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Nalano
12-07-2012, 06:32 PM
Voted for Saints Row 3 being a Community Choice for 75% discount, so I can gift it to the few friends who haven't already partaken in the insanity.

Boris
12-07-2012, 06:34 PM
I liked Portal. I tried five minutes of Portal 2 and I'm skipping it even at $5 because of the awful comedy sidekick.

Try it some longer. You'll like it.

cowthief skank
12-07-2012, 06:36 PM
Hoping DCS will be on a daily deal, particularly A-10C. Not sure how likely this is though. Not really much else I want.

Protoman
12-07-2012, 06:38 PM
Personally, I am just really hoping there is a sale on Telltale's The Walking Dead series. Love the comics, haven't gotten around to watching the TV show yet, and have heard great stuff about the game.
^This


I'm still holding out for a portal 2 giveaway stunt from valve, rather than a sale. They did it with the first game, and after playing it, I thought it was about the right price.
First of all, not terribly likely to happen again.
If you want a give-away from valve, pretend like TF2 is one.
But otherwise, "I thought it was about the right price"? You thought Portal was bad? Or that it wasn't enough content to justify spending $10 on, or more relevantly $2.50 in a sale?
But between the much longer story mode, the excellent co-op, and the never-ending stream of community levels, it's 100% worth $5 if you at all enjoy puzzle games.


I liked Portal. I tried five minutes of Portal 2 and I'm skipping it even at $5 because of the awful comedy sidekick.
Out of the 10+ people I've talked to about the game, this is the first time I've heard of someone disliking the humor. It stands as one of the only games that can make me laugh out loud. Consistently.

I'm really hoping for Saint's Row 3 on the flash sales.

Sketch
12-07-2012, 06:40 PM
The Walking Dead is 25 percent off, although it might go more as a daily special.

Smashbox
12-07-2012, 06:40 PM
Crusader Kings 2 is a bang-a-rang deal. This Song of Ice And Fire mod is also very cool:

http://citadel.prophpbb.com/forum3.html

xspork
12-07-2012, 06:50 PM
Crusader Kings 2 is a bang-a-rang deal.

Yup, Valve has already laid claim to my hard-earned monies in the form of Crusader Kings 2 and E.Y.E..

Also going to be gobbling up Skyrim if it goes to to 60% or more on a daily deal and Saint Row the Third if it is chosen for the community vote...

Tritagonist
12-07-2012, 06:50 PM
Out of the 10+ people I've talked to about the game, this is the first time I've heard of someone disliking the humor. It stands as one of the only games that can make me laugh out loud. Consistently.
I really liked Portal 2, but it did feel a bit forced at times compared to the more spontaneous original. I could've done without that annoying whatshisname, too.

As for Steam, good to see that the Dungeon Defenders 'Lost Shards' DLC Pack , which wasn't included in the Midweek Madness, is now 50% off as well.

Robert
12-07-2012, 06:52 PM
I was thinking about getting the Telltale pack: I want the Walking Dead, and I'm interested in Monkey Island (and maybe Back to the Future), but how do they hold up?


And I voted for the Witcher 2, as I don't have that one and still want to play it for cheaps.

laneford
12-07-2012, 06:53 PM
Crap crap crap.

I've been doing really well on my 'No new games for 2012 except Mass Effect 3 and new turn based X-Com' plan. Didn't buy anything in the last steam sale.

Day 1 of this one? CK:2 and Grimrock on daily deals.

Bastards.

gundato
12-07-2012, 06:56 PM
I was thinking about getting the Telltale pack: I want the Walking Dead, and I'm interested in Monkey Island (and maybe Back to the Future), but how do they hold up?


And I voted for the Witcher 2, as I don't have that one and still want to play it for cheaps.

In general, assume a Telltale game is great. I think Jurassic Park was kind of crap, and I don't like Strongbad, but the pack also probably has Sam & Max.

And Back to the Future is worth it, if only because the VA for Marty sounds freaky-similar to a young Michael J Fox.

squirrelfanatic
12-07-2012, 06:58 PM
Day 1 of this one? CK:2 and Grimrock on daily deals.Bastards.I was thinking about Grimrock as well but then realised that I can get it for 15$ (which isn't that much) DRM free elsewhere.

In other news: Oh no, no, no, no... noooo!! My poor purse.

xspork
12-07-2012, 06:59 PM
Crap crap crap.

I've been doing really well on my 'No new games for 2012 except Mass Effect 3 and new turn based X-Com' plan. Didn't buy anything in the last steam sale.

Day 1 of this one? CK:2 and Grimrock on daily deals.

Bastards.

Ha! When I see great games at those prices (I picked up CK:2 and would also have gotten Grimrock if I didn't already own it), my willpower just goes right out the window. They are bastards at that.

vinraith
12-07-2012, 06:59 PM
I was thinking about Grimrock as well but then realised that I can get it for 15$ (which isn't that much) DRM free elsewhere.

In other news: Oh no, no, no, no... noooo!! My poor purse.

Yeah, it's definitely a game best bought direct from the developers. They get a larger cut, you get a DRM-free version and a Steam key, everyone wins.

gundato
12-07-2012, 07:01 PM
Man, Steam's Summer Sale is here and I can't even make a list of stuff I want because I can't get on the Store due to the overloaded servers. It's getting better, but about 10 pages in, I start losing out to the millions of other people.

EDIT: However, I am looking at Total War Shogun 2, Sins of a Solar Empire Trinity, GalCiv2, and Grimrock.

This happens every day of every sale. Just wait until about 6 hours or so and then start patrolling for a watchlist. By then, most Americans will be off work and either playing video games, having a real life (lame), or aren't Americans and thus are less excited because Steam has a habit of screwing foreigners.

Vandelay
12-07-2012, 07:06 PM
Already spent some money, but only a small amount. Picked up Space Chem (plus DLC) and Terraria.

There isn't much I'm really waiting for out of the sale, but I will likely get Skyrim. Also tempted to get an RTS game, particularly after the discussions on the "modern RTSs are bad" thread. Sins of a Solar Empire might quench that thirst for something a little different to my usual Starcraft 2.

Edit: Also, voted for Batman on the flash sale thing. I already own the game from Green Man Gaming, but can't stand the awful client. If I can get the base game and DLC for around £10, I might be tempted to re-buy.

Robert
12-07-2012, 07:06 PM
In general, assume a Telltale game is great. I think Jurassic Park was kind of crap, and I don't like Strongbad, but the pack also probably has Sam & Max.

And Back to the Future is worth it, if only because the VA for Marty sounds freaky-similar to a young Michael J Fox.

It has:

Back to the Future
Monkey Islan
Walking Dead
Jurassic Park
Puzzle Agent 1 & 2


The thing is, I played the first couple of episodes of Sam & Max Season 1, and I did not find it interesting enough to finish the season. Which is why I'm on the fence now.

postinternetsyndrome
12-07-2012, 07:08 PM
So what's up with this badges thing? Do they do anything or are they just achievements?

Also, vote Arkham City.

gundato
12-07-2012, 07:10 PM
So what's up with this badges thing? Do they do anything or are they just achievements?

Also, vote Arkham City.

For now, nobody knows. But it looks like your accomplishments in the last few sales are in the badges page, so I would make it a point to voite in all the polls and the like, just in case.

Vandelay
12-07-2012, 07:10 PM
The thing is, I played the first couple of episodes of Sam & Max Season 1, and I did not find it interesting enough to finish the season. Which is why I'm on the fence now.

I believe Sam & Max gets much better as it goes along. The third season in particular is meant to be very good.

Flint
12-07-2012, 07:10 PM
So what's up with this badges thing? Do they do anything or are they just achievements?
Just achievements of sorts. Less about achieving, more about "I was around at x time".


I believe Sam & Max gets much better as it goes along. The third season in particular is meant to be very good.
It does indeed, and Season 3 is legitimately an amazing series with deeper/more invested gameplay and puzzles and a whole load of genuine surprises and even emotional impact in the plot/characterisation side of things. In retrospect Season 1 was a bit of a practice round for Telltale, although episodes 4 and 5 are still excellent even now.

johnki
12-07-2012, 07:16 PM
Hoping DCS will be on a daily deal, particularly A-10C. Not sure how likely this is though. Not really much else I want.
The first Black Shark is on sale for $5 so I think I'm personally jumping on that. Hopefully my cheap but trusty Logitech Attack 3 is enough to fly that thing. :)

DragonOfTime
12-07-2012, 07:44 PM
Steam is still too overloaded to accept mah moniez!

Sketch
12-07-2012, 07:52 PM
Is the Civ IV Colonization thingy worth it?

squareking
12-07-2012, 07:53 PM
So far, so good. Stay strong, squareking. Stay strong.

Chaz
12-07-2012, 07:57 PM
If you waited, the GTA complete pack tends to always come up for £4.99, same as magicka

Wait! But I must have it now!

Tritagonist
12-07-2012, 07:57 PM
I've just browsed through some of the collections on offer, and most either don't interest me or contain a lot of games I've already bought on earlier sales. The one that stands out in that regard is the Star Wars collection. I've never been much of a Star Wars watcher, and as such I've never paid much attention to the games.

Could somebody who has comment on the collection? They all seem to get a decent score on MetaCritic (apart from perhaps the two Star Wars The Force Unleashed games), but since most of the games in the collection are a couple of years old I'm wondering if we're not seeing a bit of rose-tinted glasses scoring going on.

Finicky
12-07-2012, 08:03 PM
I really liked Portal 2, but it did feel a bit forced at times compared to the more spontaneous original. I could've done without that annoying whatshisname, too.

As for Steam, good to see that the Dungeon Defenders 'Lost Shards' DLC Pack , which wasn't included in the Midweek Madness, is now 50% off as well.
The opening scenes of the game were really awful compared to the rest of the game.
The glados charm returned shortly after more bittersweet than ever but it feels like they crammed that AI core character in there as some lowest common denominator comic relief character for consolites, preteens and Americans.

Vandelay
12-07-2012, 08:05 PM
Steam is still too overloaded to accept mah moniez!

I've actually been really impressed with how well it has held up. I purchased my games through the Steam mobile app, then downloaded and played on my comp with no issues. Spacechem and Terraria are incredibly small games, but the whole store is usually completely broken for the first few hours of new deals.

On another note, my god SpaceChem is wonderful! I thought I would struggle getting into with the lo-fi-ness of it all and having zero interest and only basic memories of school chemistry, but introduces the concepts brilliantly. Once I got over the initial "argh" in the first couple of levels, it has really engrossed me for the last 40 odd minutes. Definitely glad I grabbed the DLC with this.

F. Lynx Pardinus
12-07-2012, 08:05 PM
but since most of the games in the collection are a couple of years old I'm wondering if we're not seeing a bit of rose-tinted glasses scoring going on.
All of the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games will feel dated. They're good, but your enjoyment of them will depend almost entirely on your tolerance of older FPS's. I liked Republic Commando for the same reasons I liked Freedom Fighters, because I was directing a team of fighters.

