat you to it. I know you started the game specifically just for that, maybe next time? :D

[Ravelle]

I hope they add clan tags in the future so we can set up some [ RPS Blue Suns/Eclipse ] also hoping for new customization sets such as blue suns and eclipse patterns.

Feel free to send me an invite if you see me online, If i'm joining right way that means I'm closing whatever I'm doing that moment. :)

Also the DLC should be up later today, who's in for some cash earning and new class unlocking. :D
ps: Still have not gotten any Krogan ;(

[QuantaCat]

ohhh, today already? then Ill stop playing now, and do some later on. Though I dont have time in the evening.

I did wear purple for the occasion, though.

[Wizlah]

When I'm online, I'm free for invites. If I'm not available (because I'm desperately trying to focus on work, not pink headbutters), I'll change to away status.

I'm also trying to deck out all my characters in pink/mauve/purple, whilst avoiding hideous clashing. A man must stay classy. Just ask any self respecting krogan.

[QuantaCat]

I'm also trying to deck out all my characters in pink/mauve/purple, whilst avoiding hideous clashing. A man must stay classy. Just ask any self respecting krogan.

Im sure we can agree to one single colour that has to be purple, and the rest can be freely chosen.

[RakeShark]

Well, with RPS, I'd go with Red Purple Silver.

[Oshada]

Red-Purple-Silver sounds like a winner to me!

Even though the patch got downloaded, I haven't noticed the new maps or characters, do they go live this weekend?

[Ravelle]

Bioware time I think, the patch only solved some minor fixed like shepface import and multiplayer bugs ( though it still suffers from bugs ) When it's up it will show up in your bioware social profile under DLC I believe.

[QuantaCat]

So what colours? Main Purple, highlight red, and secondary silver? (because you dont start out with secondary colour) ((Also, I dont like main red))

[Ravelle]

Does it matter what kind of purple or red? I prefer the blood red and darker colours.

[QuantaCat]

just go nuts.

[The JG Man]

I think any shade of red would be fine. I like the Red-Purple-Silver idea though.

As for invites, well if I'm on Origin at the moment I'm 90% likely to be wanting to play ME3 (the other 10% being BF3) so send me an invite. I always try and respond to any message, be it an acceptance or not.

[Ravelle]

I think any shade of red would be fine. I like the Red-Purple-Silver idea though.

As for invites, well if I'm on Origin at the moment I'm 90% likely to be wanting to play ME3 (the other 10% being BF3) so send me an invite. I always try and respond to any message, be it an acceptance or not.

ME3 is besides Syndicate the only game I have on Origin, which is mostly the case with people seeing most people's handle is Commador_sheperd or Com_J_shepard or whatever. ;p

[deano2099]

Happy to be invited whenever aslong as you're not offended if I ignore you...

Can't get to grips with Turian Soldier myself, Marksman/Revenant is meant to be amazing but it still seems to take me a full clip to kill anything.

[Kadayi]

Happy to be invited whenever aslong as you're not offended if I ignore you...

You should of hung around Dean. I had to close that session unfortunately because I had the no sound bug. :(

Also marksman/revenant is pretty damn awesome

[deano2099]

Would have done but had had two previous sessions time out and had just decided to give up when I got the invite! Straw broke my patience alas...

[QuantaCat]

well I never.. I didnt know that all got the same amount of XP at the end of a match.. Seriously awesome.

[Coccyx]

So, Bioware just posted on their facebook page saying the resurgence pack is 'available now'. I'm not seeing anything. *impatient sob*

[RakeShark]

The Resurgence pack is currently available to US players, via right clicking ME3 in the Origin library, then clicking on the "Show Game Details" --> "Shop for Addons".

News is it'll be available to EU players tomorrow.

[Coccyx]

TOMORROW! ach.


edit: hmm, when I go through the
"Show Game Details" --> "Shop for Addons" thing I can see resurgence - an unclickable button then tells me I can 'buy now'. Weird.

[deano2099]

I'm EU but it's showing for me now, downloading.

[RakeShark]

Quick EU folk! Download it before they realize that whole "Regional market separation" thing they like to do!

[Ravelle]

Just was about to spread the news but seems you got it covered, downloading now. :P

[The JG Man]

You can also go into the game main menu and select the DLC, it'll open up a window in Origin to download it.

[RakeShark]

Well I spent all my saved up credits, no luck on the new class unlocks.

[Burnside]

Got a geth infiltrator on the only spectre pack I could afford! Very excited.

Should be on a bit later to see what these new maps are like: unit_redacted on origin.

[The JG Man]

Just remember, Geth do not infiltrate. Intentionally.

[Sceptrum]

Holy moly... (http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/9685812/51#11262153)
Somebody must love having all the stuff...

[Ravelle]

Just remember, Geth do not infiltrate. Intentionally.

They do like to smack you in the face while sneaking up on you.

[The JG Man]

Unintentional.

[Flint]

Not been playing this at all for the past few weeks thanks to being preoccupied with life / other games (sorry for anyone who added me as a friend and wondered why on earth I've not accepted your invitation!), but methinks I shall try to get back to this again, with what the new stuff and all.

[Ravelle]

I got the Geth SMG in a spectre package, if only the damage was equal to the sound and firing speed.

[iucounu]

Now I have a Harpoon Gun
HO HO HO

[Kadayi]

The Hydra map is pretty cool Vs Cerberus, though you need to ensure people don't wander off. Holding the building seems to work pretty well esp if you have Stasis to keep the Phantoms isolated. Main thing in the latter stages, aside from the phantoms is dealing with the engineers and turrets. Occasionally you get an objective in the lower area and it's generally a nightmare to get to if there are turrets about as they have clear line of site a fair amount.

[The JG Man]

I reckon Hydra will be good for Geth Gold farming. The location is easily defendable, gives the infiltrators an advantage and has ammo dumps close by. It'll at least make a change from White.

Anyhow, just opened up a Premium Spectre pack - Claymore 1 and Striker 1. My Krogan sentinel is extremely happy.

[Oshada]

So excited to see the two new maps! And I see the Premium Spectre Packs are back, BioWare must be loving the sweet, sweet cash from players afraid to play Gold (or grind Bronze/Silver)

[Sceptrum]

So excited to see the two new maps! And I see the Premium Spectre Packs are back, BioWare must be loving the sweet, sweet cash from players afraid to play Gold (or grind Bronze/Silver)

Think they were added back in since the Reinforcement packs which would give you the Resurgence-specific content could not be added, due to a bug...or so they claim.

