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riadsala
03-07-2011, 08:34 PM
As if I didn't have enough to play at the moment, but I'm tempted anyway... I've played Oblivion on the 360, but I hear there's a large PC community for the game on the PC. So is it worth picking up for mods along? Or would I still be replaying more or less the same game?

An example would be something like Fall for Heaven 2 for CivIV... that would warrent buying the game on it's own.

Another example would be Baldur's Gate Triology mod (forget it's exact name). While I'm currenty playing BG, and loving it, it's still BG and I'm replaying hte game cause I want to replay the game. The (excellent) mods are just a plus :)

Cheers,
Riad

riadsala
03-07-2011, 08:35 PM
And no, I don't want any advice from Wizardary or whatever his name is.

Kelron
03-07-2011, 08:58 PM
There's a popular total conversion called Nehrim that offers a new world and quests. Still looks a hell of a lot like Oblivion from the screenshots, but I haven't played it so I want jump to conclusions about how much it changes. I don't know of any other completed total conversion projects, there's a huge amount of mods but they're largely designed to improve the original game rather than change it dramatically.

Of course, if you haven't done so already, you should definitely play Morrowind. It's one of my all time favourite games, and it doesn't even show its age too much with the various graphical mods available.

riadsala
03-07-2011, 09:01 PM
Never played Morrowind. Always tempted. Although I suppose I should finish BG first.

Wizardry
03-07-2011, 09:09 PM
And no, I don't want any advice from Wizardary or whatever his name is.
Ah. A guy wanting advice about Oblivion while not knowing the name of the most important CRPG series of all time.

Faldrath
03-07-2011, 10:09 PM
When I played Oblivion I mostly followed this guide, and it was a lot of fun:

http://www.reddit.com/r/oblivion/related/cdmzf/the_reddit_beginners_guide_to_modding_oblivion/

Anthile
03-07-2011, 10:22 PM
This is what you want: http://www.nehrim.de/indexEV.html

mlaskus
03-07-2011, 10:32 PM
I rally loved Ruined Tail's Tale (http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3027), it's a story driven companion mod. Very well written. I'm pretty sure Wulf would love to tell you more about it, definitely more in-depth and interestingly than I could.

TillEulenspiegel
03-07-2011, 10:34 PM
Nehrim is a separate game that's much harder without being especially more fun. Didn't like the survival horror beginning, didn't like the railroady quests that followed, really didn't like the painfully slow progression. Making fights so difficult isn't interesting, it just exposes the shallow crapitude of Oblivion's combat system.

Go for Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul if you want to play through a subtly improved version of the original game.

I'd strongly recommend vanilla Morrowind over any of it, though.

bogart
03-07-2011, 10:35 PM
I bought both Oblivion and Morrowind recently after already playing them to death on consoles. I'm Finished with morrowind (The mods managed to get an extra 100hours out of me, and I did everything on the console version) As for oblivion, I only recently started it as a thief but I definitely recommend it.

In case anyone is curious, I'm running :
Mart's Monster mod
Midas spells
Thief's Arsenal
Vaults of cyrodil

Kelron
03-07-2011, 10:38 PM
Go for Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul if you want to play through a subtly improved version of the original game.


Might have been true once, but last time I tried OOO (about 6 months ago) there was nothing subtle about it. Even the so-called Lite version was bloated with a load of crap I didn't want, like new weapons with shoddy models and silly stats. There's other mods that cover the good bits of OOO, although I'm not sure anyone else has bothered to compile them in one package.

Peter Radiator Full Pig
03-07-2011, 10:44 PM
Dont bother with Oblov. Good enough game. However, it doesnt hold a candle to Morrowind.

Get Morrowind, its dirt cheap, tons of mods, and its a much better game, even without the mods.
The only mod needed for Morrownid is to remove cliff racers. But there are many that will improve the game.
Get it and dont look back.

Wizardry
03-07-2011, 10:48 PM
Dont bother with Oblov. Good enough game. However, it doesnt hold a candle to Morrowind.

Get Morrowind, its dirt cheap, tons of mods, and its a much better game, even without the mods.
The only mod needed for Morrownid is to remove cliff racers. But there are many that will improve the game.
Get it and dont look back.
Don't bother with Morrowind. Good enough game. However, it doesn't hold a candle to Daggerfall.

Get Daggerfall, it's free and it's a much better game. Get it and don't look back.

Icarus
03-07-2011, 11:20 PM
Yes, Wizardry, we get it, there haven't been any good CRPGs made since 1934. The OP is asking about Oblivion.

Basilicus
03-07-2011, 11:21 PM
There are so many mods for Oblivion that you can essentially recraft the experience however you see fit.

Does there need to be a workable stealth system and improved combat? Done.

Do you want greatly enhanced textures that make the game appear several years more modern than it was? Done.

Do you want to add questlines and guilds while populating the world with more NPCs, travelers on the road, and underwater sealife? Done.

Do you want to dot an improved, handcrafted landscape with ownable shacks, houses, and castles? Done.

Do you think all the women should wear anime clothing, be scantily clad or strut around naked? Done, done, done, done, done, done and done. Also in progress.