Sketch
12-07-2012, 08:07 PM
I've just browsed through some of the collections on offer, and most either don't interest me or contain a lot of games I've already bought on earlier sales. The one that stands out in that regard is the Star Wars collection. I've never been much of a Star Wars watcher, and as such I've never paid much attention to the games.

Could somebody who has comment on the collection? They all seem to get a decent score on MetaCritic (apart from perhaps the two Star Wars The Force Unleashed games), but since most of the games in the collection are a couple of years old I'm wondering if we're not seeing a bit of rose-tinted glasses scoring going on.

It's definitely worth it. Republic Commando, KOTOR, the Jedi Knight games, Battlefront II are all really good games. I quite like the TFU games as a bit of silly fun but they're not really strong games. The first is better.

Tritagonist
12-07-2012, 08:11 PM
Thanks for the feedback on the Star Wars collection! I'll keep that one on the list in case I have a part of my generally outlined budget left at the end of the sale.

xspork
12-07-2012, 08:16 PM
So far, so good. Stay strong, squareking. Stay strong.

More power to you! I, on the other hand, caved like 5-year-old girl at a justin beiber concert.

Mistabashi
12-07-2012, 08:25 PM
On another note, my god SpaceChem is wonderful! I thought I would struggle getting into with the lo-fi-ness of it all and having zero interest and only basic memories of school chemistry, but introduces the concepts brilliantly. Once I got over the initial "argh" in the first couple of levels, it has really engrossed me for the last 40 odd minutes. Definitely glad I grabbed the DLC with this.

Yep, Spacechem is ace. I wouldn't even call it "lo-fi", it has a very simple visual style but it's very effective and intuitive, and the music really brings it together. The Chemistry theme is really just flavour to be honest, it doesn't follow the actual principles of chemistry, so don't let that put you off.

Everyone who's even slightly interested in clever puzzle games should own it, especially considering how cheap it is.

CrinnyCow
12-07-2012, 08:26 PM
I told myself I'd pick up the ID super pack when it went on sale again but honestly I was expecting it to be less than 50 bucks. what do you guys think? I'm curious to play RAGE, and have been nostalgic for all of the Doom games and Commander Keen but is it worth the 50 bucks? Right now I'm thinking no.

Protoman
12-07-2012, 08:29 PM
it feels like they crammed that AI core character in there as some lowest common denominator comic relief character for consolites, preteens and Americans.
Go go ethnocentricity!
Because bigotry is fine as long as it's not racist or sexist!

@StarWars Bundle
I'm relatively sure that one of the daily deals in the last summer sale was every star wars game, and that allowed me to get just KOTOR and Battlefront 2 instead of all the crappy games that used the star wars license in addition to KOTOR and Battlefront 2.
Not that republic commando was bad, but there are a lot of sub-par "infinite backlog" games in that bundle. That's why I don't like these bundles- you get 5 good games and 50 sub-par ones that you never get around to playing.

asskicker
12-07-2012, 08:34 PM
So How's Shogun 2? I'm not a big RTS fan but I'd like a game with big battles and large armies.

alms
12-07-2012, 08:36 PM
Crappity crap, I was looking forward to the metagame.

What's the matter with dailies having 32 hours left on them? valve time?

These flash deals are things of evil, with expiries being offset by 2 hours, how am I supposed to check the storefront 12 times a day?

cowthief skank
12-07-2012, 08:38 PM
The first Black Shark is on sale for $5 so I think I'm personally jumping on that. Hopefully my cheap but trusty Logitech Attack 3 is enough to fly that thing. :)

Yeah, I know, but... If I can get them both for cheaper if they happen to be on daily deal, then I can wait a few more days and still enjoy flying around in Arma2.

fiddlesticks
12-07-2012, 08:43 PM
but it feels like they crammed that AI core character in there as some lowest common denominator comic relief character for consolites, preteens and Americans.
They used an English comedian to appeal to Americans?

I'll give another recommendation for Rayman: Origins, it's easily worth the price. One of the best platformers in recent years.

gundato
12-07-2012, 09:11 PM
So How's Shogun 2? I'm not a big RTS fan but I'd like a game with big battles and large armies.

It was definitely a solid game, but I can't help but feel that it was a rehash of Medieval 2, just on a smaller scale.

If you have never played a Total War, grab it. The game for 8 is pretty good, the "Collection" for 20 is decent. Pass on the DLC. If you are a Total War vet, you know if you want to buy it again.

AlonePlusEasyTarget
12-07-2012, 09:16 PM
I told myself I'd pick up the ID super pack when it went on sale again but honestly I was expecting it to be less than 50 bucks. what do you guys think? I'm curious to play RAGE, and have been nostalgic for all of the Doom games and Commander Keen but is it worth the 50 bucks? Right now I'm thinking no.

If you are patient I suggest you might want to wait for Quakecon Pack (id + Bethesda pack) which is usually sold on August. It has happened for previous two years but I can't guarantee you it would happen again this year.

postinternetsyndrome
12-07-2012, 09:39 PM
Yep, Spacechem is ace. I wouldn't even call it "lo-fi", it has a very simple visual style but it's very effective and intuitive, and the music really brings it together. The Chemistry theme is really just flavour to be honest, it doesn't follow the actual principles of chemistry, so don't let that put you off.

Everyone who's even slightly interested in clever puzzle games should own it, especially considering how cheap it is.

It's got more to do with programming than chemistry. The creator has even come out and said he regretted making it chemistry-themed, as a lot of people had a lot of preconceptions about the game based on that.


What's the matter with dailies having 32 hours left on them? valve time?

I seem to remember from past sales that the daily deals stayed up for an hour or two after the next day's deals went up. 32 hours seems a bit excessive though.

Hypernetic
12-07-2012, 09:42 PM
Thoughts on Rayman? I feel like I could wait for it to be cheaper in the future.

vinraith
12-07-2012, 09:44 PM
Has anyone worked out whether the badges actually do anything?

Sketch
12-07-2012, 09:44 PM
Thoughts on Rayman? I feel like I could wait for it to be cheaper in the future.

One of the best platformers in years.

gundato
12-07-2012, 09:44 PM
Has anyone worked out whether the badges actually do anything?
Currently, no. But considering all you have to do to get them (thus far) is vote every day (when you are checking for deals), there is really no reason at all to not go for them.

vinraith
12-07-2012, 09:46 PM
Currently, no. But considering all you have to do to get them (thus far) is vote every day (when you are checking for deals), there is really no reason at all to not go for them.

That's one of them. There's the list of annoying tasks below that, a years on the site below that, and past event ones below that. The only one that requires meaningful effort is the second one, but I'm curious if there's any reason at all to bother.

F. Lynx Pardinus
12-07-2012, 09:47 PM
So far, the best-selling game of the Steam Summer Sale is...Arma 2. :-)

Flint
12-07-2012, 09:49 PM
That's one of them. There's the list of annoying tasks below that, a years on the site below that, and past event ones below that. The only one that requires meaningful effort is the second one, but I'm curious if there's any reason at all to bother.
Most likely no. A fair amount of sites with a large community emphasis these days feature badge systems like this (some even label it as achievements), which are essentially just flashier versions of post count numbers to say how much you've been involved with the community. The Steam ones essentially say "I've been here for x years and witnessed this and that metagame event". If there was anything deeper to them, knowing Valve they'd have stated it outright already.

vinraith
12-07-2012, 09:57 PM
So far, the best-selling game of the Steam Summer Sale is...Arma 2. :-)

Nope, it was just already at the top of the chart. I'm not sure how fast that top seller display rotates, but you'd have to wait one full cycle to figure out what's selling best in the sale.


Most likely no. A fair amount of sites with a large community emphasis these days feature badge systems like this (some even label it as achievements), which are essentially just flashier versions of post count numbers to say how much you've been involved with the community. The Steam ones essentially say "I've been here for x years and witnessed this and that metagame event". If there was anything deeper to them, knowing Valve they'd have stated it outright already.

Fair enough. Valve seems to enjoy being opaque, though, so I'm not sure I agree with your last sentence.

Revisor
12-07-2012, 10:02 PM
The top sellers have just updated and surprise surprise... Arma 2 CO is still at the first place, followed by the daily deals: the discounted Portal 2, Call of Duty MW3, Legend of Grimrock (congrats!!!) and Deus Ex HR.

alms
12-07-2012, 10:03 PM
I seem to remember from past sales that the daily deals stayed up for an hour or two after the next day's deals went up. 32 hours seems a bit excessive though.

Don't trust me, check for yourself. If I open a daily deal now, say Terraria, I get "deal ends in 31 hours".

vinraith
12-07-2012, 10:09 PM
Don't trust me, check for yourself. If I open a daily deal now, say Terraria, I get "deal ends in 31 hours".

I don't think he was doubting you, alms, just expressing surprise that Valve would run a "daily" deal that far beyond the 24 hour mark.

Flint
12-07-2012, 10:09 PM
Fair enough. Valve seems to enjoy being opaque, though, so I'm not sure I agree with your last sentence.
They tend to love being all teasy and vague when it comes to their own games and projects, but they've always been very open about any sort of limited time, sale-related meta game stuff in the past. Which kinda makes sense - imagine the rage that would happen if at the end of the sale they'd announce that everyone who 100%'d the Summer Sale 2012 badge gets some super special extra goodie.

---

Caved in, got my first sale purchase - the Missing Link DLC for DX:HR. Figured what the hell, it's only a short DLC mission and I'm not normally arsed about such things but MOAR DEUS EX etc.

vinraith
12-07-2012, 10:11 PM
@Flint

Good point.

The JG Man
12-07-2012, 10:20 PM
The choice daily will be available in 10 minutes, for those not keeping track. The replacement for Deus Ex in the flash will be in 40.

magnus1969
12-07-2012, 10:23 PM
Haven't spent anything yet, I've got bills to pay. :((
i've just caved-in and bought The Darkness II and Binary Domain. :O

F. Lynx Pardinus
12-07-2012, 10:24 PM
The choice daily will be available in 10 minutes, for those not keeping track.
Ha, Valve stuck in a disclaimer "In the event of manipulation or technical difficulties, Valve reserves the right to decide what goes on sale." Manipulation, heh. I'm not sure if that disclaimer was there earlier.

Flint
12-07-2012, 10:25 PM
Ha, Valve stuck in a disclaimer "In the event of manipulation or technical difficulties, Valve reserves the right to decide what goes on sale." Manipulation, heh. I'm not sure if that disclaimer was there earlier.
It's been there since the start of the sale, actually!

The JG Man
12-07-2012, 10:26 PM
Hmmm, I bet they just take it from a point at which it was clear manipulation hadn't started yet.

Flint
12-07-2012, 10:30 PM
Hoorah, Saints Row 3 won the vote!