[QuantaCat]

Think they were added back in since the Reinforcement packs which would give you the Resurgence-specific content could not be added, due to a bug...or so they claim.

Fine by me. Im missing loads of regular stuff anyhow.

[Sceptrum]

Some impressions after testing the classes I unlocked (saved up credits beforehand).

Asari Justicar Adept.
Biotic Sphere is interesting. It basically gives damage protection and shield recharge rate increase to everyone inside, but also increases damage against enemies inside the sphere. Top tier upgrade can also make Warp more lethal. While mostly intended as a defense sphere to reduce incoming damage, it can also be placed in chokepoints to increase damage against enemies. Other two abilities are Reave & Pull, which the Drell Adept also have.
Theorycrafting says Biotic Sphere upgraded with Damage Reduction + Reave should make the Asari Justicar tankish, as they should get 40% damage reduction. Also, unsure if being inside the biotic sphere for enemies counts as having a "source" to set up biotic explosions.

Batarian Soldier:
Intended for brawling it seems. Ballistic Blades is damn nice, basically shooting a hail of blades in a narrow cone in front of you which applies a bleeding effect. Closer the enemy is, more damage they take. Can be upgraded to fire in a wider cone, longer range and at top tier, increased bleeding or a "after 3 seconds the blades explode" damage. JG_Man can attest to the "niceness" of seeing a Nemesis splattered against the wall after a blade attack.
Blade Armor is like the other armors, but not detonation IIRC and it gives melee damage bonus AND damage to anyone who uses a melee attack against you. The third ability is Inferno Grenade.
Basically, the abilities and the melee attack the Batarians have, seem to make them best at close range combat. They receive a weight decrease to shotguns & sniper rifles actually, latter most likely due to the Kishock Harpoon Gun.

Krogan Vanguard:
Properly played and specced, these guys are murder trains. Barrier for increased defense and Biotic charge + melee...oh my. In addition they also have Carnage, but don't know how many will spend points on that. At lower levels with few points in Barrier and charge, recharge time will be longer than what is the norm.

Kishock Harpoon Gun: Love the weapon, but damn tricky to hit moving targets with. You basically have to charge the weapon and since its a harpoon you are firing there is a fire arc in addition. You can either charge for around 0.2 secs or keep it pressed for a second or two to get fully charged. It also comes with a scope, being a sniper rifle.

[Oshada]

Wow, this guy must have saved up some credits:

http://i.imgur.com/kJ166.png?1

[Ravelle]

Thanks for the impressions, still hoping to get my hands on a Vanguard Krogan. The Hydra level is spectacular and we got wiped because we were just taking a sightseeing tour, the other map is odd since it has some nice higher up platforms and defense points but also some wide open areas, though it's a bummer they didn't add new missions, like activating the beacons to the top of the mountain, instead it was like all the others.

I certainly wouldn't mind seeing some new maps every 2 months or so.

[Oshada]

I agree with you on both counts - Hydra is an excellent map, Condor was so confusing (at least the two missions I played on it). Still haven't unlocked any new things :(

[The JG Man]

Premium Spectre Pack - Claymore 2, Medi Gel + 1 capacity, Geth Engineer.

Suck it, bitches!

[QuantaCat]

Premium Spectre Pack - Claymore 2, Medi Gel + 1 capacity, Geth Engineer.

Suck it, bitches!

I got the same thing, only not the geth engineer.

[Ravelle]

I got the batarian Sentinel and the Battlemaster in one premium package, luck turns it's table on me finally and man, the Striker plus Battlemaster is one way ticket to painland for the enemy.

Also headbutting and sending the enemy skywards is unexpectedly satisfying, Muuuuuuuuuah! Ha ha ha ha!

[laneford]

Premium pack, I got....

Salarian Infiltrator.

M6-Carnifex.

:(

[Oshada]

The Salarian Infiltrator is possibly the best class in the game, cheer up!

[RakeShark]

The one new class unlock I get: Krogan Vanguard.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[RakeShark]

The one new class unlock I get: Krogan Vanguard.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Dear lord is it fun.

[Oshada]

Just unlocked a Geth Engineer and the Geth SMG. The Geth Turret is the best turret hands down, it can restore your allies' shields by significant amounts. The SMG has insane rate of fire, put on some special Ammo and you're good to go!

[Kadayi]

Just a reminder that there is a mumble server for people wanting to team up and use coms: -


A friend has opened his mumble server up for RPS ME3 co-op usage. Here's the details:

IP: 85.236.97.19
Port: 1562


I reckon Hydra will be good for Geth Gold farming. The location is easily defendable, gives the infiltrators an advantage and has ammo dumps close by. It'll at least make a change from White.

Definitely possible, but it's the 10th mission where things rack up that I've noticed it can all go pear shaped (and lead to much 'goddamn it' from The Kad) when you have to occasionally venture out. Undetected hunters can really mess you up in. Also the extraction point is hideously exposed and I think a last minute run is favourable Vs trying to defend it from the start. I swapped out from using the Widow to the Raptor and I've found that it's quite good because albeit the damage isn't as great,the semi automatic fire staggers opponents giving you breathing space to wear them down. Worth consideration I'd say for dealing with groups in tight situations.

[The JG Man]

It's why you should always try to have an infiltrator in your group so that they can run around and do the objectives while the other three are drawing fire. Alternatively, you all move as a group, which can work quite well. Obviously Hydra is more open than White, but it should still be possible. And yes, the extraction point is awful, although I never believe you should try and defend it from the start on gold. Too many people incoming. If you're spread out, you can thin their forces down easily until the last 20 seconds where you can move into position.

[Ravelle]

With Hydra I get disorientated a a lot when I get back up from being revived and sometimes run in to more baddies, we also have to focus on territory, once they find a way in there's no stopping them anymore and we're forced to run/scatter and relocate.

[The JG Man]

That's the same with White though. Your only option is you keep them back. If you don't, whoever escapes is in for a run around.

[laneford]

The Salarian Infiltrator is possibly the best class in the game, cheer up!

Any ideas how to build him up, skill wise?

