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mrwout
16-08-2012, 06:32 PM
I'm thinking of getting a gamepad for PC, espescially to play co-op games and console ports that just play better that way. My main concern is compatibility and I'm not interested in any fancy feautures that just bump the price. I've been looking for some reviews etc. and it seems that the Xbox 360 controller is my best choice or are there any other suggestions?

ComradePenguin
16-08-2012, 06:41 PM
Xbox controller all the way then. If a game supports controllers then 99/100 it will be the 360 pad. Its only weakness is a slightly unsatisfying d-pad though I understand even that has been somewhat improved with the latest revision.

Spider Jerusalem
16-08-2012, 06:54 PM
a ps3 controller also works (and is my personal preference as someone who has owned all the playstation consoles). if you don't have a personal preference-- i cannot stand the way the xbox 360 controller fits in my hand, for instance-- then the 360 will be easier to use.

Finicky
17-08-2012, 11:17 AM
Yeah, ps3 controller is fully functional with ds3 tool (which is very easy to use)

You can set it to emulate an xbox controller and all the buttons, analogue sticks, vibration etc work perfectly.
So if you prefer either over the other, you have a choice.

Jesus_Phish
17-08-2012, 11:21 AM
I don't know if this is a feature using the 360 controller or any and perhaps the guys using the ps3 ones can confirm/deny it, but when playing a game like Skyrim, Just Cause 2, GTA, Deus Ex etc etc, you can switch seamlessly between keyboard/mouse and gamepad.

This is great for games with a mix of driving/shooting/on footness as personally I find it impossible to control some vehicles with a keyboard and mouse properly and you can only have ON/OFF when driving using a keyboard.

Mohorovicic
17-08-2012, 11:22 AM
Wouldn't the PS3 controller have sixaxis, which will make it more expensive at no gain whatsoever?

Eophasmus
17-08-2012, 11:29 AM
Yes, the PS3 controller is a little pricier but you can use Sixaxis with MotionJoy's DS3 tool (though personally, I find it clunky and awkward). I find the PS3 controller much more suited to my hands and don't get pain after extended play, which I do with the XBox 360 controller.

Also, there are a couple of mods / unofficial patches which replace the XBox button UI with PS3 buttons. Psychonauts worked extremely well and I believe there's one for Skyrim.

Bobtree
18-08-2012, 06:39 PM
I use a PS2 DualShock pad with a Radioshack "PSX to USB" adaptor (and x360ce for stubborn games).

The Tupper
19-08-2012, 10:47 PM
My controller is a wired XBox 360 and it's the best PC gamepad I've had (out of at least three others). I find that it works really well as a joystick for MS Flight Simulator as well - if it can do that it can do pretty much anything.

The Tupper
19-08-2012, 10:49 PM
I don't know if this is a feature using the 360 controller or any and perhaps the guys using the ps3 ones can confirm/deny it, but when playing a game like Skyrim, Just Cause 2, GTA, Deus Ex etc etc, you can switch seamlessly between keyboard/mouse and gamepad.

This is great for games with a mix of driving/shooting/on footness as personally I find it impossible to control some vehicles with a keyboard and mouse properly and you can only have ON/OFF when driving using a keyboard.


Skyrim (last time I tried it with the pad plugged in) required the XBox 360 pad to be unplugged for the keyboard to work. Most annoying. Not the case with other games I've noticed though.

KilgoreTrout_XL
22-08-2012, 06:30 PM
The main difference is that 360 controller's analog thumbsticks are concave, and the PS3's are (inexplicably) convex. My thumbs always slide off the PS3 controller when I'm playing fifa. I know many people prefer Sony, but I really don't understand why.

The sticks on the 360 are also offset, which is much more comfortable. Note that the d-pad is a piece of shit. Shit. It's shit. If you use the d-pad a lot, get the ps3 pad, because the 360 one is total shit.

gravity_spoon
23-08-2012, 07:21 AM
I'd advice getting a 360 controller.

Jesus_Phish
23-08-2012, 09:14 AM
I'd advice getting a 360 controller.

Unless you really like fighting games, then you'd probably want something with an actual d-pad. Though if you really liked fighting games you'd probably want a full arcade style fighting stick

Mohorovicic
24-08-2012, 07:39 AM
What's the difference between 360's dpad and an "actual" dpad?

Jesus_Phish
24-08-2012, 11:17 AM
The 360s "dpad" is really more of a really shitty analogue stick. It basically works on a ball/socket type joint and this means it's very easy to hit UP/RIGHT instead of UP or RIGHT for example. It's not stable basically. The fact that it's a massive single plate doesn't help.