F. Lynx Pardinus
12-07-2012, 10:31 PM
36/32/31. That was a pretty tight race.

TillEulenspiegel
12-07-2012, 10:32 PM
If the voting is restricted to paid Steam accounts (you definitely have to log in to vote), manipulation seems practically impossible.

So SR3 won. That's a little surprising. Maybe lots of people were voting for the biggest % discount.

Nalano
12-07-2012, 10:37 PM
So SR3 won. That's a little surprising. Maybe lots of people were voting for the biggest % discount.

Couldn't be the game itself. Nooooo...

TillEulenspiegel
12-07-2012, 10:41 PM
Couldn't be the game itself. Nooooo...
Like I said earlier, I was happy with all three options (though SR3 is censored in Germany and now I have to get a friend in the US to buy it for me, which is annoying).

I could be wrong, but I thought TW2 and Batman were significantly more popular. My gut feeling is that they have a much broader appeal.

alms
12-07-2012, 10:41 PM
I don't think he was doubting you, alms, just expressing surprise that Valve would run a "daily" deal that far beyond the 24 hour mark.

Didn't think that either. I'm still a little surprised and trying to get confirmation it's like that for everyone else too.


If the voting is restricted to paid Steam accounts (you definitely have to log in to vote), manipulation seems practically impossible.

There's plenty of people with multiple non-zero accounts, sales and (sadly) bundles make that possible.


Maybe lots of people were voting for the biggest % discount.

Had the same thought.

Hypernetic
12-07-2012, 10:42 PM
I voted for SR3 as well since I haven't picked it up yet, but I'm inclined to agree that it having a larger discount than the others played at least a part in it winning.

WHY MUST THEY MAKE ME WAIT TO BUY IT THOUGH WTF IS THIS?

DzX
12-07-2012, 10:43 PM
I could be wrong, but I thought TW2 and Batman were significantly more popular. My gut feeling is that they have a much broader appeal.

I agree, given the huge disparity between the three the discount percentage must have played a role; it's quite possibly something Valve were testing with that choice.

Nalano
12-07-2012, 10:44 PM
WHY MUST THEY MAKE ME WAIT TO BUY IT THOUGH WTF IS THIS?

ALL OF TWENTY MINUTES, THO

allcaps

Vandelay
12-07-2012, 10:46 PM
It may also be the popularity of the other two that made Saint's Row come out on top, as everyone is voting for the one they do not already have.

I'm sure the other two games will be regular daily deals though, at some point.

Flint
12-07-2012, 10:46 PM
I could be wrong, but I thought TW2 and Batman were significantly more popular. My gut feeling is that they have a much broader appeal.
You could probably try and find some specific reasons for the result (Witcher's been out the longest, Arkham City's DRM is a bit on the infamous side, etc) but end result was such an even battle that I think it's mainly just been more the luck of the draw rather than any grand motivations moving the results.

Protoman
12-07-2012, 10:50 PM
I voted for saint's row, but I though Batman would win it. I just wouldn't buy batman. Both arkham asylum and The Witcher 1 are on my backlog, and I refuse to buy the sequel until I'm finished with them.
Although it is weird they make you wait 20 minutes to buy it.

postinternetsyndrome
12-07-2012, 10:50 PM
I don't think he was doubting you, alms, just expressing surprise that Valve would run a "daily" deal that far beyond the 24 hour mark.Exactly. I checked it myself and saw that it was true. Maybe they've just extended the overlap, maybe they screwed up. Both are equally likely.


i've just caved-in and bought The Darkness II and Binary Domain. :OTake it easy. Wait until the last day to buy stuff that's not on a daily deal. They might come up as one during the sale and you might regret your brashness!

Tritagonist
12-07-2012, 10:52 PM
I voted for Saints Row III despite owning it, in hopes that the sale would include the DLC. And SR3 has tons of DLC, so that might have factored into this vote as well.

alms
12-07-2012, 10:54 PM
Apologies if that came off the wrong way, I wasn't meaning to piss off anyone.

Anyway, a game just disappeared from my storefront (not available in your region) and Shogun2 shows -0% discount.

Hypernetic
12-07-2012, 10:54 PM
ALL OF TWENTY MINUTES, THO

allcaps

I know, but why?

Tei
12-07-2012, 11:01 PM
I am going to vote for Trine 2.

Hypernetic
12-07-2012, 11:03 PM
WAT, where is my discount already?

Also, I am voting for Limbo because I want that game.

alms
12-07-2012, 11:04 PM
I am going to vote for Trine 2.

Same here.

Flint
12-07-2012, 11:04 PM
SR3 acquired. I'm happy, the one game I was specifically looking for from these sales and I got it on the first day.

Trine 2 vs Limbo vs Magicka now. My vote goes for Trine 2.

Universal Hamster
12-07-2012, 11:05 PM
WAT, where is my discount already?
Its there if you go to the store page.

F. Lynx Pardinus
12-07-2012, 11:05 PM
I voted for Saints Row III despite owning it, in hopes that the sale would include the DLC. And SR3 has tons of DLC, so that might have factored into this vote as well.

I'm going to pick up SR3 now, so which DLC is worth it? The Season Pack alone?

Hypernetic
12-07-2012, 11:05 PM
Is any of the SR3 DLC worth getting?

Mistabashi
12-07-2012, 11:06 PM
I'm going to pick up SR3 now, so which DLC is worth it? The Season Pack alone?

Pretty much, the rest is just fluff.

Protoman
12-07-2012, 11:07 PM
So I own every game in the new set to vote on. :/
I'll vote for trine 2 simply because it hasn't been on sale before, unlike magicka which is on sale every other week.

Ravelle
12-07-2012, 11:08 PM
Same here.

Ditto.

10char.

Protoman
12-07-2012, 11:15 PM
The SR3 DLC is showing up as 33% off for me?

TillEulenspiegel
12-07-2012, 11:15 PM
Magicka has constantly been on sale, Limbo has been bundled (I'm assuming, since I somehow own a copy even though I don't want it). Trine 2 is the obvious choice.

postinternetsyndrome
12-07-2012, 11:15 PM
Season pack is sort of worth it, rest is just clothes and novelty weapons. It seems the dlc is not extra discounted due to the vote though, I think it had the same discount as before.

Voted Magicka, so I might grab the new dlc for cheap. Already have Trine 2 and not interested in Limbo.

Tritagonist
12-07-2012, 11:19 PM
The SR3 DLC is showing up as 33% off for me?

Yep, it seems only the full game got the 75% reduction. Perhaps the DLC will be included if it pops up as a Daily Deal.

Protoman
12-07-2012, 11:24 PM
Yep, it seems only the full game got the 75% reduction. Perhaps the DLC will be included if it pops up as a Daily Deal.
Bah, that sucks.
Oh well.
I still didn't own SR3 before this.
But I think community/flash sales and the daily deals are separate. Otherwise that would kind of defeat the purpose. But I'm relatively sure the last day will be another one of those "Recap" days, except this time it will actually be helpful because you could easily sleep through a flash sale. Which is what is worrying me right now.

Gotem
12-07-2012, 11:25 PM
Trine 2! please vote Trine 2

alms
12-07-2012, 11:27 PM
Which is what is worrying me right now.

More than one actually. I think polyphasic sleep will really take off during this summer sale.

Lukasz
12-07-2012, 11:29 PM
im so happy... i was worried that i might be tempted to buy something. nah. lots of great prices, there are few games i want but... i don't see a point. i still need to finish gemini rue and half of dozen of other adventure games, baldurs gate trilogy (which i barely began) second playthrough of tw1 (as i lost my save) psychonauts, giants citizen kabuto, go back to EU3, finish up on Mass Effect 2... and so on and on.

pass :)

F. Lynx Pardinus
12-07-2012, 11:30 PM
The new flash sale is only 6 hours long, so 2 of them end at the same time. I thought they would be spaced evenly every 2 hours (sorta like how senators are elected in the USA), but apparently not.

Edit: Maybe because the Community sale is 8 hours long?

Sketch
12-07-2012, 11:36 PM
Trine 2! Make it happen!

The JG Man
12-07-2012, 11:56 PM
Shamelessly stolen from Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/wgisp/hidden_sales_on_steam_only_70_to_80), the 'hidden' sales that are unlikely to be dailies due to the percentage.



Alien Shooter and Zombie Shooter series (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1645/)-75%

Altitude (http://store.steampowered.com/app/41300/)-75%

And Yet it Moves (http://store.steampowered.com/app/18700/)-75%

Arcadia (http://store.steampowered.com/app/72500/)-75%

Audiosurf (http://store.steampowered.com/app/12900)-75%

Avencast: Rise of The mage (http://store.steampowered.com/app/46410)-75%

Bard's tale (http://store.steampowered.com/app/41900)-75%

Beat Hazard (http://store.steampowered.com/app/49600)-70%

Beep (http://store.steampowered.com/app/104200)-75%

Birth of America (http://store.steampowered.com/app/2930/)-75%

BIT.TRIP series (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/15562/)-75%

Blades of Time (http://store.steampowered.com/app/208670/)-75%

Bob Came in Pieces (http://store.steampowered.com/app/46000/) -75%

Booster Trooper (http://store.steampowered.com/app/27920/) -75%

Broken Sword trilogy (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/6447) -75%

Buccaneer: The Pursuit of Infamy (http://store.steampowered.com/app/23100) -75%

Caster (http://store.steampowered.com/app/29800) -75%

Chains (http://store.steampowered.com/app/11360) -75%

Choplifter HD (http://store.steampowered.com/app/202070) -75%

Chrome (http://store.steampowered.com/app/46420/) -75%

Combat Wings: Battle of Britain (http://store.steampowered.com/app/34820/) -75%

[Commandos Series(http://store.steampowered.com/sub/4156) -75%]

Critical Mass (http://store.steampowered.com/app/105300/) -75%

Delve Deeper -75% (http://store.steampowered.com/app/63800/)

Eufloria (http://store.steampowered.com/app/41210) -75%

Farm Frenzy Pack (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/2988) -75% (goty right here)

Fatale (http://store.steampowered.com/app/27050/) -75%

Fire Burst (http://store.steampowered.com/app/207190/) -70%

Fluttabyes (http://store.steampowered.com/app/23150/) -75%

Galcon Fusion (http://store.steampowered.com/app/44200/) -75%

Garshasp: The Monster Slayer (http://store.steampowered.com/app/99400/) -75%

Ghost Master (http://store.steampowered.com/app/6200/) -70%

Gish (http://store.steampowered.com/app/9500/) -75%

Grand Ages: Rome (http://store.steampowered.com/app/23450/) -75%

Gravitron 2 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/21300/) -75%

Greed Corp (http://store.steampowered.com/app/48950) -75%

Gumboy - Crazy Adventures (http://store.steampowered.com/app/2520/) -75%

Guns of Icarus (http://store.steampowered.com/app/49800/) -75%

Hard Reset (http://store.steampowered.com/app/98400/) -75%

Helldorado (http://store.steampowered.com/app/18470/) -75%

Hydrophobia: Prophecy (http://store.steampowered.com/app/92000/) -75%

Ignite (http://store.steampowered.com/app/45410/) -75%

Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns (http://store.steampowered.com/app/97110/) -75%