[Sceptrum]

Got a Batarian Sentinel in last pack. Blade Armor, Shockwave and Suppression Net.

The Suppression Net though is AWESOME. Damn nice to trap Phantoms and pyros.

[Kadayi]

It's why you should always try to have an infiltrator in your group so that they can run around and do the objectives while the other three are drawing fire. Alternatively, you all move as a group, which can work quite well. Obviously Hydra is more open than White, but it should still be possible. And yes, the extraction point is awful, although I never believe you should try and defend it from the start on gold. Too many people incoming. If you're spread out, you can thin their forces down easily until the last 20 seconds where you can move into position.

We shall have to give it a good go tonight. I hit a few medikits with my last few pack purchases so I'm in up for a few tries.


Any ideas how to build him up, skill wise?

I respecced mine yesterday. I'll have a look at what I did in terms of skill choices and take some screens. I'm sure there's probably some things you might do differently in terms of assignment. Fundamentally I maxxed all the skills, bar sticky grenade which I have at 3, as I've never found it's that great most of the time. She's very geared towards Geth only though.

[Oshada]

Kadayi, I think you mixed up the Salarian Infiltrator with the Quarian.

My Infiltrator has Tactical Cloak, Energy Drain, Fitness and Salarian Operative maxed out, with no points in Proximity Mine. Works a treat when gold farming against the Geth.

[Caleb367]

Up for some nasty co-op myself, nickname's Caleb367.

'sides, I'm enjoying a lot playing with my Salarian engineer - no turrets or drones means less running back and forth to plug holes and more susceptible to flanking, but energy drain + sniper rifle = instant kill on all lesser enemies.

[Kadayi]

Kadayi, I think you mixed up the Salarian Infiltrator with the Quarian.

My Infiltrator has Tactical Cloak, Energy Drain, Fitness and Salarian Operative maxed out, with no points in Proximity Mine. Works a treat when gold farming against the Geth.

Yeah by bad (tabbing between work and thinking about fighting Geth on Hydra). However mines do seem be a bit of a waste of points Vs the rest of the skills.

[RakeShark]

Any ideas how to build him up, skill wise?

Personally, I have three points in Decoy, and the rest maxed out as far as I can (I think shield drain is only 5).

I personally go for single target damage. But that decoy can literally save your and you buddies' lives, especially when banshees come popping in. Pulls the heat off you for a good 15 seconds or so. Some people like to spec out decoy into either longer duration or making it a low health bomb, but for all intents and purposes it is a temporary decoy. You'll want to spam energy drain and incinerate as much as you can in between laying down fire.

Weapon loadouts, it depends on what everyone else is bringing. If there are some high alpha-strike damage people in the mix, you can opt for a light loadout (Avenger+Tempest) for power recharge speed. If however it looks like you might have to carry the team, a widow and shuriken SMG will do the trick.

Edit: Whoops, thought it was Salarian Engineer, not Infiltrator.

[RakeShark]

Yeah by bad (tabbing between work and thinking about fighting Geth on Hydra). However mines do seem be a bit of a waste of points Vs the rest of the skills.

Well, on my Salarian Infiltrator, I have 3 points in proxy mine. It's more for an extra power to hit armored targets when the shields go down. Big lumbering bosses like the Brute/Atlus/Prime are easy enough to hit.

[Kadayi]

Well, on my Salarian Infiltrator, I have 3 points in proxy mine. It's more for an extra power to hit armored targets when the shields go down. Big lumbering bosses like the Brute/Atlus/Prime are easy enough to hit.

Oh I'm not saying eschew them (they are useful for bosses), but more if you just go upto 3 on them, then you'll be able to max your other 4 skills.

[Burnside]

I like the new maps, but there's something about firebase condor that makes people crazy. I figure that will settle down once everyone gets a feel for it, but so far every time I've been there half the team goes banzai suicide squad from wave 6.

Anyway - thought I'd include my interpretation of the RPS uniform, along with my current favourite. I'm convinced that the majority of asari must be totally insane, spending centuries upon centuries making things explode, but that's probably space-racist talk.

And having said that, the adept suits my play-style perfectly.

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[RakeShark]

I'm convinced that the majority of asari must be totally insane, spending centuries upon centuries making things explode, but that's probably space-racist talk.

This comes to mind when I think about crazy Asari: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxz7-O0xwNA

[Burnside]

This comes to mind when I think about crazy Asari: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxz7-O0xwNA

haha perfect... have you faced a crazy asari before? few humans have

[cjlr]

Right, I've added a whack of you on Origin... I got lazy going through the thread though. Me, I'm cjlr there as just about everywhere.

I've only dabbled in multiplayer so far, unlocked basically nothing interesting. PUG experience above bronze has been... rough. I'll be looking forward to rocking out with my fellow RPS space marines.

[The JG Man]

cjlr, welcome to the fold. I recommend you invest heavily in recruit packs - depending on how well you do on a bronze match, you should be able to pick up 2-3 after each successful match. These are good for building up your basic weapons, all of which are fairly decent (including the Mantis sniper rifle, which is useful for an incredibly long time) as well as getting basic weapon modifications. A few of us who regularly play would be happy to mess around on silver, I'm sure, to help you get some needed credits while we play around with our silly classes.

As for the Salarian Infiltrator - you want to invest significantly into Energy Drain so that you can remove a shield in one go, then cloak and hit with your one-shot sniper rifle for maximum damage.

[Oshada]

Indeed, the Mantis X is probably more useful than the Widow I, at least until you get the Widow to around level III. It's a shame that there are no Geth Sniper Rifles...

[Subatomic]

Indeed, the Mantis X is probably more useful than the Widow I, at least until you get the Widow to around level III. It's a shame that there are no Geth Sniper Rifles...

Isn't the Javelin a Geth weapon? (I guess you want the 'Networked AI' damage bonus)

Edit: At least according to the description it is.

[QuantaCat]

Also, @cjlr, why dont you just look at the server list (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?668-Server-List)?

I assume its ok to add your name to it?



@kad; the Firebase white is so much more rewarding than Hydra, atleast untill you get the money you want.
Ive done two golds atleast until wave 7 (ie. credits! kaching!)

This means that my drell named frell is better used with a black widow, than with a maxed katana or scimitar.