A real dpad, such as one on the ps3 controller, actually has 4 buttons on it that are easy to press individually. They're not all lumped together on one piece of plastic.

neema_t
24-08-2012, 05:13 PM
I've honestly never had a problem with pressing the right direction with the 360's D-pad but then I never play fighting games so it's rarely crucial. It's not my favourite controller ever, the play in the sticks is just dreadful to the point where I've had to set as much as 33% deadzone in my left stick and 20% in the right, but the native support and the fact that's widely used in many, many games means I'd recommend the 360 pad too. Even if it is a pile of shit. Then again I got mine for 15 and a PS3 pad is 35, if I remember rightly.

Jesus_Phish
24-08-2012, 05:18 PM
It's not much of an issue for most games, but for fighting games it can be dreadful.

alms
24-08-2012, 09:15 PM
Since we're on the topic of the d-pad, last month I received a wired Xbox360 controller. Left and down click decently well, but up and right are mushy. Sometimes I'd miss notes in Sequence because of this lack of precise feedback.

Is this a typical issue of every 360 pad, or should I just have it replaced?

FriendlyFire
24-08-2012, 11:24 PM
My 360's d-pad has a mushy up direction. Maybe that's bad luck but I have a feeling (especially in the context of the 360's own issues) that this is rather widespread and just not important enough for most people to bother.

DanMan
03-08-2013, 02:20 PM
I use a PS2 DualShock pad with a Radioshack "PSX to USB" adaptor (and x360ce for stubborn games).

I'm still using a PS1 controller. :D

Anyway, I'm also on the lookout for a game pad since for some games (Walking Dead) x360ce just doesn't work unfortunately. I'm also wondering if I should get a XB360 pad, but there's the D-Pad issue and I'm not really fond of supporting MS XInput nonsense by also buying their pad.

So any new recommendations since this thread was posted? It'd be good, if the pad supported both XInput and DInput. I've heard some good things about the Speedlink Xeox Pro Analog (http://www.speedlink.com/?p=2&cat=4315&pid=30124&paus=1) - except for the Dpad, yet again.

Boris
03-08-2013, 02:23 PM
I use a 360 pad. Pretty much everything supports it and it isn't too expensive. Plus, if I ever get an xbox I'll have a pad.

alms
03-08-2013, 02:44 PM
Anyway, I'm also on the lookout for a game pad since for some games (Walking Dead) x360ce just doesn't work unfortunately. I'm also wondering if I should get a XB360 pad, but there's the D-Pad issue and I'm not really fond of supporting MS XInput nonsense by also buying their pad.

Not sure why you'd want to play TWD with a pad, KB+M works just as good, if not better. Most games use the D-Pad so that its lack of quality doesn't really make a difference (there are some exceptions) and if you want to stop messing with X360CE, it's either the 360 pad or a compatible one.

trjp
05-08-2013, 11:53 PM
My feeling is that you need to own a 360 pad just because AND you might want to consider another pad/stick if you want a good DPad for older games/twitchy games AND you'll probably need a keys-to-pad software package too (all the up-to-date ones cost money but there are older 'free' versions around too).

How is the current Logitech jobbie for DPad games?

Rath
06-08-2013, 07:43 PM
I'm in two minds about buying a pad right now. On the one hand, I'd quite like a 360 pad due to how compatible they seem to be, then again I've heard good things about the newer Logitech ones, despite having had a history of hardware failure from that particular company. Then again, is it better to wait for the inevitable XboxOne version when that eventually comes around?

DanMan
06-08-2013, 10:35 PM
Then again, is it better to wait for the inevitable XboxOne version when that eventually comes around?

That's a long wait, and you never know if it's going to work with a PC, even though it's not completely unlikely.

LTK
07-08-2013, 06:17 PM
I don't know much about pads, but what are the odds that the new xbox pad is such a big improvement over the old one that you would want to pay its full price, rather than buy the inevitably discounted (or second-hand) xbox 360 pad?

alms
08-08-2013, 10:19 PM
I don't know much about pads, but what are the odds that the new xbox pad is such a big improvement over the old one that you would want to pay its full price, rather than buy the inevitably discounted (or second-hand) xbox 360 pad?

I don't either, but according to wikipedia:


The Xbox One controller maintains the overall layout found in the Xbox 360 design. The directional pad has been changed to a four-way design, and the battery compartment is slimmer. Menu and View buttons have replaced the Start and Back buttons. Each trigger will also feature independent rumble motors called "Impulse Triggers", which allows developers to program directional vibration.

Heliocentric
08-08-2013, 11:49 PM
I use the madkatz street fighter fight pad, excellent DPAD.

bp_968
25-08-2013, 11:42 AM
I'm thinking of getting a gamepad for PC, espescially to play co-op games and console ports that just play better that way. My main concern is compatibility and I'm not interested in any fancy feautures that just bump the price. I've been looking for some reviews etc. and it seems that the Xbox 360 controller is my best choice or are there any other suggestions?

