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riadsala
29-06-2011, 01:47 PM
This might be more fun than the "best year" thread. Can we identify the worst year? The year of disappointing sequels, missed released dates, etc.

How about 2009?

Dawn of War 2 was not what a lot of people were expecting. While I enjoyed it as an ok action game, I much preferred Company of Heroes and DoW1.

Left 4 Dead 2 was a well executed but unambitious sequel to a great game. So, it was a good game, but should probably be considered an expandalone.

Empire Total War was probably the biggest strategy game of the year. A huge flabby buggy mess by all accounts (I'm yet to play it though, as I'm still working through M2TW:Kingdoms).

Dragon Age: Origins maybe had too many expectations, spiritual sequel to Baldur's Gate etc. A good game, but I'm told the Witcher is better (which was released in 2007)?

Plants v Zombies. A tower defence game. A fun, polished tower defence game, but a tower defence game non the less.

Rii
29-06-2011, 01:56 PM
Yeah, 2009 was pretty terrible. The mid-2000s were kind of a downer for PC gaming in general actually. That was when the 'PC is dead!' movement was in full swing as y'all no doubt recall.

Plants vs. Zombies was awesome though.

Alez
29-06-2011, 01:59 PM
Dragon Age Origins and Plants vs Zombies in a list for "worst" anything? I accuse you of being silly.

Estel
29-06-2011, 02:07 PM
Dragon Age Origins and Plants vs Zombies in a list for "worst" anything? I accuse you of being silly.

I don't think OP was saying that they're bad games; but that if taken as examples of the best games from a year, they aren't as good as the best games from other years.

Unaco
29-06-2011, 02:14 PM
2009 was also the year of Braid, Machinarium, AI War Fleet Command, Gratuitous Space Battles, Batman Arkham Asylum, Mirror's Edge, Torchlight, The Path, Tension/The Void, Borderlands, ArmA2, Red Faction Guerilla, King's Bounty AP, Eufloria, Osmos, AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! – A Reckless Disregard for Gravity, Xeno Clash, Killing Floor, Shattered Horizon, Death to Spies, Cortex Command, Risen, Trine, Blood Bowl and White Gold. And, not to forget, the first public release of MineCraft

I think there were quite a few good games released in 2009.

riadsala
29-06-2011, 02:15 PM
Dragon Age Origins and Plants vs Zombies in a list for "worst" anything? I accuse you of being silly.

Yes, I am being silly. But also, for any year you pick, you can easy list 10 good games. And I wasn't listing the worst games that were released that year. Rather, the best games that came out that year. And pointing out, that while they were all good, none of them are timeless genre defining classics.

Rii
29-06-2011, 02:17 PM
2009 was also the year of Braid, Machinarium, AI War Fleet Command, Gratuitous Space Battles, Batman Arkham Asylum, Mirror's Edge, Torchlight, The Path, Tension/The Void, Borderlands, ArmA2, Red Faction Guerilla, King's Bounty AP, Eufloria, Osmos, AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! – A Reckless Disregard for Gravity, Xeno Clash, Killing Floor, Shattered Horizon, Death to Spies, Cortex Command, Risen, Trine, Blood Bowl and White Gold. And, not to forget, the first public release of MineCraft

I think there were quite a few good games released in 2009.

Mirror's Edge and Braid were 2008. As I put it in the other thread: a year in which the only titles worth talking about were indie.

riadsala
29-06-2011, 02:21 PM
2009 was also the year of Braid, Machinarium, AI War Fleet Command, Gratuitous Space Battles, Batman Arkham Asylum, Mirror's Edge, Torchlight, The Path, Tension/The Void, Borderlands, ArmA2, Red Faction Guerilla, King's Bounty AP, Eufloria, Osmos, AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! – A Reckless Disregard for Gravity, Xeno Clash, Killing Floor, Shattered Horizon, Death to Spies, Cortex Command, Risen, Trine, Blood Bowl and White Gold. And, not to forget, the first public release of MineCraft

I think there were quite a few good games released in 2009.

Yes, yes, and yes. (and extra credit for AI War, which I love, although I'd suggest that it only really matured last year...).

So, which year do you think is worse? It's not 2006, that's for sure.

Estel
29-06-2011, 02:21 PM
I think there were quite a few good games released in 2009.