[Heliocentric]

Order of events for my salarian infiltrator.
1. Charge shotgun
2. Cloak
3. Energy drain(cloak skill use trait)
4. Shoot shotgun (bug! cloak holds)
5. Find cover
6. Energy drain (breaks cloak)
7. Return to 1 until not enaging enemies.
8. Litter level with proximity mines until engaged, then return to 1.

[Soon]

We'll have to play some golds, Cat. My recent games have been a bit rubbish, so I've been playing Grimrock instead.

[Kadayi]

@kad; the Firebase white is so much more rewarding than Hydra, atleast untill you get the money you want. Ive done two golds atleast until wave 7 (ie. credits! kaching!)

Wednesday was a terrible evening tbh (not helped by coming back from one of the worst days at work I can recall in a long time). However last night playing with Rav & Sceptrum and occasional drops in we did pretty well on it against Cerberus even with just 3 of us on Silver. Managed to complete every time and even notched up a couple of no death awards.

I respecced my Asari Adept so she's maxed in Stasis, warp (useful against armoured), fitness and Justicar (rarely ever used throw tbh) and just uses the Carnifex with +200% power regen. She's pretty much orientated towards fighting Cerb exclusively holding a position and nullifying the general ground troops and phantoms. Works pretty well, but you need to keep on the move rather than settling behind cover because you just can't hold your own in a sustained firefight, or take much punishment from turrets.

[QuantaCat]

@soon: yes but Im afraid you REALLY need a mike for gold. I mean, I know I can just shout at you, but it would be nice to get some feed back in a decidedly noncomputer voice :D

@kad: I fucked up both my vanguards, because my human one I gave extra weapon damage after successful charge, but the nova ability, and my asari one I gave extra biotic damage, but crap stasis.

Ill just send them in early retirement.

[Kadayi]

You can unlock respec packs dude

[RakeShark]

Or just promote them at 20, then build'em back up.

[QuantaCat]

Or just promote them at 20, then build'em back up.

That was what I meant with early retirement.

@kad: yeah, but theyre rare, so I dont want to use up the only one I have, when I can just start one new.

[Soon]

I think I got a cheap, imitation striker assault rifle.
Half the time it either wasn't launching a grenade/bullet, dealing zero damage or didn't explode on impact.

[Gorm]

Last wave disconnect bleh. Anyone know if its a port problem?

[Nalano]

I think I got a cheap, imitation striker assault rifle.
Half the time it either wasn't launching a grenade/bullet, dealing zero damage or didn't explode on impact.

Oh, if you want to use the Scorpion, Striker or Falcon, you'd better be the host of the game. Any lag at all and grenades will start disappearing.

[Oshada]

Oh, if you want to use the Scorpion, Striker or Falcon, you'd better be the host of the game. Any lag at all and grenades will start disappearing.

That's why I thought the Falcon was so crap (before the ROF nerf) and the Striker was so awesome? Yikes.

[Nalano]

That's why I thought the Falcon was so crap (before the ROF nerf) and the Striker was so awesome? Yikes.

Yeah, I loved the Falcon... so long as I was in charge. Consequently, the Harpoon gun is a piece of crap, which is why I won it in seven spectre packs in a row.

[QuantaCat]

? harpoon gun isnt that bad. Though its mostly OMGLOL moment material, as you can harpoon people into shit.

[Nalano]

? harpoon gun isnt that bad. Though its mostly OMGLOL moment material, as you can harpoon people into shit.

It's slower to fire than a Widow. Its projectile is slower than that of a Widow. It does less damage than a Widow. It penetrates less than a Widow. It's more affected by latency than a Widow.

It's utterly useless.

[RakeShark]

I think I got a cheap, imitation striker assault rifle.
Half the time it either wasn't launching a grenade/bullet, dealing zero damage or didn't explode on impact.

It wouldn't be a batarian gun if it didn't fail half the time.

[Oshada]

The Striker has automatic fire but you really need the stability improver mod if you want to hold that button down. It's also heavier than the Revenant!

[The JG Man]

It does less damage than a Widow. It penetrates less than a Widow.

I don't think those are correct, actually. I think it does more. That being said, with everything else you said...


It's utterly useless.

Which is why I also have mine up to mk 3.

[QuantaCat]

connection fun tonight. jesus.

[Ravelle]

The Striker has automatic fire but you really need the stability improver mod if you want to hold that button down. It's also heavier than the Revenant!

You destroy everything but the target, it's that awesome!

[Nalano]

You destroy everything but the target, it's that awesome!

I'm used to crazy recoil, which is why I have ammo/damage, and it's just fun to poom poom poompoompoompoompoompoompoompoom and stagger a group at a time, usually killing a couple of 'em, too. Funny thing is, My Turian Soldier's set up for increased fire rate, not increased stability - basically, a Revenant build - so the Striker's poom poom pompompompompompompompompompom requires I basically run the mouse off the desk altogether. :P

[The JG Man]

At least it does some damage though. Have you tried using the Hurricane SMG? It's an N7 weapon and it's abysmal. 6 shot-burst, enough recoil to send you to the moon with only have the burst fired. It does a good chunk of damage, but it simply isn't worth using.

[Nalano]

At least it does some damage though. Have you tried using the Hurricane SMG? It's an N7 weapon and it's abysmal. 6 shot-burst, enough recoil to send you to the moon with only have the burst fired. It does a good chunk of damage, but it simply isn't worth using.

Nah, I got the N7 pistol (nice auto fire, but I prefer the Carnifex) and the N7 sniper rifle, which is basically a cheat weapon.

[The JG Man]

Well you can try it out in SP. It's just as bad there as it is in MP.

The N7 sniper, the Valiant, kicks ass. I've been using it more recently on Gold with my infiltrators. I've unlocked the Black Widow too and whilst it does more damage, the speed and accuracy of the Valiant feels better to use.

[Nalano]

The N7 sniper, the Valiant, kicks ass. I've been using it more recently on Gold with my infiltrators. I've unlocked the Black Widow too and whilst it does more damage, the speed and accuracy of the Valiant feels better to use.

Firing speed, reloading speed and kickback are all far superior on the Valiant, but the Black Widow has the far better sound. :P

[The JG Man]

It's that tough decision that only games can create. Do you be more beneficial to your team, or do you let them hear a sweet-ass sound? Toughy, no questions.

