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Creeping Death
16-06-2011, 04:11 PM
So Alice: Madness Returns is released tomorrow here in ol' Blighty, are any RPS readers/members of the Hivemind at all interested in picking it up?

I really like the aesthetic style it has, and would probably have preordered it already if it was available on Steam. But 35 for it from a Digital service I havent used yet (and dont really want to), is making me think I'll wait until it's cheap at retail and make an .iso of the disc :/

Kablooie
16-06-2011, 04:27 PM
I've been eyeballing it. Got money I set aside for DNF, but nixed that purchase.

The graphics and art look stellar, I agree, I like it too. Gameplay . . . I'd have to see a Let's Play of it or something. One memorable quote of the first Alice:


the stunning art direction writes checks the gameplay can't possibly cash. Playing Alice is a stunningly average experience.

Haven't played the first either.

Rii
16-06-2011, 04:36 PM
Until I saw the reviews, yeah.

Here's (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-14-alice-madness-returns-review) one by our very own Quintin Smith.

Vexing Vision
16-06-2011, 04:38 PM
I'll play it for the graphics, the story and the art.

Not necessarily this weekend, but in the near future. Probably at first sale, though I'd like to own a retail copy. Mhmm.

Anthile
16-06-2011, 04:45 PM
Potentially interested, but just like FEAR 3, it's hardly something I'm going tu buy at full price and most likely, I will buy it once it enters the bargain bucket.

Ignorant Texan
16-06-2011, 04:57 PM
I was, until I discovered that the 'bonus' inclusion of the original game is only available on consoles(Amazon pre-order bonus was....the soundtrack!*snore*), the maxed weapons are DLC(!), and, as Rii stated, the reviews have been, uh, at best, 'charitable'.

Creeping Death
16-06-2011, 09:59 PM
I was, until I discovered that the 'bonus' inclusion of the original game is only available on consoles(Amazon pre-order bonus was....the soundtrack!*snore*), the maxed weapons are DLC(!), and, as Rii stated, the reviews have been, uh, at best, 'charitable'.

EA's store would lead me to believe you get original game included with the preorder, along with the soundtrack, dlc etc.

Probably ONLY the ea store, mind.... sigh

Kadayi
16-06-2011, 11:25 PM
I love the aesthetic, but the less than overwhelming critical response means it's firmly in the 'when it hits sale time' purchasing bracket.

Serenegoose
16-06-2011, 11:27 PM
I love the aesthetic, but the less than overwhelming critical response means it's firmly in the 'when it hits sale time' purchasing bracket.

Yeah, this is pretty much my line of thinking. It's a real pity, too. Most games just completely underwhelm me artistically (we seem to be all graphics and no art as a medium) and I was hoping this one would scratch the itch nicely.

Kadayi
17-06-2011, 12:43 AM
There's quite a long quick look of the game at giantbomb, where in Ryan takes you through the first half an hour or so.

http://www.giantbomb.com/alice-madness-returns/61-25371/reviews/

They seemed to like it.

Creeping Death
17-06-2011, 01:06 AM
Yea I watched that earlier. Seems quite fun to me... certainly not seeing anything that turns me off it.

Surprised to hear from Quins review that its 20 odd hours though oO

soldant
17-06-2011, 01:37 AM
I like looking at the game, but I still remember how frustrating the first one was, so I won't be getting this one until it's cheap unless I see something that really seals the deal.

Basilicus
17-06-2011, 04:49 AM
I've read a number of reviews that really liked it. I get the sense the gameplay is pretty particular and won't appeal to everybody. The interesting thing to me is that the reader reviews across a number of websites are really, really high compared to the review scores. These always must be taken with a grain of salt, but I've got me some hopes.

sabrage
17-06-2011, 09:37 AM
I'm with the Giant Bomb guy, I could really go for a platformer... I just don't know if this is it. That lava level looked like shit.

icupnimpn2
17-06-2011, 12:54 PM
Never played the first Alice, but the whole twisted child's tale thing just doesn't do it for me. For that matter, I think Tim Burton's turned into a predictable hack. Will anyone break me of my preconceptions that the Alice games are Burtonesque dross?