I don't think we'll find a year in which there weren't quite a few "good" games released.

EndelNurk
29-06-2011, 02:26 PM
The year that 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand came out? How dare you suggest that it can't be the best year ever. I assume you're discussing PC only games as I'm told that Uncharted 2 is one of the best games around and I believe that was 2009. Likewise, I'm a huge fan of The Beatles: Rock Band. If I recall correctly, 2009 was a great year for more specialised, perhaps more niche titles. That was the year of Braid and AaaaaAAAA! right? Wikipedia tells me it was when Minecraft classic came out as well. I didn't play it until late last year, but I know other people were getting very excited right away. Also Cities XL, although I never tried that myself. Men of War as well, which I know many people here are big fans of. I know that the mainstream titles may have often disappointed (MW2? Even Demigod, which was one of the interesting prospects) but I think there was more than enough stuff there to make it a great year. I know most of the games that I still regularly play are from 2009.

Unaco
29-06-2011, 02:31 PM
Mirror's Edge and Braid were 2008. As I put it in the other thread: a year in which the only titles worth talking about were indie.

Mirror's Edge was released on PS3 and XBox 360 in November 2008, but was released on PC January 2009. Braid was similar... XBox Live Arcade release in 2008, but PC/Mac/PS3 releases all in 2009 (and Linux in 2010). I would disagree that the only stuff worth talking about in 2009 was Indie... you had a game like Batman AA, showing that a MultiPlatform Big Budget Action game could work just as well on a PC as it could a console. Or a game like The Void or King's Bounty AP, showing the emerging potential, charm (and downright oddness) of the Eastern European developer community. Or a game like Risen, were Piranha Bytes were able to overcome the loss of the Gothic series, but still produce a compelling, complete RPG experience. Or ArmA2 which was, and I shall quote Mr Jom Rissignol here, "the antidote, the antithesis, to the scripted linear sequences that we’ve been expecting from shooter from so long". His appalling grammar, not mine.

Jams O'Donnell
29-06-2011, 02:33 PM
It's pretty hard for me to come up with a memorable PC game from 2006.

Unaco
29-06-2011, 02:39 PM
It's pretty hard to come up with a memorable PC game from 2006.

Medieval II? DEFCON? Dark Messiah of Might and Magic? Oblivion? GalCiv II? NeverWinter Nights 2? Space Rangers 2? Episode 1? All fo the Mods that came out for Oblivion?

riadsala
29-06-2011, 02:40 PM
It's pretty hard to come up with a memorable PC game from 2006.

Civilization 4 (still regarded by many as the best TBS ever made)
Company of Heroes (still regarded by many as one of the best RTS games made, especially if you're not a SC2 fan)
Oblivion (while not great on release, has really flourished with the PC modding community, and one of the examples of what's great about PC gaming)
Galactic Civilizations II: Dread Lords
Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
Half-Life 2: Episode One
Medieval 2: Total War
DEFCOM

Unaco
29-06-2011, 02:42 PM
Also... 2006 was the year of PC release for Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth.

OctaneHugo
29-06-2011, 02:51 PM
I don't know what year it is but if 2006 or 2009 are the Worst Years For PC Gaming Ever then PC gaming has done pretty goddamn well.

Wizardry
29-06-2011, 03:08 PM
Or a game like Risen, were Piranha Bytes were able to overcome the loss of the Gothic series, but still produce a compelling, complete RPG experience.
Real-time, single character, action combat does not make a "complete RPG experience".

Worst year? There are lots of candidates.

2003 - The year Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic was released and killed CRPGs.
2006 - The year of The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, the worst game to ever be called an RPG by the gaming press.
2009 - The year Dragon Age: Origins came out and told all the young gamers that old-school RPGs are shit, without actually being old-school in the slightest.

mlaskus
29-06-2011, 03:29 PM
@Wizardry
We get it, you hate anything that isn't Wizardry and dares call itself an RPG. It is off-topic.
You aren't writing about the worst years of gaming, you just express your distaste for what happened to the genre.

Gaming gets only better year after year. The selection of PC games is constantly growing and every year there are at least a few notable releases.

riadsala
29-06-2011, 03:46 PM
I don't know what year it is but if 2006 or 2009 are the Worst Years For PC Gaming Ever then PC gaming has done pretty goddamn well.


and that sir, is the punchline.