[QuantaCat]

does anyone have a higher level black widow then? how does it compare to the entry level?

[Ravelle]

I only have the M-Widow or whatever it's called, lot's of walking back and forth between ammo boxes but it packs a lot of power. Nailing two enemies with one bullet is wonderful.

[The JG Man]

Put on the armour-piercing mod and you can do that with any sniper rifle. And it's magnificent.

I tried out the Viper semi-auto sniper rifle earlier. It's at mark 6. It's poor. It packs too much recoil for too little damage. The reload time is about the same as the Valiant, but the re-fire time is slower. This gets compounded if you're in the midst of action and everything is shaking. It makes it rather hard to actually land an accurate shot. By the end of one White Geth Gold, I had the medal for 5 headshots. Now I'm not the best shooter in the world, but it seemed rather telling to me.

It also bugs me that some classes combos are clearly far superior to others. The Krogans are almost useless at the higher levels due to their inherent ability to die the only way they're effective - through melee. Other things too - why would you pick a human infiltrator against the geth if you have a quarian or salarian? Hell, even a geth one is better because they can move quicker! I can see them nerfing gold difficulty along the line to make the other classes more viable. As it stands, you need to be a de-facto set-up otherwise you make it harder for yourself than necessary. Sure, maybe some classes are too powerful, but nerfing them still leaves those weaker combos weak.

[Nalano]

By the end of one White Geth Gold, I had the medal for 5 headshots. Now I'm not the best shooter in the world, but it seemed rather telling to me.

Yeah, if you're not hitting Bronze for headshots in the first one or two rounds, you're doing something wrong. That said, Valiant > Black Widow > Viper > Widow > Kishock > Mantis.

As for Krogan melee (and, vicariously, all vanguards and sentinels), I'm not sure even game designers can balance bringing a knife to a gunfight.

[The JG Man]

I'm a bit confused - are you saying the Mantis, the starter 'bolt-action' sniper rifle is worse than the Viper, or have you got the names mixed up? I know that seems a tad facetious, but I struggle to think why of all the semi-auto rifles, anyone would think that was good. I forget the name of the Salarian one, the one that's basically a slow firing assault rifle, but I'm led to believe that's alright for what it is. Othewise, I won't argue with you over the weapon order. I'm having a blast with the Valiant.

As for the melee, well they need to do *something*. I don't know if it's a case of boosting shields or what. Korgans specced for it will do a significant amount of damage at melee and have decent shields, but you can't go running off battering things away because you'll just get picked off and killed in gold. I don't envy their task.

[Nalano]

I'm a bit confused - are you saying the Mantis, the starter 'bolt-action' sniper rifle is worse than the Viper, or have you got the names mixed up? I know that seems a tad facetious, but I struggle to think why of all the semi-auto rifles, anyone would think that was good. I forget the name of the Salarian one, the one that's basically a slow firing assault rifle, but I'm led to believe that's alright for what it is. Othewise, I won't argue with you over the weapon order. I'm having a blast with the Valiant.

Because semi-auto > bolt action. Viper is a poor man's Valiant. A lot of fights aren't about pure punch but about sending bullets downrange.

[The JG Man]

True, to an extent, but you still need weapons with a good punch. The Viper handles like crap - I'd much rather take the Mantis if given the choice. Of course, you'll be hard pressed to pry the Valiant out of my hands now.

[DarthBenedict]

As for Krogan melee (and, vicariously, all vanguards and sentinels), I'm not sure even game designers can balance bringing a knife to a gunfight.

Human vanguards can work pretty well even on gold if you have a few biotics putting reave or warp on everything. Nova works really well for detonating combos, plus you can help out a lot if your squishy caster teammates get overrun.

[Drayk]

Won my first gold fight yesterday. Tricky.

I have really bad luck on the packs. Still no good weapon, no Krogan Vanguard or sentinel no Geth.

They should have put an exchange system...

[Heliocentric]

I have all if the classic characters unlocked, but no sentinel, what's that about?

[QuantaCat]

sniper rifles: I took a liking to the mantis now, the almost fully upgraded one. I know its only one shot, but it doesnt weigh much, and my adept can really pack a punch, as Im sure Ravelle, Tail and Sceptrum can attest to.

But what really annoys the FUCK out of me is how useless my turian soldier is. WHAT. THE. FUCK.
I mean, ok, I just gave him the geth pulse rifle to play with, especially with the GIGANTIC ammo clip, but even with the revenant hes not doing any damage. seriously, whats up with that?

[QuantaCat]

OK. Fixed it. I respecced, and put all his points towards rate of fire, and etc. made some stupid choices.

[The JG Man]

Don't bring a gun to a space magic fight :P

[QuantaCat]

Don't bring a gun to a space magic fight :P

Oh but now it kicks arse. Bigtime. It also helps to have a good position from which to defend your team :D
(also, I set my mine skill to "vulnerability" instead of damage, which makes a difference.)

Looking forward to the next gold!

[westyfield]

I forget the name of the Salarian one, the one that's basically a slow firing assault rifle, but I'm led to believe that's alright for what it is.

The Raptor, maybe? The Turian/human semi-automatic sniper rifle?

[Kadayi]

I reckon we can do Cerberus Gold on Hydra. Myself, JG & Sceptum did Silver twice with just 3 of us last night (stupid Randoms dropping a couple of stages in) without much trouble, using 2 Asari adepts and a Geth infiltrator. You have to be prepared to use some rockets towards the end stages, but I figure it's entirely possible if you hold the control room end.

[deano2099]

Really annoyed by this as I tend to get chucked out of any game I don't host at some point (although when I host, it seems to work fine for everyone else). But I anytime I invite people they can never join the game properly.

I'm not a huge online gamer but never had such problems with online before and have what's generally a ridiculously stable connection.

So annoying as really want to try some Gold with some of you guys.

[Kadayi]

Really annoyed by this as I tend to get chucked out of any game I don't host at some point (although when I host, it seems to work fine for everyone else). But I anytime I invite people they can never join the game properly.

I'm not a huge online gamer but never had such problems with online before and have what's generally a ridiculously stable connection.

So annoying as really want to try some Gold with some of you guys.

