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Prester John
25-04-2012, 08:37 PM
My Specs:

CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz 72 C
Wolfdale 45nm Technology
RAM
4.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 399MHz (5-5-5-18)
Motherboard
MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD MS-7392 (CPU1) 69 C
Graphics
Standard Monitor (1440x900@60Hz)
ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series (ATI AIB) 49 C
Hard Drives
244GB FUJITSU MAXTOR STM3250310AS ATA Device (SATA) 34 C
Optical Drives
UZUPAB EFK9MVG9I SCSI CdRom Device
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F ATA Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio



100 to spend, used for gaming What Would You Do?

? graphics card ? Sapphire 6850

any suggestions welcome :)

Mistabashi
25-04-2012, 09:10 PM
Graphics card is the only thing you're going to be able to do for 100, 6850 is probably a good bet for the money (although I've always been partial to Nvidia cards myself). You're probably going to have to think about upgrading the CPU, RAM & motherboard at some point though, and I wouldn't bank on that HDD lasting all that much longer either (might be worth checking the SMART status with some diagnostic tools, HDDs failling is a pain in the ass if you don't have another one for regular backups).

Prester John
25-04-2012, 09:25 PM
Yeah i know, gaming on a budget - new pc doesn't rate highly in the family finances unfortunately, i figure if i make a decent purchase now i can eke out maybe another year and then make a bid for a complete upgrade. Fortunately my gaming preferences aren't lots of FPS, although my enjoyment of Tribes:Ascend has shown the decepretude of my machine :(

I have a backup harddrive (usb) that i keep copies of important stuff so i'm not too worried about the hard drive failing.

Mistabashi
25-04-2012, 09:47 PM
I wouldn't imagine Tribes: Ascend is going to be particularly CPU demanding to be honest, you might well find that a new graphics card is all that's needed to get it running nicely. Although it does seem to have a few quirks and optimisation issues (I wish it would stop streaming textures all the damn time for a start).

I notice your CPU is reporting a pretty high temp at what is presumably minimum stress - might also want to check all your fans are working correctly and give your CPU cooler a good clean-out.

Prester John
25-04-2012, 10:10 PM
Thanks, fans look like they are working but its all pretty dusty/dirty inside the case so a careful clean is probably called for.

mentor07825
26-04-2012, 11:48 AM
The 6850 card is really nice for the money. That card will do you for another year or two at the current rate the industry is going. If you put aside 20 a week or even a month by the time you need an upgrade you can get a massive GPU or upgrade everything else slightly higher.

Olero
26-04-2012, 12:36 PM
Some recommendations, based on my not so great knowledge :)



CPU upgrades (see here (http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/P31_Neo_%28MS-7392%29.html) for compatibility with your current motherboard)
(current: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz 72 C)

Intel 2 quadcore Q9650 @ 3 GHz, but I think quad cores are not that often used in games, so;
E8600 duo @ 3.33 GHz might be a good bet if you can find it cheap (2nd hand) online (note, I only see prices of around 130 Euro)


RAM upgrades:
(current: 4.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 399MHz (5-5-5-18))

No real recommendations, but you might find some memory with higher frequency available. The maximum memory frequency you can use is (rule of thumb) your FBS/2. So for example if your FBS is: 1333 MHz, your max frequency of DDR2 memory is 667 MHz. Your FBS can be 1333, 1066 or 800 according to the manual (so, 667, 533 or 400 MHz memory)


Motherboard upgrades:
(current: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD MS-7392 (CPU1) 69 C)

No clue what case you have. But I suggest to keep this one, and save the money for other parts/a new pc in the future


Graphics upgrades:
(current: ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series (ATI AIB) 49 C)

No clue what model to upgrade to, but as a nice guideline you can use this Hierarchy Chart (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card-gaming-performance,3042-7.html) and this (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html) is always a good place to look for graphic cards.


Hard Drives upgrades:
(current: 244GB FUJITSU MAXTOR STM3250310AS ATA Device (SATA) 34 C)

Your best bet here is an extra HDD that someone no longer needs, since new HDD's are still pretty expensive.





Some things to keep in mind:

- Be sure your PSU has sufficient power for a new GPU
- If you keep your current monitor, limit the GPU to it (max resolution). No need for overkill if you can't use it.
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Prester John
27-04-2012, 12:20 AM
Thanks for the informataion very helpful. Checked my PSU, got a spare power so should be ok for a new GPU. Found a 6850 for 88 so put an order in!