Kadayi
17-06-2011, 08:45 PM
Rather bizarrely and without any notice A:MR is available now on Steam. This EA Valve dispute grows ever more interesting.

Will probably purchase when hits a 25 - 50% sale.

caljohnston
17-06-2011, 09:28 PM
It's actually a pretty fun platformer. Good enough graphics, good combat and nice levels.
Until I saw the reviews, yeah.

Here's (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-14-alice-madness-returns-review) one by our very own Quintin Smith.

5 for Alice from the same site that uncritically fellates every Call of Doody...

Serenegoose
17-06-2011, 09:32 PM
Rather bizarrely and without any notice A:MR is available now on Steam. This EA Valve dispute grows ever more interesting.

Will probably purchase when hits a 25 - 50% sale.

Yeah, I noticed this too. Seriously odd.

thegooseking
17-06-2011, 09:38 PM
But direct2drive is still promoting Alice as "Not Available on Steam". Which is no longer true. Are they... are they allowed to do that?

Also, of the other three they're promoting as Not Available on Steam, one is Crysis 2, one is Brink (which they're not pointing out still requires Steam to play) and the other is Hunted: The Demon's Forge. Brink and Hunted... is Bethesda involved, too?

Ignorant Texan
17-06-2011, 10:08 PM
Brink and Hunted are both available in the US from Steam, so must be a UK thing.

Turns out the DLC and remastered Alice were an Origin only preorder bonus on PC, and have apparently now been removed from Origin. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1934543 I imagine the DLC will be available sometime in the not too distant future and I hope the original Alice will be on released on GOG.

icupnimpc2 -

While it's possible that the original AMG's Alice was influenced by other Tim Burton films, I have difficulty in seeing how a game released 10 years before TB's Alice was released could be influenced by it.

Kadayi
17-06-2011, 10:39 PM
I've heard that the original hasn't aged that well. On Giantbomb when they did the quicklook at they did briefly look at the remaster original and it didn't compelling. Still the game does have lots of fans iirc.

Also have to say as an aside www.giantbomb.com is a great site (and has about the best/funniest gaming podcast going to boot). Well worth making a regular stopping point for decent games coverage (along with RPS naturally).

icupnimpn2
17-06-2011, 11:46 PM
But direct2drive is still promoting Alice as "Not Available on Steam". Which is no longer true. Are they... are they allowed to do that?


Maybe it was a typo for "Note: Available on Steam"



While it's possible that the original AMG's Alice was influenced by other Tim Burton films, I have difficulty in seeing how a game released 10 years before TB's Alice was released could be influenced by it.

(A) The whole twisted child's tale thing just doesn't do it for me.
(2) I think Tim Burton's turned into a predictable hack.
(γ) I have preconceptions that the Alice games are Burtonesque dross.

I have preconceptions that the Alice games, being that they are twisted child's tale things, are similar to the predictable dross made by Tim Burton, a hack.

Ignorant Texan
18-06-2011, 02:08 AM
icupnimpn2 -

Fair enough. Forgive me for thinking you meant both AMG's Alice games were inspired by TB's recently released Alice. I agree with your opinion about Tim Burton, with two minor differences. I think he has always been a predictable hack, with the exception of The Nightmare Before Christmas and James and the Giant Peach(but then, he produced those, and left the direction to Henry Selick, who also directed Coraline). And, as for twisted child's tales, I have always loved , and will continue to love, the works of Roald Dahl.

thegooseking
18-06-2011, 01:44 PM
Brink and Hunted are both available in the US from Steam, so must be a UK thing.

Yeah, after I posted I remembered something about Brink being unavailable on Steam due to GAME wanting exclusivity or something like that. Which does rather raise the question of why it's on D2D...