Teddy Leach
29-06-2011, 04:11 PM
1872 was the worst year. There's a few gems released every year, as well as a few stinkers and disappointments.

hamster
29-06-2011, 04:11 PM
Civilization 4 (still regarded by many as the best TBS ever made)
Company of Heroes (still regarded by many as one of the best RTS games made, especially if you're not a SC2 fan)
Oblivion (while not great on release, has really flourished with the PC modding community, and one of the examples of what's great about PC gaming)
Galactic Civilizations II: Dread Lords
Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
Half-Life 2: Episode One
Medieval 2: Total War
DEFCOM

Have you guys noticed that they're almost all sequels? Man i'd really like to see some original games make an appearance.

TillEulenspiegel
29-06-2011, 04:26 PM
Have you guys noticed that they're almost all sequels? Man i'd really like to see some original games make an appearance.
Original in what sense? Just new worlds, or radically different game mechanics? Modern indies certainly have the latter, for better or worse.

"Like this, but better" is a decent guideline for making a great game. It's focused innovation, understanding and maintaining the aspects that people liked about a previous game. If it ain't broke, etc...

GothicEmperor
29-06-2011, 04:54 PM
Have you guys noticed that they're almost all sequels? Man i'd really like to see some original games make an appearance.
There's nothing wrong with sequels if they innovate enough and provide sufficiently different experiences.

Anthile
29-06-2011, 04:59 PM
Real-time, single character, action combat does not make a "complete RPG experience".

Worst year? There are lots of candidates.

2003 - The year Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic was released and killed CRPGs.
2006 - The year of The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, the worst game to ever be called an RPG by the gaming press.
2009 - The year Dragon Age: Origins came out and told all the young gamers that old-school RPGs are shit, without actually being old-school in the slightest.

Jeez. Shut up already. Why are you even here? 98% of your postings are complaint about things not being the way you want them to be. It may blow your mind, but have you ever thought that other people enjoy things in a different way than you do?
Don't bother answering this posting, I will ignore you from now on.

Wizardry
29-06-2011, 05:19 PM
It's a thread about the worst year for PC gaming. Of course it'll consist of people's opinions.

OctaneHugo
29-06-2011, 05:20 PM
But saying those years are the worst because x game came out and apparently ruined your favorite genre is just stupid.

Wizardry
29-06-2011, 05:28 PM
Why is it stupid? You haven't given a reason.

G915
29-06-2011, 07:56 PM
Left 4 Dead 2 was a well executed but unambitious sequel to a great game. So, it was a good game, but should probably be considered an expandalone.

Whaaaat? I thought that L4D2 was (is?) a much better game than the original L4D. I also like the characters more. And campaigns. And everything. Yes.


Plants v Zombies. A tower defence game. A fun, polished tower defence game, but a tower defence game non the less.

Whaaaaaat? Well, I'd say that too high expectations is..um, problem on your end, not a flaw of the game. It was a great game, I've played it for the 1st time recently and it was great. Just great.


Plants v Zombies. A tower defence game. A fun, polished tower defence game, but a tower defence game non the less.

Uh...how exactly is this a negative?
"It's a tower defence game which means it's a bad game."
Duh?

thegooseking
29-06-2011, 08:36 PM
Civilization 4 (still regarded by many as the best TBS ever made)
Company of Heroes (still regarded by many as one of the best RTS games made, especially if you're not a SC2 fan)
Oblivion (while not great on release, has really flourished with the PC modding community, and one of the examples of what's great about PC gaming)
Galactic Civilizations II: Dread Lords
Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
Half-Life 2: Episode One
Medieval 2: Total War
DEFCOM

Civ IV was 2005. Although it was released on Mac in 2006. Something you want to tell us?

OctaneHugo
29-06-2011, 08:53 PM
Why is it stupid? You haven't given a reason.
Because one game, whether it's bad or good, does not make a year.

Wizardry
29-06-2011, 08:56 PM
Because one game, whether it's bad or good, does not make a year.
Why is it one game?

QuantaCat
29-06-2011, 08:58 PM
2003 - The year Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic was released and killed CRPGs.
2006 - The year of The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, the worst game to ever be called an RPG by the gaming press.
2009 - The year Dragon Age: Origins came out and told all the young gamers that old-school RPGs are shit, without actually being old-school in the slightest.