Lugaru HD (http://store.steampowered.com/app/25010/) -75%

Lume (http://store.steampowered.com/app/105100/) -75%

Mole Control (http://store.steampowered.com/app/23130/) -75%

Monster Trucks Nitro (http://store.steampowered.com/app/16620/) -75%

Mr. Robot (http://store.steampowered.com/app/20710/) -75%

Nightsky (http://store.steampowered.com/app/99700/) -75%

Nikopol: Secrets of the Immortals (http://store.steampowered.com/app/11370/) -75%

Nimbus (http://store.steampowered.com/app/50000/) -75%

Ninja Blade (http://store.steampowered.com/app/37010/) -75%

Numen: Contest of Heroes (http://store.steampowered.com/app/60800/) -75%

Obulis (http://store.steampowered.com/app/11330/) -75%

Order of War (http://store.steampowered.com/app/34600/) -75%

Order of War: Challenge (http://store.steampowered.com/app/34670/) -75%

Osmos (http://store.steampowered.com/app/29180/) -70%

Penumbra Black Plague (http://store.steampowered.com/app/22120/) and Overture (http://store.steampowered.com/app/22180/) -75%

Pixeljunk Eden (http://store.steampowered.com/app/105800/) -80%

Plain Sight (http://store.steampowered.com/app/49900/) -75%

Post Mortem (http://store.steampowered.com/app/46550/) -75%

Project Freedom (http://store.steampowered.com/app/34810/) -75%

Rag Doll Kung-Fu (http://store.steampowered.com/app/1002/) -75%

RIP - Trilogy (http://store.steampowered.com/app/2540/) -75%

Robin Hood: The Legend of Sherwood (http://store.steampowered.com/app/46560/) -75%

Romance of Rome (http://store.steampowered.com/app/38190/) -75%

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky (http://store.steampowered.com/app/41700/) and Call of Pripyat (http://store.steampowered.com/app/41700/) -50%

Sacraboar (http://store.steampowered.com/app/40500/) -80%

Shatter (http://store.steampowered.com/app/20820/) -75%

Solar 2 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/97000/) -75%

Sol Survivor (http://store.steampowered.com/app/45000/) -75%

Space Giraffe (http://store.steampowered.com/app/27800/) -75%

Star Ruler (http://store.steampowered.com/app/70900/) -75%

Stellar Impact (http://store.steampowered.com/app/207150/) -75%

Still Life I (http://store.steampowered.com/app/46480/) & II (http://store.steampowered.com/app/46490/) -75%

Swords And Soldiers HD (http://store.steampowered.com/app/63500/) -75%

Syberia I (http://store.steampowered.com/app/46500/) & II (http://store.steampowered.com/app/46510/) -75%

Tank Universal (http://store.steampowered.com/app/19200/) -75%

The Maw (http://store.steampowered.com/app/26000/) -75%

The Polynomial - Space of the music (http://store.steampowered.com/app/67000/) -75%

The Ship (http://store.steampowered.com/app/2400/) -75%

Time Gentlemen, Please! and Ben There, Dan That! Special Edition (http://store.steampowered.com/app/37400/) -80%

Tobe's Vertical Adventure (http://store.steampowered.com/app/105700/) -75%

Toki Tori (http://store.steampowered.com/app/38700/) -75%

Trials 2: Second Edition (http://store.steampowered.com/app/16600/) -75%

Trino (http://store.steampowered.com/app/42000/) -75%

Wasteland Angel (http://store.steampowered.com/app/46520/) -75%

Wings of Prey (http://store.steampowered.com/app/45300/) -75%

World of Goo (http://store.steampowered.com/app/22000/) -75%

Xotic (http://store.steampowered.com/app/92600/) -75%

Your Doodles are Bugged! (http://store.steampowered.com/app/95500/) -75%

Zeno Clash (http://store.steampowered.com/app/22200/) -70%

Zero Gear (http://store.steampowered.com/app/18820/) -75%

Zombie Driver (http://store.steampowered.com/app/31410/) -75%

Edawan
12-07-2012, 11:58 PM
Definitely picking up SR3.
Now I'm on the fence about the Season Pass. I guess I'll wait till the end of the sale to see if it's in a daily discount.

gganate
13-07-2012, 12:01 AM
Does anyone recommend Shogun 2 for someone who's only previous strategy experiences were with Rise of Nations and Age of Empires? I've played Rome: Total War just a bit, and it didn't grab me.

So far I've bought Mirror's Edge and Saint's Row 3.

Raaritsgozilla
13-07-2012, 12:03 AM
Ive heard only good things about Gish. May pick it up

LOL JK

The JG Man
13-07-2012, 12:03 AM
What about Rome didn't you like? If it was just the setting, there's a chance you'd enjoy Shogun 2. If it was the style, general game-play etc. I can't imagine you finding it enjoyable. There is a demo, however.

gganate
13-07-2012, 12:06 AM
I'm really bad at strategy games, having only played a few. I guess for seven bucks, that's not too much to waste.

The JG Man
13-07-2012, 12:12 AM
Try the demo, dude. Why waste that much when you can avoid wasting any?

mnemnoch
13-07-2012, 12:14 AM
Just a heads up to those who want to buy SR3 and can transact in Amazon. Quote from CAG



Originally Posted by Amazon DVG Deals http://cdnroot.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9780446#post9780446)
Hey guys,

Not trying to build hype on this SRTT deal just letting you know why we aren't matching. We will have the base game for 24 hours for at least the same price but I'm pushing for $9.99. The reason we aren't mattching is because $9.99 looks more likely than.not but if we match now we preclude ourselves from that deal.

If $12.49 on Steam sounds like a good deal feel free to grab it now, we will have at least the same for 24 hours with a strong possibility of $9.99. That is the current 100% transparent situation.

Cheers,
Tony

TillEulenspiegel
13-07-2012, 12:21 AM
That's fantastic, thanks for posting. I'll just wait then and get it from Amazon without bothering my friend.

trjp
13-07-2012, 12:22 AM
Another game with a phat discount despite not being a special (and unlikely to be cheaper in a special) is YS: The Oath in Felghana which is 66% off right now (the other YS game is only 40% off).

YS: TOIF is part of the Day 5 bundle if the leaks are to be believed tho - but I own everything else in that bundle so it seems unlikely I'd be better off unless they really mix things up and I quite fancy this for some weird reason (talk me out of it!!)

trjp
13-07-2012, 12:22 AM
Ive heard only good things about Gish. May pick it up

LOL JK

It was in the first Humble Bundle (and thus also in the 2nd and 3rd) IIRC? It's fun but it gets pretty frustrating in places - I gave up in disgust after a while...

trjp
13-07-2012, 12:25 AM
Shamelessly stolen from Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/wgisp/hidden_sales_on_steam_only_70_to_80), *snip*

Note that list has been expanded on quite a bit from the alphabetical list you copied over - LOADS more titles on there now.

F. Lynx Pardinus
13-07-2012, 12:25 AM
Just a heads up to those who want to buy SR3 and can transact in Amazon. Quote from CAG

Cue Dueling Banjos music. Is Amazon the banjo or the guitar?

The JG Man
13-07-2012, 12:32 AM
Note that list has been expanded on quite a bit from the alphabetical list you copied over - LOADS more titles on there now.

Might be worth it if the OP just steals that list and inserts it into the, well, OP. I'm not surprised though. I thought that list was a bit short.

trjp
13-07-2012, 12:44 AM
Another way of seeing all the deep discounts is this site

http://www.steamgamesales.com/

Sort by discount rate descending works AOK - although DLC appears too which makes the list a bit of a chore to hack through...

It also covers other sites so may show you where competitors are matching or beating Steam (esp useful for GamersGate and the folks who get the extra discounts there)

Wheelz
13-07-2012, 12:46 AM
Just a heads up to those who want to buy SR3 and can transact in Amazon. Quote from CAG

Is Saints Row the Third Steam-works? (as in, will amazon sell me a Steam-key?)

mnemnoch
13-07-2012, 01:00 AM
Err, He didn't say anything about if its a steam key or what. But the PC download for SR3 in Amazon needed steam. Btw, he said it will go live next week. Just check the thread in CAG for updates.
---------------

I thinking of picking up the Bethsoft pack in steam, mainly just to experience what other people said about Skyrim. Are Brink and Hunted sort of okay?

neema_t
13-07-2012, 01:03 AM
All I want from this sale is cheap (75% off) Arkham City DLC (for Harley Quinn's Revenge) which doesn't look like it'll happen now, Arma II:CO to be around £10-15 so I can get it for a friend whose birthday is so annoyingly well-timed that I can't not. Max Payne 3, AssRev and Skyrim are also three things I can see myself picking up if the price is right, but in all three cases I somehow doubt they will be. MP3 would have to be around £10-15 (especially as I've pretty much finished it my brother's PS3 copy already), AssRev £5 and Skyrim no more than £10 as it's not my kind of game, I'm much more a 'guns and power armour' type of RPG player than 'swords and having a dragon dad' type or whatever, however I do want to play it a little bit.

Any racing sim I don't already have, which is none of them, will be immediately bought. DCS: Black Shark, Myst and Riven are all already in my cart as I'm sure they won't get any cheaper as they're not exactly daily deal material. The thing is I'm prone to fits of buying things JUST because they're cheap, not because I particularly want them.

Edit: BTTF just replaced Mafia II... I'm pretty sure I won't have to care about the flash sales too much.



I thinking of picking up the Bethsoft pack in steam, mainly just to experience what other people said about Skyrim. Are Brink and Hunted sort of okay?

Define 'sort of okay'? I only know about Brink, and what I know is that it died pretty quickly and when I played it if I dared to press Esc to pause the game it would unbind all of my controls so that I couldn't resume the game. Apart from that it's a decidedly mediocre shooter with a pretty poorly implemented, underused parkour system added on, the level design just didn't provide enough opportunity to use it in my opinion. Also there's no actual single player mode, it's just online mode but with (terrible, as you'd expect) bots.

F. Lynx Pardinus
13-07-2012, 01:05 AM
I'm pretty sure I won't have to care about the flash sales too much.
I'm guessing that Summer Flash Deals are the equivalent of normal Daily Deals, and Summer Daily Deals are the equivalent of normal Weekend Deals.

Sketch
13-07-2012, 01:14 AM
Ooh, if Spellforce 2 goes on sale, that would be good.