Jumping on the mumble is a good idea Dean, even if you don't have a working mic as we do a lot of 'Phantom incoming towards ramp' type chat, that can be the difference between survival and flatlining. The ingame VOIP isn't great tbh.

[deano2099]

Jumping on the mumble is a good idea Dean, even if you don't have a working mic as we do a lot of 'Phantom incoming towards ramp' type chat, that can be the difference between survival and flatlining. The ingame VOIP isn't great tbh.

Yeah I have Mumble and I have a desk mic somewhere (my headset died a few weeks ago) - but no use if I can't consistently stay in the game. Unless you really want to hear a Brummie repeatedly saying "oh for fucks sake..."

[Kadayi]

Yeah I have Mumble and I have a desk mic somewhere (my headset died a few weeks ago) - but no use if I can't consistently stay in the game. Unless you really want to hear a Brummie repeatedly saying "oh for fucks sake..."

Well we can always have you host if you can't stay connected.

[QuantaCat]

tried setting the ports on your router?

[The JG Man]

Unless you really want to hear a Brummie repeatedly saying "oh for fucks sake..."

Don't worry, my London/Yorkshire combo saying "oooooooooh shit!" should give you some competition!


tried setting the ports on your router?

I have the same problem deano. I've been relying on Kad hosting games! Also, I suck with network stuff. Also, Quanta, the Raptor sounds about right.

[deano2099]

Well we can always have you host if you can't stay connected.

Never been able to invite people properly that way though! (But games with randoms run stable as anything!)


tried setting the ports on your router?

Ooh, I've not done that in years. Worth a go I guess - I should check out the Bioware support forum I guess...

[Kadayi]

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594716355928829325/352F22C15929D90CA4E6D32845ED337D87DE4186/

Cerberus gold on Hydra on 2nd attempt. We managed to get to the wave 10 previously but we're undone on the objective stage due to an Altas mysteriously appearing on top of the bunker. Loads of dirty phantoms. Played JG, Rakeshark & Sceptrum (who is the eyes of the team). ;)

[QuantaCat]

oh for fucks sake, and I missed out.

Also, rakeshark = bootcha? I thought there was someone named bootcha on the forums as well?!

[RakeShark]

I blame my various alter-egos from game to game on my diversity of nicknames.

[QuantaCat]

Oh dear. The murder train is coming to town, thy name is KROGAN BATTLEMASTER with a CLAYMORE.

[Sceptrum]

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594716355928829325/352F22C15929D90CA4E6D32845ED337D87DE4186/

Cerberus gold on Hydra on 2nd attempt. We managed to get to the wave 10 previously but we're undone on the objective stage due to an Altas mysteriously appearing on top of the bunker. Loads of dirty phantoms. Played JG, Rakeshark & Sceptrum (who is the eyes of the team). ;)

You know someone has to yell out where dirty phantoms are coming from so the Stasis usage effeciency is top-notch ;)

[QuantaCat]

who needs stasis when you can AAAAAAAAAAAARGH them to death? HAHAHA!

[Kadayi]

You know someone has to yell out where dirty phantoms are coming from so the Stasis usage effeciency is top-notch ;)

I'm not saying otherwise. In fact I'm saying the individual scores don't really reflect the tactical input. The bulk of mine comes mainly down to the goddamn awesomeness of the Carnifex III and headshots tbh.


who needs stasis when you can AAAAAAAAAAAARGH them to death? HAHAHA!

It helps when there's four of them bearing down on you, with a couple of Atlases behind.

[Nalano]

When I use my Salarian Infiltrator, I top the charts. When I use my Asari Adept and spam Warp for somebody else to blow up, I top the charts. But it's the engineers that keep me alive.

[The JG Man]

I just like shooting things in the head. It seems to be quite effective.

[Nalano]

So do I, but I've been leveling up Sentinel and Vanguard lately because of all the shotgun unlocks I got. Sentinel I don't like. Vanguard's okay, but I've yet to finish a round where I don't get stuck on the geometry 'cause of all the biotic charging I do.

[Ravelle]

What do you guys think about the Disciple shotgun? It's pretty mediocre in my opinion, although it looks smashing and makes a nice sound.

[QuantaCat]

What do you guys think about the Disciple shotgun? It's pretty mediocre in my opinion, although it looks smashing and makes a nice sound.

great for an engineer.

[Nalano]

What do you guys think about the Disciple shotgun? It's pretty mediocre in my opinion, although it looks smashing and makes a nice sound.

My vanguard uses it. The Geth shotgun is likely more useful, but I've gotten tired of wind-up weapons.

[Sceptrum]

who needs stasis when you can AAAAAAAAAAAARGH them to death? HAHAHA!

For you (http://i.imgur.com/7Wot1.jpg) Quanta.

[Nalano]

I hate hate hate dying because I had to rez a mouthbreather who doesn't return the favor.

[Wizlah]

So, I finally get back to a bit of multiplayer and get to unlock a Geth Engineer, which I'm busy leveling up. Holy mother of fuck. That turret. And the super gethovision when you can't see what the fuck is happening. I just run with a basic assault rifle because of the low weight, and enjoy overpowering phantom's and watching those fucks get flamed by my turret whilst I blam away.

Was playing public on silver and we had three geth engineers and an infilterator. But for the fact that mine was comparitively low level (only 13 or so), so I kept dying a bit, it was pretty fucking tight.

Also, I think I may have managed to become a better, dodgier player in general. Really would like to try out a gold run with some of you folk sometime soon.

[The JG Man]

You have no health as a Geth, even more so with Hunter Mode on, so dodging is really the only thing you can do. For straight up fire power, I really dig the Geth Infiltrator. You can move quicker than everyone else, see better than everyone else and get a bonus to any Geth weapons - mine currently has the Valiant and Geth Pulse Rifle. He works wonderfully.

So I got my victory pack earlier. Got a Batarian sentinel. Boo. It means I now need to cough up 99k to get a Resurgence pack if I want a shot at getting a Krogan vanguard...I think I'll give it a miss. 99K for that lot doesn't really seem worth it. I don't know why it isn't just 60K like the Spectre, then have them do Premium Spectre and Resurgence on alternating. Ah well.

[Nalano]

Unlocked every character but Geth. Been running Reaper Gold. I dunno when it changed but apparently now brutes show up on the second round and Banshees show up on the third. And then it's fighting 2-3 banshees at a time from then 'til the end of the game. At one point I counted five brutes on the screen at once.