Compared to what are those horrible?

Wizardry
29-06-2011, 09:03 PM
Compared to what are those horrible?
Good CRPGs?

TillEulenspiegel
29-06-2011, 09:09 PM
Compared to what are those horrible?
Considering each in its own context:
KOTOR - any decent Star Wars EU novel, most notably the Thrawn trilogy
Oblivion - Morrowind, Daggerfall
DA:O - just about any prior party-based CRPG, or any random fantasy novel you grab off the library bookshelf

Lukasz
29-06-2011, 09:17 PM
Considering each in its own context:
KOTOR - any decent Star Wars EU novel, most notably the Thrawn trilogy
Oblivion - Morrowind, Daggerfall
DA:O - just about any prior party-based CRPG, or any random fantasy novel you grab off the library bookshelf

you can't compare books to games like that as baldur's gate fallout, gothic are also worse in that regard to the written medium.
pst comes close to a good book.

rest of rpgs do not.

JohnnyK
29-06-2011, 09:22 PM
Going off-topic here, but why call something a CRPG in a PC Games forum? Isn't RPG enough?

And just to be clear - this is a genuine question. Or is there a memo I missed?

Sorry I can't offer any new ideas for the worst year - I thoroughly enjoy reading such posts, but I have no clue when which game came out... but it sure wasn't 1987 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Giana_Sisters).

hamster
29-06-2011, 09:28 PM
Original in what sense? Just new worlds, or radically different game mechanics? Modern indies certainly have the latter, for better or worse.

"Like this, but better" is a decent guideline for making a great game. It's focused innovation, understanding and maintaining the aspects that people liked about a previous game. If it ain't broke, etc...

Well it was simply something that struck me when I looked at the release list. Now I'm thinking of all the games that will come out soon that many people are anticipating and i honestly can't think of a single original title off the top of my head.

I'm not looking for something avant garde , or mind-blowingly esoteric, so it doesn't have to be some abstract polygonal indie shooter. Basically, i'm looking for a new name and i'm struggling to come up with anything.

Oak
29-06-2011, 09:46 PM
Has there ever really been bad year for gaming?

laneford
29-06-2011, 09:55 PM
The year they stopped publishing games for my Amiga 500+ and everyone else had Super Nintendos.

:(

TheLastBaron
29-06-2011, 10:29 PM
Going off-topic here, but why call something a CRPG in a PC Games forum? Isn't RPG enough?

And just to be clear - this is a genuine question. Or is there a memo I missed?


cRPGs are games like Ultima or Baldur's Gate, thing Gold Box or Infinity Engine games. The name cRPG is used to differentiate between RPG which would mean tabletop RPG. Think isometic games with tome sort of pnp system and ruleset.

OctaneHugo
29-06-2011, 10:37 PM
Why is it one game?
Because you said it was.

Wizardry
29-06-2011, 10:41 PM
Because you said it was.
I may have mentioned single games, but I gave reasons why they resulted in poor years for games generally. There were very few good games from 2003, 2006 and 2009.

TheLastBaron
29-06-2011, 10:46 PM
I may have mentioned single games, but I gave reasons why they resulted in poor years for games generally. There were very few good games from 2003, 2006 and 2009.

Do you like any games made after the early '90's?

Wizardry
29-06-2011, 10:59 PM
Of course I do.

TheLastBaron
29-06-2011, 11:09 PM
Like what? I'm curious to hear what "modern" games you like.

Wizardry
29-06-2011, 11:11 PM
Knights of the Chalice is a good game.

Jeremy
29-06-2011, 11:56 PM
RPG banter, gotta love it.

If I had to pick a year that was one of the worst, it would have to be 2005. There are some notable heavy hitters in that crowd, like Civ IV, and Battlefield 2. In terms of overall quality though, I can't think of too many games that really struck me that year at all. It did give me a chance to go back and play games that I had missed from previous years though, so that was a bonus!

QuantaCat
30-06-2011, 08:06 AM
RPG never meant "just" tabletop. everyone I know calls/called it either tabletop, pen&paper or computer games. Because as soon as you say RPGs mean tabletops, then you have to fend off the LARPers as well, because they usually refer to LARPs as roleplaying.

Anyway, KOTOR 1 I didnt like so much. KOTOR 2 was brilliant. Also, I do not, nor will I ever, read star wars fanfiction.