Protoman
13-07-2012, 01:15 AM
I'm guessing that Summer Flash Deals are the equivalent of normal Daily Deals, and Summer Daily Deals are the equivalent of normal Weekend Deals.
On the contrary, these flash sales are way better than most daily deals. We got Deus Ex, Rayman, and a barely 2 months old title for 75% off that was originally listed as $20. At best, the normal daily deals are good indie games. And that's only happened twice by my memory.
Also note that the comparison is pointless; the summer/christmas sale is not only when the most amount of things go on sale, but the things that go on sale often stretch their discounts farther than they would in a weekend deal to stand out from the other 200 discounted games.

mnemnoch
13-07-2012, 01:24 AM
Define 'sort of okay'? I only know about Brink, and what I know is that it died pretty quickly and when I played it if I dared to press Esc to pause the game it would unbind all of my controls so that I couldn't resume the game. Apart from that it's a decidedly mediocre shooter with a pretty poorly implemented, underused parkour system added on, the level design just didn't provide enough opportunity to use it in my opinion. Also there's no actual single player mode, it's just online mode but with (terrible, as you'd expect) bots.

Well, I read some bad opinions and reviews about Brink and Hunted but since they are just freebies for the 49.99 that I will pay for Skyrim and F:NV I wanted to know if its worth my time to download and install those 2 games.

And thanks for the opinion about Brink.

squareking
13-07-2012, 02:10 AM
It was in the first Humble Bundle (and thus also in the 2nd and 3rd) IIRC? It's fun but it gets pretty frustrating in places - I gave up in disgust after a while...

If you ctrl + A, you'll get a nice surprise.

:D

trjp
13-07-2012, 02:17 AM
Well, I read some bad opinions and reviews about Brink and Hunted but since they are just freebies for the 49.99 that I will pay for Skyrim and F:NV I wanted to know if its worth my time to download and install those 2 games.

And thanks for the opinion about Brink.

I have Hunted and I utterly and totally despise it.

It's a third-person ARPG with waist-high walls and about 50% of the game is cutscenes...

Think Gears of Wars with magic and bows and arrows and you're on the way there!

I cannot even bring myself to say anything else about it - I hate it THAT much (Note that I never got as far as co-op which MIGHT improve matters - certainly it couldn't be worse than the moronic companion AI).

johnki
13-07-2012, 02:50 AM
Can anyone who generally likes turn-based games and/or strategy games give me an opinion on Delve Deeper? Kinda interested in the fact that it's multiplayer and about a dwarf mining team.

EDIT: Also, is the Binding of Isaac DLC worth the extra buck?

vinraith
13-07-2012, 03:45 AM
Can anyone who generally likes turn-based games and/or strategy games give me an opinion on Delve Deeper? Kinda interested in the fact that it's multiplayer and about a dwarf mining team.

EDIT: Also, is the Binding of Isaac DLC worth the extra buck?

Delve Deeper's multiplayer is hotseat only, just to make sure you know.

Protoman
13-07-2012, 03:59 AM
is the Binding of Isaac DLC worth the extra buck?
Yes, it is, imo.
But I would wait on Isaac, it's a pretty likely flash deal/indie bundle game.

johnki
13-07-2012, 04:10 AM
Yes, it is, imo.
But I would wait on Isaac, it's a pretty likely flash deal/indie bundle game.
I have the base game and the expansion is $1.24. I don't really feel like it's worth being cheaper.


Delve Deeper's multiplayer is hotseat only, just to make sure you know.Nevermind. Four people crowded around a single keyboard is only fun when B.U.T.T.O.N. is involved.

Nalano
13-07-2012, 04:35 AM
I have Hunted and I utterly and totally despise it.

But snarky elf chick!

Anthile
13-07-2012, 04:49 AM
I'm torn. I really want to get some weapon DLC for Saints Row 3 for an inevitable second playthrough but it just seems like incredibly poor value for money. Especially now that I can get an entire new game for the same amount of cash. Hngh.

RobF
13-07-2012, 04:54 AM
Aside from the shark and octopus guns, there's nothing else really worth bothering with. Even they're debatable.

Wheelz
13-07-2012, 05:14 AM
Holy-buggy mess of confusion batman! Steam seems really, uh, below standard with this sale. I'm currently seeing Warlock and Rayman still listed as Flash sales, despite having smaller discounts than earlier, and with remaining times of 10 days. Additionally, the cost of buying Heroes 6 - Delux, is cheaper than buying heroes 6 -standard, by about $2. as well as the Heroes pack containing nothing for most of the day.

I know it's the first day, and they're expected to have issues with traffic, and ocassionally some with sales; but this does seem quite a bit buggier than usual.

Leopig
13-07-2012, 05:15 AM
Just a note to anyone after Dues Ex: The missing link DLC it is cheaper on Gamersgate by 40p

RobF
13-07-2012, 05:38 AM
The flash sales not showing are Spellforce and Darksiders, for what it's worth.

Leopig
13-07-2012, 05:40 AM
Darksiders is decent, picked it up for £5 off origin a few weeks back in their summer sale. Not finished it yet though.

internetonsetadd
13-07-2012, 05:40 AM
Time's running out on SR3. $12.49 for the base game, or $24.99 for the franchise pack. This is kind of why I hate DLC. I probably don't need all that extra stuff, but I don't want to buy just the game and find out later that I probably should have gotten the DLC while I had the chance (happened with Just Cause 2). $25 is more than I want to spend on any one thing right at the beginning of the summer sale, so I guess I'll skip it entirely and maybe come back to it next year.

Leopig
13-07-2012, 05:42 AM
SR3 is worth it without the DLC, the cheats add enough to the game (Zombie mode FTW)

RobF
13-07-2012, 05:44 AM
Yeah, aside from a few difficulty spikes, I enjoyed Darksiders. Still haven't finished it either, will get round to it though.

Also agreed, don't worry about the SR3 DLC. Most of it is cosmetic and the season pass stuff is short enough to not be worth stressing over.

internetonsetadd
13-07-2012, 05:50 AM
You both know I was about to save myself $13, right?

vinraith
13-07-2012, 06:03 AM
Again, SR3 is going to be $9.99 on Amazon next week, no need for an impulse buy at a higher price.

fiddlesticks
13-07-2012, 06:21 AM
Ive heard only good things about Gish. May pick it up
I've recommended a lot of games over the last few sales. For Gish, I'd like to give an anti-recommendation. It's a terrible game with absolutely no redeeming features. Even its creator admitted that it was basically a failure on every level.


EDIT: Also, is the Binding of Isaac DLC worth the extra buck?
In terms of content, definitely. It almost doubles the original game when it comes to items, enemies and rooms. Just be aware that it also makes the whole experience a lot harder and even after half a dozen patches there are still some nasty bugs that have yet to be ironed out. If you don't mind that, go for it.

Leopig
13-07-2012, 06:37 AM
Sooo Trine 2 won the people choice... hope they have better choice for the next vote. DA2 hopefully.

Boris
13-07-2012, 06:45 AM
Trine 2 is an amazing game. I already have all three of those games though, and I expect a lot of people with me.

Wheelz
13-07-2012, 06:56 AM
Looks like Warlock and Rayman have had there Flash timers reset, so they now expire at the same time as BTTF.

cowthief skank
13-07-2012, 07:00 AM
Did anybody else's mobile app appear to start itself overnight? I never start mine, but it was logged in this morning, and I happened to check my friend status and he was showing as away on a mobile device, which I have never seen him before. Anybody else?

Leopig
13-07-2012, 07:03 AM
And another 3 rubbish games in the community choice. I guess this is the bargain bucket section of the sale with the hard movers.

Brink
Ghost Recon 2
Stronghold 3 (never even heard of it so must be gash)

renhoelder
13-07-2012, 07:06 AM
I'm gonne pop my Summer Seal 2012 cherry with Trine 2.

Anybody know if the 3D will work on a TV with passive 3D too (like Sonic Generations) or is it Nividia only?

squirrelfanatic
13-07-2012, 07:14 AM
Did anybody else's mobile app appear to start itself overnight? I never start mine, but it was logged in this morning, and I happened to check my friend status and he was showing as away on a mobile device, which I have never seen him before. Anybody else?I don't own a Smartphone/Android, but this morning I saw an US friend of mine going online on his mobile only for a few seconds (~15secs) before going offline again. Coincidence?

jnx
13-07-2012, 07:20 AM
Stronghold 3 (never even heard of it so must be gash)

Stronghold 3 was in terrible condition upon release and I haven't tried the latest version so I don't know if it's enough better to justify buying at any price. However you really should have heard of the franchise, Stronghold 1 is still awesome and I recommend you play it.

Herzog
13-07-2012, 07:24 AM
Did anybody else's mobile app appear to start itself overnight? I never start mine, but it was logged in this morning, and I happened to check my friend status and he was showing as away on a mobile device, which I have never seen him before. Anybody else?

Yup. Started here too, reminding me of the summer sale. But I already bought CKII plus Sword of Islam yesterday! Dont need no reminder!

Protoman
13-07-2012, 07:30 AM
The store finally appears to be working?
SpellForce 2, Darksiders, and sanctum for flash?
I can say that sanctum is worth $2.50.
Is darksiders worth it? I've heard that it kind of copies a bunch of games but that it was sort of decent regardless.
Also, what is spellforce 2? The trailer explained nothing, and the screenshots are just confusing... yes, it's strategy, but is it an RTS like C&C with some RPG thrown in? Is it a baldur's gate like game?
Voting for ghost recon, as I don't really care about stronghold (plus I think it's gone on sale quite a bit) and brink was really bad. Plus with the 75% it's a mere $2.50.
Edit:
I decided to calculate what brink/stronghold would be with the discount.
Brink would be $5, kind of debatably worth it if you like FPS games.
Stronghold would be about $14. Keep in mind the metacritic for this game is 47. Yes, I know it's often inaccurate, but when your metacritic is 47 you probably deserved it.

PeteC
13-07-2012, 07:34 AM
Didn't think there was anything for me on the first day but finally cracked and bought the SR3 Funtime Pack DLC for £3.

dancanman
13-07-2012, 07:35 AM
So we're on the third community choice and they're already scraping the barrel with a buggy game, and an old/cheap game? Hopefully that's just because this sale is going during the wee hours of the morning, otherwise this may be more of a disappointment then I thought.

GRAW2 - normally $9.99, $2.5 after 75% discount (currently $6.99, 33% off)
Brink - normally 19.99, $5 after 75% discount (currently $11.99, 40% off)
Stronghold 3 - normally 39.99(!), $14 after 65% discount (currently $29.99, 25% off)

I guess I'll go GRAW2.

TechnoJellyfish
13-07-2012, 07:44 AM
Is darksiders worth it? I've heard that it kind of copies a bunch of games but that it was sort of decent regardless.

Yeah, it borrows heavily from the Zelda series with a combat system not unlike God of War and an aesthetic style similar to the one found in the Warhammer 40K universe, but it's quite competent in doing so. I'd definitely recommend it if any of the above sounds appealing to you.

jnx
13-07-2012, 07:50 AM
Also, what is spellforce 2? The trailer explained nothing, and the screenshots are just confusing... yes, it's strategy, but is it an RTS like C&C with some RPG thrown in? Is it a baldur's gate like game?