Good news is dual Asaris = boomsquad. Only issue is that they're made of paper and the Infiltrator's job becomes "headshot every cannibal/marauder/ravager before they pewpew the boomsquad to death."

[QuantaCat]

So you got your pack then after all?

[Drayk]

I got my pack. It was a Krogan Vanguard. The guy is really tough but I still prefer my human vanguard combo... Shockwave and nova are pretty cool when you play with another biotech user.

I also just discovered that the vanguard had a special mélée attack when he sprints... silly me.

[QuantaCat]

I got my pack. It was a Krogan Vanguard. The guy is really tough but I still prefer my human vanguard combo... Shockwave and nova are pretty cool when you play with another biotech user.

I also just discovered that the vanguard had a special mélée attack when he sprints... silly me.

I think the positive sides of the human vanguard is obvious: speed. That and I fucked up my human one, so I sent her off to singleplayer. That being said: krogans are simply FUN to play :D

CHOO MUTHERFUCKING CHOO

[Ravelle]

I love my Vanguard Krogan, but because I lack a good shotgun he's kind of useless when it comes to actually shooting dudes from a far.

And just opened my free victory pack and got another Krogan Vanguard, which leveled him to level 20, promoted him and am planning to level my Turian this evening on some bronze matches and maybe silver geth or something.

[Sceptrum]

Spent 99k on Resurgence Pack. Got nice amount of medigel, other equipment, shotgun piercing mod and two rare/gold cards (Disciple II and Geth Plasma SMG III), so seems like it kind of works like Premium Spectre pack, with 1 guaranteed Resurgence card.

Oh, here is what happens when you get your re-locked stuff back on top of what you have grinded back (http://www.bjoerkaas.priv.no/images/masseffect/me3-equipment-overload.JPG).

[Burnside]

Oh, here is what happens when you get your re-locked stuff back on top of what you have grinded back (http://www.bjoerkaas.priv.no/images/masseffect/me3-equipment-overload.JPG).

Love it! Uh... spare a brother some medigel?

And a question for you guys running gold regularly (I've cleared gold a few times, but it wasn't pretty). I made my quickest 120k last night on silver grouped with a human vanguard, two asari adepts and an asari justicar - the vanguard really knew their stuff so we spent the better part of an hour rolling over anything that moved; didn't matter what base or enemy, it got detonated.

Is that going to work with any consistency on gold? It felt like sloppy play because we were always out of cover and mobile, looking for something to light up - but it worked because every enemy was either exploding, in stasis, stunned, or dead. I figure I need to unlearn that behaviour because of the number of hardened enemies and damage you take on gold.

[QuantaCat]

Very unlikely. They all generally have more hitpoints, and you cant just melee them in one heavy hit them to death; they need a hit and a half, basically.

But the usual entrapment things should work.

[Kadayi]

Oh, here is what happens when you get your re-locked stuff back on top of what you have grinded back (http://www.bjoerkaas.priv.no/images/masseffect/me3-equipment-overload.JPG).

153...jez. Loaded for some golds for sure. ;)

I splurged a bunch on Veteran packs last night and managed to build up a stock of about 15 gels. Should be good for some golds.

[QuantaCat]

Actually, I vote sceptrum to be the medic of the team. Ideally a krogan medic. (vanguard without charge? :D)

[The JG Man]

Yeah, there was a balance change last night. Almost every SMG and assault rifle got buffed considerably - more damage, less encumbrance. I guess they've changed the level deployment too. What boggles my mind is that I don't know that many people who actually enjoying fighting Reapers on gold. Making them harder just seems ridiculous. Brutes are fine because one person with a sniper rifle can solo them fairly easily, but Banshees are a joke. They need to be changed slightly.

[QuantaCat]

Yeah, there was a balance change last night. Almost every SMG and assault rifle got buffed considerably - more damage, less encumbrance. I guess they've changed the level deployment too. What boggles my mind is that I don't know that many people who actually enjoying fighting Reapers on gold. Making them harder just seems ridiculous. Brutes are fine because one person with a sniper rifle can solo them fairly easily, but Banshees are a joke. They need to be changed slightly.

I like fighting the reapers. The only pain are the banshees, really. But using Biotics against the reapers is a joy.

Dont agree that the banshees need to be changed, though.

[Ravelle]

I like fighting the reapers. The only pain are the banshees, really. But using Biotics against the reapers is a joy.

Dont agree that the banshees need to be changed, though.

Don't forget Ravengers, they're not so tough but annoying as hell.

[The JG Man]

Banshees are hard to hit, deal out significant damage and can one-hit-kill you from the rest of that wave from obtuse angles thanks to lag. The hilarious part is the exact same mistake is done with the Phantoms. To be honest, I think all the 1HKs need to be removed. There's no logic to how they happen, other than "If you are close, you might be picked up." If they telegraphed that they were about to do one, I'd be okay with it, but at the moment there's no lack-of-skill through being killed by them, just stupidity.

[QuantaCat]

Banshees are hard to hit, deal out significant damage and can one-hit-kill you from the rest of that wave from obtuse angles thanks to lag. The hilarious part is the exact same mistake is done with the Phantoms. To be honest, I think all the 1HKs need to be removed. There's no logic to how they happen, other than "If you are close, you might be picked up." If they telegraphed that they were about to do one, I'd be okay with it, but at the moment there's no lack-of-skill through being killed by them, just stupidity.

Thats what I love about them, the sheer randomness. They make every position hard to keep, which I think is their intended purpose.

But I think vanguards with biotic barrier or sentinels with armour, should survive a onehit kill, just need medi gel or revving. That would make it more interesting for those classes to "take a chance", instead of avoiding them, unable to help the team.

Also, rav, theyre called Ravagers. I love them, they die easily.

[The JG Man]

How does them not having a one hit kill alter their effectiveness though? You point it out yourself, they make certain set-ups unusable against them. Remove that ability and what are we left with - tons of health, a charge that makes them hard to hit whilst simultaneously penetrating your perimeter which screws up your whole battle plan against the rest of the wave anyhow, a long range attack that continually drains your health, guaranteeing death if you were low when hit and a devastating AoE attack. They don't need a OHK to be effective.