Oblivion was a bit.. underwhelming, sure. I quite liked Dragon Age, though. I absolutely hate the idea of the second one, and will never play it.

JohnnyK
30-06-2011, 09:52 AM
cRPGs are games like Ultima or Baldur's Gate, thing Gold Box or Infinity Engine games. The name cRPG is used to differentiate between RPG which would mean tabletop RPG. Think isometic games with tome sort of pnp system and ruleset.
Right, but we are in "PC Gaming Discussion" in a thread called "Worst year in gaming" - isn't the "C" implied?

Semantics, I know, but it kind of weirds me out.

AndrewC
30-06-2011, 10:46 AM
Being weirded out by Wizardry posts is absolutely fine, JohnnyK, don't stress it.

vanilla bear
30-06-2011, 11:26 AM
I see your 2009 and I raise you 2010.

Day 1: Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/01/the-games-of-christmas-10-day-one/).
Day 2: Just Cause 2 (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/02/the-games-of-christmas-10-day-two/).
Day 3: S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/03/the-games-of-christmas-10-day-three/)
Day 4: Space Funeral (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/04/the-games-of-christmas-10-day-four/).
Day 5: Neptune’s Pride (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/05/the-games-of-christmas-10-day-five/).
Day 6: Dead Rising 2 (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/06/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-6/).
Day 7: VVVVVV (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/07/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-7/)
Day 8: Digital: A Love Story (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/08/the-games-of-christmas-10-day-8/).
Day 9: Bioshock 2 (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/09/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-9/).
Day 10: Recettear: An Item Shop’s Tale (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/10/the-games-of-christmas-10-day-10/)
Day 11: Plain Sight (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/11/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-11/).
Day 12: Dragon Age: Awakening (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/12/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-12/).
Day 13: Alien Swarm (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/13/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-13/).
Day 14: Metro 2033 (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/14/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-14/).
Day 15: Warhammer 40,000 Dawn Of War 2: Chaos Rising (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/15/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-15/)
Day 16: Sleep Is Death (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/16/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-16/).
Day 17: Desktop Dungeons (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/17/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-17-2/).
Day 18: Lara Croft & The Guardian of Light (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/18/the-games-of-christmas-10-day-18/).
Day 19: R.U.S.E. (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/19/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-19/)
Day 20: Super Meat Boy (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/20/the-games-of-christmas-10-day-20/).
Day 21: Starcraft II: Wings Of Liberty (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/21/the-games-of-christmas%E2%80%99-10-day-21/).
Day 22: Amnesia: The Dark Descent (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/22/the-games-of-christmas%E2%80%99-10-day-22/).
Day 23: Mass Effect 2 (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/23/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-23/).
Day 24: Minecraft (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/12/24/the-games-of-christmas-%E2%80%9910-day-24/).

EndelNurk
30-06-2011, 11:28 AM
Aren't those all brilliant games? I'm confused.

vanilla bear
30-06-2011, 11:38 AM
Those are the best games and plenty are good, but there aren't many classics. BC2 was fine but should be thoroughly eclipsed by BF3, Bioshock 2 is I think usually considered less good that the first, the Valve contribution is Alien Swarm, which won't be troubling many people's Top 100 games lists, &c.

Think about where you might slot released and upcoming games from 2011 into that list - like Portal 2, Witcher 2, Skyrim, BF3, DE:HR, Dirt 3, Crysis 2 - and I suggest that most of them will be kicking 2010 games out until there's not much left.

riadsala
30-06-2011, 01:01 PM
Aren't those all brilliant games? I'm confused.


yes, the point is to find the year with the least good best games.

I'm not sure Minecraft should count, yet, as it's not finished, and makes no claim to be finished. Especially as most the "game" elements are yet to be added. It'll probably be one of the best games of 2011, or 2012.

I guess ME2 is a good standout game: would it be fair to say that's THE guns n conversation game? (whether you like this outbranch of RPGs is a moot point, as lots of people do).