Spellforce franchise is kind of hard to explain. It's German and has all the things one would attribute to that. Think the closest comparison would be Warcraft 3, but it's still very far fetched. You have hero units, there's persistent progression, there's base building and producing units. It's a curious mix at least, but doesn't really excel in any area. Haven't played this latest one that just got released but I doubt there's anything revolutionary there.



and brink was really bad. Plus with the 75% it's a mere $2.50.


No, it actually wasn't. Bumpy launch it had, yes, but that's the case with pretty much every release now. Brink was actually a solid objective based shooter, problem was that people failed to realize it isn't a "modern realistic shooter". It's more akin to Team Fortress 2 than CoD and BF.

Bleekill
13-07-2012, 07:57 AM
First purchase is Trine 2 for my girlfriend and I. I want Saints Row 3 and CK2 but I need to pace myself, I'll probably get CK2 anyways though.

Flint
13-07-2012, 08:02 AM
Is darksiders worth it? I've heard that it kind of copies a bunch of games but that it was sort of decent regardless.

Soul Reaver meets Zelda that displays its influences VERY prominently. However, you could do a lot worse than copying two fantastic games. It's incredibly derivative in terms of gameplay, but manages to establish its own world fairly nicely and is generally really well made. It's a good game and if you enjoy Zeldas or Soul Reaver, even more the reason to get it.

asskicker
13-07-2012, 08:03 AM
Wait, what happened to the previous community choice? When I went to bed you still had to choose for Witcher 2 or something and when I woke up the deal is Trine 2? Don't tell me Saints Row III won, I wanted to buy that game. :(

vurogj
13-07-2012, 08:05 AM
Wait, what happened to the previous community choice? When I went to bed you still had to choose for Witcher 2 or something and when I woke up the deal is Trine 2? Don't tell me Saints Row III won, I wanted to buy that game. :(
Then, sadly, I'm afraid I can't tell you what won.

thegooseking
13-07-2012, 08:12 AM
What's Star Wars: TFU2 like? I did not enjoy the original on Xbox because it took four full seconds to turn 360 degrees with no way to change the controller sensitivity. That's good for a sniper game, but not a lightsaber game. And yet, it seems like a game that's designed for controller.

So if the controls are just as terrible in TFU2 on PC, I won't bother. But I'd like to give it a go if the controls are improved.

Boris
13-07-2012, 08:12 AM
Did anybody else's mobile app appear to start itself overnight? I never start mine, but it was logged in this morning, and I happened to check my friend status and he was showing as away on a mobile device, which I have never seen him before. Anybody else?


No and if it did I'd uninstall it in a flash. The mobile app is nice and all, but I choose when it runs, not the other way around.

squirrelfanatic
13-07-2012, 08:20 AM
Spellforce franchise is kind of hard to explain. It's German and has all the things one would attribute to that. Think the closest comparison would be Warcraft 3, but it's still very far fetched.Just out of curiositiy, what things do you attribute to a German game?

Flint
13-07-2012, 08:40 AM
Wait, what happened to the previous community choice? When I went to bed you still had to choose for Witcher 2 or something and when I woke up the deal is Trine 2? Don't tell me Saints Row III won, I wanted to buy that game. :(
The community vote deals run roughly on 8-hour timers. Sadly, you chose a healthy amount of sleep over Saints Row.

renhoelder
13-07-2012, 08:41 AM
Wait, what happened to the previous community choice? When I went to bed you still had to choose for Witcher 2 or something and when I woke up the deal is Trine 2? Don't tell me Saints Row III won, I wanted to buy that game. :(

SRIII will be available on amazon next week, for at least that price, maybe even less, so you can get it there.

Revisor
13-07-2012, 08:44 AM
Wait, what happened to the previous community choice? When I went to bed you still had to choose for Witcher 2 or something and when I woke up the deal is Trine 2? Don't tell me Saints Row III won, I wanted to buy that game. :(
Saints Row 3 will have "a similar or possibly a better deal" on Amazon next week.

Edit: Ninja'ed by another kind soul.

Flint
13-07-2012, 08:45 AM
Regarding the current flash deals - if you have Sanctum and enjoy playing it, I really suggest investing on the DLC: the maps are all excellent and bring lovely variety to things, and the Violator and Killing Floor towers are excellent tactical choices. The soundtrack is really well worth a purchase too - if you enjoyed it in the game, you'll really adore it once you hear it in combat-free environment where all the details in sound truly reveal themselves.

fiddlesticks
13-07-2012, 08:48 AM
Just out of curiositiy, what things do you attribute to a German game?
Let's have a look at Wikipedia's list of popular video games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_gaming_in_Germany) from Germany:




The Great Giana Sisters

Turrican
Kitakis
Ambermoon
Yo! Joe
Far Cry
Anstoss
Gothic series
Risen
Crysis


Actually, I have no idea what most of these games have in common. One word titles?

asskicker
13-07-2012, 08:58 AM
SRIII will be available on amazon next week, for at least that price, maybe even less, so you can get it there.

Ah thanks guys, it's a steamwork game right?

renhoelder
13-07-2012, 09:01 AM
Indeed it is.

jnx
13-07-2012, 09:06 AM
Just out of curiositiy, what things do you attribute to a German game?

Guess I'll narrow it down to German RPG. But yea, generally great graphics but wacky animation. Corny dialog and plot, poor voice acting (in english). Good "spirit" but generally clunky or awkward execution. Either very generic or very odd. Boob armour and odd body shapes. Don't get me wrong though, I like many German games.

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/540680885195438196/7381445C43439C06CBF7BDB7BD7CAD5444A0FDCA/

Revisor
13-07-2012, 09:21 AM
Guess I'll narrow it down to German RPG. But yea, generally great graphics but wacky animation. Corny dialog and plot, poor voice acting (in english). Good "spirit" but generally clunky or awkward execution. Either very generic or very odd. Boob armour and odd body shapes.
Unlike with the US AAA titles where it's all about graphics titles in Germany they invest into huge, hand made detailed worlds with lots of secrets, nooks and treasures - Gothic, Risen, Sacred, Dragon Knight Saga etc.

Also Spec Ops seems to blow people away with the characters and the story.

Actually I don't think there is any point in generalizing like this.

jnx
13-07-2012, 09:25 AM
Unlike with the US AAA titles where it's all about graphics titles in Germany they invest into huge, hand made detailed worlds with lots of secrets, nooks and treasures - Gothic, Risen, Sacred, Dragon Knight Saga etc.


Somewhere there is probably supposed to be some punctuation that would make me understand what you're actually saying.

EDIT: Nevermind, it's probably supposed to be read like this:


Unlike with the US AAA titles where it's all about graphics, titles in Germany invest into huge, hand made detailed worlds with lots of secrets, nooks and treasures - Gothic, Risen, Sacred, Dragon Knight Saga etc.


Yes they do. But it's not the US AAA titles that have great graphics, it's the German ones. Dragon Age 2 for example has piss-poor graphical quality on PC. Now all those games you listed suffer from the general awkwardness and clunky execution that I listed as an attribute of German RPGs, so they don't really counter my assesment. And boob armour and odd body shapes.

Strazz
13-07-2012, 09:38 AM
Anyone know if there's an easy way to list all flash deals? Warlock: Master of the Arcane had a flash deal for € 6.79 but it didn't show up on the front page so I almost missed it.

jnx
13-07-2012, 09:41 AM
It was on the frontpage.

Tritagonist
13-07-2012, 09:48 AM
There might have been a temporary problem with Warlock which caused you to miss it (some items still from time to time show up as 'Not available in your Region' until a refresh). When I first saw it it was listed as lasting around '10 days 5 hours', so they might have reset it just at the moment you loaded the page.

Strazz
13-07-2012, 09:50 AM
They only show four games at a time on that little "Flash Sales" sidebar. For me it's been Dark Siders, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II, Sanctum and SpellForce 2: Faith in Destiny for the past couple of hours.

Must have been a bug then, but it would be nice if they had a link to all Flash Sales on that sidebar.

Tritagonist
13-07-2012, 09:52 AM
I didn't take a screenshot, but I do know that Warlock was up around midnight last night, so if it lasted around 6 hours it would make sense that it's no longer there - and hasn't been for a while.

johnki
13-07-2012, 10:02 AM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/1670/?snr=1_7_suggest__13

I saw this and started wishing that Steel Beasts Pro PE were on Steam. At 75% off, I'd be much more able to afford $25 than the usual price.

On another note, how does DCS: A-10C Warthog stack up to DCS: Black Shark? If I enjoy Black Shark, I might sink the money into A-10C, and later into the Black Shark 2 upgrade, since at the price it is now, Black Shark + the upgrade to BS2 is $15 less than BS2's normal price. :P

squirrelfanatic
13-07-2012, 10:03 AM
Yes they do. But it's not the US AAA titles that have great graphics, it's the German ones. Dragon Age 2 for example has piss-poor graphical quality on PC. Now all those games you listed suffer from the general awkwardness and clunky execution that I listed as an attribute of German RPGs, so they don't really counter my assesment. And boob armour and odd body shapes.I guess I see what your point is, however I don't fully agree with it. The list of features/quirks in your post above can be found in a lot of games (especially boob armour, good graphics, awkward animations) and probably is not a good indicator of a game's origin. There are simply too many studios that produce too many games of differing quality to make a general statement about games from a certain region/nationality. I mean, look at Crysis. Great graphics? Yeah. Same can be said for, say, Mass Effect or Skyrim. Quirky animations and clunky execution? I don't think so.

Solarj
13-07-2012, 10:27 AM
Would post my own thread but cant yet.

Has anyone seen the steam badges?

Check out your steam profile. We have achievements for steam now and this includes summer sale achievements!

Stealth release and retrospective of your previous steam interactions

In response to thread, most looking forward to insanely twisted shadow planet :)

deano2099
13-07-2012, 10:43 AM
They appear to have fixed the CK2 complete pack now, by the way.

mnemnoch
13-07-2012, 11:30 AM
Why is the daily deals lasting 1 1/2 day instead of just 24 hours?

byteCrunch
13-07-2012, 11:35 AM
Why is the daily deals lasting 1 1/2 day instead of just 24 hours?

Gives people a chance to get them who may have missed them, they did the same last year, adding a few extra hours for last minutes purchasers.

The JG Man
13-07-2012, 12:03 PM
Darksiders has 5 hours left as a flash sale.

Buy it. Buy it hard. It is a great game, competent in all regards and is probably the best Zelda game releases this generation (not including handhelds, because I don't know).

alms
13-07-2012, 12:31 PM
Regarding the current flash deals - if you have Sanctum and enjoy playing it, I really suggest investing on the DLC: the maps are all excellent and bring lovely variety to things, and the Violator and Killing Floor towers are excellent tactical choices. The soundtrack is really well worth a purchase too - if you enjoyed it in the game, you'll really adore it once you hear it in combat-free environment where all the details in sound truly reveal themselves.