I greatly enjoy the mods I've installed on Oblivion. Also, the GOTY edition gives you the Shivering Isles expansion, which is well worth the price of admission (though you'll need to level up to it for it to be fun). As long as you can get over the movement, visual style, and too-basic level design in Oblivion, everything else can be adjusted however you see fit.

Wizardry
04-07-2011, 12:07 AM
Yes, Wizardry, we get it, there haven't been any good CRPGs made since 1934. The OP is asking about Oblivion.
Yep. Awesome. Now tell off the people who talked about Morrowind. Thanks.

soldant
04-07-2011, 12:51 AM
Don't bother with Morrowind. Good enough game. However, it doesn't hold a candle to Daggerfall.
Get Daggerfall, it's free and it's a much better game. Get it and don't look back.
Don't bother with Daggerfall. Good enough game. However, it doesn't hold a candle to pedit5.
Get pedit5, it's obscure and a much better game. Get it and don't look back.

Or to be serious: Oblivion with mods is good but I'll echo what someone said about OOO. It's just ridiculous the amount of junk that got crammed in with that thing, there's an absurd amount of stuff which you probably won't want. Also Morrowind with its expansions is also well worth picking up, if only because the environments are a bit more interesting. Also because everything was spelled out with text and no voice acting, lots of mods are actually better and more involved in Morrowind than on Oblivion.

riadsala
04-07-2011, 09:24 AM
Sounds like I want Morrowind then. But I'll try and buy neither for the time being, cause I should really finish Baldur's Gate first. But I'll probably cave in what with the silly steam sales.

Jaxtrasi
04-07-2011, 09:47 AM
I'd say no.

It depends on whether you enjoy Oblivion in the first place. Mod it as much as you like and it'll still be the same game, which is a little different to the way FFH totally transforms Civ IV.

If you like the fundamental nuts and bolts of the game, but little things annoy you (in my case it was an uninteresting avatar and an awful levelling system) then you'll be able to tweak it to your needs.

If you've already finished the game on the 360 though, I'd say there's no point starting it again on the PC just to experience higher res textures, better weather, anime swords, or whatever else.

Harlander
04-07-2011, 09:52 AM
Ah. A guy wanting advice about Oblivion while not knowing the name of the most important CRPG series of all time.

What, he doesn't know about Realms of Arkania?

Vexing Vision
04-07-2011, 10:42 AM
Just for the record, if anyone makes an Eldar Scrolls game, I will buy this.

Screw these Space Marines, let me play a Harlequin, damnit!

riadsala
04-07-2011, 11:22 AM
Just for the record, if anyone makes an Eldar Scrolls game, I will buy this.

Screw these Space Marines, let me play a Harlequin, damnit!


:) Now that would be pretty neat.

Very neat actually. Such a shame that it'll never get made and we'll be stuck with lowest common demoniator space marinetastic games for the forseeable future.

Wolfenswan
04-07-2011, 12:52 PM
If you want to bloat your Oblivion to an obscene mess combing three of the biggest Overhauls together i can recommend FCOM. (http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/convergence.html)

And now a list with lists!


A Diary (http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/loved/entry/the_oblivion_diaries/) from some guy that never got finished but explains some Mods very well and gives an idea of what's important when modding Oblivion.
Complete Guide to a modified Oblivion (http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/) - Essential if you don't want to have your game crashing.
One of the few big lists that are still being updated (http://elderscrollsmods.wikidot.com/).
Environment Mod List (http://forums.bethsoft.com/?showtopic=960829&hl)
Magic Overhaul Mod List (http://forums.bethsoft.com/?showtopic=814477) (From fixing the vanilla system to overhaul)

hamster
04-07-2011, 01:47 PM
Not too sure about FCOM. Alot of the stuff is contrary to the game lore. I mean really the lore is as generic as it gets in Oblivion in many respects, and the setting (Cyrodil) supposedly contradicts with descriptions from texts in earlier games BUT one of the components of FCOM adds "fallen ones" to the game. Yupe, i'm talking about those little RACKETEETOOS from Diablo I and Diablo II, except there's no pesky Shaman reviving them (instead the Shaman conjures headless zombies and zaps you with electricity). Anyway point is, it's rather jarring in that respect.

Wolfenswan
04-07-2011, 02:02 PM
I more or less wanted to mention it for the sake of completeness and because it's an impressive piece of work. "Recommending" was kinda tongue in cheek.

Personally i found the massive amount of added stuff to be more annoying than interesting, not to mention how taxing it can be for your system.

deano2099
04-07-2011, 03:13 PM
If you want to bloat your Oblivion to an obscene mess combing three of the biggest Overhauls together i can recommend FCOM. (http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/convergence.html)

And now a list with lists!


A Diary (http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/loved/entry/the_oblivion_diaries/) from some guy that never got finished but explains some Mods very well and gives an idea of what's important when modding Oblivion.



Lazy twat needs to get his arse in gear and start playing it again and not get distracted by Final Fantasy XIII and Dragon Age 2 really...

Tikey
04-07-2011, 03:55 PM
Ah. A guy wanting advice about Oblivion while not knowing the name of the most important CRPG series of all time. What, he doesn't know about Realms of Arkania?

He's obviously talking about Mass Effect

Flint
04-07-2011, 06:16 PM
Obligatory Morrowind/mods link:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8