EndelNurk
30-06-2011, 01:20 PM
I understand that, but if a year has 24 fantastic games, or arguably 23 if we're being picky about Minecraft, then that's more than many other years. Even by an earlier suggestion that the games should not only be great, but genre defining, then I would argue that ME2 (As a Guns and Conversation, not as an RPG, before you all complain), STALKER, Neptune's Pride (I cannot think of anything else that does what that game does. Not sure I like it, but it's unique) and Starcraft II are still in contention with VVVVVV, Recettear, Sleep is Death and Super Meat Boy being greatly lauded in the indie market as well.

riadsala
30-06-2011, 01:24 PM
I understand that, but if a year has 24 fantastic games, or arguably 23 if we're being picky about Minecraft, then that's more than many other years. Even by an earlier suggestion that the games should not only be great, but genre defining, then I would argue that ME2 (As a Guns and Conversation, not as an RPG, before you all complain), STALKER, Neptune's Pride (I cannot think of anything else that does what that game does. Not sure I like it, but it's unique) and Starcraft II are still in contention with VVVVVV, Recettear, Sleep is Death and Super Meat Boy being greatly lauded in the indie market as well.

Well, nominate a different year :)

DeekyFun
30-06-2011, 01:33 PM
1994? The year Rise of the Robots came out? I think that release alone might justify it.

D

vanilla bear
30-06-2011, 01:40 PM
Well, that list is taken from RPS's Advent calendar - so every year that they've done it for has "24 fantastic games". My point is that whilst I agree that the games are good, I don't think there are very many classics on the list. Obviously I can only speak for myself, but I bought 6 games off that list, and I don't think I shall be buying any more (and Plain Sight (on RPS's recommendation) was a mistake because no one plays it). Overall I think 2010 was a dud year, as many a lot of the big studios went quiet as they beavered away on things for 2011 (such as Valve and Portal 2). For indies it was an alright year, but less good than 2009, and this year isn't going badly either with games like Frozen Synapse and Magicka.

Drake Sigar
30-06-2011, 01:43 PM
Which year did Daikatana come out?

Rhetorical question. :)

EndelNurk
30-06-2011, 03:55 PM
Heh you're right, riadsala, I've not been very good at suggesting alternatives. Okay, I propose 2008:
Here are the games that I understand people were big fans of from that year:
GTA 4
Fallout 3
Dead Space
Men of War
Left 4 Dead
Mass Effect
World of Goo
Unreal Tournament 3 (Possibly? I don't know the general consensus but I found it a bit too dull to get much enjoyment from it)
Metacritic would also add the Gal Civ 2 expansion and the WoW expansion to that list.

Even as much as I adore Mass Effect and Left 4 Dead, I'm not sure that many of those are particularly mind blowing. Not sure if it's the worst year, but I think it's worse than 2006, 2009 or 2010.

Unaco
30-06-2011, 03:59 PM
2000. Was quite a lean year for gaming, for myself. Was at University, had quite an old box that needed upgrading/replacing, but no money for such things. It couldn't run Deus Ex. Didn't do much gaming at all, really.

vinraith
30-06-2011, 04:24 PM
2010 sounds pretty credible to me, based on that list. Of those, the only ones I'd consider substantial are Call of Pripyat, Recettear, DOW 2, Amnesia, and ME2. Of those, both DOW 2 and ME2, while entertaining, represent declines in their respective franchises in many ways.

That said I suspect the problem is less the year and more the list. I found myself disagreeing with RPS a LOT last year.

thegooseking
30-06-2011, 04:45 PM
2003 was not a great year. You'd have a hard time finding 24 great games from that year, even if you're generous about elevating merely OK games to great.

There were some great games, of course, as there are any year, but it was pretty sparse.

On the other hand, it was one of the best years for me personally, because it was the year I finally got a PC that could run proper games.

Wizardry
30-06-2011, 05:01 PM
What does "proper games" mean?

thegooseking
30-06-2011, 05:05 PM
Anything that requires something better than a P166 with 64MB memory and 3GB total hard disk space, which is what I had before that.

And yes, my point wasn't that old games were crap, but that I was limited in my choice of what I could play (especially bearing in mind that these were the latter days when retail was king, so it was still down to what I could actually find in shops).

vinraith
30-06-2011, 05:05 PM
What does "proper games" mean?

I'm not sure it behooves you to be quite that defensive. It's clear from context he means "contemporary games." While it's lamentable that so many casually dismiss older games as irrelevant, it's hardly news, and not something one is liable to change by getting offended about it. Which is not to suggest I don't understand (and share) your irritation.