Seconded, in fact I already bought all the DLCs I was missing for peanuts in an earlier sale. The OST however is available on bandcamp PWYW.

Sanctum FPS-TD : OST | Coffee Stain Studios (http://coffeestainstudios.bandcamp.com/album/sanctum-fps-td-ost)

mnemnoch
13-07-2012, 12:42 PM
Darksiders has 5 hours left as a flash sale.

Buy it. Buy it hard. It is a great game, competent in all regards and is probably the best Zelda game releases this generation (not including handhelds, because I don't know).


Ugh!! I bought Darksiders in Steam a while ago, and guess what?! Green man Gaming have their own "winter" sale and offering Darksiders for 4.98. With the 20% coupon it end up 3.99

Anyway a dollar is not that big deal. I'll wait to use my coupons in the likes of GW2

Mohorovicic
13-07-2012, 12:50 PM
Before you buy Darksiders do make sure you have a gamepad to play it, because the Keyboard and mouse controls are abyssmal and, of course, cannot be changed.

Or you know what? Don't buy it at all for the sole reason that the controls cannot be changed. We don't need more shitty console ports.

mnemnoch
13-07-2012, 01:00 PM
Er, Relax man..

My Credit card agreed with you but my fingers click those purchase button still.

Warble
13-07-2012, 01:08 PM
Both Dark Messiah Might and Magic (http://store.steampowered.com/app/2100/) (£1.49) and Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes (http://store.steampowered.com/app/61700/) (£2.99) are included in the daily deal but not listed with the rest.

I've heard generally favourable opinions of DM on the forums. Worth a purchase?

Tei
13-07-2012, 01:14 PM
Its a classic. Its worth 5 or perhaps 7 eur. Its very old and use the source engine, so it may stop working after a few days and still worth these 5 eur. ( i am talking about dark mesiah )E

trjp
13-07-2012, 01:15 PM
Or you know what? Don't buy it at all for the sole reason that the controls cannot be changed. We don't need more shitty console ports.

Grow up - it's an third-person action game - they work best with controllers and if you don't own a controller, wtf are you doing in a gaming forum???

Keyboard/Mouse is NOT the panacea people like you would make it out to be - it's good for FPSes - essential for RTSs and Strategy titles but relatively shit for action games like platformers or decent hack and slashes (Diablo being a click-to-death instead!)

Spengbab
13-07-2012, 01:15 PM
Dark Messiah is definately worth it, great FPS-RPG-thing (dat roof-chase). Not too wordy, great setting. Also, poison spiders.

Edawan
13-07-2012, 01:20 PM
Before you buy Darksiders do make sure you have a gamepad to play it, because the Keyboard and mouse controls are abyssmal and, of course, cannot be changed.

Yeah Darksiders is the game that finally made me buy a controller, which I don't regret at all; it has served me well, since !

Revisor
13-07-2012, 01:33 PM
Dark Messiah is great, call it Dishonored 0.1. Multiple gameplay styles, interesting elements (what does Thief and Dark Messiah have in common? Rope Arrows!), secrets and treasures.

I played Darksiders with KB+M and had no problem, quite the opposite. I don't understand the gamepad fan legion that can't adapt to KB+M controls and decries it whenever they can.
That YOU can't play it with the more flexible KB+M and prefer playing only with your thumbs doesn't mean the others can't.

icupnimpn2
13-07-2012, 01:36 PM
Both Dark Messiah Might and Magic (http://store.steampowered.com/app/2100/) (£1.49) and Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes (http://store.steampowered.com/app/61700/) (£2.99) are included in the daily deal but not listed with the rest.

I've heard generally favourable opinions of DM on the forums. Worth a purchase?

At that price, both are worth a purchase. DM is a fun place to romp. It runs in Source and has some playful physics. There are melee/sword controls, and you can shove enemies into environmental features. Not having played either extensively, it's a bit like Zeno Clash except without the arena structure.

Clash of Heroes is just an absolutely fantastic cross between a competitive puzzle game and a turn-based tactics game. It's more on the puzzle side, yes. Very nice presentation with the HD upgrade, but the core was compelling back on the Nintendo DS.

jnx
13-07-2012, 01:36 PM
Both Dark Messiah Might and Magic (http://store.steampowered.com/app/2100/) (£1.49) and Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes (http://store.steampowered.com/app/61700/) (£2.99) are included in the daily deal but not listed with the rest.

I've heard generally favourable opinions of DM on the forums. Worth a purchase?

When it says "FRANCHISE" in the daily deal, you can expect the franchise to be on sale. Those aren't exactly hidden. DMoMM is an ok'ish action game. You're practically getting it for free so yeah, no reason to not try if you're even slightly interested. Clash of Heroes is a very nice little puzzle game with cute graphics style. If you like games like Puzzle Quest, you should be able to enjoy this one too. It's art is somewhat manga though, some might be put off by that.

Edawan
13-07-2012, 01:44 PM
I played Darksiders with KB+M and had no problem, quite the opposite. I don't understand the gamepad fan legion that can't adapt to KB+M controls and decries it whenever they can.
That YOU can't play it with the more flexible KB+M and prefer playing only with your thumbs doesn't mean the others can't.

You don't have to be insulting.
You played Darksiders with KB+M ? Great. Have a cookie.

The JG Man
13-07-2012, 01:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS49Dazin3E

The video that sold me on Dark Messiah during last summer's sale. I think it speaks for itself.

Doodier
13-07-2012, 01:55 PM
... and if you don't own a controller, wtf are you doing in a gaming forum???
Seriously? I have been playing on PC for at least 13 years and the only time I play with controller is when I am at my friend's house and we play FIFA or NHL on his Xbox or PC..

Heliocentric
13-07-2012, 01:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe1m5EbgZt0&feature=player_embedded

Dark messiah truly is impressive, just don't be afraid to use a cheat to get everything unlocked. You'd miss out on so much, and fighting giant spiders with daggers isn't fun for everyone.

Revisor
13-07-2012, 02:04 PM
You don't have to be insulting.
You played Darksiders with KB+M ? Great. Have a cookie.
Sorry for that tone, I was reacting to trjp and his "if you don't own a controller, wtf are you doing in a gaming forum??? Keyboard/Mouse is relatively shit for action games", not to you.

trjp
13-07-2012, 02:18 PM
Seriously? I have been playing on PC for at least 13 years and the only time I play with controller is when I am at my friend's house and we play FIFA or NHL on his Xbox or PC..

It's possible you could have played every game you ever played with a Dreamcast Fishing Controller too - but not terribly wise but it's probably doable.

Controllers are great for a lot of games - many games are made with them as the primary method of control (not always for good reasons but they're made that way anyway) so getting pissy because you pref playing a game with devices intended to operate a desktop UI is childish - and screaming "console toy" makes you look about 2 years old (not aimed at just the person I'm replying to!)

Doodier
13-07-2012, 02:31 PM
Sice you are replying to me, when did I actually say something that made you say this: "and screaming "console toy" makes you look about 2 years old"? I just think that you exaggerated a whole lot by saying that thing I quoted earlier.

icupnimpn2
13-07-2012, 02:36 PM
It's possible you could have played every game you ever played with a Dreamcast Fishing Controller too - but not terribly wise but it's probably doable.

Foreshadowing the next 72 hour internet webcam charity marathon stunt?

Leopig
13-07-2012, 02:38 PM
lol how come a thread about the steam summer sale has turned into a fight? lol

Heliocentric
13-07-2012, 02:44 PM
lol how come a thread about the steam summer sale has turned into a fight? lol

Computer games is serious business.

Rauten
13-07-2012, 02:45 PM
Computer games is serious business.

It's the reason why PC Gaming is mastah race.

SanguineAngel
13-07-2012, 02:47 PM
It's possible you could have played every game you ever played with a Dreamcast Fishing Controller too - but not terribly wise but it's probably doable.

Controllers are great for a lot of games - many games are made with them as the primary method of control (not always for good reasons but they're made that way anyway) so getting pissy because you pref playing a game with devices intended to operate a desktop UI is childish - and screaming "console toy" makes you look about 2 years old (not aimed at just the person I'm replying to!)

I think you're way off base to be honest. No offence intended but I would suggest an alternative point of view:

Demanding that all games be playable using the supplementary specialist Dreamcast Fishing Rod controller would be ridiculous, you are correct.

But, how about asking that all Dreamcast game controls be designed to best use the Dreamcast controller as well as their preferred device. Even fishing games! Guitar heroes and rock band have their own controllers too but they are also sensible enough to have designed control schemes that used the consoles native controller. It certainly is not as enjoyable to use compared to the instruments but it is actually still entirely playable and fun.

Whether you use and own a controller or not, the PC's primary input devices are Keyboard & Mouse. It is common courtesy and sensible/good design practice to tailor control schemes for whichever system's native device. To be honest, the only exception might be if you sold the specialist input device with the game but even then I would say it would be better to accomodate your actual target audience.

So meanwhile, on topic. @Warble Thanks for the heads up on Clash of Heroes! Done & done!

vinraith
13-07-2012, 02:52 PM
I wonder, sometimes, how we got here. This notion that all PC games must be optimized for KB&M is a fairly recent thing. Old flight sims expected you to have a flight stick, old racing sims expected you to have a wheel, and a host of old PC games expected you to have a pad of some stripe. Where did this "no peripherals allowed" thing come from, given that one of the great strengths of the platform is the variety of available peripheral devices?

SanguineAngel
13-07-2012, 02:55 PM
I wonder, sometimes, how we got here. This notion that all PC games must be optimized for KB&M is a fairly recent thing. Old flight sims expected you to have a flight stick, old racing sims expected you to have a wheel, and a host of old PC games expected you to have a pad of some stripe. Where did this "no peripherals allowed" thing come from, given that one of the great strengths of the platform is the variety of available peripheral devices?

Did they? I am reasonably confident that the games of my youth (I used to love flight sims, driving games, space sims etc) all allowed you to use native controllers. Certainly they were optimised for the preferred controllers but they also usually had fully customisable KB&M controls. Heck, most racing games used to have joystick & gamepad control schemes built in too since they were both quite common at one time.

renhoelder
13-07-2012, 02:55 PM
Did the Daily Deals always run for 36h, during the big Summer/Holiday sales I mean? Funny, I was always under the impression they ran for 12h or 14h...hmm..senile me.

The JG Man
13-07-2012, 02:58 PM
I think since last year's summer sale, they've started running them at least a few hours longer than a day so that people can still get them if they miss that day for whatever reason. It's pretty sensible as it doesn't devalue it only lasting 'a day' and encourages more spending. Not to mention if you do miss out, it's not so bad!

squareking
13-07-2012, 03:27 PM
I came here to ask about Dark Messiah and I got my answer.

alms
13-07-2012, 03:29 PM
Did they?