[QuantaCat]

How does them not having a one hit kill alter their effectiveness though? You point it out yourself, they make certain set-ups unusable against them. Remove that ability and what are we left with - tons of health, a charge that makes them hard to hit whilst simultaneously penetrating your perimeter which screws up your whole battle plan against the rest of the wave anyhow, a long range attack that continually drains your health, guaranteeing death if you were low when hit and a devastating AoE attack. They don't need a OHK to be effective.

Wasnt talking about "nerfing" them, though. Just talking about "spicing it up". I love the ever changing fun of the banshee :D

[The JG Man]

Ah, fair enough. I think they're necessary as they're representative of the Reapers as a whole - divide and conquer, but in the name of game balance, I don't think their move makes sense. At least the Phantoms are controllable, both through being statis'd and being disabled through electric shocks.

[QuantaCat]

Ah, fair enough. I think they're necessary as they're representative of the Reapers as a whole - divide and conquer, but in the name of game balance, I don't think their move makes sense. At least the Phantoms are controllable, both through being statis'd and being disabled through electric shocks.

So the net of the batarian sentinel doesnt work on them?

[The JG Man]

Haven't tried to be honest. Probably? My point was more that they're controllable.

[Ravelle]

Thats what I love about them, the sheer randomness. They make every position hard to keep, which I think is their intended purpose.

But I think vanguards with biotic barrier or sentinels with armour, should survive a onehit kill, just need medi gel or revving. That would make it more interesting for those classes to "take a chance", instead of avoiding them, unable to help the team.

Also, rav, theyre called Ravagers. I love them, they die easily.

Oh, hehe. I've never been One Hit Ko'd be a Ravager though, only the phantoms and Banshee's. Also According to the game tips you're able to destroy the phantom's sword, never tried it but I bet you'll need a very good sniper rifle aim to hit it.

[Subatomic]

Oh, hehe. I've never been One Hit Ko'd be a Ravager though, only the phantoms and Banshee's. Also According to the game tips you're able to destroy the phantom's sword, never tried it but I bet you'll need a very good sniper rifle aim to hit it.

Aiming for the head is easier and does more damage. ;)

[Wizlah]

Unlocked a lvl 20 Batarian Soldier and lvl 20 Geth Infiltrator. Plus generally have been learning the ropes with vanguards (mine's a Drell). Still get feck all in the way of really decent weapons, mind. Pain in the arse.

Looking forward to trying out the Batarian Soldier, and I've got meself back up to speed playing infiltrators, so I'm looking forward to playing with those fellas.

Sadly, I have to NOT play at all for the next couple of days because I'm up against a deadline. Pah. If things go well, maybe I can manage just 20 minutes.

[Wizlah]

Re One Hit Kills. I was getting on a right roll with charge+drell cartwheel retreat against brutes and the like, and then I got smacked down three times in a row with OHKs. Think I was loving the giddy rush of charging too much. god help me when/if I get a krogan vanguard.

[Nalano]

So the net of the batarian sentinel doesnt work on them?

It does, but not for long, and you have to get them just after a roll.

[Ravelle]

It does, but not for long, and you have to get them just after a roll.

The net is designed so that you can take your sweet time doing that almighty power gauntlet. ;)

[Sceptrum]

A list of power combos. (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Combos)
Basically list sources & detonator powers for the four types; Biotic Explosion, Tech Burst, Cryo Explosion and Flame Explosions.

[Ravelle]

A list of power combos. (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Combos)
Basically list sources & detonator powers for the four types; Biotic Explosion, Tech Burst, Cryo Explosion and Flame Explosions.

The only power not in MP is Dark Channel, we need some Protheans for that. :P

[Nalano]

The only power not in MP is Dark Channel, we need some Protheans for that. :P

And we can't have those, because there's only one of them, and he's with Shepard. :p

[deano2099]

Got the Geth Engineer yesterday and he's quite fun, if very squishy. Him and my Salarian Engineer are probably my favourite classes, mostly as I need to aim less.

Trying to pick up a bunch of Veteran packs now as nearly all my weapons suck...

[QuantaCat]

Sorry for bailing out so suddenly, rav & kad! my partner then arrived, and she apparently tried to reach me (my phone was in the car), since she was feeling quite sick. had to go and take care of her.


Niiiice games, though.

[Ravelle]

Sorry for bailing out so suddenly, rav & kad! my partner then arrived, and she apparently tried to reach me (my phone was in the car), since she was feeling quite sick. had to go and take care of her.


Niiiice games, though.

No worries, dude.

I managed to level my level 9 Turian quite a bit and got about 10 medals in one match even though I scored the least points. ;p

[Sarigs]

Hey Lads,

I've recently finished up on ME2 and looking at picking up ME3, any one got any advice on the best place to pick up a copy? Only seem to be able to find it direct on Origin. Also would you guys recommend finishing the single player before jumping into the multiplayer side of things?

[QuantaCat]

Id try savygamer.co.uk (http://savygamer.co.uk)

[Kadayi]

Sorry for bailing out so suddenly, rav & kad! my partner then arrived, and she apparently tried to reach me (my phone was in the car), since she was feeling quite sick. had to go and take care of her

No worries dude.


I managed to level my level 9 Turian quite a bit and got about 10 medals in one match even though I scored the least points. ;p

Heh yeah that was kind of crazy. Pays to get grabs for sure.



Hey Lads,

I've recently finished up on ME2 and looking at picking up ME3, any one got any advice on the best place to pick up a copy? Only seem to be able to find it direct on Origin. Also would you guys recommend finishing the single player before jumping into the multiplayer side of things?

Well with the updated ending DLC coming out in a few months I'd say you can hold off the main game, however the MP is good fun.

[deano2099]

Though if you're particularly spoiler-sensitive it's worth being aware that the MP has a couple of enemy types that are new to the series and are (fairly minor) plot points when they're introduced. Other than that it stands alone entirely.

[westyfield]

Also would you guys recommend finishing the single player before jumping into the multiplayer side of things?

I'd recommend playing almost all the way through the singleplayer before starting the multiplayer. There's a point where you're about to start a mission and it's made clear that from that point on, there's no turning back. I jumped into MP from there and bumped my Galactic Readiness up to a decent level, then blitzed through the last few hours of the game.

[RakeShark]

The all Krogan squad is starting to grow a quad:

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