I bought a xbox360 controller and love it. Some games it works wonderfully with (monaco is a good example). Others its terrible (any FPS at all, ever). But hey, thats why we have mice and keyboards. :)

trjp
29-08-2013, 12:48 AM
Since we're on the topic of the d-pad, last month I received a wired Xbox360 controller. Left and down click decently well, but up and right are mushy. Sometimes I'd miss notes in Sequence because of this lack of precise feedback.

Is this a typical issue of every 360 pad, or should I just have it replaced?

You can't really replace it because the only way to get spares is to buy a new (or broken) controller...

The 360 DPad is shit - partly due to it's location, mostly due to it being a single pivotting pad.

The Logitech F310 has a floating DPad with 4 switches and so works a lot better (but the analog sticks suck without muchos tuning)

If you want a really, really good DPad - the solution seems to be to use a PS2 or PS3 pad. PS2 Adaptors are cheap (make sure you get a W7 compatible one - mine shows as a device but sees no pads in W7) and for PS3 you can use the charge cable or sometimes Bluetooth (although that falls into the realm of Bluetooth weirdness which also makes using - say - a Wii Classic Controller such a PAIN IN THE ARSE) - both require some unsigned driver faffery tho.

Heliocentric
29-08-2013, 12:57 AM
You don't need to mod anything, install drivers, try and negotiate past limited controller support


I use the madkatz street fighter fight pad, excellent DPAD.

Its a one size fits all solution, and it feels like a genesis pad.

trjp
29-08-2013, 01:10 AM
I should add that using a Classic Controller II on a PC was a really nice experience - but they're not cheap and the wired adaptor you need to avoid the "hymns and incense" which is getting Bluetooth connections to work with Wii peripherals is 14!!

There's a part of me thinks it might be worthwhile - but realistically it's not, well, unless you have a thing for Dolphin perhaps...

alms
29-08-2013, 04:30 PM
You can't really replace it because the only way to get spares is to buy a new (or broken) controller...

When I wrote that post, I had just got the pad so replacement meant taking it back in and have it swapped for a new one, whole. That was hell of a necroreply, kudos.

trjp
29-08-2013, 06:07 PM
I was thinking more of the 'replacement' we do with things like SF Fightpads - where swapping the DPad rubbers is a common way to resurrect pads which have 'gone sloppy' (usually donated by pads with sticky ABXY buttons - the other fault they're common for and which is much harder to fix).

There are cheap Fightpads on Zavvi (UK Online Store and on eBay) atm - 13 is pretty good value for one of those - it's half the price of the Logitech pad, for example.

The X pads aren't quite as nice as the older IV pads but they're now pretty collectable with tired ones selling for twice that price on eBay (a new one in a box is probably worth 60-70 now).

Reiken
30-08-2013, 12:50 AM
I used to use my 360 one but it was wireless and I had to spend extra money on the wireless adapter. Theeen the battery on it died and I didn't feel like throwing more money at Microsoft. So I just plugged in the PS3 controller, installed that DS3 tool and went about my way with a much more reliable control.

trjp
30-08-2013, 02:44 PM
Erm - 360 controllers use AA batteries - you don't have to 'throw money at Microsoft' for those!? :)

Jesus_Phish
30-08-2013, 02:47 PM
Unless he bought it second hand, yes the wireless controller from MS comes with AA batteries. You buy the official MS rechargeable one with the recharge kit.

sabrage
01-09-2013, 07:05 AM
But the PS3 controller has an internal battery that doesn't suck ass, and he's not even using that.

trjp
01-09-2013, 01:58 PM
But the PS3 controller has an internal battery that doesn't suck ass, and he's not even using that.
The internal battery is the only thing people don't complain about with the PS3 controller really - the triggers are pretty dreadful and whilst I don't mind the sticks and DPad, they're not hugely popular alternatives.

Then there's the slight faff which is making it work - I had to reboot and go through the unsigned drivers nonsense to make one work - other people have managed to run into more issues than that - but some people seem to get it working with less effort (I think it comes down to which of the dodgy drivers you get - and they're all a bit dodgy?)

somini
06-09-2013, 03:37 AM
I recommend a Xbox controller(wired) or one of the logitech ones that use the same API. For older (non XInput games) that doesn't work, but those are just older games.

As for the PS3 controller, since MotionInJoy is a virus (InternetExplorer with ads to configure the driver), I google around and found this: http://betterds3.ciebiera.net/
Still need their drivers, but at least it doesn't phone home for fucking ADS on a IE window.

bonkers
09-09-2013, 07:53 AM
I'm in two minds about buying a pad right now. On the one hand, I'd quite like a 360 pad due to how compatible they seem to be, then again I've heard good things about the newer Logitech ones, despite having had a history of hardware failure from that particular company. Then again, is it better to wait for the inevitable XboxOne version when that eventually comes around?
Just because I had the chance to use it for a short while: if you are looking on buying a "nextgen" gamepad, don't rule out the PS4 gamepad. Even if you disliked the PS3 dualshock pad. The PS4 gamepad is a huuuuuge improvement. And it also works on PC from what it looks like.