I don't remember it that way, either. I've never seen a panel recommending the pad until much much later. Actually I'd never seen a game port until I bought my first Sound Blaster.

These days you can't even choose any pad you want unless you're prepared to waste time on emulators.

vinraith
13-07-2012, 03:41 PM
Did they? I am reasonably confident that the games of my youth (I used to love flight sims, driving games, space sims etc) all allowed you to use native controllers. Certainly they were optimised for the preferred controllers but they also usually had fully customisable KB&M controls. Heck, most racing games used to have joystick & gamepad control schemes built in too since they were both quite common at one time.

Sure, they all allowed you to use KB&M, I'm not claiming otherwise, but the control was appallingly bad and in many cases outright impossible to use. They were optimized for other controllers.

asskicker
13-07-2012, 03:41 PM
I don't know which game to vote for: Rage or Darkness II?
Rage is still super expensive, so I don't think I'll be buying it with just 66% off.

Leopig
13-07-2012, 03:42 PM
I voted for Darkness 2 as i played Rage in the PS3 and got repetitive and boring after a few short hours. Never played the Darkness but anything with Mike Patton in has to be awesome.

Hypernetic
13-07-2012, 03:43 PM
Rage is TERRIBLE.

apricotsoup
13-07-2012, 03:43 PM
I think all 3 games come down to £10 if they win, which is a little more than I think I'm willing to pay for any of them :/

Need to save money for games I'm more excited about.

asskicker
13-07-2012, 03:44 PM
Is it really that bad? It looks amazing and didn't get that bad reviews.


I think all 3 games come down to £10 if they win, which is a little more than I think I'm willing to pay for any of them :/

Need to save money for games I'm more excited about.

For me (Euros) Rage would be €17 and Darkness II €12.50

mnemnoch
13-07-2012, 03:45 PM
On a completely off topic question:

What is that 4th item in the flash sale? All I'm seeing is Hoard, Darksiders, Sanctum. The last one is "its not available in your region"

Nalano
13-07-2012, 03:46 PM
Is it really that bad? It looks amazing and didn't get that bad reviews.

It is stunningly, extraordinarily mediocre.

asskicker
13-07-2012, 03:47 PM
On a completely off topic question:

What is that 4th item in the flash sale? All I'm seeing is Hoard, Darksiders, Sanctum. The last one is "its not available in your region"

Street Figher IV Arcade Edition


It is stunningly, extraordinarily mediocre.

lol, I've heard good things about Darkness II so I'll vote for that. (Also, it will be cheaper)

F. Lynx Pardinus
13-07-2012, 03:48 PM
I don't know which game to vote for: Rage or Darkness II?
Well, I believe the Darkness 2 sale would simply match the price of the existing Steam-activateable Amazon sale, so I would probably vote for Rage if I were you so you can get both.

Leopig
13-07-2012, 03:49 PM
Anyone thing Dragon Age 2 will go down to £5 on Steam? Only ask cause Amazon uk have it for £3.02 for delivery with £1.99 delivery.

mnemnoch
13-07-2012, 03:50 PM
Street Figher IV Arcade Edition


Hmm. Strange, SF: IV is available here but not the arcade ed?

Anyway, Thanks for the info

Flint
13-07-2012, 03:50 PM
Anyone thing Dragon Age 2 will go down to £5 on Steam?
It would first actually have to be in Steam for it to go down in price there.

vinraith
13-07-2012, 03:50 PM
Anyone thing Dragon Age 2 will go down to £5 on Steam? Only ask cause Amazon uk have it for £3.02 for delivery with £1.99 delivery.

Dragon Age 2 isn't on Steam.

Rauten
13-07-2012, 03:53 PM
Do yourself a favour, buy icecream with those 5 pounds.

asskicker
13-07-2012, 03:54 PM
Hmm. Strange, SF: IV is available here but not the arcade ed?

Anyway, Thanks for the info

This is the store page: http://store.steampowered.com/app/45760/


Do yourself a favour, buy icecream with those 5 pounds.

That would get you a much more enjoyable experience!

Nalano
13-07-2012, 03:55 PM
Dragon Age 2 isn't on Steam.

Not any longer, anyway. It was one of the first EA|BioWare games pulled to shore up the Origin catalog. My copy, tho, is a Steam copy.

DzX
13-07-2012, 03:56 PM
Do yourself a favour, buy icecream with those 5 pounds.


That would get you a much more enjoyable experience!

It's really not that bad...

vinraith
13-07-2012, 03:56 PM
Not any longer, anyway. It was one of the first EA|BioWare games pulled to shore up the Origin catalog. My copy, tho, is a Steam copy.

I assume it fell prey to the "if you won't sell your DLC through Steam, you can't sell your game through Steam" rule.

DzX
13-07-2012, 03:57 PM
I assume it fell prey to the "if you won't sell your DLC through Steam, you can't sell your game through Steam" rule.

A rule that can't exist given Mass Effect 2 wasn't pulled.

Leopig
13-07-2012, 03:57 PM
ooops I must have seen it on a different sale for that price before then. Amazon here I come.

Flint
13-07-2012, 03:58 PM
A rule that can't exist given Mass Effect 2 wasn't pulled.
ME2 was released a year before DA2, back when Steam didn't enforce such a rule. It also didn't get any new DLC after Steam began to enforce it. Hence why ME2 is there, DA2 or any other more recent Bioware title isn't.

Tritagonist
13-07-2012, 04:01 PM
Hmm. Strange, SF: IV is available here but not the arcade ed?

Anyway, Thanks for the info

You might be able to see it after refreshing the page. The Indie Bundle, for example, is constantly switching between 'Unavailable in your region' and on sale for me.

Hypernetic
13-07-2012, 04:01 PM
I do believe that DLC thing was made up by EA or exaggerated to a great degree. There are countless games on Steam that sell additional content outside of the Steam store, such as the many free to play and MMO games on Steam.

DzX
13-07-2012, 04:03 PM
ME2 was released a year before DA2, back when Steam didn't enforce such a rule. It also didn't get any new DLC after Steam began to enforce it. Hence why ME2 is there, DA2 or any other more recent Bioware title isn't.

Fair enough. I don't see why it's one rule for one game, one for another given the outcome is the same - both DA2 and Crysis 2 were on Steam before getting pulled - why not just limit the ruling to new games after it had been announced?


I do believe that DLC thing was made up by EA or exaggerated to a great degree. There are countless games on Steam that sell additional content outside of the Steam store, such as the many free to play and MMO games on Steam.

I believe all Free to Play games have to allow users to purchase goods through Steam [for example Empire Points in AoE Online are purchased through Steam].

The JG Man
13-07-2012, 04:04 PM
Not to get too off-topic, but a lot of those FTP games have some connection through Steam, so some money will go their way most likely. At the very least, most of them you can buy stuff for them through Steam and that may be enough. As for the dispute with EA, Steam never responded to argue against what EA had said in that regard. It's still a he-says-she-says thing, but the result is a loss for the consumer whatever.

Anyhow, new deals in an hour! Hope they're good'uns.

mnemnoch
13-07-2012, 04:12 PM
You might be able to see it after refreshing the page. The Indie Bundle, for example, is constantly switching between 'Unavailable in your region' and on sale for me.

Nah, its really not available in my region. I click the app site that asskicker posted and it showed me the same message. What baffle me is the SF:IV is available here but Arcade ed is not.

Oh well, its not like I will buy it anyway. I'm just curious

Leopig
13-07-2012, 04:33 PM
Anyone know if the Street fighter IV - Super Duper Hyper Turbo championship world edition thing is Game for Windows live?

DzX
13-07-2012, 04:37 PM
Anyone know if the Street fighter IV - Super Duper Hyper Turbo championship world edition thing is Game for Windows live?

It is GFWL; states it under system requirements at the bottom of the store page.

Leopig
13-07-2012, 04:39 PM
k thanks. Already have it on origin thought maybe the steam version didn't have it.

vinraith
13-07-2012, 04:55 PM
Sales cycles that are shorter than healthy human sleep cycles are a bad idea.

On an unrelated note, has anyone got a copy of, or link to, the indie bundle leak list?

Serenegoose
13-07-2012, 04:57 PM
Sales cycles that are shorter than healthy human sleep cycles are a bad idea.

Agreed. Didn't they learn anything from when they did the same thing with the soldiers medals on TF2?

gundato
13-07-2012, 05:02 PM
The Darkness 2 is actually rather good. Gameplay wise it (and its predecessor) is kind of "meh" and can get really frustrating, but the story is pretty good. The Darkness 1 was (somewhat loosely) inspired by the start of the comic series and the story it was (loosely) based off of was written by Garth Ennis in his earlier years, and it shows.

Basically, The Darkness 1 and 2 take all the stuff that worked for a comic that has been running for 16 years and gets rid of almost all the stuff that didn't (pretty much anything involving busty women with magic-metal thongs...).

Leopig
13-07-2012, 05:02 PM
Sales cycles that are shorter than healthy human sleep cycles are a bad idea.

On an unrelated note, has anyone got a copy of, or link to, the indie bundle leak list?

Bud saying that by only having 2 sales ever 3 days then they can get away with a third less sales over the same period therefore making less losses on each game.

Flint
13-07-2012, 05:04 PM
Sales have been updated. Sonic Generations is there. Sonic Generations is amazing, near-flawless and wonderful. Embrace the sales.

I'm tempted by that Tribes starter pack. Tried the game for a bit yesterday and greatly enjoyed it, but don't know yet if it's something I'll develop a continuing relationship with. But stiiiiill...

Leopig
13-07-2012, 05:07 PM
oooo MAx Payne 3 £15. Very very tempting or do I chance it going down to 75% later on?

Solarj
13-07-2012, 05:07 PM
From the latest news for steam sale group (http://steamcommunity.com/games/summercamp) looks like there will be some 'summer camp' activities...:

'Steam Scouts, we also have some fun activities scheduled - don't forget to earn

your badges
(steam://openurl/http://steamcommunity.com/my/badges)
(and check out your existing ones).

P.S. What frightens ants the most - the ant eater or the steamroller? WRONG. Hidden option C, Cyl harnessing the power of the summer sun via magnifying glass.'

The JG Man
13-07-2012, 05:08 PM
Sonic Generations, Space Marine and The Binding of Isaac (plus its expansion) are all products I heartily endorse, along with Lara Croft: Guardian of Light (check the flash sales). To a lesser extent, the Tribes: Ascend starter pack is decent.

EDIT: If Max Payne 3 goes cheaper in this sale, I'll eat a hat. That I'll buy for the occasion. Hopefully made of chocolate.

Serenegoose
13-07-2012, 05:12 PM
oooo MAx Payne 3 £15. Very very tempting or do I chance it going down to 75% later on?

Dang. DANG.